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Why does Shakespeare love Italians?

Started by Queequeg, November 19, 2013, 04:57:45 PM

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November 19, 2013, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 19, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
I thought it was three things:
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3. The English, and probably Shakespeare himself, knew jack and shit about Italy and thus could pretty much write whatever he wanted without somebody claiming no Milanese family was ever named Capulet.
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Is this the case, by that time Italy had become rather popular and the habit of the upper classes to make culture visits to the peninsular was establishing itself.
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November 19, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
The Italian city states may have made a good stand in England and London in particular.  They are mercantile and maritime and they weren't in direct competition to English power.  Writing about a Northern European power could be dangerous, you never knew how politics was going to turn.  Italy was fairly safe.
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Josquius

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November 19, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Contemporary Englishmen viewed Italy much the same way anime obsessed wapanese losers view Japan today.
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#18
November 19, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 19, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Contemporary Englishmen viewed Italy much the same way anime obsessed wapanese losers view Japan today.

ROR.

garbon

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November 19, 2013, 10:02:06 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 19, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Contemporary Englishmen viewed Italy much the same way anime obsessed wapanese losers view Japan today.

That seems unlikely.
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#20
November 19, 2013, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 19, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Contemporary Englishmen viewed Italy much the same way anime obsessed wapanese losers view Japan today.
Shakespeare was not a loser.
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