Would you recommend your college major?

[CountDeMoney]

He was smart enough to decide on a PR career after he did an internship.  And I'll be damned if that didn't turn out to be the perfect role for him.

I seriously tried to bounce into that.  I had so much fun doing it; alas, I don't have the 3-5 years experience or requisite academic pedigree.  Doesn't even matter that I was quoted on SportsCenter.

[Barrister]

He was smart enough to decide on a PR career after he did an internship.  And I'll be damned if that didn't turn out to be the perfect role for him.

I seriously tried to bounce into that.  I had so much fun doing it; alas, I don't have the 3-5 years experience or requisite academic pedigree.  Doesn't even matter that I was quoted on SportsCenter.

You're going to need to give us the story for that one...

[CountDeMoney]

We arrested a certain Baltimore Orioles pitcher for DWI.  I played the role of "Agency Spokesperson", mainly because I was the one that answered the phone at 4 am.   

Mom has the videotape somewhere...

[mongers]

Those all look like bloody good starting salaries to me.

Welcome to Cameron's/Osbourne's/*Clegg's England.   



*useful tool.

[Valmy]

Those all look like bloody good starting salaries to me.

They certainly do...which is why I suspect they are complete nonsense.  In this day and age if we average the starting salary for every Freshly minted History grad we get $39,000?  That is impossible.

[garbon]

Those all look like bloody good starting salaries to me.

They certainly do...which is why I suspect they are complete nonsense.  In this day and age if we average the starting salary for every Freshly minted History grad we get $39,000?  That is impossible.

I don't know - what that article had seems to match with the survey conducted by NACE. Here's what they list for 2013 as averages.

Engineering            $63,000
Computer Science   $60,000
Business                $54,000
Communications      $43,000
Math & Sciences     $42,700
Education              $40,000
Humanities & Social Sciences    $37,000

http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/04/15/college-degrees-with-the-highest-starting-salaries-3/

quote on how they are how they compile

A Bethlehem, Pa. non-profit, NACE links college placement offices with employers. Its employer members tend to be large companies. For its salary survey it went beyond its members and combed through data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Census Bureau and a master set of data developed by a compensation measurement company called Job Search Intelligence.

[Valmy]

I don't know - what that article had seems to match with the survey conducted by NACE. Here's what they list for 2013 as averages.

Right.  It is clear that these are the average starting salaries of people who graduate with salaried positions.  So the idea that the average History Grad is going to get a salaried position of $39,000 is ridiculous.  That is the average of whatever percentage of fortunate souls in those disciplines are getting top jobs. 

If these numbers were accurate there would be no student debt crisis at all, everybody would just get a Bachelor's degree and get a nice job.  But instead we are looking at about a trillion dollars.  So...yeah.

[garbon]

I don't know - what that article had seems to match with the survey conducted by NACE. Here's what they list for 2013 as averages.

Right.  It is clear that these are the average starting salaries of people who graduate with salaried positions.  So the idea that the average History Grad is going to get a salaried position of $39,000 is ridiculous.  That is the average of whatever percentage of fortunate souls in those disciplines are getting top jobs. 

If these numbers were accurate there would be no student debt crisis at all, everybody would just get a Bachelor's degree and get a nice job.  But instead we are looking at about a trillion dollars.  So...yeah.

So you are upset that statistics that aren't aimed at taking into account the unemployed...don't take into account the unemployed?

[Ideologue]

It's pretty Goddamned misleading.

I think he also said "salaried position," although I imagine those surveys do take into account the waged.  Mine did.  I bombed USC's with a minimum wage turd.

[jimmy olsen]

I considered studying history, but I realized in high school that history isn't being done seriously in the academic world. We have the historians we have and not the historians we wish we had. They are clueless about their subject. So history, for me, was out.

What exactly do you mean by this?

[The Brain]

I considered studying history, but I realized in high school that history isn't being done seriously in the academic world. We have the historians we have and not the historians we wish we had. They are clueless about their subject. So history, for me, was out.

What exactly do you mean by this?

In academia history is an incredibly immature subject, several centuries behind more mature fields. Historians are clueless about how history works and don't even realize that they are playing at doing serious research and don't actually do it.

Do you want to know more?

[jimmy olsen]

I considered studying history, but I realized in high school that history isn't being done seriously in the academic world. We have the historians we have and not the historians we wish we had. They are clueless about their subject. So history, for me, was out.

What exactly do you mean by this?

In academia history is an incredibly immature subject, several centuries behind more mature fields. Historians are clueless about how history works and don't even realize that they are playing at doing serious research and don't actually do it.

Do you want to know more?

Yes. Enlighten me.

[Eddie Teach]

Be kinda hard to conduct experiments in history.

[Syt]

Be kinda hard to conduct experiments in history.

Not necessarily. In France (IIRC?) they're rebuilding a medieval castle with the methods used at the time to get a better understanding of the working conditions and possibilities of the time. Recreating the past in the present to better understand it is quite en vogue.

[Eddie Teach]

That's not the same thing.