13th Century Mass Murderer Identified By Modern 'Criminal' Investigation.

Started by mongers, October 01, 2013, 05:13:22 PM

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garbon

Quote from: merithyn on October 02, 2013, 12:01:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 11:54:09 AM
Actually given that it is easy, will Meri please clear up for me who killed Lord Darnley, ordered the hit on Andrew (Duke of Calabria), and where those princes in the tower went?

I forgot that this was Languish, where words mean whatever others want them to mean, rather than how they were used in sentences.

So learning about royalty and wars is not easy? And the information is not handy?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
I am not going to read it, but how the hell, has the thread about a cool thing turned into Meri-bashing after she mentioned her cool interest in a cool period?

What a sorry-ass place this can be at times.


Yes, it is rather sad if you look at it way.   :)

And if people actually read what Meri posted in reply to my comment, rather than someone else's version of it, they'd see what an odd reactive mentality is being expressed in this thread.


TBH, I thought you and Meri to be sounding rather dismissive about the part of history I like most, but wouldn't have said anything if Valmy hadn't gotten angry.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 02, 2013, 12:01:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 11:54:09 AM
Actually given that it is easy, will Meri please clear up for me who killed Lord Darnley, ordered the hit on Andrew (Duke of Calabria), and where those princes in the tower went?

I forgot that this was Languish, where words mean whatever others want them to mean, rather than how they were used in sentences.

So learning about royalty and wars is not easy? And the information is not handy?

Do carry on digging, or is it building a bridge, or maybe a sniper's nest ?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

garbon

Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 02, 2013, 12:01:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 11:54:09 AM
Actually given that it is easy, will Meri please clear up for me who killed Lord Darnley, ordered the hit on Andrew (Duke of Calabria), and where those princes in the tower went?

I forgot that this was Languish, where words mean whatever others want them to mean, rather than how they were used in sentences.

So learning about royalty and wars is not easy? And the information is not handy?

Do carry on digging, or is it building a bridge, or maybe a sniper's nest ?

Well either she meant what she said when she said it was easy and the information is handy or she didn't. Is there some other meaning for what those words mean?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
I am not going to read it, but how the hell, has the thread about a cool thing turned into Meri-bashing after she mentioned her cool interest in a cool period?

What a sorry-ass place this can be at times.


Yes, it is rather sad if you look at it way.   :)

And if people actually read what Meri posted in reply to my comment, rather than someone else's version of it, they'd see what an odd reactive mentality is being expressed in this thread.


TBH, I thought you and Meri to be sounding rather dismissive about the part of history I like most, but wouldn't have said anything if Valmy hadn't gotten angry.

I say it again, how do you get that, from me saying "A nice contrast.." ?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

garbon

Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
I am not going to read it, but how the hell, has the thread about a cool thing turned into Meri-bashing after she mentioned her cool interest in a cool period?

What a sorry-ass place this can be at times.


Yes, it is rather sad if you look at it way.   :)

And if people actually read what Meri posted in reply to my comment, rather than someone else's version of it, they'd see what an odd reactive mentality is being expressed in this thread.


TBH, I thought you and Meri to be sounding rather dismissive about the part of history I like most, but wouldn't have said anything if Valmy hadn't gotten angry.

I say it again, how do you get that, from me saying "A nice contrast.." ?

Because you stated the latter bit as entirely formulaic. You even reduced many of the inputs to symbols (letters).  And then Meri followed up by saying that sort of stuff was easy.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:08:56 PM

So learning about royalty and wars is not easy? And the information is not handy?

The information is far more handy than on the topics that I find interesting, yes. Am I mistaken on this? If so, please, share where all of this mountain of information on 13th-century British serfs is, because I've been beating my head against a brick wall for two decades! It would sure help me a lot!

Learning about royalty (who, what, where, why) and wars (who, what, where, why) is easy. Getting into the nitty-gritty of it, not so much. But again, I don't really care about that stuff. And the reality is that there are dozens upon dozens of historians who work very hard to figure that kind of stuff out, so even if you don't want to go through the papers and codices yourself, someone else has already probably done so. The stuff I want to learn? Not so much.

Which has been my point from the beginning. I don't really care about that stuff, and if I did, it would be easier to learn more about it than the stuff that I do actually care about.

I wasn't sniping at those who enjoy those things. I was stating my personal preference. If you guys took offense to that, well, fuck. Get over yourselves. It was never about you.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

mongers

Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:12:38 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 02, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
I am not going to read it, but how the hell, has the thread about a cool thing turned into Meri-bashing after she mentioned her cool interest in a cool period?

What a sorry-ass place this can be at times.


Yes, it is rather sad if you look at it way.   :)

And if people actually read what Meri posted in reply to my comment, rather than someone else's version of it, they'd see what an odd reactive mentality is being expressed in this thread.


TBH, I thought you and Meri to be sounding rather dismissive about the part of history I like most, but wouldn't have said anything if Valmy hadn't gotten angry.

I say it again, how do you get that, from me saying "A nice contrast.." ?

Because you stated the latter bit as entirely formulaic. You even reduced many of the inputs to symbols (letters).  And then Meri followed up by saying that sort of stuff was easy.

Do carry on, you're constructing an epic papier-mâché bridge over what you think I said and meant.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

garbon

Quote from: mongers on October 02, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
Do carry on, you're constructing an epic papier-mâché bridge over what you think I said and meant.

Hey, I believe you if that isn't what you intended - I'm just explaining how I perceived it. I don't think that has anything to do with building epic bridges. :huh:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on October 02, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
If you guys took offense to that, well, fuck. Get over yourselves. It was never about you.

Calm down, you're acting emotional.

*Actually I didn't want to say that, and feel bad that I did, but then you are the one getting heated.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

merithyn

Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:17:38 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 02, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
If you guys took offense to that, well, fuck. Get over yourselves. It was never about you.

Calm down, you're acting emotional.

*Actually I didn't want to say that, and feel bad that I did, but then you are the one getting heated.

:mellow:

Wow. Really. I get attacked because of my personal interests, I defend myself against those attacks, and this is how you - really, you? - respond?

I don't know why this still surprises me, and yet, everytime, it does.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on October 02, 2013, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2013, 12:17:38 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 02, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
If you guys took offense to that, well, fuck. Get over yourselves. It was never about you.

Calm down, you're acting emotional.

*Actually I didn't want to say that, and feel bad that I did, but then you are the one getting heated.

:mellow:

Wow. Really. I get attacked because of my personal interests, I defend myself against those attacks, and this is how you - really, you? - respond?

I don't know why this still surprises me, and yet, everytime, it does.

I think we have a different definition of attacks and I don't think anything here stemmed from you being interested in a different facet of history. Also, you're the one who escalated to foul language.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

Quote from: The Brain on October 02, 2013, 12:22:25 PM
History that is about Timur is lame.

Don't you dare say anything about the medieval wine trade or your have JR on your case.  :)
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"