Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 03:13:56 AMQuote from: Josquius on Today at 02:56:51 AMTop 2- MehI don't think that the top two are being shed because people now feel an enlightened post-nationalism or confessionalism feeling an equal or greater obligation to all humanity. I think it's that they don't feel obligated or beholden or connected to anyone.
Bottom 3- bad.... But I would wonder about eggs and chickens.
Quote from: Josquius on Today at 02:56:51 AMTop 2- MehI don't think that the top two are being shed because people now feel an enlightened post-nationalism or confessionalism feeling an equal or greater obligation to all humanity. I think it's that they don't feel obligated or beholden or connected to anyone.
Bottom 3- bad.... But I would wonder about eggs and chickens.
Quote from: Zoupa on December 07, 2025, 07:00:13 PMI agree with your post in general, but wanted to submit the following idea in response to this part: we need to figure out ways to get the money to sustain our social models. States need to get that money where it actually is these days, and increasingly it is not (barring the odd trillionaire) with the general population. We need to tax financial transactions and we need to tax corporations more.So I'm not totally sold because I think the level of revenue to sustain a social democratic system is far higher than you can get from soaking the rich, or corporations. And what worries me is that I think there is less buy-in for the broad based, everyone pays sort of system you need to sustain it - in part, I think, because fewer people feel like they benefit. I'd also add that the estimate for that FTT tax is that it'd raise €55-60 billion a year which is not nothing but split between states is not huge - it's also significantly less than the €150+ estimated revenue EU states could generate by ending the internal tax shelters (Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta). I think building new complex taxes may be more work than it's worth, especially compared to reforming and properly enforcing existing ones (but this is my answer to everything: build back state capacity).
Something like this could be a start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_financial_transaction_tax
). In the UK, income inequality has basically plateaued since the 80s. Wealth inequality for longer - so the share of wealth held by the top 1% in the UK is just over 20%, it was at about 20% in 1980. In the US it's gone from below 25% to over 35%. Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 07, 2025, 05:01:14 PMQuote from: mongers on December 07, 2025, 07:55:15 AMMan this place is dying, yours and Norgy's post are the only ones today, in like about 10 hours.
I was busy today, with a movie/blu-ray/DVD fair and a screening of Boorman's Excalibur in one of the last cinemas in the Champs-Élysées.![]()
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 07, 2025, 04:40:57 PMI don't think there's a way out of that. But I think the "left" is broadly so committed to the social and cultural aspects of a neo-liberal globalised world, they are not able to even imagine alternatives that could meaningfully address the economic effects of that system.
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