
Quote from: mongers on February 19, 2026, 08:07:23 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on February 19, 2026, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on February 19, 2026, 06:40:46 PMYou can buy raw milk in lots of European countries.
It's nothing to do with safety - it's industrial capture of regulators in America and MacDonaldisation and mass production of food is not "safer".
Oh my, so much misinformation, so little time to correct it.
Raw milk definitely has safety risks, namely food poisoning. Pasteurization eliminates that risk. If a source of raw milk can be found where there is a high degree of confidence that the practices used to obtain, store and ship the milk has a low chance of being contaminated with salmonella, E. coli and listeria then of course the risk is reduced.
But have you ever actually been to a diary farm? You do realize there is shit every where right? You would need to have a very high degree confidence the diary farmer has taken all necessary precautions.
Cheese from raw milk is a different matter - the risk there is much lower.
This was the public safety lesson learnt in the the early 20th century, I don't know why people think in the 21st century that a different one can be an outcome?
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Quote from: mongers on February 19, 2026, 08:07:23 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on February 19, 2026, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: Sheilbh on February 19, 2026, 06:40:46 PMYou can buy raw milk in lots of European countries.
It's nothing to do with safety - it's industrial capture of regulators in America and MacDonaldisation and mass production of food is not "safer".
Oh my, so much misinformation, so little time to correct it.
Raw milk definitely has safety risks, namely food poisoning. Pasteurization eliminates that risk. If a source of raw milk can be found where there is a high degree of confidence that the practices used to obtain, store and ship the milk has a low chance of being contaminated with salmonella, E. coli and listeria then of course the risk is reduced.
But have you ever actually been to a diary farm? You do realize there is shit every where right? You would need to have a very high degree confidence the diary farmer has taken all necessary precautions.
Cheese from raw milk is a different matter - the risk there is much lower.
This was the public safety lesson learnt in the the early 20th century, I don't know why people think in the 21st century that a different one can be an outcome?
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