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#21
Off the Record / Re: Baseball
Last post by crazy canuck - October 16, 2025, 10:35:52 PM
And it's all tied up!
#22
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by crazy canuck - October 16, 2025, 10:33:39 PM
I am wondering why PP isn't even trying to hide his Trumpism anymore.  The need to appeal to the 30% or so of the Conservative Party members who are pro Trump ahead of the Leadership review?
#23
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by frunk - October 16, 2025, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 16, 2025, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2025, 05:55:48 PMBut that is beside the point. If I am a campaigner to save stray dogs, it doesn't mean I am some kind of evil hypocrit because I don't save stray cats. That's stupid.

If you like dogs and are indifferent to cats that does not make you a hypocrite.  It's only when you claim you love all animals and ask us to join you on the grounds that all decent human beings love all animals that you become a hypocrite.

How?  You'll have to walk me through how your statement is hypocritical.  It might be wrong, stupid, or a lie but I wouldn't call it hypocritical. 

I can claim to love all animals but if I don't have the resources to save all animals and choose to focus on dogs strictly because it's something I can achieve I don't think that makes me a hypocrite.  In fact I think that makes you much better than someone who claims to love all animals but does nothing out of fear that helping some more than others would appear hypocritical. 

If I claimed to love all animals but secretly worked to hurt some that would be hypocritical.  If I claimed to be helping all animals but secretly only helped some I wouldn't even call that hypocritical, just deceptive and deceitful.  You aren't going against the stated principle of loving all animals, rather you are lying to people about what you are achieving.
#24
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Razgovory - October 16, 2025, 09:24:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2025, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 16, 2025, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2025, 09:18:53 AMThe hypocrisy shit is so lame. It just tells me you have no actual substantial critique.
What hypocrisy tells me is that the objection is not based on principles, but rather principles are assigned to the objection after the fact. 

The close cousin is selective prosecution; sure, you can point to the law that everyone subjected to it has broken, but that doesn't mean that the law is applied to further the rule of law.  Rather, the law is being used as a cudgel to attack people you have chosen to attack for other reasons.

Well a big part is the media over here just doesn't give a shit about Sudan. So they don't hear about it. Where as the Israel-Palestine things has dominated American politics for fifty fucking years. It would be hard to NOT know what is going on over there. It probably helped get Donald Trump elected. Sudan? Yemen? Not so much.

But that is beside the point. If I am a campaigner to save stray dogs, it doesn't mean I am some kind of evil hypocrit because I don't save stray cats. That's stupid.

We've been killing Yemenis for a quarter century now.  We've been in deep with the Saudis since the 1930's. We had troops fighting in Syria.  So why is the Palestinian cause so salient?
#25
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by OttoVonBismarck - October 16, 2025, 09:17:59 PM
Viper memeing isn't that interesting, but the simple fact is no one contested when we killed the Hitler Youth 14 year old soldiers etc. That's what Gaza is. Palestinians are effectively Nazis, obviously not an identical ideology, but it's an entire culture built around hatred of (coincidentally like the Nazis) Jews, from a very young age. And their kids have been killing Jews for decades.

Their women frequently do as well btw, this mythology that there's tons of "innocent" women and children in Gaza is just that, a pleasant fiction leftists tell to hide the fact Palestinians are evil monsters in thrall to evil ideology.
#26
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by HVC - October 16, 2025, 08:59:20 PM
Lock him up?
#27
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by crazy canuck - October 16, 2025, 08:58:20 PM
Report from the Canadian Press

QuoteConservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said the RCMP covered up what he calls scandals involving former prime minister Justin Trudeau, and said they would have otherwise led to criminal charges.

In a recent interview with YouTube channel Northern Perspective, Poilievre called the leadership of the RCMP "despicable" and added that many of the scandals of the Trudeau era "should have involved jail time."

#28
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Admiral Yi - October 16, 2025, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2025, 05:55:48 PMBut that is beside the point. If I am a campaigner to save stray dogs, it doesn't mean I am some kind of evil hypocrit because I don't save stray cats. That's stupid.

If you like dogs and are indifferent to cats that does not make you a hypocrite.  It's only when you claim you love all animals and ask us to join you on the grounds that all decent human beings love all animals that you become a hypocrite.
#29
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by viper37 - October 16, 2025, 06:05:50 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 15, 2025, 10:14:58 PMAnd children are not special in war--Hamas has many children who fight for it, you aren't immune from being worthy of killing just because you are under the legal age of majority in the West. There's 12 year olds in Gaza who are as much a soldier as anyone else in the war.
Obviously, all American children should be slaughtered.  They will grow to become Republican soldiers under the Department of war.  They aren't immune from being worthy of killing just because they are under the legal of majority.

The Republicans already want to send some of them to death row anyway and don't care about the poor ones health or education.  

With the end of airport security measures and tourist visits at an all time low, now is a good time to strike. They would minimize collateral damage.  Ideally, strike an airport in South Carolina or Florida to maximize the chances of killing the good ones.  I guess Venezuela could do it with some help.  Or launch a suicide boat to one of those cruise boat ports.

No big deal.  Just casualties of war, totally worth it, apparently.
#30
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by HVC - October 16, 2025, 06:01:01 PM
Twice vomited. Makes it sound fancier :P