No cell phones allowed: Some colleges ban modern-day gadgets

Started by garbon, September 03, 2013, 11:20:58 AM

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mongers

Quote from: merithyn on September 03, 2013, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 03, 2013, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 03, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Yep.  This school is using student loans to turn people into retards who don't know how to operate in mainstream society.  Great.

Your hatred of all things Liberal Arts will be your undoing, young Hunakin Skywalker.

I see nothing wrong with unplugging from the distractions of modern life and returning to a more classical model of learning, one based upon scholarly reflection with an emphasis on the dialectic method.  The Lyceum didn't have ethernet.

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Yeah. Meri I owe you a reply in the Out and About thread, now where is it.
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garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 03, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Yep.  This school is using student loans to turn people into retards who don't know how to operate in mainstream society.  Great.

Your hatred of all things Liberal Arts will be your undoing, young Hunakin Skywalker.

I see nothing wrong with unplugging from the distractions of modern life and returning to a more classical model of learning, one based upon scholarly reflection with an emphasis on the dialectic method.  The Lyceum didn't have ethernet.

Sure enough if the student chooses that*. A school choosing to restrict outside communication as well as heavily censoring the internet doesn't seem like a positive to me.

*though why they have enough willpower to make that choice but not follow through if not forced to is another matter.
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MadBurgerMaker

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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 05:26:07 PM
Your hatred of all things Liberal Arts will be your undoing, young Hunakin Skywalker.

I see nothing wrong with unplugging from the distractions of modern life and returning to a more classical model of learning, one based upon scholarly reflection with an emphasis on the dialectic method.  The Lyceum didn't have ethernet.

They're taking Facebook, a form of modern communications (phone), and fun (porn :P) away, not the entire internet.  They allow access to the internet there, as long as they are sites approved by Wyoming Catholic College, with dorm wifi being more restricted than publicly connected computers for whatever dumb reason.  If it's good enough for public computers, why can't they access it in their dorm rooms? 

E: I wonder if Youtube is banned from the dorm rooms, but available on the public computers.   

E2:  I just noticed you might think I was talking about Facebook for all of those. 

Ideologue

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 03, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Yep.  This school is using student loans to turn people into retards who don't know how to operate in mainstream society.  Great.

Your hatred of all things Liberal Arts will be your undoing, young Hunakin Skywalker.

My mastery of the liberal arts allowed me to have a conversation about vegetarianism (he brought it up) with my local Subway's new franchisee, wherein I successfully identified his specific religion (Vaishnavite Hinduism) and his origins (Gujarat, India, home of the largest concentration of Vaishnava Hindus per capita).  He seemed pretty pleased that some white boy was aware of his cultural heritage.  I also asked if he could eat spicy stuff, and we agreed it was good and permitted by God. :)

My mastery of the liberal arts has not so far, however, allowed me to get a good, permanent job.

So the question of whether liberal arts enriches my life when unemployment insurance is paying for my sub sandwich is a pretty moot one.

(Also, my lack of internalized quant skills means I should've gotten that guess wrong, since while Gujarat has the highest concentration, Uttar Pradesh has the highest absolute number, so all things being equal it would have likelier that he came from there.)
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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

Quote from: garbon on September 03, 2013, 06:56:45 PM
Is this where we pat you on the head?

Even if you displayed genuine sympathy for anyone other than yourself, I doubt anyone would believe it.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ideologue on September 03, 2013, 06:54:43 PM
My mastery of the liberal arts allowed me to have a conversation about vegetarianism (he brought it up) with my local Subway's new franchisee, wherein I successfully identified his specific religion (Vaishnavite Hinduism) and his origins (Gujarat, India, home of the largest concentration of Vaishnava Hindus per capita).

That's not mastery of the liberal arts;  that's mastery of the Food Network and the Travel Channel.

QuoteMy mastery of the liberal arts has not so far allowed me to get a good, permanent job.

Perhaps your mastery of law is the problem, Doctor.  Don't blame Ovid.

QuoteSo the question of whether liberal arts enriches my life when unemployment insurance is paying for my sub sandwich is a pretty moot one.

I don't recall asking that question.

Quote(Also, my lack of internalized quant skills means I should've gotten that guess wrong, since while Gujarat has the highest concentration, Uttar Pradesh has the highest absolute number, so all things being equal it would have likelier that he came from there.)

Who cares.  Smelly brown pipples are still smelly brown pipples.  Don't need a liberal arts education to recognize that.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 03, 2013, 06:17:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 05:26:07 PM
Your hatred of all things Liberal Arts will be your undoing, young Hunakin Skywalker.

I see nothing wrong with unplugging from the distractions of modern life and returning to a more classical model of learning, one based upon scholarly reflection with an emphasis on the dialectic method.  The Lyceum didn't have ethernet.

They're taking Facebook, a form of modern communications (phone), and fun (porn :P) away, not the entire internet.  They allow access to the internet there, as long as they are sites approved by Wyoming Catholic College, with dorm wifi being more restricted than publicly connected computers for whatever dumb reason.  If it's good enough for public computers, why can't they access it in their dorm rooms? 

Because they're attempting to create, promote and foster an environment where the distractions of modern bullshit is reduced to as much as possible.  And limited internet access means more JSTOR, less Facebook. 

Hey, if colleges can ban smoking on their premises for the greater good--"the greater good"--they can restrict Internet silliness for the educational environment.

MadBurgerMaker

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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
Because they're attempting to create, promote and foster an environment where the distractions of modern bullshit is reduced to as much as possible.  And limited internet access means more JSTOR, less Facebook. 

Hey, if colleges can ban smoking on their premises for the greater good--"the greater good"--they can restrict Internet silliness for the educational environment.

If they want to actually do something helpful, they could teach their students how to function in an environment where those distractions exist.  AKA everywhere else in the world that doesn't suck ass.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 03, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
If they want to actually do something helpful, they could teach their students how to function in an environment where those distractions exist.  AKA everywhere else in the world that is worth being.

And how would they do that, exactly?  How could an institution of higher education teach students how to function in an environment where those distractions exist?  And what would be the justification for why they would teach students these skills?  Did your college teach you how?

MadBurgerMaker

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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
And how would they do that, exactly?  How could an institution of higher education teach students how to function in an environment where those distractions exist?  And what would be the justification for why they would teach students these skills? Did your college teach you how?

Well, yeah my college taught me how, at least in a way.  Distractions were there, they expected me to continue to function, I continued to function.  They sure as hell didn't just take it all away and hope it works out for the best after I step off campus and suddenly omg there's youtube

Anyway, it's kind of my job to function in an environment that contains all those distractions.  It's also part of my job to make sure those distractions continue to function.  Did I mention that I work at a university?

Ideologue

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
Hey, if colleges can ban smoking on their premises for the greater good--"the greater good"--they can restrict Internet silliness for the educational environment.

:D
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 03, 2013, 07:31:56 PM
Anyway, it's kind of my job to function in an environment that contains all those distractions.  It's also part of my job to make sure those distractions continue to function.  Did I mention that I work at a university?

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MadBurgerMaker

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 03, 2013, 07:35:35 PM
Fat, drunk and constantly trying to fix PeopleSoft incompatibility issues is no way to go through life, son.

I don't do PeopleSoft. 

CountDeMoney