Quote from: Zoupa on January 06, 2026, 07:42:47 PMYou keep harping about logistics being dependent on the US but I really don't know where you get that idea from. France alone has 67 heavy airlift planes and 14 tanker/refueling planes. Brits have 30 heavy airlift and 14 tankers.
Quote from: Jacob on January 06, 2026, 06:00:45 PMSheilbh has a theory that they have local collaborators in Venezuela already, they're just rolling it out slowly.
It would be competent.
Quote from: Razgovory on January 06, 2026, 08:47:53 PMYeah, I read all that. We don't even have the concept of a plan. It's just rambling nonsense. It's like rule by meme. I don't care that much about Venezuela, but I really prefer the US doesn't try to occupy the country. I'm not that enthused with the "take their oil" idea that Trump is talking about.
Some Democrats want to defend Maduro, but I'm not one of them. I would have preferred if we just continued ignoring Venezuela, like we have done for the last two decades. They didn't seem to be much of a threat. Still, I'm not going to complain too much that the guy was captured. Unless the country falls into civil war or the US invades. Then I will complain quite a bit.
Quote from: Jacob on January 06, 2026, 01:18:59 PMQuote from: Razgovory on January 06, 2026, 01:00:34 PMI would like to know what are government is actually planning to do with Venezuela.
From what Syt posted above:Quote"What we are going to react to is very simple: what do you do? Not what you're saying publicly, what happens... Do the drugs stop coming? Are the changes made? Is Iran expelled? Is Hezbollah and Iran no longer able to operate against our interests from Venezuela?" (Watch)
"It's running policy — the policy with regards to this. We want Venezuela to move in a certain direction because not only do we think it's good for the people of Venezuela, it's in our national interest."
... it sounds like "nothing". The US doesn't in fact have Venezuela, so they (you) are not going to do anything with it.
It sounds to me like they expected Venezuela to suddenly take direction from the US because Maduro was abducted. And, I suppose, they'll potentially take other similar (non-Congressional-approval-requiring) short limited actions to look strong and attempt to intimidate Venezuela's leadership if the leadership doesn't improve in that "certain direction".
Which I expect Venezuela won't.
Maybe they'll abduct the VP next?
QuoteThe White House said on Tuesday: "The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the US military is always an option at the Commander-in-Chief's disposal."
Quote from: Valmy on January 06, 2026, 03:45:25 PMThey say misery loves company but doesn't hearten me much to see the complacency and incompetence of the Democrats in the face of an existantial threat seems to be a political phenomenon throughout the western world for non extremist political parties.
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 06, 2026, 06:36:12 PMA couple of thoughts....
Quote from: Jacob on January 06, 2026, 06:00:45 PMSheilbh has a theory that they have local collaborators in Venezuela already, they're just rolling it out slowly.
It would be competent.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 06, 2026, 07:18:00 PMQuote from: HVC on January 06, 2026, 07:04:02 PMNot even to buy time? If there no current alternative is there really an option?
Like surrendering the Sudetenland bought time? I don't see how contracting with Palantir does that.

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