NBA Thread

[garbon]

Was NC not already ruined?

[Valmy]

Was NC not already ruined?

I am going to be there in a few days. I will let you know

I will not use the bathroom in protest.

[jimmy olsen]

Westbrook averaging a triple double 19 games in. Only Oscar Robertson has done better.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18160983/russell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-averaging-triple-double

[jimmy olsen]

22 games in, 11 triple doubles, averaging 31.0 points, 10.8 rebounds, 11.3 assists per game.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/westbrooks-triple-double-leads-thunder-past-hawks-102-031240053--nba.html

[sbr]

Craig Sager has lost his battle with cancer at 65.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/longtime-nba-broadcaster-craig-sager-dies-at-65-after-battle-with-cancer-202559560.html

[jimmy olsen]

I like Crowder, but come on, the Celtics would be stupid not to make this trade.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/2/22/14697060/jimmy-butler-trade-rumors-celtics-jae-crowder

Jimmy Butler trade to Celtics hinges on Jae Crowder, according to report

Crowder — and not the Nets' picks — is the sticking point in the deal, according to one report.

by Kristian Winfield@Krisplashed   Feb 22, 2017, 10:26am EST

The Boston Celtics and Chicago Bulls are hung up on a potential trade for All-Star swingman Jimmy Butler, according to NBA.com's David Aldridge. The snag in the deal stems not from the draft picks, but from Boston's unwillingness to move starting forward Jae Crowder, Aldridge reports.

"I think, the main sticking point there is that (Ainge) just does not want to give up Jae Crowder in a deal, and that's the guy that Chicago's insisting on right now in any package for Jimmy Butler," Aldridge said on NBA TV. "Chicago, I think rightly, are saying 'You want our best player, we're not just going to do it for picks. We're not just going to take guys that you're not gonna keep on your roster. we want a guy that's going to be able to grow with us along with high picks."

The Bulls want a valuable rotation player along with high draft picks in any trade package for their All-Star swingman, and Celtics general manager Danny Ainge has been unwilling to part with Crowder, who is a core piece to their successful season to date.

It was long believed the Bulls' desire to trade Butler hinged on Boston's willingness to move the Brooklyn Nets' first-round pick in the upcoming draft. But Aldridge said he believes "the picks will work themselves out."

Boston holds a host of first-round picks in upcoming drafts, including Brooklyn's 2018 first-round selection outright, Memphis' first-round pick in 2019, and each of their own first-rounders after this year's draft.

Most importantly, Boston can swap first-round picks this year with the Nets (9-47), who are on pace to have the highest odds at landing the top pick in 2017's deep draft.

But a high draft pick and young, unproven prospects, according to Aldridge, isn't enough for Chicago to part ways with their two-way wing.

Why it makes sense for the Celtics to hold the line

Crowder is averaging 13.8 points and 5.2 rebounds per game and has significantly improved his shot from distance, hitting the three-pointer at a 41 percent clip. Moreover, he is Boston's most physical defender at the forward position, something the team values for its potential playoff battles against LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

A midseason trade for a core piece like Crowder could disrupt a Celtics' chemistry that has landed them at the East's second seed behind just Cleveland.

Boston's All-Star guard Isaiah Thomas said he's ready to go to war with the team's current roster makeup.

"Danny would like to go in the playoffs with Smart, Bradley (and) Crowder defensively, along with Butler, (Al Horford and Isaiah Thomas) offensively," Aldridge said. "He feels like that's the only way they're ever able to compete with Cleveland."

Why it makes sense for the Bulls to push for Crowder

Chicago has attempted to move Butler several times in the past, including twice over the summer. The 27-year-old forward is averaging a career-best 24.5 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 5.0 assists per game. Butler was also named an All-Star starter this season for the first time in his career.

The Bulls, however, have declined to name him their franchise player and the organization has been split on whether to build around Butler or trade him to facilitate a rebuild.

Crowder is also on one of the NBA's most friendly contracts after signing a five-year, $35 million deal in 2013. He will earn a total of $22 million through the 2019-20 season.

Chicago would likely receive one of either Amir Johnson or Tyler Zeller's expiring contracts, as well as one of either Smart or Brown in return for Butler. Add a high draft pick, and the return is ideal, given Crowder's inclusion in the trade.

Probability a deal gets done

The Bulls want to move Butler and the Celtics are interested in acquiring him. The stars are aligned for a deal to get done. For that reason, there's a 50 percent chance a trade goes down by the Feb. 23 trade deadline.

Ainge won't pull the trigger on a trade, though, if he doesn't feel it makes the team better. And while acquiring an All-Star player has its benefits, it could inhibit the Celtics' future flexibility while costing them the valuable Brooklyn pick.

Regardless, the two sides want to get something done. And if Chicago truly wants to move on from the Butler era before the end of the season, they'll find a suitor, Boston or not.

Probability: 5/10

[jimmy olsen]

Ugh...so disappointed.

The Cavs are vulnerable this year due to injuries and the Celtics can't use all those assets to load up and take a shot at them? Ainge should be shot into the sun.

[derspiess]

Shut up, Meg.

[jimmy olsen]

Jaylen Brown has really improved with the increase in playing time due to Bradley's injury. Looks like he has a lot of potential.

[jimmy olsen]

Just watched last night's Celtics game. Nice win, but holy shit Devin Booker looked like a hall of famer! Dropped 70 on the Celtics! Most by an opponent ever. Wow.

[jimmy olsen]

He's done it!

Russel Westbrook has broken Oscar Robertson's mark for triple doubles in a season!  

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19120414/oklahoma-city-thunder-russell-westbrook-sets-nba-record-42nd-triple-double-season

DENVER -- Oklahoma City Thunder star Russell Westbrook has racked up more triple-doubles in a season than anyone in NBA history, breaking a record Oscar Robertson held for 55 years.

Westbrook set the record in spectacular fashion, finishing with 50 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists. His 40-footer at the buzzer sealed the Thunder's 106-105 victory and eliminated the Denver Nuggets from the playoffs.

...

[Admiral Yi]

Some 20 year old kid just dropped 70 on the Celtics.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Some 20 year old kid just dropped 70 on the Celtics.

That was last month.

[Admiral Yi]

Ah.

Wonder why Sports Center was showing that tonight.

[jimmy olsen]

Ah.

Wonder why Sports Center was showing that tonight.

Probably part of a season wrap up since the playoffs begin tonight.

As for the Celtics, Isiah Thomas younger sister was just killed in a car crash at the age of 22.