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#21

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 12:47:42 PM

Come off it.
Some evidence did point that way. The reality is unknown. But this remains plausible.

This is the opposite of the reality where there was an active attempt to smear the left as a whole with it before the body was even cold.

The evidence was that he once wore a track suit and played.  Trying to shift blame like this so... far-right of you.

#22

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 12:33:28 PM

The pattern seems to be when Raz says a lot of people it's the impression he gets from Facebook.

Also what people say here.

#23

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 12:27:24 PM

US senators celebrated the right wing Trumpist killing 2 Minnesota politicians. I think that's more impactful than randos on twitter or facebook making fun of Charlie Kirk's murder.

Who were the US senators who did this?

Yeah ok you demand receipts but never provide them yourself. Pretty lame. Googling in fucking 2 seconds is too hard?

Anyway Mike Lee, Bernie Moreno, Donald Trump Jr., Laura Loomer, and Elon Musk all had pretty gross things to say about it. Loomer even said Walz had ordered them murdered.

But that's fine. What's really outrageous is some random person you won't name might have implied the shooter of Kirk was part of a fringe Internet right wing group when clearly it was the collective responsibility of everybody left of center. And you provide no evidence of this.

I can name people.  You want me to name Sophie?  I can do that.  Sophie brought up the Groyper bullshit here.

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#24

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 12:25:20 PM

Except Mike Lee did not celebrate their deaths.  He attempted to shift blame to his political enemies. Just like when people claimed without any evidence whatsoever that the guy who killed Charlie Kirk was a Groyper. It is pathetic.  Of course I knew this, I asked for receipts because I knew Zoupa didn't have them.  But of course, he might come through and find two US senators who celebrated the deaths of Minnesota state reps.

#25

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by HVC - Today at 12:02:30 PM

The pattern seems to be when Raz says a lot of people it's the impression he gets from Facebook.

#26

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 11:59:56 AM

I wonder if there's a bell curve here.
Cant name the last 5- probably has memory issues.
Names them all in order from Washington - probably has issues.   

I think we can forgive an 18-year-old for not knowing who the presidents were before she became aware of what a president is.

#27

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Valmy - Today at 11:47:06 AM

US senators celebrated the right wing Trumpist killing 2 Minnesota politicians. I think that's more impactful than randos on twitter or facebook making fun of Charlie Kirk's murder.

Who were the US senators who did this?

Yeah ok you demand receipts but never provide them yourself. Pretty lame. Googling in fucking 2 seconds is too hard?

Anyway Mike Lee, Bernie Moreno, Donald Trump Jr., Laura Loomer, and Elon Musk all had pretty gross things to say about it. Loomer even said Walz had ordered them murdered.

But that's fine. What's really outrageous is some random person you won't name might have implied the shooter of Kirk was part of a fringe Internet right wing group when clearly it was the collective responsibility of everybody left of center. And you provide no evidence of this.

#28

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Josquius - Today at 11:38:37 AM

US senators celebrated the right wing Trumpist killing 2 Minnesota politicians. I think that's more impactful than randos on twitter or facebook making fun of Charlie Kirk's murder.

Who were the US senators who did this?

Google tells me Mike Lee. And from elsewhere Derrick Van Orden.
Away from the celebrators there was also quite a lot of silence.

Quite a lot of people claimed with confidence that the killer of Charlie Kirk was a Groyper.  There was no evidence at all for this.  This was a simply a wretched attempt to shift blame for the killing from Left to Right.  The coup counting with political violence is unseemly.   

Come off it.
Some evidence did point that way. The reality is unknown. But this remains plausible.

This is the opposite of the reality where there was an active attempt to smear the left as a whole with it before the body was even cold.

#29

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Valmy - Today at 11:36:17 AM

Quite a lot of people claimed with confidence that the killer of Charlie Kirk was a Groyper.  There was no evidence at all for this.  This was a simply a wretched attempt to shift blame for the killing from Left to Right.  The coup counting with political violence is unseemly. 

How was the left responsible? He was just some Internet brained freak. Hardly mainstream anything.

If it is unseemly then why are you doing it?

#30

Off the Record / Re: Trump's Venezuela Vendetta

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 10:49:39 AM

US senators celebrated the right wing Trumpist killing 2 Minnesota politicians. I think that's more impactful than randos on twitter or facebook making fun of Charlie Kirk's murder.

Who were the US senators who did this?