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#41

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 08:17:54 AM

Ok but if they got their shit together? I was just curious if Islam was really the problem to the extent that European states from traditionally Muslim Europeans would be a red line.

But I understand there are other reasons why Kosovo, Albania, and Bosnia are problematic for reasons that have nothing to do with religion

Albania is nominally majority muslim, thanks to the "great" Enver Hoxha but the biggest problem there is corruption and organised crime. Tito was more lenient to religions, as long as they obeyed, so Kosovo is different in this aspect.

Getting their shit together is quite a big if anyways, specially for Bosnia-Herzegovina which seems almost designed to be ungovernable. Muslims are only a plurality there, not a majority, but got more religious thanks to the war though imported fundies were and are still looked with suspicion.

#42

Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread

Last post by HVC - Today at 07:50:51 AM

Only saw the first two episodes, and after the first he didn't really mention the inheritance tax stuff.

What left wing stuff has he shown the right wing masses? I guess he's not a climate change denier, that's a plus

#43

Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread

Last post by Josquius - Today at 07:43:38 AM

Yes. It's good. He does a nice job in showing the importance of very left wing things to his core right wing audience.

Though I am skeptical of this series. He has been part of the silly reaction to asking wealthy farmers to pay a little inheritance tax.

[Trump abruptly ends NBC interview after clash over 'rigged election' claim]

#44

Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...

Last post by Syt - Today at 06:56:40 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8k1xx6yzjo

Trump abruptly ends NBC interview after clash over 'rigged election' claim

US President Donald Trump abruptly walked out of an interview with NBC after being repeatedly challenged on several claims by the show's presenter Kristen Welker.

During the interview, which aired on Sunday's Meet The Press, the president claimed both the current primary elections in California and the 2020 presidential election were "rigged".

When pressed for evidence on California's vote by Welker, he said: "All I have to do is look, and I listen."

After the presenter replied "that's not evidence", Trump accused the media of being "crooked", before ending the interview: "Sorry, let's call it quits because I've had enough."

The president has had a fraught relationship with traditional media outlets, often accusing them of bias against him.

The interview, set in a barn as Trump appeared at an event with farmers in Wisconsin, was delayed repeatedly due to technical difficulties and rain hitting the metal roof. NBC reported that he walked out 50 minutes after sitting down for it on Friday.

Much of the interview involved Welker questioning Trump over the conflict with Iran, with him insisting the US needed to act to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon and that it would not be "an endless war".

"We're there for a few months and the threat is largely over," he said.

Around six minutes before he left the set, the pair discussed the "anti-weaponisation" fund, a now-dropped plan to create a $1.8bn (£1.3bn) fund to compensate individuals who claim they were unfairly targeted or investigated by the government.

The plan drew strong criticism from Democrats and some Republicans, who argued it could result in payments to people prosecuted over the US Capitol riot on 6 January 2021.

The pair then moved onto discussing that riot, and Trump was challenged after he repeated his unsubstantiated claim that the 2020 election was rigged.

Trump turned to the California primary elections, where votes are still being counted to determine which two candidates in a series of races - including governor of the state - will be on the ballot in November's midterm elections.

He said the results had not been called after four days, adding: "They're cheating on the election."

"Do you have evidence to support that?" Welker responded.

"All I have to do is look, and I listen," the president replied.

"But that's not evidence," she interjected.

Full results have not yet been called in the state where delays are common due to a particularly meticulous vote-counting process and broad use of mail-in ballots. Mail-in voting has long irked the president.

"They're crooked," he continued, "just like you're crooked."

Welker said: "To be fair, I'm not crooked. But let's continue."

Trump then told Welker "you're either crooked or you're stupid", and after a further exchange said: "Let's call it quits because I've had enough. Thank you darling, have a good time."

Welker attempted to continue the interview, but Trump interrupted: "I've sat in the rain with you for an hour, on and off in the rain, and I've given you enough time.

"You ought to straighten out your press, because you know what? A country can never be great with a dishonest press."

He then gestured to people behind the camera, saying "come on, let's go", before standing up and walking off the set.

After the interview was broadcast, Welker said: "I spoke with President Trump on Saturday and we both acknowledged the complications during the interview posed by the rain. He agreed to sit down with me for another Meet the Press interview."

The BBC has approached the White House for comment.

#45

Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread

Last post by Maladict - Today at 06:45:11 AM

Apparently all tickets for Iranian supporters have been withdrawn. What a dick move

#46

Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread

Last post by HVC - Today at 06:36:47 AM

clarkson farm Is back

Funny, he annoyed me on top gear (what little I watched ) but I do enjoy his farm show.

#47

Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread

Last post by Syt - Today at 06:07:36 AM

Should be interesting if Israel qualifies for the Saudi-Arabia World Cup in 2034.

#48

Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread

Last post by Josquius - Today at 05:59:16 AM

The US obstructs and blocks players, staff and officials from Muslim countries - nothing to see here.

2023. Indonesia blocks the Israeli team from entering for the under 20s World Cup - no World Cup for you Jakarta.

#49

Off the Record / Re: The EU thread

Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 02:58:33 AM

FCAS is dead apparently? France and Germany couldn't come to an agreement...

#50

Off the Record / Re: What are your earliest Wor...

Last post by Syt - Today at 01:24:12 AM

I mostly associate France 98 with Germany losing to Croatia in the QF, and the absolutely appaling behavior of German hooligans in Lens, nearly killing a French policeman.

(Also for the FIFA game which let you play historical World Cup matches with original line ups.)