How many people in Quebec are like Viper and Grallon?

[Eddie Teach]

Maybe. 

[Valmy]

That funny part is they did not change that flag until 2001 

Ah the South.  Mississippi only approved the the 13th Amendment like a week ago or something.

[merithyn]

Georgia's flag:

(Think they actually changed it, but I don't care.)

They did.

[Grey Fox]

Here's the flag of my hometown. Yes, that's a beige background

What is it with Quebec and your fascination with ugly 1970's fonts?

Well, everything was designed in the 70s.

@mery, SBR is right, that's an L.

[sbr]

 

[ulmont]

Georgia's flag:


(Think they actually changed it, but I don't care.)

They changed it twice after that one, actually.

The 2001 flag, which cost Governor Roy Barnes the 2002 election:


And then the 2003 flag, after Governor Sonny Perdue had been sworn in:

[Syt]

The flag of Vienna can't decide if it wants to be Indonesian or Danish.



The flags of my German hometowns:

[Admiral Yi]

Your row boat is very nice. 

[Savonarola]

As I've mentioned before my mother's family were among the original settlers of Detroit.  Her grandfather's first language was French; prior to the First World War Detroit still had a French speaking district.  That disappeared with the rise of the automobile industry; with industrialization and the rise of cities enclaves like that have largely disappeared throughout the United States.  I think French Canadians look at that and assume they're going to be run over by the juggernaut of Anglo-American culture unless something drastic is done.  There's been language laws since the 1970s, but they don't seem to have stemmed this, or at least not enough to be to the liking of Nationalists.

From an American perspective language laws and the like seem like foolishness; but French speakers generally take more pride in their language and linguistic heritage than English speakers (and there's no serious danger of the English language disappearing here.)  It's hard for me to identify with Viper or Grallon's point of view; but I don't think it's completely crazy.

(Interestingly enough one of my father's ancestors was an Irish soldier in the British army in the beginning of the 19th century.  For his service and received a land grant in Quebec.  The British hoped that the soldiers would be a counter balance to the French influence in the region; and you know the British don't think highly of your culture when they that that the Irish will be a civilizing influence.)

[Malthus]

As I've mentioned before my mother's family were among the original settlers of Detroit.  Her grandfather's first language was French; prior to the First World War Detroit still had a French speaking district.  That disappeared with the rise of the automobile industry; with industrialization and the rise of cities enclaves like that have largely disappeared throughout the United States.  I think French Canadians look at that and assume they're going to be run over by the juggernaut of Anglo-American culture unless something drastic is done.  There's been language laws since the 1970s, but they don't seem to have stemmed this, or at least not enough to be to the liking of Nationalists.

From an American perspective language laws and the like seem like foolishness; but French speakers generally take more pride in their language and linguistic heritage than English speakers (and there's no serious danger of the English language disappearing here.)  It's hard for me to identify with Viper or Grallon's point of view; but I don't think it's completely crazy.

(Interestingly enough one of my father's ancestors was an Irish soldier in the British army in the beginning of the 19th century.  For his service and received a land grant in Quebec.  The British hoped that the soldiers would be a counter balance to the French influence in the region; and you know the British don't think highly of your culture when they that that the Irish will be a civilizing influence.)

The current proposed legislation isn't about language, though. It's about religious headgear and the like.

The fear is not that they will be assimilated by the Anglos, but that they will be assimilated by the Muslims. Which fear would apply equally no non-French speakers.

[Savonarola]

The current proposed legislation isn't about language, though. It's about religious headgear and the like.

The fear is not that they will be assimilated by the Anglos, but that they will be assimilated by the Muslims. Which fear would apply equally no non-French speakers.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but I took it as there fear was being splintered further (and then easier for the Anglos to pick them off .)  Forcing the Sikhs and Muslims to become French Canadian gives them more numbers.

[Malthus]

The current proposed legislation isn't about language, though. It's about religious headgear and the like.

The fear is not that they will be assimilated by the Anglos, but that they will be assimilated by the Muslims. Which fear would apply equally no non-French speakers.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but I took it as there fear was being splintered further (and then easier for the Anglos to pick them off .)  Forcing the Sikhs and Muslims to become French Canadian gives them more numbers.

I'm unsure what motivates this. The rhetoric in the past was that Sikhs and Muslims etc. could become french-Canadians by the simple expedient of having Canadian citizenship, living in Quebec, and speaking French.

[dps]

My Languish coat of arms is a $2,000 stoller rolling over a Quebec flag. 

Quebec has a flag*?






*Serious question. Not taking the piss out of anyone.

Yup. All provinces do. The Quebec one the one you are most likely to see used.

There was a famous (well, famous here) incident in which some bigots in Ontario stamped on a Quebec flag to show their hatred of that province

Gotta say, Quebec's flag is the best of the Canadian provincial flags, and better than those of most US states.

[Grey Fox]

The current proposed legislation isn't about language, though. It's about religious headgear and the like.

The fear is not that they will be assimilated by the Anglos, but that they will be assimilated by the Muslims. Which fear would apply equally no non-French speakers.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but I took it as there fear was being splintered further (and then easier for the Anglos to pick them off .)  Forcing the Sikhs and Muslims to become French Canadian gives them more numbers.

I'm unsure what motivates this. The rhetoric in the past was that Sikhs and Muslims etc. could become french-Canadians by the simple expedient of having Canadian citizenship, living in Quebec, and speaking French.

I read a survey, that I cant seem to find anymore, that asked whether the host society should adapt to the immigrants coming in or that the immigrants should adapt to the host society.

ROC : 45% Host society should adapt.
Quebec : 24% Host society should adapt.

It seems it is something you will never understand.

[Eddie Teach]

So Canada is only 45% weenie? Lower than expected.