The future George Zimmerman Acquittal Trial Megathread!

Started by CountDeMoney, June 20, 2013, 06:21:57 PM

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Quote from: fhdz on July 19, 2013, 01:19:13 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 19, 2013, 12:48:46 PM
One of my co-workers visited a gun store a few days ago.  He said that while he was there they were doing a brisk business selling to African-Americans.  So at least some good came from all this.   :)

Look for the usual gun-rights advocates to remain very, very silent about this. :lol:

Why?
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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Ed Anger

I would too, but I don't think George needs a gun. He's a bit of a loose cannon.
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Rasputin

the flip side of the pancake:

QuoteHow a Miami School Crime Cover-Up Policy Led to Trayvon Martin's Death
By Robert Stacy McCain on 7.15.13 @ 1:05AM

The February 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martion might never have happened if school officials in Miami-Dade County had not instituted an unofficial policy of treating crimes as school disciplinary infractions. Revelations that emerged from an internal affairs investigation explain why Martin was not arrested when caught at school with stolen jewelry in October 2011 or with marijuana in February 2012. Instead, the teenager was suspended from school, the last time just days before he was shot dead by George Zimmerman.

Trayvon Martin was not from Sanford, the town north of Orlando where he was shot in 2012 and where a jury acquitted Zimmerman of murder charges Saturday. Martin was from Miami Gardens, more than 200 miles away, and had come to Sanford to stay with his father's girlfriend Brandy Green at her home in the townhouse community where Zimmerman was in charge of the neighborhood watch. Trayvon was staying with Green after he had been suspended for the second time in six months from Krop High School in Miami-Dade County, where both his father, Tracy Martin, and mother, Sybrina Fulton, lived.

Both of Trayvon's suspensions during his junior year at Krop High involved crimes that could have led to his prosecution as a juvenile offender. However, Chief Charles Hurley of the Miami-Dade School Police Department (MDSPD) in 2010 had implemented a policy that reduced the number of criiminal reports, manipulating statistics to create the appearance of a reduction in crime within the school system. Less than two weeks before Martin's death, the school system commended Chief Hurley for "decreasing school-related juvenile delinquency by an impressive 60 percent for the last six months of 2011." What was actually happening was that crimes were not being reported as crimes, but instead treated as disciplinary infractions.

In October 2011, after a video surveillance camera caught Martin writing graffiti on a door, MDSPD Office Darryl Dunn searched Martin's backpack, looking for the marker he had used. Officer Dunn found 12 pieces of women's jewelry and a man's watch, along with a flathead screwdriver the officer described as a "burglary tool." The jewelry and watch, which Martin claimed he had gotten from a friend he refused to name, matched a description of items stolen during the October 2011 burglary of a house on 204th Terrace, about a half-mile from the school. However, because of Chief Hurley's policy "to lower the arrest rates," as one MDSPD sergeant said in an internal investigation, the stolen jewerly was instead listed as "found property" and was never reported to Miami-Dade Police who were investigating the burglary. Similarly, in February 2012 when an MDSPD officer caught Martin with a small plastic bag containing marijuana residue, as well as a marijuana pipe, this was not treated as a crime, and instead Martin was suspended from school.

Either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system. However, because of Chief Hurley's attempt to reduce the school crime statistics — according to sworn testimony, officers were "basically told to lie and falsify" reports — Martin was never arrested. And if he had been arrested, he might never have been in Sanford the night of his fatal encounter with Zimmerman.

In fact, the reason Zimmerman was patrolling the townhouse community the night of the February 2012 shooting was that there had been a rash of burglaries in the neighborhood, although there was no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any of those crimes.

As for Chief Hurley's policy, it was the controversy over Martin's death that accidentally exposed it. In March 2012, the Miami Herald reported on Martin's troubled history of disciplinary incidents at Krop High. Chief Hurley then launched the internal affairs investigation in an attempt to find out who had provided information to the reporter. During the course of that investigation, MDSPD officers and supervisors described Chief Hurley's policy of not reporting crimes by students. Chief Hurley was subsequently accused of sexually harassing two female subordinates. He resigned in February, about a year after Trayvon Martin's death.
Who is John Galt?

CountDeMoney

Yes, counselor, I think we have all come to the realization that Trayvon had it coming.

Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 08:11:17 AM
Yes, counselor, I think we have all come to the realization that Trayvon had it coming.

Zimmerman, on the other hand, was a perfect boyscout.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on July 22, 2013, 08:17:13 AM
Zimmerman, on the other hand, was a perfect boyscout.

Of course he was: because in Florida, an arrest for assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest in a bar fight, a court-ordered alcohol treatment program, and a restraining order by an ex-wife are listed on the concealed carry application under "Qualifications".

DGuller

Quote from: Rasputin on July 22, 2013, 08:04:08 AM
QuoteHow a Miami School Crime Cover-Up Policy Led to Trayvon Martin's Death
By Robert Stacy McCain on 7.15.13 @ 1:05AM
I really love logic like that.  For all we know, the policy of equipping every car with anti-lock brakes led to Trayvon Martin's death.  After all, for all we know, he could've spent that fateful night in intensive care, recovering from getting hit by a car while jaywalking.

Rasputin

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 08:11:17 AM
Yes, counselor, I think we have all come to the realization that Trayvon had it coming.
:D

nope but the evidence suggests that zimmerman likely didnt shoot Martin for being black or carrying skittles and yet you persist with that rhetoric
Who is John Galt?

Caliga

0 Ed Anger Disapproval Points

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Rasputin on July 22, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 08:11:17 AM
Yes, counselor, I think we have all come to the realization that Trayvon had it coming.
:D

nope but the evidence suggests that zimmerman likely didnt shoot Martin for being black or carrying skittles and yet you persist with that rhetoric

Yeah, yeah, yeah, all niggers deserve to die, film at 11.

Razgovory

Oooh, and article from the American Spectator!  Maybe they should throw something in about how Bill Clinton threw children on train tracks to cover up his drug dealing.
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Rasputin

#899
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 09:25:59 AM
Quote from: Rasputin on July 22, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 22, 2013, 08:11:17 AM
Yes, counselor, I think we have all come to the realization that Trayvon had it coming.
:D

nope but the evidence suggests that zimmerman likely didnt shoot Martin for being black or carrying skittles and yet you persist with that rhetoric

Yeah, yeah, yeah, all niggers deserve to die, film at 11.

You have put your fingers on the very core of the difference between us. You are a racist and I am not. This case has never had anything to do with race, and those who inject race into the issue do so to press an agenda regardless of the evidence in this case. Had Martin been white and engaged in the same conduct the result would be the same except we'd have never heard about the case because the media couldn't sensationalize it. This case was about an armed and frustrated cop wannabbe with some minor self appointed authority on the hunt for those involved in a string of robberies in his neighborhood.
Who is John Galt?