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#31
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Zoupa - Today at 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 03:57:21 PMSounds like justification. Here's what I think: you're not as awesome as you think you are. You're not as rational, smart and logical. You're just another dipshit, like the rest of us.

Fascinating.  I'd love to hear how you came to those conclusions.

Evidence. You insulted me on several occasions and have lied repeatedly. Yet you're very generous in finding justifications for yourself in order to keep thinking you're in the superior category of poster you made up in your mind. All in all it's a little sad my dude.
#32
Off the Record / Re: Gen X suck
Last post by Jacob - Today at 04:19:24 PM
Generational warfare is just a distraction from the real issue, which is that the oligarchs have been waging class warfare and are winning.
#33
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Josquius - Today at 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on Today at 02:50:08 PMThe BBC in shambles?

It's bizzaro world stuff. The BBC getting in trouble for not being right wing enough.

But it makes political sense to just accept the orange baby's whines and change the management. Hopefully the new person is careful but shifts the bbc back towards the centre and actual balance.
#34
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Josquius - Today at 04:12:15 PM
I wonder if it's the shrinking of the board.
We are getting cabin fever.

Over the years we've lost people but it seems to have reached new highs in recent years.

This is leading to a lot more of this kind of arguing over arguing.
It used to be someone gets called a dick or whatever and that's it. I can only recall some incidents getting really extreme that pushed things to this stage and beyond.

But lately yes. Lots of people losing their cool and exploding about stuff. Including myself with one person being a massive cock.

I dunno.
It's sad. Maybe it means we care about this place and don't want it to dwindle even more which sadly leads to behaviours that make it more likely?

I do hope languish continues on. It's been a omnipressnt for probably over half of my life now. Other places just haven't had the staying power and with mass social medias toxic turn this past decade I have disengaged with it ever more.

Should this meta stuff be shunted elsewhere so we can get back to commenting on society at large circling the drain? - hey... Is there a connection there....
#35
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 04:08:43 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 04:02:08 PMYet when I pointed out that NATO behavior is rational from a cost-benefit perspective, your objection was based on fairness.

Game theory teaches individually rational choices can lead to societally suboptimal outcomes.
#36
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 03:57:21 PMSounds like justification. Here's what I think: you're not as awesome as you think you are. You're not as rational, smart and logical. You're just another dipshit, like the rest of us.

Fascinating.  I'd love to hear how you came to those conclusions.
#37
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:06:59 AMWe constitute two broad camps guided by two different moral codes.  The camp I identify with i call the rationalists.  We believe in cost/benefit analyses, weighing of conflicting principles, and civil discourse as a means of resolving differences, and the primacy of reason, logic, facts and evidence as instruments in that discourse.

Yet when I pointed out that NATO behavior is rational from a cost-benefit perspective, your objection was based on fairness.
#38
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Zoupa - Today at 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 03:43:44 AMCivil discourse.

It's uncivil discourse justified on the *universal* principle of reciprocity. I don't feel the moral obligation to grant you more civility than you grant me.  Tit for tat.  Don't start shit, don't take shit.

Sounds like justification. Here's what I think: you're not as awesome as you think you are. You're not as rational, smart and logical. You're just another dipshit, like the rest of us.
#39
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 03:11:38 PMHillay, I think that covers your issues, yeah?

Maybe not. Who would I consider a rationalist that is not?

Raz? He's a work in progress.
#40
Off the Record / Re: Baseball
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 03:46:07 PM
MLB is in bed with the gambling business; the gambling companies run ads and crawlers on televised games updating odds, and yet MLB is shocked, shocked, to find there is gambling going on in the game. This is least surprising scandal imaginable.