China to build 40 billion dollar Nicaraguan canal

Started by jimmy olsen, June 13, 2013, 11:09:04 PM

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#45
June 14, 2013, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 14, 2013, 07:12:04 PM
I was going to phrase it in a way that I think would have been marginally more humorous.  Specifically, I was going to write this:

The main reason this won't ever happen is because "A man!  A plan!  A canal!  NICARAGUA!" just doesn't work. :(

It still SOUNDS pretty cool.
and the horse you rode in on

jimmy olsen

#46
June 14, 2013, 07:58:43 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 14, 2013, 07:26:10 AM
Quote from: Viking on June 14, 2013, 06:08:14 AM
This does make sense for china from china's point of view. The Chinese Communist party lives in a world where politics and diplomacy trumps commerce and contracts. They believe that in a trade war with the US american puppets in panama city will close the canal to chinese commerce. In their mind they need an alternative canal in a country run by either chinese puppets or irrational anti-americans.

This is a source of conflict in the sense that china will now defend the sandinistas diplomatically, like they do the Sudan government.
I agree with this.  The object of the canal isn't to make money.  Hell, the canal may never even be built.  The objective here is to demonstrate to the people of central and south America that China takes its interests (political, economic, etc) there seriously.

The idea that the first trans-isthmus canal was built at Panama rather than Nicaragua because of some fluke volcanic eruption or whatever  is bogus.  All of the planning for 20 years before the canal was built compared the two locations, and both long-term studies (before the French effort, and again before the American efforts) ended up concluding that the Nicaraguan route was not economically feasible, despite the lesser elevations that needed to be overcome.

I don't think this canal will ever be built.
Well, it's been more than 100 years. Surely technological advances in the science of engineering have it a more viable endeavor.
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#48
June 14, 2013, 08:12:59 PM
Maybe they won't be happy until they have one of everything we have.

One aircraft carrier, one moon landing, one Panama canal...

grumbler

#49
June 15, 2013, 03:19:45 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 14, 2013, 07:58:43 PM
Well, it's been more than 100 years. Surely technological advances in the science of engineering have it a more viable endeavor.

Unfortunately for this reasoning, the last century has also brought about another canal.  The economic viability of a second canal is going to be less than that of the first.
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Siege

#50
June 16, 2013, 10:38:11 AM
Whoa, I like the idea of giant zeppelin cargo balloons.

That could work.



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"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

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#51
June 16, 2013, 10:40:22 AM


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

Razgovory

#52
June 16, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
Siege.  Don't get information from the enemy.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Siege

#53
June 16, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
Shit, I didn't realize that was a russian website.
I blame it on google.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

Razgovory

#54
June 16, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
That's why I'm here.  To guide you, my son. :)
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Viking

#55
June 16, 2013, 01:39:00 PM
BTW siegy...

1. in your sig, why don't you link to the source of the quote. The Joseph Feinnes Luther movie was quite good.
2. why do you quote an anti-semite in a sig otherwise devoted to Israel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism
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#56
June 16, 2013, 01:59:28 PM
Quote from: Viking on June 16, 2013, 01:39:00 PM
BTW siegy...

1. in your sig, why don't you link to the source of the quote. The Joseph Feinnes Luther movie was quite good.
2. why do you quote an anti-semite in a sig otherwise devoted to Israel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism

Why are you acting like a douche?

Siege

#57
June 16, 2013, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: Viking on June 16, 2013, 01:39:00 PM
BTW siegy...

1. in your sig, why don't you link to the source of the quote. The Joseph Feinnes Luther movie was quite good.
2. why do you quote an anti-semite in a sig otherwise devoted to Israel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism

Really?
I was quoting Cayleb II Ahrmahk, King of Charis.
I didn't know the original quote was from Martin Luther King.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"

katmai

#58
June 16, 2013, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 16, 2013, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: Viking on June 16, 2013, 01:39:00 PM
BTW siegy...

1. in your sig, why don't you link to the source of the quote. The Joseph Feinnes Luther movie was quite good.
2. why do you quote an anti-semite in a sig otherwise devoted to Israel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism

Really?
I was quoting Cayleb II Ahrmahk, King of Charis.
I didn't know the original quote was from Martin Luther King.

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grumbler

#59
June 16, 2013, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 16, 2013, 04:16:04 PM
Really?
I was quoting Cayleb II Ahrmahk, King of Charis.
I didn't know the original quote was from Martin Luther King.

I was wondering how you got Luther's words jumbled up like that.
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