Idea #435682 of SF Gov to make SF a horrible place

[The Brain]

A buddy from northern Sweden told me about the first time he parked in a parking house in central Stockholm. He expected to pay some some tens of SEK for 4-5 hours. LOL

hilarious.   

Is this a Yukon thing?

[DGuller]

The idea that parking fees shouldn't follow supply and demand is odd.

Unfortunately, the idea of parking fees being heavily subsided is ingrained into the minds of many.

[Eddie Teach]

A buddy from northern Sweden told me about the first time he parked in a parking house in central Stockholm. He expected to pay some some tens of SEK for 4-5 hours. LOL

hilarious.   

Is this a Yukon thing?

Not knowing the value of a SEK is an everywhere thing.

[The Brain]

A buddy from northern Sweden told me about the first time he parked in a parking house in central Stockholm. He expected to pay some some tens of SEK for 4-5 hours. LOL

hilarious.   

Is this a Yukon thing?

Not knowing the value of a SEK is an everywhere thing.

ROTW = fail

[garbon]

Unfortunately, the idea of parking fees being heavily subsided is ingrained into the minds of many.

Parking garages don't change their prices on a daily or weekly basis.

[DGuller]

Parking garages don't change their prices on a daily or weekly basis.

And it's a shame, thought at least on average they're charging the market rate, which is much better than what parking meters manage.  The whole point of congestion pricing scheme is to be very sensitive to demand.

[Ed Anger]

Pave the parks over.

[DGuller]

Not knowing the value of a SEK is an everywhere thing.

Not knowing that Google can convert obscure units into something coherent is, hmm, can't think of anything clever.  But, the point is, Google can convert that shit.

[garbon]

The whole point of congestion pricing scheme is to be very sensitive to demand.

Which is why I hate it as it is really just another part of SF's overall directive to get people not to use cars in the city and to create a bicycle haven.

[garbon]

Pave the parks over.

There's already plenty of parking in Golden Gate Park. Making it all a parking lot probably wouldn't help anything (low demand).

[DGuller]

The whole point of congestion pricing scheme is to be very sensitive to demand.

Which is why I hate it as it is really just another part of SF's overall directive to get people not to use cars in the city and to create a bicycle haven.

The problem is that cities just can't handle a lot of cars, that's probably the #1 inherent quality of life issue with them.  Personally, I'd rather have congestion pricing regulate car usage rather than congestion itself.  I'd rather be dissauded by a $20 toll rather than by a 5 MPH average commute speed.

[Sheilbh]

Sounds like a good idea.

I agree.

[garbon]

I'd rather be dissauded by a $20 toll rather than by a 5 MPH average commute speed.

That's not really happening in SF...and like I was suggesting, I think this move would just push people to park in parking garages.  If I end up paying $12 bucks to park on the street, I might as well pay the $15 all day rate to park in a garage.  I'm not sure that, that is a positive (or a negative really).

[Eddie Teach]

Not knowing that Google can convert obscure units into something coherent is, hmm, can't think of anything clever.  But, the point is, Google can convert that shit.

Not worth the effort. Besides, I think I got the gist of the joke.