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Started by 11B4V, November 22, 2013, 02:42:47 AM

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Attacks Around US Probed for Link to Knockout Game

In New York, a 78-year-old woman strolling in her neighborhood was punched in the head by a stranger and tumbled to the ground. In Washington, a 32-year-old woman was swarmed by teenagers on bikes, and one clocked her in the face. In Jersey City, a 46-year-old man died after someone sucker-punched him and he struck his head on an iron fence.

In each case, police are investigating whether the attacks are part of a violent game called "knockout," where the object is to target unsuspecting pedestrians with the intention of knocking them out cold with one punch. Authorities and psychologists say the concept has been around for decades — or longer — and it's played mostly by impulsive teenage boys looking to impress their friends.

"It's hard to excuse this behavior, there's no purpose to this," said Jeffrey Butts, a psychologist specializing in juvenile delinquency at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "When someone runs into a store and demands money, you can sort of understand why they're doing it, desperation, whatever. But just hitting someone for the sheer thrill of seeing if you can knock someone out is just childish."

At least two deaths have been linked to the game this year and police have seen a recent spike in similar attacks.

New York City police have deployed additional officers to city neighborhoods where at least seven attacks occurred in the past few weeks, including the assault on the 78-year-old woman. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said some are smacked, some are more seriously assaulted, and some harassed. The department's hate crimes task force is investigating, because some attacks have been against Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn.

In Washington, D.C., police were investigating two assaults in the past week, both of which resulted in minor injuries but not unconsciousness.

One victim, Phoebe Connolly, of Brattleboro, Vt., said she was randomly punched in the face by a teenager while riding her bike during a work-related visit to Washington last Friday. Connolly, who is 32 and works with teenagers in her job, said the blow knocked her head to the side and bloodied her nose.

"I don't know what the goal was," she said. "There wasn't any attempt to take anything from me."

While some of those attacked have been white, and some suspected attackers black, experts said the incidents are more about preying on the seemingly helpless than race or religion.

"It's about someone who is seemingly helpless, and choosing that person to target," Butts said.

A recent media blitz about the game circulating on television stations and online isn't helping, Connolly and experts said, especially because images are being repeatedly broadcast of victims in a dead fall, smacking the ground with a limp thud. The viral footage comes from older incidents: In one instance from 2012, 50-year-old Pittsburgh English teacher James Addlespurger was punched in the face and falls to the curb. The image was caught on surveillance cameras, and a 15-year-old was arrested.

"The behavior of the sudden assault of someone who seems helpless has appealed to the idiotic impulsive quality of adolescence forever," said Butts. "But there are now bragging rights beyond your immediate circle, when this is on television and online."

Paul Boxer, a psychology professor at Rutgers University who studies aggressive behavior, said Thursday the media stories may perpetuate the assaults, but most teens clearly aren't unfeeling sociopaths.

"You've got some impressionable kids, already with a propensity for violence who could be affected by this," he said. "But not because they are hoping to hurt somebody, it's more about risk taking, and new, different and exciting ways of getting into trouble."

In Lower Merion, a leafy suburb near Philadelphia, two attacks may be related to the game.

"We do worry that it's something like that ... because we've had two similar assaults, neither one of which resulted in a robbery," said Lt. Frank Higgins of the Lower Merion Township Police Department.

In one, two 19-year-olds were charged with knocking down a 63-year-old man out walking his dog the evening of Oct. 29. They were arrested nearby a short time later, and have been charged with assault, Higgins said. No arrests were made in the other incident from September.

Also in September in Jersey City, N.J., two 13-year-olds and a 14-year-old were charged as juveniles in the murder of 46-year-old Ralph Eric Santiago. He was found Sept. 10 with his neck broken and his head wedged between iron fence posts. Hudson County Prosecutor's Office spokesman Gene Rubino has said prosecutors believe the teens were playing the game.

In late May in Syracuse, a group of teenagers attempting to knock Michael Daniels out with a single punch wound up beating and stomping him to death, according to police. A 16-year-old was found guilty of manslaughter, and his 13-year-old co-defendant pleaded guilty to assault, admitting he started the fatal beating by trying to knock out Daniels with a single punch. Both were sentenced to 18 months behind bars.

