Today's "Let's See How We Can Fuck Over the American Worker" Thread

Started by CountDeMoney, June 30, 2013, 05:39:09 PM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: merithyn on July 03, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
Saying it in an interview, however, is just plain stupid. Hiring the guy after he does so? Yeah, more ignorant yet.

Nah, definitely dumber to say it. High risk, little chance of reward. The interviewer, OTOH, can make a decision based on quite a number of other factors. I don't think the slightly higher chance of a harassment suit that will end up being settled for less than the guy makes in a year is a good reason to simply rule him out.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

merithyn

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 03, 2013, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: merithyn on July 03, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
Saying it in an interview, however, is just plain stupid. Hiring the guy after he does so? Yeah, more ignorant yet.

Nah, definitely dumber to say it. High risk, little chance of reward. The interviewer, OTOH, can make a decision based on quite a number of other factors. I don't think the slightly higher chance of a harassment suit that will end up being settled for less than the guy makes in a year is a good reason to simply rule him out.

I'm going more with poor impulse control, lack of good judgment, and no decorum.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

dps

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 03, 2013, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: merithyn on July 03, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
Saying it in an interview, however, is just plain stupid. Hiring the guy after he does so? Yeah, more ignorant yet.

Nah, definitely dumber to say it. High risk, little chance of reward. The interviewer, OTOH, can make a decision based on quite a number of other factors. I don't think the slightly higher chance of a harassment suit that will end up being settled for less than the guy makes in a year is a good reason to simply rule him out.

Making hiring decisions involves balancing a lot of factors.  You never have a perfect candidate (when a candidate seems perfect or nearly so you wonder what you're missing) and there is always some risk.  Basically, though, you have to ask yourself a series of questions about the applicant: 

1)  Does the applicant have the skills needed to do the job?

2)  Does the applicant's track record indicate that he or she is likely to be reliable?

3)  Does anything about the applicant raise heightened concerns about security/employee theft risk?

4)  Does the applicant seem likely to be able to work with the current staff?

Saying "cunt" in the interview would have raised a red flag with regards to the 4th question and possibly the 1st if the position required dealing with the public on a regular basis.  It wouldn't have been an automatic disqualifier, but it would have come awfully close.

Eddie Teach

He's interviewing for a highly skilled IT post, that's to be expected. :nerd:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

KRonn

You must be a redneck when you bring a beer to a job interview.    :D

CountDeMoney

Quote from: dps on July 03, 2013, 12:52:24 PM
Saying "cunt" in the interview would have raised a red flag with regards to the 4th question and possibly the 1st if the position required dealing with the public on a regular basis.  It wouldn't have been an automatic disqualifier, but it would have come awfully close.

It would've been for me.  If you don't have the common courtesy--let alone common sense--not to use profane language in a job interview, you obviously don't possess the interpersonal skills to succeed in the work environment that I am responsible for maintaining. Obviously he wouldn't be able to deal with coworkers, let alone the public.

Besides, it would violate established corporate policies on respect, diversity, et cetera, which are a condition of employment. 

Figured that would be a slam dunk, but Cal dumpster dives for lunch anyway, so I don't expect anything less from him.

Admiral Yi

 :lol: If Cal hadn't hired the guy you would have said he was worse than Hitler.


CountDeMoney

Nah.  It's obvious the guy has personal issues he needs to work out at home before he could bring them to work.

Neil

Quote from: merithyn on July 03, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
I'm assuming you guys are waiting on me to freak out over the use of the word "cunt". Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. I don't really care. It's just a word. Not a very nice word, culturally speaking, but still just a word.

Saying it in an interview, however, is just plain stupid. Hiring the guy after he does so? Yeah, more ignorant yet.
I was hoping for a little anger over the idea of hiring a man who said bad things about women.  Or, if I was really lucky, just hiring a man when there were unemployed women out there.  You're the closest thing to a gender warrior we have, other than the occasional member of the seduction community.  And then I suppose there's CdM, whose experiences with women have crushed his spirit like so much riff-raff at Tienanmen Square.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Jacob

Yeah, I'd never hire someone who used language like that in an interview. Fuck that.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2013, 01:30:31 PM
And then I suppose there's CdM, whose experiences with women have crushed his spirit like so much riff-raff at Tienanmen Square.

Nah, I'm just the guy that's had to deal with gender-related workplace violence.  But hey, punch away.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Jacob on July 03, 2013, 01:34:33 PM
Yeah, I'd never hire someone who used language like that in an interview. Fuck that.

Obviously you've had negative experiences with women then.

Neil

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 03, 2013, 01:35:54 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2013, 01:30:31 PM
And then I suppose there's CdM, whose experiences with women have crushed his spirit like so much riff-raff at Tienanmen Square.
Nah, I'm just the guy that's had to deal with gender-related workplace violence.  But hey, punch away.
Yeah?  You just couldn't help yourself and started beating up your female co-workers?  Crazy.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

CountDeMoney


merithyn

Quote from: Neil on July 03, 2013, 01:30:31 PM
I was hoping for a little anger over the idea of hiring a man who said bad things about women.  Or, if I was really lucky, just hiring a man when there were unemployed women out there.  You're the closest thing to a gender warrior we have, other than the occasional member of the seduction community.  And then I suppose there's CdM, whose experiences with women have crushed his spirit like so much riff-raff at Tienanmen Square.

I fail. :(
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...