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What is the answer to the Fermi Paradox?

Started by jimmy olsen, November 04, 2013, 08:33:38 PM

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What is the answer to the Fermi Paradox?

Evolution of Life is extremely rare
3 (10.3%)
Evolution of Intelligent Life is extremely rare
8 (27.6%)
Intelligent Life destroys itself soon after it becomes able to do so
6 (20.7%)
An Ancient space faring civilization destroys new advanced species
2 (6.9%)
Interstellar travel and communication are both impossible
6 (20.7%)
Other - Please Explain
4 (13.8%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Valmy

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 04, 2013, 11:54:42 PM
No one's voted for the Reapers? :weep:

There Tim, just for you.

Though I was in fact voting for The Eternal Ones from Star Control 3...which is weird since that game had a horrible plot.
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Grinning_Colossus

It wouldn't have to be a single civilization, or even a very ancient one. The ability to detect intelligent life and launch and target a relativistic projectile as well as an understanding of the advantages of defection in game theory is all it would take.
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Ideologue

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 04, 2013, 11:19:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 04, 2013, 10:52:38 PM

I also wouldn't be surprised if there were many non-radiating civilizations.  Nukes and television isn't humanity's default state, living in small groups as hunters and gatherers is.  That such people would be incredibly boring to meet also seems to have failed to cross would-be space explorers' minds.
Are you seriously retarded?  :huh:

Meeting an intelligent alien race, even one in a stage of development equivalent to the paleolithic would be the most interesting encounter in the history of humanity.

OK.  Let me restate my thesis: they would be boring to talk to.  "No, thunderbolts aren't evil spirits.  No, I don't want to eat your poisonous indigenous food.  No, I'm not a god."
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Queequeg

That's totally and completely absurd.  There'd be millions of man-hours of research in to their language alone.
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Queequeg

Pinker, Chomsky and the entire MIT Linguistics department would bust entire rivers of cum for the ability to look at development of language in completely unrelated sapient species. Anthropology would change it's name and at least double in size.  It'd be nuts.  Totally and completely nuts.  What are you talking about?
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Eddie Teach

95% of what the MIT Linguistics department does would probably bore a normal person to tears.
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Queequeg

So?  I can't really think of a part of the Academy that wouldn't be interested in Stone Age equivalent non-terrestrial Sapient species.  Maybe Physics.  Biology and the Humanities would freak the hell out.  It wouldn't even be the Humanities anymore.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Queequeg

Anthropology has spent the last 70 years freaking out over a few Frenchmen's experiences in the Amazon. This would just upend everything.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Ideologue

#23
I accepted that it would be interesting from a scientific standpoint.  But that's true of any new species, terrestrial or otherwise, intelligent or otherwise.  I'm talking about economic and cultural interchange; in those terms, a paleolithic civilization has little to offer in comparison even to a shitty bronze age society.
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The Brain

My impression is that life probably is fairly common. But it's very hard to say how likely the step from life to intelligent life is. And then there's the step from intelligent life to intelligent life that develops a technologically advanced civilization. One bal-de-sac is intelligent life that lives in the ocean; they are very unlikely to ever develop advanced technology.
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Eddie Teach

Why not, they could manipulate objects with their tentacles.
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Grinning_Colossus

Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

The Brain

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 05, 2013, 04:16:09 AM
Why not, they could manipulate objects with their tentacles.

Why is it that whenever you mention marine life everyone just assumes "tentacles"? :rolleyes:
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Eddie Teach

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The Brain

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