Nelson Mandela RIP

[Razgovory]

Yes, and they called him a terrorist primarily because of his ideology.  http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19900207&id=J3tPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vlEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5176,4007216  Here's a Op-Ed written by Buckley back in 1990 where he decries the idea of Majority rule.  He makes the bad joke of showing concern over minority rights in a country where the majority of it's citizens lacked political rights.

[derspiess]

Raz has some of the weirdest hangups sometimes. It's like he's not happy unless we're badmouthing Mandela.

[Razgovory]

Raz has some of the weirdest hangups sometimes. It's like he's not happy unless we're badmouthing Mandela.

I disliking the rewriting of history.

[11B4V]

Raz has some of the weirdest hangups sometimes. It's like he's not happy unless we're badmouthing Mandela.

It would appear we broke him.

[dps]

Yes, and they called him a terrorist primarily because of his ideology.  http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19900207&id=J3tPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vlEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5176,4007216  Here's a Op-Ed written by Buckley back in 1990 where he decries the idea of Majority rule.  He makes the bad joke of showing concern over minority rights in a country where the majority of it's citizens lacked political rights.

I disliking the rewriting of history.

First, Mandela was called a terrorist primarily because the ANC had sometimes used terrorist tactics.   

Second, I still don't see the rewriting of history here.  I mentioned that the fears of most conservatives (and even some liberals) had as to how Mandela would govern once South Africa got majority rule.  We were wrong about that, and we respect and salute Mandela for proving us wrong.  Saying that we never had those fears or doubts about him would be rewriting history, but I don't see anyone on Languish doing that.

[crazy canuck]

As someone pointed out earlier, terrorism is a tactic, not an ideology.  And yeah, lots of people thought that if the ANC took power, Mandela would become a 2-bit dictator like Mugabe or Amin (though not crazy like Amin).  And frankly, you were a fool if you didn't at least acknowledge that it was a possibility that he would rule as a dictator.  He proved his doubters wrong--he proved to be a better man than he could have been.  And now people, including many of those same doubters, are praising him for that.

I don't see that as re-writing history.

I think you have identified the issue exactly.  We do not praise Mandela today because what he did was expected.  He is universally praised (and I would say loved) because what he did was so exceptional and unexpected.

[Liep]

Mrs. Obama doesn't look happy with our PM. It's breaking news here that she got to sit next to Obama.

[Sheilbh]

I disliking the rewriting of history.

Who's rewriting it?

Apartheid had lots of useful idiots in the West. We know this. But it's not a political point now.

[Sheilbh]

This memorial's amazing. The crowd do not like Zuma

[Grey Fox]

I fully expect Fidel Castro to get some love around here as well when he passes away, PDH.

What's your beef with Castro?! He ask for your help, you turn him down & then you get angry when he turns to the only other option.

Cry me a river.

[Syt]

There's criticism in Austria that instead of the head of state they sent someone a few notches down (the head of the states' federal chamber). The president, in the meantime, is going to Germany instead, where he will hold a speech at a memorial for Willy Brandt's 100th birthday.

[CountDeMoney]

I fully expect Fidel Castro to get some love around here as well when he passes away, PDH.

What's your beef with Castro?! He ask for your help, you turn him down & then you get angry when he turns to the only other option.

Cry me a river.

Are you talking to me?

[Grey Fox]

I fully expect Fidel Castro to get some love around here as well when he passes away, PDH.

What's your beef with Castro?! He ask for your help, you turn him down & then you get angry when he turns to the only other option.

Cry me a river.

Are you talking to me?

Yes, you, as America.

[grumbler]

What's your beef with Castro?! He ask for your help, you turn him down & then you get angry when he turns to the only other option.

Cry me a river.

IS this pseudo-history of your own making, or something you learned in school, or what?

If this kind of over-simplification and obfuscation of a complex truth is what passes for "history" in Quebec, that actually explains a lot.

[Liep]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/obama-selfie_n_4419349.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003