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Peak Water in the US South?

Started by Jacob, August 21, 2013, 12:34:48 AM

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Jacob

Article here: http://scienceblogs.com/significantfigures/index.php/2013/08/19/peak-water-in-the-american-west/

Factual? Hyperbolic hysteria? Somewhere in between?

What says languish - and especially languishites living in the (allegedly) affected areas?

Jacob

... okay, the article says "US West" not South.

Habbaku

Quote from: Jacob on August 21, 2013, 12:36:46 AM
... okay, the article says "US West" not South.

:lol:  Was wondering.  Though the last several years have been drought-prone, this past year has been one of the wettest for Georgia that I can recall.
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The Colorado River basin has water issues film at 23.
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Habbaku

As for the article, I don't see anything glaringly wrong with it, but I have never studied the issues terribly deeply--just a few articles here and there about the same problems, year-in, year-out.

The recommendations at the end (high efficiency washers, a cultural shift away from water-intensive lawn-care and farming) seem pretty reasonable to me.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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CountDeMoney

It's the environment, Xiacob.  Nobody gives a shit.

Razgovory

I take issue with the phrase "peak water" as it invokes the idea of peak oil a distinctly different concept.  Water is a fairly renewable resource while petroleum is not.  That's not merely a pedantic thing, it means that the solutions to the scarcity of these resources can be addressed in different ways.  Only other gripe is the thing about Fracking which seems to be just another trendy bugbear at the moment.


That said, there is a serious issue of water shortages in the Southwest, probably due mostly to overpopulation and poor planning.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 21, 2013, 05:57:28 AM
It's the environment, Xiacob.  Nobody gives a shit.

It is a pretty serious problem in Texas.  I think it is going to be what eventually finally caps our growth.

It was so serious the Tea Party spent considerable political effort telling us that big government is not the solution to the water problems...because the private sector will solve it for profit or something.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on August 21, 2013, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 21, 2013, 05:57:28 AM
It's the environment, Xiacob.  Nobody gives a shit.

It is a pretty serious problem in Texas.  I think it is going to be what eventually finally caps our growth.

It was so serious the Tea Party spent considerable political effort telling us that big government is not the solution to the water problems...because the private sector will solve it for profit or something.

I imagine it's harder for people to hand wave the water shortages then it is to hand wave the idea of global climate change.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

I think it'd be nice if the southwest dropped the manicured lawns bit and generally went bank to just desert landscapes. Grass looks ridiculous and is super expensive to maintain out there.
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on August 21, 2013, 09:21:27 AM
I think it'd be nice if the southwest dropped the manicured lawns bit and generally went bank to just desert landscapes. Grass looks ridiculous and is super expensive to maintain out there.

No shit.  BUt the pressure to maintain one is immense when everybody else on the block has one <_<
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Quote from: Valmy on August 21, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

No shit.  BUt the pressure to maintain one is immense when everybody else on the block has one <_<

Also when the douchebags in the homeowners association get all pissy when you let it die over the summer.   <_< 

My grass is still mostly hanging on somehow this summer though.  I haven't watered it at all except the part up by my bushes that get watered with the drip hose thing once a week. 

Valmy

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 21, 2013, 09:28:11 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 21, 2013, 09:23:08 AM

No shit.  BUt the pressure to maintain one is immense when everybody else on the block has one <_<

Also when the douchebags in the homeowners association gets all pissy when you let it die over the summer.   <_< 

Yeah...WTF?  Summer is my break from mowing people :contract:

I mean you have to spend money and work hard to get your damn grass to grow...so then you can spend money and work hard to cut it.  Just pisses me off.
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