Has Al Qaida Developed a New and Improved Liquid Explosive?

Started by jimmy olsen, August 06, 2013, 03:44:05 AM

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jimmy olsen

Wow, if this is true, that's amazing. :o

How the hell would we stop that?  :unsure:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/us-officials-are-worried-about-new-improved-liquid-explosive/67994/
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U.S. Officials Are Worried About a New and Improved Liquid Explosive
AP

Abby Ohlheiser Aug 5, 2013

U.S. officials are worried that Al Qaeda has a new liquid explosive technique that can't be detected by current security measures, according to the latest trickle of U.S. official-sourced stories in the wake of the unprecedented embassy closures across the Middle East this week.

The story, up at ABC, adds some details to the general sense of why U.S. intelligence was so worried about the latest threat, and the significance of the threat's reported origin in Yemen: that's where Ibrahim al-Asiri is based, a.k.a. the guy behind the bombs constructed for the "underwear bomber" plot of 2009, along with an attempt on a Saudi intelligence chief's life using a bomb surgically implanted into the assassin. ABC explains that the newest idea, believed to be from al-Asiri, "allows terrorists to dip ordinary clothing into the liquid to make the clothes themselves into explosives once dry." Officials are also worried about a repeat attempt with a surgically-implanted bomb.

Meanwhile, the press is learning more details on the previously-reported intercepted message that led U.S. officials to the plot, which is reportedly in its final stages. While we already knew that Al Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri had threatened revenge on the U.S. for a series of drone strikes in the country, a New York Times piece today discloses that the messages intercepted by the U.S. were between al-Zawahri, along with Arabian Peninsula head Nasser al-Wuhayshi (now believed to be the number 2 of the whole organization).

Even as more details emerge, the overall picture remains murky. In a press briefing today, White House spokesman Jay Carney sort of denied that the threat could reach domestically, while reiterating that U.S. intelligence doesn't really know at this point where the planned attack was targeting, only that it was "serious." From their embassy closures, one would have already guessed that officials narrowed down that threat to American government properties in the Middle East. 
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CountDeMoney

Everybody boarding a plane in discomfort or saying they've had recent surgery is getting a bomb-sniffing Belgian Malinois up their ass.

Siege

I have a solution.
But it will be not too popular with today's Languish, full of liberals.



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Siege

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 06, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
Try yesterday's Languish, full of it.

You have also become far more liberal than you used to be.
Old age?


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Razgovory

Quote from: Siege on August 06, 2013, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 06, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
Try yesterday's Languish, full of it.

You have also become far more liberal than you used to be.
Old age?

You used to be a socialist.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Siege on August 06, 2013, 06:38:53 PM
You have also become far more liberal than you used to be.
Old age?

You can't always assume that what people post really reflects 100% what they think.  Part of the point of this kind environment is to go against the grain or take a position to see how it plays out.
In the old days in EUOT I leaned more to the right because there was a lot of lefty and anti-Zionist silliness.   Here it is different.
Overall, in the course of my life I think I have moved to the right as the standard Churchullian model predicts (or was it Disraeli?), although not radically.
At the same time, I also think the US GOP has moved pretty definitively to the right over the last 20 years, and that has hardened my own partisanship if not ideology.  Assessing relative motion is always tricky however. 
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Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 06, 2013, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 06, 2013, 06:38:53 PM
You have also become far more liberal than you used to be.
Old age?

You can't always assume that what people post really reflects 100% what they think.  Part of the point of this kind environment is to go against the grain or take a position to see how it plays out.
In the old days in EUOT I leaned more to the right because there was a lot of lefty and anti-Zionist silliness.   Here it is different.
Overall, in the course of my life I think I have moved to the right as the standard Churchullian model predicts (or was it Disraeli?), although not radically.
At the same time, I also think the US GOP has moved pretty definitively to the right over the last 20 years, and that has hardened my own partisanship if not ideology.  Assessing relative motion is always tricky however.

Yeah, I remember taking a lot more right wing positions back on Pdox.  You had a lot more crazy goof ball Communists and the like.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Viking

Quote from: Siege on August 06, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
I have a solution.
But it will be not too popular with today's Languish, full of liberals.

Banning the religion of Islam?
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Josquius

Quote from: Viking on August 06, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 06, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
I have a solution.
But it will be not too popular with today's Languish, full of liIircberals.

Banning the religion of Islam?

Kill all the semitic peoples?
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Razgovory

Quote from: Tyr on August 06, 2013, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 06, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 06, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
I have a solution.
But it will be not too popular with today's Languish, full of liIircberals.

Banning the religion of Islam?

Kill all the semitic peoples?

The two European dreams.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Warspite

Any chemists here who could say whether this sort of invention is plausible?
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viper37

A long detailed article from Time Magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2148173,00.html

QuoteHe's the brains behind the attempted assassination of a top Saudi counterterrorism official in the summer of 2009, the failed attack on a Detroit-bound plane Christmas 2009 and the plot that nearly brought down two cargo planes in October of 2010. In late July, the head of the transportation administration revealed new details of al-Asiri's latest, most dangerous device, an updated underwear bomb that had fail-safe triggers and used a new kind of explosive that was even harder to detect. Al-Asiri built that bomb for an attack in May 2012 timed to the anniversary of Osama Bin Laden's death, but the plot was foiled by a double agent who gave the device to the FBI.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2148173,00.html#ixzz2bP1UStuK
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Viking

Quote from: Warspite on August 07, 2013, 07:11:45 AM
Any chemists here who could say whether this sort of invention is plausible?

It is plausible. But very very very difficult. The problem I envision here is more of the kind that having an explosive that won't explode when somebody bumps up to you in the check in line AND doesn't require a small chemical lab to extract it from the clothes would be rather difficult.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

mongers

Quote from: Warspite on August 07, 2013, 07:11:45 AM
Any chemists here who could say whether this sort of invention is plausible?

The way I used to dress, now that was a timebomb waiting to go off.  :bowler:
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