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#1

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Valmy - March 08, 2026, 11:41:05 PM

But you claim technical victory, that's something at least


And you beat Granada for realsies right?

Again...countries that actually resisted us. I think the only real example to the contrary is the First Gulf War and we somehow still screwed up the peace.

#2

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by HVC - March 08, 2026, 11:37:32 PM

But you claim technical victory, that's something at least


And you beat Granada for realsies right?

#3

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Valmy - March 08, 2026, 11:28:35 PM

It seems clear to me that someone is going to have to seriously evaluate the limits of American military power.

Either the people who say "the US has the most powerful military machine the world has ever seen, we should just use it to get whatever we want" are about to learn it's not as simple as that.

Alternately, those of us think it's "not as simple as that" are going to find out that it actually is.

Right now I expect that the first scenario is much more likely than the second, but we'll see.

I mean...just look at our entire history since the Korean War (which we didn't even win). Anytime any country actually bothers to resist us we lose.

#4

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Jacob - March 08, 2026, 10:58:54 PM

What are you basing this on?

The current US performance.

A bit of a general statement, but okay 

#5

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Legbiter - March 08, 2026, 10:46:13 PM

What are you basing this on?

The current US performance.

#6

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Jacob - March 08, 2026, 10:41:50 PM

We have our answer on how well the US would fight to defend Taiwan. All bases in the Western Pacific would get taken out on day 1-2. Taiwan is an inseparable part of China guys. 

What are you basing this on?

#7

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Legbiter - March 08, 2026, 10:39:54 PM

We have our answer on how well the US would fight to defend Taiwan. All bases in the Western Pacific would get taken out on day 1-2. Taiwan is an inseparable part of China guys. 

#8

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Jacob - March 08, 2026, 10:36:22 PM

I can only guess at the success of the various operations so far but what is unquestionable is the US stumbled into a war without a clue about what it was doing, to the point it wasn't even prepared to secure nationals in the region.  It has wasted extraordinary amounts of high value munitions that could be used far more productively elsewhere blasting many things of little significance to the US and shooting down a bunch of shitty low value drones.  And it has zero clue how to proceed or how to terminate.

This administration makes the underpants gnomes look like master strategists;

Step 1: Start war and blow things up.
Step 2:  ????????????????
Step 3:  ????????????????

It seems clear to me that someone is going to have to seriously evaluate the limits of American military power.

Either the people who say "the US has the most powerful military machine the world has ever seen, we should just use it to get whatever we want" are about to learn it's not as simple as that.

Alternately, those of us think it's "not as simple as that" are going to find out that it actually is.

Right now I expect that the first scenario is much more likely than the second, but we'll see.

[Marines landing on a beach to be greeted by media and camera crews.]

#9

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by mongers - March 08, 2026, 10:29:46 PM

I can only guess at the success of the various operations so far but what is unquestionable is the US stumbled into a war without a clue about what it was doing, to the point it wasn't even prepared to secure nationals in the region.  It has wasted extraordinary amounts of high value munitions that could be used far more productively elsewhere blasting many things of little significance to the US and shooting down a bunch of shitty low value drones.  And it has zero clue how to proceed or how to terminate.

This administration makes the underpants gnomes look like master strategists;

Step 1: Start war and blow things up.
Step 2:  Marines landing on a beach to be greeted by media and camera crews.
Step 3:  ????????????????

FYP.

#10

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by The Minsky Moment - March 08, 2026, 10:19:18 PM

I can only guess at the success of the various operations so far but what is unquestionable is the US stumbled into a war without a clue about what it was doing, to the point it wasn't even prepared to secure nationals in the region.  It has wasted extraordinary amounts of high value munitions that could be used far more productively elsewhere blasting many things of little significance to the US and shooting down a bunch of shitty low value drones.  And it has zero clue how to proceed or how to terminate.

This administration makes the underpants gnomes look like master strategists;

Step 1: Start war and blow things up.
Step 2:  ????????????????
Step 3:  ????????????????