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A Modest Proposal from the WaPo

Started by citizen k, November 29, 2013, 04:12:17 PM

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Sheilbh

Quote from: derspiess on November 30, 2013, 01:42:29 PM
Shocking that the LanguishLeft would be against presidential term limits around this time.
As Obama's more unpopular than ever before? :mellow:

I've never been a fan. The people always get it right, more or less.
Let's bomb Russia!

DGuller

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 01, 2013, 02:08:16 PM
I've never been a fan. The people always get it right, more or less.
Usually a bit more less than more, though.

Agelastus

Quote from: derspiess on November 30, 2013, 01:42:29 PM
Shocking that the LanguishLeft would be against presidential term limits around this time.

I've always thought that term limits are both unnecessary and insulting to the electorate as well; have I suddenly moved to the LanguishLeft as well... :ph34r:
"Come grow old with me
The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

celedhring

I sort of agree with term limits in certain systems, particularly the American: if you can't be reelected you can't prioritize your reelection when enacting policy.

Razgovory

Quote from: Agelastus on December 01, 2013, 02:26:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 30, 2013, 01:42:29 PM
Shocking that the LanguishLeft would be against presidential term limits around this time.

I've always thought that term limits are both unnecessary and insulting to the electorate as well; have I suddenly moved to the LanguishLeft as well... :ph34r:

Yes.  Derspiess has moved right and anyone left back is well... left.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

The People elected Carter over Ford.  Fuck them.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Ideologue

Actually, I like term limits just fine; in fact I am happy with two terms.

But they should each be ten years long.
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Agelastus

Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
The People elected Carter over Ford.  Fuck them.

To be fair to the people, they were given a terrible choice that year.
"Come grow old with me
The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

DGuller

Quote from: Agelastus on December 01, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
The People elected Carter over Ford.  Fuck them.

To be fair to the people, they were given a terrible choice that year.
And they voted for him.  :(

grumbler

Quote from: DGuller on December 01, 2013, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on December 01, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
The People elected Carter over Ford.  Fuck them.

To be fair to the people, they were given a terrible choice that year.
And they voted for him.  :(
:lol:
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Neil

The idea that checks and balances are 'insulting to the electorate' is inherently foolish.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

OttoVonBismarck

I find those before/after Presidential pics to be the worst kind of nonsense. For one, they most likely carefully select the picture that looks the "youngest" for the beginning of their term--which is subjective and will certainly be based on the lighting, angle, even how good the make up job they have on was. Then of course they look for the most hagard/old looking picture for the end of their term.

Most Presidents we've had in the 20th century start out either in their 40s or their early/mid 50s and obviously end their terms 4/8 years later. Ask anyone who has aged from their 40s to their 50s or early 60s (aside from grumbler who went through this so long ago that he's long since forgotten) what happens and how uncommon it is to see gray hair and wrinkles. Graying in particular is something a lot of people go through relatively rapidly, and it's one of those things where once a critical mass of gray hair is present it can start to seem like the person has gone from being young to old overnight, but in reality they've probably been graying at a perfectly average speed for a man.

KRonn

Two terms is plenty for a President, IMO. Even if it's a President that I really like I still say two terms, eight years is long enough. I think it's politically healthy to have new ideas and a new administration rather than dragging on with a President that becomes stagnant, and could also become too powerful. I also feel that term limits for Congress could be considered. Incumbents become too powerful, hard to unseat, plus too connected to business and other interests, and then they're doing policy for their interests more than for the country. 

Razgovory

Quote from: KRonn on December 01, 2013, 08:31:13 PM
Two terms is plenty for a President, IMO. Even if it's a President that I really like I still say two terms, eight years is long enough. I think it's politically healthy to have new ideas and a new administration rather than dragging on with a President that becomes stagnant, and could also become too powerful. I also feel that term limits for Congress could be considered. Incumbents become too powerful, hard to unseat, plus too connected to business and other interests, and then they're doing policy for their interests more than for the country.

Well sure, I think it's prudent to limit the presidential candidates you can vote for, but not for the public at large.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

KRonn

Quote from: Razgovory on December 01, 2013, 09:04:32 PM
Quote from: KRonn on December 01, 2013, 08:31:13 PM
Two terms is plenty for a President, IMO. Even if it's a President that I really like I still say two terms, eight years is long enough. I think it's politically healthy to have new ideas and a new administration rather than dragging on with a President that becomes stagnant, and could also become too powerful. I also feel that term limits for Congress could be considered. Incumbents become too powerful, hard to unseat, plus too connected to business and other interests, and then they're doing policy for their interests more than for the country.

Well sure, I think it's prudent to limit the presidential candidates you can vote for, but not for the public at large.

;)