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Review of the Chinese "Top Gun" movie

Started by Barrister, October 31, 2013, 03:10:23 PM

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Barrister

QuoteI Watched China's 'Top Gun' — So You Don't Have To
'I feel the need, the need for 速度!'

The Chinese government wants to take you into the danger zone. In 2011 Beijing released Sky Fighters, China's answer to Top Gun. Like Top Gun, it's about fighter pilots waging aerial war for their country.

But that's where the comparison ends. Made by the Chinese military as domestic propaganda, Sky Fighters is possibly the worst movie with fighter planes ever made. And that's saying a lot.

The film imitates Top Gun relentlessly in scene after scene, but in many ways it's the American film's exact opposite. While Top Gun is proof that a cheesy film can still be immensely enjoyable, Sky Fighters proves that a movie with fighter planes can actually be pretty awful.

Not quite Maverick and Goose. Sky Fighters screengrab
Sky Fighters is a movie about the pilots of Air Division 903, a storied unit of the Chinese air force that has turned out "tens of generals" during its illustrious history. The action starts with two pilots engaged in air-to-air combat training. Yin Shang Hu, the cocky upstart, outmaneuvers his superior officer, Yue Tianlong, by using the famous Pugachev's Cobra aerial maneuver.

The rest of the film is hard to describe, because Sky Fighters doesn't really have a plot. It's merely a collection of incidents that prove the superiority of the Chinese system, as advocated by Yue.

Which system? All of them.

In lieu of a plot, Sky Fighters poses a series of challenges to Yue Tianlong, each of which he excels at. One of the main themes of the film is the friction between Yue and Yin Shang Hu over 903's training. Yue thinks they should focus on "researching and drilling," which sounds like oil fracking, but in reality is a hallmark of socialist-style air force doctrine. His junior commander believes that practicing aerial acrobatics is better. The film implies Americans and European fighter pilots are only interested in aerobatics.

You can see where this is going.

No. Not the same thing as Top Gun. Not at all. Sky Fighters screengrab
The film constantly apes Top Gun, but if imitation is indeed the sincerest form of flattery, Sky Fighters still manages to insult the original with one poor imitation after another. In Top Gun, Tom Cruise wears a leather flight jacket while riding a Kawasaki Ninja 900 motorcycle with a "NO WIMPS" sticker plastered on the side, as Kenny Loggins howls Danger Zone and two Pratt & Whitney TF-30 turbofan engines roar. It's cheesy, but it's become a pop culture icon partly because it's real.

In Sky Fighters, that scene somehow becomes an ornithologist on a cheap Suzuki bike pacing a pair of J-10 fighters. A woman sings in the background in Chinese operatic style, the jet noise barely noticeable. And instead of being filmed with real jets, the entire scene is a combination of blue screen and CGI so bad it looks like a cut scene from a Facebook game.

The boys of Division 903 fly inverted above an American F-16, just like in Top Gun. But it's not funny, it's lame; it's been done before with real planes. Yue even requests to do a fly-by. But his "salute to the Motherland people" is just as tame as it sounds, nothing like Maverick's in-your-face buzzing of the control tower.

J-10 from 903 Division hunts chases a hostile drone. Sky Fighters screengrab
The film does break with Top Gun in a few standout ways: the protagonist of Sky Fighters, Yue Tianlong, is about the opposite of Tom Cruise's Maverick as one could imagine.

He doesn't have a cool call sign, just a three-digit number. He isn't a junior pilot with a dead father complex thumbing his nose at authority—he's the commander of an air division. He is authority. He doesn't seduce the beautiful blonde intelligence contractor. No, he's married to a woman never seen outside of a military uniform. He's not prone to unorthodox piloting, he's a strictly by-the-book pilot. Yeah, he's really boring.

Unlike in Top Gun, the maverick fighter pilot is the antagonist. You were looking for a rebel hero? You're not getting one. Why? Because the Chinese government doesn't want rebels.

Roughly two-thirds into the film it occurred to me that Yue Tianlong isn't just the division commander: he's a stand-in for the Chinese Communist Party. He leads the division, providing leadership and direction. He's wise and hardworking, and when he gives instruction, people succeed.

Rarely has a leader cared so much for his troops. Sky Fighters screengrab
He even plays matchmaker, and when the division deploys to Xinjiang for exercises, helpfully brings along a bag of tampons for his female airmen. That isn't awkward at all! There's no end to his boundless wisdom and kindness! Why would anyone find fault with his appointed rule?

The use of CGI also leads to bizarre flying antics, such as when a computer-generated J-10 fighter drifts horizontally like a race car. Planes fly in straight lines at a 10-degree angle of attack. At one point the main character tilts the nose of his plane vertically and the plane plows forward through the air, belly first, for 24 seconds. To stirring orchestra music, of course.

In another scene, Yue's engine conks out while he's trying to teach himself the Cobra maneuver. Yue manages to set the plane down, only to have the landing gear collapse. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of Chinese engineering.

