The Government Shutdown Countdown Lowdown MEGATHREAD

[merithyn]

Well his point is that those people should not be employed by the federal government as their is no real need for them be employed by the federal government. That might be true or not, I really have no idea. But this isn't the way to find it out.

I understood his point. And I agree with you that this isn't the way to go about this.

[Jacob]

I was a bit confused by the bit earlier in the discussion when you said you didn't understand it, but it's all good

[Jacob]

So apparently the Democrats have hit on a procedural ploy to allow them to turn a previously filed Republican bill into  a clean continuing resolution and bring it forward with a discharge petition.

If 17-18 or more moderate Republicans are willing to sign on to a clean CR, then the government should be up and running before the debt ceiling expires.

According to this, at least... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/04/dems-move-to-force-republicans-to-reopen-the-government/

We'll see how it pans out.

[Jacob]

Meanwhile, major defense firms start laying off people: http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/industry/326687-defense-firms-to-begin-thousands-of-furloughs-monday

Lockheed Martin, Boeing and other defense firms will furlough thousands of employees starting on Monday if the government shutdown has not ended.

Lockheed Martin said Friday that 3,000 employees would face furloughs on Monday due to the shutdown.

United Technologies Corp.'s (UTC) subsidiary Sikorsky plans to furlough 2,000 employees Monday if the shutdown is still in effect, and the defense firm said Pratt and Whitney and UTC Aerospace System could also issue 2,000 furloughs next week.

In all, UTC said more than 5,000 employees could be furloughed if the shutdown lasted into November.

Boeing said that it could issue furloughs "in the coming days," and BAE Systems Inc. indicated 10 to 15 percent of its 35,000-person workforce could be impacted by the shutdown.

The defense industry warned the Pentagon in a letter Thursday that thousands of furloughs would hit the industry due to the 400,000 civilians who are furloughed within the Defense Department.

[Jacob]

... but at least Newt Gingrich has his priorities straight. He offered to pay our of his personal funds to keep the Smithsonian Zoo's panda cam running in spite of the shutdown: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/newt-zoo-shutdown

[lustindarkness]

So apparently the Democrats have hit on a procedural ploy to allow them to turn a previously filed Republican bill into  a clean continuing resolution and bring it forward with a discharge petition.

If 17-18 or more moderate Republicans are willing to sign on to a clean CR, then the government should be up and running before the debt ceiling expires.

According to this, at least... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/04/dems-move-to-force-republicans-to-reopen-the-government/

We'll see how it pans out.

That may work, at least puts pressure to get something going.

[The Brain]

If my employer were fucking with my paycheck I'd quit instantly.

[mongers]

It seems insane to allow this train to roll on into the buffer of the debt ceiling or is no one going to apply the brakes on this runaway train ?

Won't the president and congress need a clear week or so to sort out the debt ceiling/crisis ?

[Tamas]

It seems insane to allow this train to roll on into the buffer of the debt ceiling or is no one going to apply the brakes on this runaway train ?

Won't the president and congress need a clear week or so to sort out the debt ceiling/crisis ?

You don't understand the severity of the situation for the Republicans for the last several years. Here is an artistic representation of their angst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I

[Ed Anger]

http://youtu.be/Nm-tAFB7bMY

[Jacob]

http://youtu.be/Nm-tAFB7bMY

I would have thought you'd go with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0

[Tamas]

don't tell me you are not bored of it. 

[mongers]

don't tell me you are not bored of it. 

Is America now governed worst than Hungary yet ?

[Admiral Yi]

CNN aired footage of the GOP Congressman berating the US Park Ranger.

What I don't get about the story is, how do you close an outdoor memorial?

[Jacob]

What I don't get about the story is, how do you close an outdoor memorial?

Is that a rhetorical question?

As I understand it, they boarded it up and possibly put some cordons up as well.