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#1
Off the Record / Re: Go Persians, go!
Last post by Jacob - Today at 07:43:36 PM
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#2
Off the Record / Re: Go Persians, go!
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 07:41:38 PM
From a German journalist of Iranian descent - I don't know how true all of these are but they're heart-breaking:
QuoteGolineh Atai
@GolinehAtai
Messages from #Iran

,,I don't know how to live with so much pain and grief"
,,you cannot imagine what happened"
,,nothing will be like before"
,,is the world even ready to face this calamity? Is it capable of not turning its eyes away?"
,,at night their storm private houses, kicking the doors"
,,all of us are in pain, in anger, and full of hate"
,,there are floods of people in Isfahan's cemetery. They brought the corpses in refrigerated trucks. Blood was dripping from the trucks"
,,I am utterly hopeless and exhausted. I cannot imagine something happening from within. They have infiltrated us more than you think. They have everything to kill each and everyone of us"
,,The Islamic Republic was right when it promised to feed the people. Yes, they fed us bullets"
,,The situation reminds me of Orwell's 1984. Everywhere you hear and see their propaganda while you've lost the ability to speak because of the terror they have imposed on us"
,,They killed the protester. He had a tattoo on his middle finger that showed a crown. They also shot through this finger"

I know there's the mourning cycle which was an engine in the Iranian Revolution and may happen but it sounds very grim :(
#3
Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 07:40:18 PM
So Mark Rutte and Donald Trump has agreed on a framework agreement. It'll be interesting to see what they're talking about, but so far there are no reports on whether Denmark or Greenland has agreed to anything.
#4
Off the Record / Re: The EU thread
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on Today at 12:52:15 PMWhy the Democrats allowed obvious partisan actors like Musk continue to get government contracts blew my mind.

Don't make the same mistake. Ban these bad actors from your shores. Punish them for attempting to weild undemocratic political power.
Not just get government contracts - from my understanding, without policy decisions under Obama on roll out of EVs and Space X contracts, Musk would have gone under.

To be honest I think part of it was that they were not read/understood as they are now, then. I remember the glowing, excited articles about the future of politics following Obama's campaign which was apparently based on microtargeting. The exact same technology and platforms that were, in 2016, weaponise in a plot against democracy. I don't know with that sort of thing or with Musk the extent to which they have changed (ie we were right in 2012 - and they're not the same person) or the extent to which our perspective has shifted and we read it wrong then? I'm genuinely not sure (my own view is probably just that wealth and power and their class position will always be hostile to democratic power - but so are the cuddly billionaires :ph34r:).

On the EU, there are mechanisms for doing that sort of thing - like the Digital Services Act which has mechanisms to act against the platforms. My own view is the real problem is that it would be a political decision and require politics - Europe operates at the level of technical policy making and "rule of law". There are rules and laws around how and when the EU could do that sort of thing. The EU successfully dealt with Microsoft over competition - but it took about a decade of deeply technical work and court cases. If your view is around threats to democracy then that's not going to be a viable solution - and that is the EU's MO (for very good reasons). I think part of the EU reluctance is also a bit like why Europe is not just spending Russian assets - it could be a very dangerous precedent.

I mentioned elsewhere that just last month the other problem is that for some of these services there is no European alternative. I mentioned it but the French intelligence service recently extended their contract with Palantir (agreed last month). This was a deal they entered into very quickly after the Bataclan attack and the renewal was framed around a successful Olympics. For better or worse, Europe has not developed a big data powered panopticon that will help intelligence agencies prevent terrorist attacks. As I say there's a better and worse side of that but I think that is an important part of the context for this - that at least in part the trade off decision-makers have is do you put money in Peter Thiel's pocket, or do you decommission a supplier that is credibly reducing the risk of another Bataclan attack? I hate to say it but we'd be in a better position if there were European companies specialising in spying on us all - sadly they're all American or Israeli.
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Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 07:29:52 PM
Quote from: Maladict on Today at 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 05:12:18 AMSeems like Rutte is continuing with the Daddy Trump approach. Just because it hasn't worked at all doesn't mean it won't suddenly start working, I guess.

It's just what he does.
Quote from: Valmy on Today at 03:34:54 PMYep. You responded with hostility and he backed down. That is how it's done. The Canadians get this.

The British and the Democrats are too stupid unfortunately.
To take these together I think this is sort of a Rorschach test.

Here the lesson everyone is drawing is confirmation of the opinion they had on day one which is about responding with hostility and pushing back etc.

At the same time you see others quote Trump's statement and the "very productive meeting" with Mark Rutte. It seems particularly common from German analysts that it was the "quiet" "prudent" diplomacy of Meloni and Merz and Rutte v the populist bluster of Macron that won out. (And I would add that for all the comments about Starmer specifically here - his approach was not somehow unique and aberrant it was the same as Merz, Meloni, Rutte, Tusk etc).

I think both are plausible - and it may well be both. It's not 100% but I also think an element is Trump the reality TV producer - generating conflict to resolve as part of a narrative arc and make great TV.
#6
Off the Record / Re: World Economic Forum 2026
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: Josephus on January 20, 2026, 12:01:54 PMCanada's PM Mark Carney delivered a strong speech today, arguing that middle powers, such as Canada, need to band together and form a coordinated bloc capable of resisting coercion from great powers and shaping a more stable international order.
I think it was an interesting speech. I think there are challenges with it. But good to have leaders making that sort of argument.
#7
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Valmy - Today at 07:06:16 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 06:18:37 PMApparently both Putin and Lukashenko have been invited to the Board of Peace

Putting the world's biggest warmongers on the Board of Peace is basically where we are going.
#8
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by HVC - Today at 06:52:35 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:51:07 PMActually, "rogues' gallery" might be the wrong term...the better one I've heard is the Legion of Doom.

I like Bored of Peace
#9
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by HVC - Today at 06:52:00 PM
Dignity doesn't put aston Martin's in the garage
#10
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Tonitrus - Today at 06:51:07 PM
Actually, "rogues' gallery" might be the wrong term...the better one I've heard is the Legion of Doom.