That's one way to put it. Sky Fighters screen grab
The Chinese Communist Party is ever-present in the film, represented by the division's political commissar. The commissar isn't like some nosy, Tokarev-waving, grim-faced Marxist-Leninist fanatic in the Red Army. Instead he's a plump, dumpy man whose broad face expresses concern at moments of key decisions. He doesn't seem to actually do anything. He's kind of like Counselor Troi in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

The film's subtitles ... well, if you've ever seen the subtitles of a bootleg Chinese movie, you know the lack of quality. Ironically, the poor translation only makes the film more enjoyable. Slightly more enjoyable.

Sky Fighters is Top Gun with the imagery preserved, but the life—and frankly any bit of joy—sucked out of it. It defies my attempts to make fun of it. Despite the occasional glimpses into real-life Chinese air force operations, it was boring. I couldn't wait for it to end.

The moral of Sky Fighters: authoritarian regimes can't do fun war movies.

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/2a454bf48e9d

I saw this and thought of Languish.  :blush:
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Barrister

Follow the link for screen grabs, and a youtube link to the whole movie if you're curious (I'm not).
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Admiral Yi

QuoteThe Chinese Communist Party is ever-present in the film, represented by the division's political commissar. The commissar isn't like some nosy, Tokarev-waving, grim-faced Marxist-Leninist fanatic in the Red Army. Instead he's a plump, dumpy man whose broad face expresses concern at moments of key decisions. He doesn't seem to actually do anything. He's kind of like Counselor Troi in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

:lol:

Bullseye.  Cpt. Picard has emergency.  Counselor Toi furrows brow.

The Brain

The Maverick-Iceman hug is the greatest moment in cinema. I don't see Chinamen match that.
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Siege

QuoteSky Fighters is Top Gun with the imagery preserved, but the life—and frankly any bit of joy—sucked out of it. It defies my attempts to make fun of it. Despite the occasional glimpses into real-life Chinese air force operations, it was boring. I couldn't wait for it to end.

Why assume this is the way they run their air force?
Western war movies very rarely get it right, so I don't see why the chicoms could do better.




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Eddie Teach

Quote from: The Brain on October 31, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
The Maverick-Iceman hug is the greatest moment in cinema.

Even better than Dolph Lundgren killing Carl Weathers?
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The Brain

Quote from: Siege on October 31, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
QuoteSky Fighters is Top Gun with the imagery preserved, but the life—and frankly any bit of joy—sucked out of it. It defies my attempts to make fun of it. Despite the occasional glimpses into real-life Chinese air force operations, it was boring. I couldn't wait for it to end.

Why assume this is the way they run their air force?
Western war movies very rarely get it right, so I don't see why the chicoms could do better.

They take female things.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

The Brain

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 31, 2013, 03:26:01 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 31, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
The Maverick-Iceman hug is the greatest moment in cinema.

Even better than Dolph Lundgren killing Carl Weathers?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I wasn't being serious.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 31, 2013, 03:17:39 PM
QuoteThe Chinese Communist Party is ever-present in the film, represented by the division's political commissar. The commissar isn't like some nosy, Tokarev-waving, grim-faced Marxist-Leninist fanatic in the Red Army. Instead he's a plump, dumpy man whose broad face expresses concern at moments of key decisions. He doesn't seem to actually do anything. He's kind of like Counselor Troi in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

:lol:

Bullseye.  Cpt. Picard has emergency.  Counselor Toi furrows brow.

:lol: "I sense a high level of stress in you, Captain."

mongers

Quote from: Barrister on October 31, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
QuoteI Watched China's 'Top Gun' — So You Don't Have To
'I feel the need, the need for 速度!'

The Chinese government wants to take you into the danger zone. In 2011 Beijing released Sky Fighters, China's answer to Top Gun. Like Top Gun, it's about fighter pilots waging aerial war for their country.

But that's where the comparison ends. Made by the Chinese military as domestic propaganda
, Sky Fighters is possibly the worst movie with fighter planes ever made. And that's saying a lot.

The film imitates Top Gun relentlessly in scene after scene, but in many ways it's the American film's exact opposite. While Top Gun is proof that a cheesy film can still be immensely enjoyable, Sky Fighters proves that a movie with fighter planes can actually be pretty awful.
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https://medium.com/war-is-boring/2a454bf48e9d

I saw this and thought of Languish.  :blush:

And there's no elements of 'Top Gun' that could be seen as domestic propaganda for the US military ?

Seems like they thought, lets do some pro-military propaganda, looked at one of the most effective films and thought well just copy it, but failed miserably. 
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: mongers on October 31, 2013, 06:07:18 PM
And there's no elements of 'Top Gun' that could be seen as domestic propaganda for the US military ?

There are elements of every movie ever made that could be seen as propaganda for something or another.

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MadBurgerMaker

The Archer Danger Zone commercial is probably better. 

Well.....that's better than a lot of things.