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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tonitrus

Quote from: Tonitrus on February 11, 2026, 02:54:26 PMAnd there are also plenty on the right, especially the religious right who just look at the Don as their "dirty deeds done dirt cheap" guy/fixer.  So as long as he packs the Supreme Court and panders to them, they're ok with the hypocrisy.

In the run up to the 2024 election, I saw plenty of anecdotal interviews in the nature of "yeah, he's gross, but he is pushing a conservative authoritarian/populist agenda, so I'll live with it".

Fixed myself.

Tonitrus

Quote from: Valmy on February 11, 2026, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 11, 2026, 02:54:26 PMAnd there are also plenty on the right, especially the religious right who just look at the Don as their "dirty deeds done dirt cheap" guy/fixer.  So as long as he packs the Supreme Court and panders to them, they're ok with the hypocrisy.

In the run up to the 2024 election, I saw plenty of anecdotal interviews in the nature of "yeah, he's gross, but he is pushing a conservative agenda, so I'll live with it".

Yeah...only is he? I think I have said this before but there were loads of things I used to think I could depend on Conservatives to value. Federalism for example. But Trump is setting all of that on fire.

But I guess if your entire set of values is "fuck those guys" then Trump is indeed your president. Nobody does "fuck those guys" like he does.

I think the current right-wing believes in Federalism in the same way the mid-19th century Confederates did.  "Federalism for me, but not for thee".

Crazy_Ivan80

amazing that everyone folds faster than a house of cards

crazy canuck

Watching, Bondi's testimony is beyond painful.
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grumbler

Quote from: HVC on February 11, 2026, 01:43:25 PMIt boggles my mind that he's still at 37

It helps that there are no recent Gallop polls.  Other, more recent polls, have him as low as 31 (which I think is bedrock for him).
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HVC

Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2026, 07:13:55 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 11, 2026, 01:43:25 PMIt boggles my mind that he's still at 37

It helps that there are no recent Gallop polls.  Other, more recent polls, have him as low as 31 (which I think is bedrock for him).

Fair enough, but still so high. Cursory look has Nixon at 24% at his lowest. And Trump is so much worse.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 11, 2026, 04:57:46 PMWatching, Bondi's testimony is beyond painful.

If it were a Democrat-controlled congress (and assuming it had some balls)...I'd have pushed most of them, especially Bessent and probably Bondi, with charges of Contempt of Congress just for their attitudes/insults.

And not a flippant/performative contempt either...give some gumption to the Sergeant of Arms of the House and put them under arrest. 

Valmy

Quote from: HVC on February 11, 2026, 07:37:49 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2026, 07:13:55 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 11, 2026, 01:43:25 PMIt boggles my mind that he's still at 37

It helps that there are no recent Gallop polls.  Other, more recent polls, have him as low as 31 (which I think is bedrock for him).

Fair enough, but still so high. Cursory look has Nixon at 24% at his lowest. And Trump is so much worse.

That was before the Republican propaganda machine which gives them a higher floor...but it also silos their base away meaning they cannot win like in 1972 or 1984 anymore.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: HVC on February 11, 2026, 07:37:49 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2026, 07:13:55 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 11, 2026, 01:43:25 PMIt boggles my mind that he's still at 37

It helps that there are no recent Gallop polls.  Other, more recent polls, have him as low as 31 (which I think is bedrock for him).

Fair enough, but still so high. Cursory look has Nixon at 24% at his lowest. And Trump is so much worse.
No argument that Trump is worse than Nixon, but 2026 voters are far worse than 1973 voters. We live in a post-truth society where people are convinced that they are right no matter how wrong the world tells them they are.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Valmy

The government shut down the airspace around El Paso and announced we were being attacked by drug cartel drones due to a...party balloon. No word if the other 98 luftballons were involved.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Trump lose tariff vote in House

19 Republicans defected to vote with Dems against the tariffs on Canada.  According to Mike Johnson, Trump understand the situation and is not upset since he can veto this.

Moments later, he took to Truth Social to threaten these Republicans of terrible consequence if they defied him, but he's not upset.  :lol:
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Tonitrus on February 11, 2026, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 11, 2026, 04:57:46 PMWatching, Bondi's testimony is beyond painful.

If it were a Democrat-controlled congress (and assuming it had some balls)...I'd have pushed most of them, especially Bessent and probably Bondi, with charges of Contempt of Congress just for their attitudes/insults.

And not a flippant/performative contempt either...give some gumption to the Sergeant of Arms of the House and put them under arrest. 

Yeah, the chair just kept saying that the witness can answer the way she sees fit.

No, that's not actually how it works. The witness actually has to answer the questions and can't insult the person asking the questions.  Today was perhaps the clearest indication of the collapse of the American system of government.
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