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#1

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Jacob - Today at 10:36:22 PM

I can only guess at the success of the various operations so far but what is unquestionable is the US stumbled into a war without a clue about what it was doing, to the point it wasn't even prepared to secure nationals in the region.  It has wasted extraordinary amounts of high value munitions that could be used far more productively elsewhere blasting many things of little significance to the US and shooting down a bunch of shitty low value drones.  And it has zero clue how to proceed or how to terminate.

This administration makes the underpants gnomes look like master strategists;

Step 1: Start war and blow things up.
Step 2:  ????????????????
Step 3:  ????????????????

It seems clear to me that someone is going to have to seriously evaluate the limits of American military power.

Either the people who say "the US has the most powerful military machine the world has ever seen, we should just use it to get whatever we want" are about to learn it's not as simple as that.

Alternately, those of us think it's "not as simple as that" are going to find out that it actually is.

Right now I expect that the first scenario is much more likely than the second, but we'll see.

[Marines landing on a beach to be greeted by media and camera crews.]

#2

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by mongers - Today at 10:29:46 PM

I can only guess at the success of the various operations so far but what is unquestionable is the US stumbled into a war without a clue about what it was doing, to the point it wasn't even prepared to secure nationals in the region.  It has wasted extraordinary amounts of high value munitions that could be used far more productively elsewhere blasting many things of little significance to the US and shooting down a bunch of shitty low value drones.  And it has zero clue how to proceed or how to terminate.

This administration makes the underpants gnomes look like master strategists;

Step 1: Start war and blow things up.
Step 2:  Marines landing on a beach to be greeted by media and camera crews.
Step 3:  ????????????????

FYP.

#3

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 10:19:18 PM

I can only guess at the success of the various operations so far but what is unquestionable is the US stumbled into a war without a clue about what it was doing, to the point it wasn't even prepared to secure nationals in the region.  It has wasted extraordinary amounts of high value munitions that could be used far more productively elsewhere blasting many things of little significance to the US and shooting down a bunch of shitty low value drones.  And it has zero clue how to proceed or how to terminate.

This administration makes the underpants gnomes look like master strategists;

Step 1: Start war and blow things up.
Step 2:  ????????????????
Step 3:  ????????????????

#4

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by HisMajestyBOB - Today at 09:43:58 PM

He lost the battle but kept Epstein of the front pages for a week or so. That's the war he cares about. As for the presidency I don't think any new polls are out, but I doubt he's gone down much further then before attacking Iran.

I can already tell you what the polls will show: ~85% of Republicans show support, 85% of Democrats oppose, and the number for independents is in between but tilted towards opposed.

#5

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 09:43:44 PM

He lost the battle but kept Epstein of the front pages for a week or so. That's the war he cares about. As for the presidency I don't think any new polls are out, but I doubt he's gone down much further then before attacking Iran.

#6

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by HVC - Today at 09:32:10 PM

He lost the battle but kept Epstein of the front pages for a week or so. That's the war he cares about. As for the presidency I don't think any new polls are out, but I doubt he's gone down much further then before attacking Iran.

#7

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 09:30:41 PM

I'd say Trump has lost this war and just about obliterated his presidency. And I don't know if he can just declare victory. Iranians will have a say in that as well.

#8

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 09:21:17 PM

That Patricia Marins account you listed is "Global South" inc. She's a "BRICS are awesome", "yes I was part of the Valdai club but", "look at the Ukrainian recruitment methods, they should surrender", "here's why Taiwan should not resist if China invades" etc ad nauseam.

She's followed by trustworthy accounts hence she popped up. Her doomer approach is not wrong at this stage of the game.

#9

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by OttoVonBismarck - Today at 09:10:21 PM

The Israeli media is under strict wartime reporting. You can pretty much observe it in real-time on twitter so long as you have filtered out the..."Global South" accounts.

I mean the person you're posting Tweets from is claiming tons of missile strikes in this last wave, when the real media is saying there was no intact missile impacts and one missile had a fragment break off that injured a single person. I'm not sure they're the most accurate.

#10

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Zoupa - Today at 09:07:01 PM

The Israeli media is under strict wartime reporting. You can pretty much observe it in real-time on twitter so long as you have filtered out the..."Global South" accounts.

That Patricia Marins account you listed is "Global South" inc. She's a "BRICS are awesome", "yes I was part of the Valdai club but", "look at the Ukrainian recruitment methods, they should surrender", "here's why Taiwan should not resist if China invades" etc ad nauseam.