Women as Army Rangers and Navy Seals by 2016

Started by jimmy olsen, June 18, 2013, 01:28:27 AM

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grumbler

Quote from: merithyn on June 21, 2013, 09:47:35 PM
Proof that grumbler can actually argue with himself.

We didn't need proof of that.  But this is proof that I can, indeed, argue.  Unlike you, I don't have to make up positions for my opponents in order to win; I just argue against what they actually say.

But that requires reading, analytic, and writing skills.  I'd grant you one of three; you generally can write.  You spend a lot of time apologizing for "saying it poorly," but we all know that's just a weasel for "I want to pretend I didn't mean what I said, 'cause that was really stupid, now that I think about it."
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merithyn

Quote from: grumbler on June 22, 2013, 08:30:21 AM
Quote from: merithyn on June 21, 2013, 09:47:35 PM
Proof that grumbler can actually argue with himself.

We didn't need proof of that.  But this is proof that I can, indeed, argue.  Unlike you, I don't have to make up positions for my opponents in order to win; I just argue against what they actually say.

But that requires reading, analytic, and writing skills.  I'd grant you one of three; you generally can write.  You spend a lot of time apologizing for "saying it poorly," but we all know that's just a weasel for "I want to pretend I didn't mean what I said, 'cause that was really stupid, now that I think about it."

Just curious, grumbler. What exactly do you think I'm arguing for in this thread?
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Are you arguing for anything in particular?
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merithyn

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 22, 2013, 10:03:52 AM
Are you arguing for anything in particular?

Only that the standards be job-specific rather than gender-specific, and that anyone be allowed to try to meet those standards.
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garbon

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 22, 2013, 10:18:23 AM
That doesn't sound very controversial.

Clearly it is though. A post about how women would be allowed to try out for SF ran quickly to how we will be weakening SF units and lowering standards for the publicity to get women in.
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Quote from: Legbiter on June 21, 2013, 10:28:38 PM
Er, SF standards tend to exclude, like, 99% of men.

I take it you did not bother to read the thread?
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Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2013, 11:44:20 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on June 21, 2013, 10:28:38 PM
Er, SF standards tend to exclude, like, 99% of men.

I take it you did not bother to read the thread?

It's Legbiter. You know he didn't, anymore than grumbler did.
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I met a man who wasn't there
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I wish, I wish he'd go away...

merithyn

I'm sorry, but there's no freaking way this woman is actually real military. Look at those nails. She wouldn't even be able to type of a requisition, much less do anything else.  :rolleyes:

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I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Eddie Teach

There are jobs she could do. Like looking pretty for photojournalists.
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PDH

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was arguing that female soldiers with nice jub-jubs should be assigned to my unit.
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