CSI Venezuela

[Barrister]

Maduro's solution to his country's problem: MOAR ARMED MILITIAS

Wonder what he thinks his best case scenario is?

I suspect he's just playing out the string at this point.  Maduro has no real exit plan at this point.  There's no country he can flee to that would give him protection (or even if he does go to, say, Cuba, all of the senior leadership of Chavistas can't exactly follow).  If the Chavista government falls they're liable to prosecution or just straight-up mob violence.

Valmy - where does he go with those hundreds of millions that won't lock him up and send him back to Venezuela if extradition is requested?

[Valmy]

Valmy - where does he go with those hundreds of millions that won't lock him up and send him back to Venezuela if extradition is requested?

These guys always find someplace.

[frunk]

Valmy - where does he go with those hundreds of millions that won't lock him up and send him back to Venezuela if extradition is requested?

I think there are plenty of places that, if he can escape with the money, will hold onto him for some fraction of his take.

[Berkut]

I hear Moscow is nice.

[Barrister]

Valmy - where does he go with those hundreds of millions that won't lock him up and send him back to Venezuela if extradition is requested?

These guys always find someplace.

Not really.  I mean - US backed dictators make out okay.  Marcos died in comfortable exile, as did the Shah. Duvalier was okay until he foolishly went back to Haiti on his own.

But dictators who were stridently anti-US?  Idi Amin lived in Saudi Arabia, hardly a vacation spot.  Tunisia's Ben Ali also lives there.

Cuba and Russia... they certainly don't want Maduro and Co to lose power, so they may not give them much of an option to flee.

[Admiral Yi]

Can't remember where he ended up but Carter famously denied entry to the Shah.

[frunk]

Can't remember where he ended up but Carter famously denied entry to the Shah.

I think he ended up in France (edit: nope, Egypt).

[Eddie Teach]

Can't remember where he ended up but Carter famously denied entry to the Shah.

He did? I thought that was their pretext for the hostages. 

[CountDeMoney]

It'll be like Afghanistan, but with hypnotic Carribean rythm and flair.

[Syt]

Time to break this out again:

[Ed Anger]

First game was better.

[Savonarola]

While reading an article yesterday I came across the word autogolpe which is a coup organized by the government itself to allow it to take extra powers.  On the one hand that there is such a word in the Spanish language tells a great deal about Latin America.  On the other hand, as an English speaker, I think we should steal this word just in case we ever have use for it.   

("False flag" or "Wag the dog" would be related concepts in English, but nowhere near as specific as autogolpe.)

[Grey Fox]

Can't remember where he ended up but Carter famously denied entry to the Shah.

He did? I thought that was their pretext for the hostages. 

He was in the USA when they took the hostages. At the Cornell Medical Center or in Texas.

[Duque de Bragança]

Can't remember where he ended up but Carter famously denied entry to the Shah.

I think he ended up in France (edit: nope, Egypt).

The Iranian who ended up in France for a while was Khomeiny. 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

While reading an article yesterday I came across the word autogolpe which is a coup organized by the government itself to allow it to take extra powers.  On the one hand that there is such a word in the Spanish language tells a great deal about Latin America.  On the other hand, as an English speaker, I think we should steal this word just in case we ever have use for it.   

("False flag" or "Wag the dog" would be related concepts in English, but nowhere near as specific as autogolpe.)

Maybe they have a good Turkish word?