Butthurt guy whines about Canada's warship names

[Razgovory]

p.s. We burnt down your White House. 

But you still lost the war, and had to remain a British colony till the 1980's.

Isn't that a victory?  Being a part of the Empire sure seems a lot better than being a part of the United States.

Well, now you have neither.

[Neil]

p.s. We burnt down your White House. 

But you still lost the war, and had to remain a British colony till the 1980's.

Isn't that a victory?  Being a part of the Empire sure seems a lot better than being a part of the United States.

Well, now you have neither.

The Empire never dies.  The bonds of affection and brotherhood still bind us.

[Viking]

p.s. We burnt down your White House. 

But you still lost the war, and had to remain a British colony till the 1980's.

Isn't that a victory?  Being a part of the Empire sure seems a lot better than being a part of the United States.

Well, now you have neither.

The Empire never dies.  The bonds of affection and brotherhood still bind us.

Do androids dream of Dreadnoughts, Horselover?

[Razgovory]

p.s. We burnt down your White House. 

But you still lost the war, and had to remain a British colony till the 1980's.

Isn't that a victory?  Being a part of the Empire sure seems a lot better than being a part of the United States.

Well, now you have neither.

The Empire never dies.  The bonds of affection and brotherhood still bind us.

That's nice.  You and your bros Sudan and Pakistan should hang out more.

[PRC]

p.s. We burnt down your White House. 

But you still lost the war, and had to remain a British colony till the 1980's.

Isn't that a victory?  Being a part of the Empire sure seems a lot better than being a part of the United States.

Well, now you have neither.

The Empire never dies.  The bonds of affection and brotherhood still bind us.

That's nice.  You and your bros Sudan and Pakistan should hang out more.

I thought they were already kicked out of the club?

[Jacob]

That's nice.  You and your bros Sudan and Pakistan should hang out more.

You just jelly you don't even have any bros.

[Berkut]

I don't think any Americans care, but it seems kind of desperate for the Canucks. After all, it wasn't a Canadian victory, and it was pretty petty, in the scheme of things. Naming Candian warships after battles that happened before the nation even existed?

Why not commemorate some of the WW1 or WW2 victories they were key players in?

[Barrister]

I don't think any Americans care, but it seems kind of desperate for the Canucks. After all, it wasn't a Canadian victory, and it was pretty petty, in the scheme of things. Naming Candian warships after battles that happened before the nation even existed?

Why not commemorate some of the WW1 or WW2 victories they were key players in?

Because we didn't just have the 200 year anniversary of WWI or WWII?

You actually should not underestimate the historical importance of 1812 (even though it isn't well known).  It was incredibaly important in forming the idea of a separate Canadian nation.  After all in 1811 you basically just had a bunch of French-speaking people with few ties to the Crown, and a whole bunch of ex-American loyalists.  There was nothing resembling a shared Canadian identity.

The notion that the US had simply to march wasn't all that foolish a one.

[viper37]

p.s. We burnt down your White House. 

But you still lost the war, and had to remain a British colony till the 1980's.

See Neil's answer.  To the English Canadians, that is a victory in itself.

[Razgovory]

I don't think any Americans care, but it seems kind of desperate for the Canucks. After all, it wasn't a Canadian victory, and it was pretty petty, in the scheme of things. Naming Candian warships after battles that happened before the nation even existed?

Why not commemorate some of the WW1 or WW2 victories they were key players in?

Because we didn't just have the 200 year anniversary of WWI or WWII?

You actually should not underestimate the historical importance of 1812 (even though it isn't well known).  It was incredibaly important in forming the idea of a separate Canadian nation.  After all in 1811 you basically just had a bunch of French-speaking people with few ties to the Crown, and a whole bunch of ex-American loyalists.  There was nothing resembling a shared Canadian identity.

The notion that the US had simply to march wasn't all that foolish a one.

Is there one yet?

[Berkut]

I don't think any Americans care, but it seems kind of desperate for the Canucks. After all, it wasn't a Canadian victory, and it was pretty petty, in the scheme of things. Naming Candian warships after battles that happened before the nation even existed?

Why not commemorate some of the WW1 or WW2 victories they were key players in?

Because we didn't just have the 200 year anniversary of WWI or WWII?

Pfft. There is always some anniversary of something.

You actually should not underestimate the historical importance of 1812 (even though it isn't well known).  It was incredibaly important in forming the idea of a separate Canadian nation.  After all in 1811 you basically just had a bunch of French-speaking people with few ties to the Crown, and a whole bunch of ex-American loyalists.  There was nothing resembling a shared Canadian identity.

The notion that the US had simply to march wasn't all that foolish a one.

OK, if you say so.

I still think that it looks more like insecurity than anything else. Pick the trivial and irrelevant battle that you won against the 800ln gorilla to the south rather than more relevant and significant battles.

[Maladict]

Perhaps the only nations that can't name their ships after famous victories are the former Axis powers. Germany would find it impolitic to name a ship the Denmark Strait or the Admiral Dönitz.

They already did in the 60s. Lütjens, Molders, Rommel...

[MadImmortalMan]

p.s. We burnt down your White House. 

Would you consider a subscription rate? Say, burn it down quarterly at a flat fixed amount. CDN naturally. Maybe you could take it in trade for some oil pipelines or something?

[OttoVonBismarck]

In Canada I've noticed a false historical view that the War of 1812 was a "war of independence" of some sorts for them. Despite the fact that Madison and others who planned the American war effort never viewed Canada as a target of conquest. Canada was never in any danger of being conquered and annexed by the United States as that was never the American intention in the war.

[Neil]

I still think that it looks more like insecurity than anything else. Pick the trivial and irrelevant battle that you won against the 800ln gorilla to the south rather than more relevant and significant battles.

Irrelevant?  It was a war of national survival.  It's about as relevant as you can get.  When the Americans named their battlecruiser/carriers Lexington and Saratoga, it wasn't out of insecurity but rather pride.  And it's not like Canada has a ton of battles to choose from.  We've only ever fought four wars, and one of them is politically untouchable due to the large, unassimilated population of backwards malcontents that remains in one of our provinces.  If we built an HMCS Plaines d'Abraham, viper and his ilk would lose their shit.  Now that's insecurity.  In a way, the US is better off.  Any Southerners who bitch about a USS Gettysburg would be written off as cranks, whereas viper is treated somewhat seriously by people.

Besides, when your standard guided-missile frigate class bears the name of a guy who was a hero of the War of 1812, you have exactly zero room to complain.