And earlier in May, Elex Murphy, now 20, was sentenced to life in prison plus 25 years in St. Louis for killing a Vietnamese immigrant as part the game in 2011.

Juvenile delinquency experts say a good punishment for these teens would be empathy training, such as volunteering at a homeless shelter. But a New York lawmaker proposed a bill this week that would make stricter sentences not only for those who do the punching, but for those who publish images online and watch the attacks.

"These twisted and cowardly thugs are preying on innocent bystanders and they don't care if the victims are young, old, a man or woman," GOP state Assemblyman Jim Tedisco said. "Life isn't a video game. These are real people whose lives are not only being put in jeopardy but in many cases destroyed."
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Quote from: grumbler on November 22, 2013, 07:20:01 AM
Anyone else finding it increasingly difficult to tell the difference between an opening post by Eleven Before and one by Timmay?  :unsure:

Tim's been beaten into putting a line of commentary in every thread he starts, whether he has something to say or not.  :P
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Quote from: 11B4V on November 22, 2013, 02:42:47 AM
"These twisted and cowardly thugs are preying on innocent bystanders and they don't care if the victims are young, old, a man or woman," GOP state Assemblyman Jim Tedisco said. "Life isn't a video game. These are real people whose lives are not only being put in jeopardy but in many cases destroyed."
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PDH

I am glad that strong statistical analysis went into this story, showing the massive rise in "knockouts" around the country and not some random collection of assaults collected over months by someone likely scanning google news.
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Quote from: Caliga on November 22, 2013, 07:58:13 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 22, 2013, 02:42:47 AM
"These twisted and cowardly thugs are preying on innocent bystanders and they don't care if the victims are young, old, a man or woman," GOP state Assemblyman Jim Tedisco said. "Life isn't a video game. These are real people whose lives are not only being put in jeopardy but in many cases destroyed."
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Eddie Teach

Doesn't seem like those two would be in the same weight class.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: PDH on November 22, 2013, 08:27:54 AM
I am glad that strong statistical analysis went into this story, showing the massive rise in "knockouts" around the country and not some random collection of assaults collected over months by someone likely scanning google news.

Or the fact that it's about as old a hobby as the internet itself.  Kids have been walking up to strangers and tourists and knocking them out for years in Mobtown.

Had some great footage of a well-regarded and highly recruited foreign geneticist get her lights knocked the fuck out by a little shit in the middle of the day at you-know-where.  She was out before she hit the ground.
She promptly transferred to the University of Bonn once they finished reconstructing her jaw. 

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11B4V

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 22, 2013, 07:23:13 AM
Quote from: grumbler on November 22, 2013, 07:20:01 AM
Anyone else finding it increasingly difficult to tell the difference between an opening post by Eleven Before and one by Timmay?  :unsure:

Tim's been beaten into putting a line of commentary in every thread he starts, whether he has something to say or not.  :P

At least someone is smart enough to notice a difference.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 22, 2013, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: PDH on November 22, 2013, 08:27:54 AM
I am glad that strong statistical analysis went into this story, showing the massive rise in "knockouts" around the country and not some random collection of assaults collected over months by someone likely scanning google news.

Or the fact that it's about as old a hobby as the internet itself.  Kids have been walking up to strangers and tourists and knocking them out for years in Mobtown.



Maybe, but it appears to have national news attention at the moment.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

KRonn

This is nasty, despicable. Sucker punching, often from behind, old people and women. Some victims are being badly hurt and killed, as the article points out. I didn't see it in the article but I think it was in the news that one victim pulled a gun and shot at his attacker.

CountDeMoney

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Quote from: 11B4V on November 22, 2013, 11:09:14 AM
Maybe, but it appears to have national news attention at the moment.

Thanks to the internet, I can make my cat's bowel movements national news.  If I were so inclined.  And I just might be.

KRonn,  you're talking about this one--

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/11/21/knockout-game-michigan-tasing-and-shooting-take-it-to-a-new-level/

And they didn't try to punch him, they were using a Taser. 

QuoteHe pulled out his legally obtained .40 caliber pistol and shot Marvell Weaver in the buttocks.

About 2 feet too low, pal.  Adjust your sights.

derspiess

Lol... in the buttocks.

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I can see LBJ saying that.  :lol:
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