Recent posts

#31

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Razgovory - November 21, 2025, 03:19:12 PM

A bunch already have.  Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Margery Taylor Greene.  Half of them think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. The tide is turning.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1-5558286/israel-republicans-antisemitism-carlson

46% of Republicans sympathize more with Israelis than Palestinians.  So less than half.  And Republicans, for the most part, don't like Arab Muslims at all...

I don't know who Candace Owens is.  Tucker Carlson and MTG I would not slot in the Christian right.

Margery Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson are a Christian nationalists.  Candace Owens is a popular podcaster that worked for the Daily Wire I think, but got fired over the Gaza war.  Very popular.

It's not 2004 anymore, the right is turning on Israel.

#32

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Admiral Yi - November 21, 2025, 02:57:34 PM

A bunch already have.  Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Margery Taylor Greene.  Half of them think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. The tide is turning.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1-5558286/israel-republicans-antisemitism-carlson

46% of Republicans sympathize more with Israelis than Palestinians.  So less than half.  And Republicans, for the most part, don't like Arab Muslims at all...

I don't know who Candace Owens is.  Tucker Carlson and MTG I would not slot in the Christian right.

#33

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Razgovory - November 21, 2025, 02:46:00 PM

The Christian right will never give up Israel.  Trumpies have already given up the free market.  Fuentes is a clown.

A bunch already have.  Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Margery Taylor Greene.  Half of them think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. The tide is turning.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1-5558286/israel-republicans-antisemitism-carlson

46% of Republicans sympathize more with Israelis than Palestinians.  So less than half.  And Republicans, for the most part, don't like Arab Muslims at all...

#34

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Razgovory - November 21, 2025, 02:36:36 PM

You don't think the all those protests across the world hold any water?  What are they doing if not trying to stop a genocide?  I don't understand.

#35

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Admiral Yi - November 21, 2025, 02:32:15 PM

The Christian right will never give up Israel.  Trumpies have already given up the free market.  Fuentes is a clown.

#36

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Valmy - November 21, 2025, 02:23:21 PM

If you believe there is a genocide then the most important thing is to stop it.  It wouldn't matter who you have to align with to do it.  And really, is Fuentes any worse than the Palestinian resistance?  They say and want pretty much the same thing.

Well good for fucking them.

And just stopping support for Israel wouldn't stop shit, so the whole idea of "OH NOS WE MUST STOP GENOCIDE" doesn't hold water. The Palestinians and their allies are toothless non-entities, Israel doesn't need us to do whatever shit they want to do. But whatever good would be gained from not sending billions to a criminal regime run by a psycho like Netanyahu would be bitter if it resulted in any compromise with Fuentes and his gang.

#37

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Razgovory - November 21, 2025, 02:14:34 PM

If you believe there is a genocide then the most important thing is to stop it.  It wouldn't matter who you have to align with to do it.  And really, is Fuentes any worse than the Palestinian resistance?  They say and want pretty much the same thing.

#38

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Valmy - November 21, 2025, 01:56:09 PM

Yeah let's not ally with Nick fucking Fuentes.

#39

Off the Record / Re: Quo Vadis GOP?

Last post by Razgovory - November 21, 2025, 01:52:36 PM

Welcome to the future...

#40

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by Tamas - November 21, 2025, 01:26:15 PM

From Putin on Trump's 28 point surrender plan:

I believe that it, too, can form the basis of final peace settlement

He is not even making it a secret that he will not stop at it even if Ukraine agrees.