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Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by OttoVonBismarck - Today at 01:34:56 PMI think if it happens it will be like Vietnam. It won't be an initial, shock and awe. It will be some pretextual, limited-scope ground incursion. Which will then result in more troops being needed and then more and then more etc. The obvious reason Vietnam happened that way is the more we got into it, the more of a quagmire it became, and that will be paralleled if we go into Iran.
Once ground troops are involved it will also be harder and harder for Congress to resist huge appropriations bills--no one likes to be on the other side of the vote when the President can say you're abandoning our soldiers on the ground.
Once ground troops are involved it will also be harder and harder for Congress to resist huge appropriations bills--no one likes to be on the other side of the vote when the President can say you're abandoning our soldiers on the ground.
#2
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Jacob - Today at 01:24:57 PMYeah the ground war is coming, I have no doubt.
The thing I'd wonder about were I American is whether the initial phase is going to be some sort of massive shock and awe type action, or whether it'll be a step by step escalation with one thing leading to another. I think those two scenarios will have different likely costs in terms of money and American lives.
My understanding is - and please correct me if I'm wrong - that the US has not positioned massive amounts of troops for a potential ground invasion yet, right? We're looking at a few MEU and such so far, right? How long would it take to position Gulf War I or II amounts of troops?
The other thing I'm curious about is how the likely ground invasion is going to affect US domestic politics and the upcoming midterms.
The thing I'd wonder about were I American is whether the initial phase is going to be some sort of massive shock and awe type action, or whether it'll be a step by step escalation with one thing leading to another. I think those two scenarios will have different likely costs in terms of money and American lives.
My understanding is - and please correct me if I'm wrong - that the US has not positioned massive amounts of troops for a potential ground invasion yet, right? We're looking at a few MEU and such so far, right? How long would it take to position Gulf War I or II amounts of troops?
The other thing I'm curious about is how the likely ground invasion is going to affect US domestic politics and the upcoming midterms.
#3
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by OttoVonBismarck - Today at 11:58:08 AMWith Trump there's always a battle between his innate cowardice (TACO) and his innate belligerent stupidity.
Probably worse for the world that it looks like the latter is winning out in this conflict. The threat to strike Iran's power plants (essentially openly forecasting Russian like behavior to cause huge humanitarian harm), is the sort of "ego risking" situation that has often only led to Trump doubling down. Trump is willing to destroy much to protect his own ego, so the risk is his normal cowardly ways won't give us an off ramp.
If he goes through with it my assumption is Iran's response will all but guarantee a ground war in Iran, basically taking us down the worst possible path in terms of immense waste of national resources, global economic harm and mass destabilization of the entire Middle East.
Guess we are left hoping his TACO side saves us.
Probably worse for the world that it looks like the latter is winning out in this conflict. The threat to strike Iran's power plants (essentially openly forecasting Russian like behavior to cause huge humanitarian harm), is the sort of "ego risking" situation that has often only led to Trump doubling down. Trump is willing to destroy much to protect his own ego, so the risk is his normal cowardly ways won't give us an off ramp.
If he goes through with it my assumption is Iran's response will all but guarantee a ground war in Iran, basically taking us down the worst possible path in terms of immense waste of national resources, global economic harm and mass destabilization of the entire Middle East.
Guess we are left hoping his TACO side saves us.
#4
Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 11:38:49 AMQuote from: The Minsky Moment on March 21, 2026, 10:51:29 AMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on March 21, 2026, 08:47:37 AMDeus Vult is American now?
Is it badass and also kind of racist?
Then yes.
Quote from: Valmy on March 21, 2026, 11:24:52 AMThe Crusades included several pogroms of Jews. Just saying.
Make up your mind, racism or sectarianism.
As for the Crusades, Iberian reconquista-era had the Almoravid and Almohads beating to the punch the Christian kingdoms for the anti-Jewish policies in general, and pogroms in particular.
#5
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Norgy - Today at 11:32:03 AMI watched three EPL matches this weekend.
Everton absolutely thrashed Chelsea. Whatever David Moyes has done to this team, it is probably a well-kept secret.
The Tyneside derby is always a highlight. I think Eddie Howe might be looking for a new job soon.
And then there was the match at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium.
Forest were poor in the first half, but got that goal from someone who almost never scores. Except in Europe. Igor Jesus is officially Nottingham Forest's all-time top goalscorer in European competitions.
Two more goals from Forest in the second half, and even though it felt good to see "my" club finally win again, I have to say, I wonder how Tottenham with so many resources have managed to become so impoverished of tactical acumen.
Everton absolutely thrashed Chelsea. Whatever David Moyes has done to this team, it is probably a well-kept secret.
The Tyneside derby is always a highlight. I think Eddie Howe might be looking for a new job soon.
And then there was the match at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium.
Forest were poor in the first half, but got that goal from someone who almost never scores. Except in Europe. Igor Jesus is officially Nottingham Forest's all-time top goalscorer in European competitions.
Two more goals from Forest in the second half, and even though it felt good to see "my" club finally win again, I have to say, I wonder how Tottenham with so many resources have managed to become so impoverished of tactical acumen.
#6
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 10:40:36 AMQuote from: Zoupa on March 21, 2026, 08:06:00 PMit's within FPV drone range
No understand your fancy big words. You need to speak American. We crush Iran. We have big boats and big bombs. We have WARRIORS! America win!
#7
Off the Record / Re: Dead Pool 2026
Last post by Syt - Today at 09:46:55 AMQuote from: viper37 on March 21, 2026, 03:03:14 PMRobert Mueller died, age 81.
Trump posting online, his shocking no one:
"Robert Mueller just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people!"
#8
Off the Record / Re: The AI dooooooom thread
Last post by CountDeMoney - Today at 09:19:57 AMQuote from: Syt on March 14, 2026, 02:30:00 AMFrom Palantir's Youtube:QuoteCameron Stanley, Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Officer of the Department of War, shares how the DoW is driving enterprise-wide adoption of data, analytics, and AI to generate decision advantage—and what it takes to move cutting-edge technology from the lab to the warfighter at speed.
I saw this movie before, except it was the RAND Corporation, the war was Vietnam and it ran on a mainframe, not a graphics card. These pencilneck fuckmonkeys never learn.
QuoteThe use of "enterprise-wide" for the Department ofDefenseWAAAGH seems weird but fitting with this administration.
When you stuff your government with quasi-libertarian crypto-brah autism-maxxing techno-Marxists, that's what you're going to get.
Problem with you people is you should've beaten the shit out of them all in high school when you had the fucking chance. That's what we did.
Now they're roaming the earth, destroying everything in their paths like the United States Government, a division of SalesForce(tm).
#9
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by viper37 - Today at 09:16:31 AMQuote from: HVC on March 21, 2026, 06:17:34 PMIn comparison to trumps meeting with the Japanese PMIsn't she far right?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVjGGTODzNb
#10
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Legbiter - Today at 07:48:29 AMQuote"Following previous warnings, if Iran's fuel and energy infrastructure is attacked by the enemy, all energy, information technology, and desalination infrastructure belonging to the United States and the regime in the region will be targeted."
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2035537977653244285
Not surprising. The Iranians are betting they can outsuffer everyone else.