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Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Syt - Today at 04:06:20 PMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yvky5ldk1o
QuoteTrump threatens countries that 'play games' with existing trade deals
US President Donald Trump has threatened to impose higher tariffs on countries that "play games" with recent trade deals, after the Supreme Court last week blocked many of the sweeping global levies.
His warning came as countries around the world said they were evaluating what tariffs and trade deals would stand following the decision, which struck down the bulk of tariffs Trump imposed last year.
The European Union said on Monday it would suspend its ratification of a deal struck over the summer.
India also said it would defer previously scheduled talks to finalise a recent agreement.
Writing on social media, Trump warned countries against using the ruling to back away from trade commitments made in response to last year's tariffs.
"Any Country that wants to 'play games' with the ridiculous supreme court decision, especially those that have 'Ripped Off' the U.S.A. for years, and even decades, will be met with a much higher Tariff, and worse, than that which they just recently agreed to," he wrote on Truth Social. "Buyer beware."
The back-and-forth is an indication of the chaos kicked off after the Supreme Court on Friday struck down tariffs unveiled by Trump last spring under the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA).
The court said that law did not authorise the president to impose the tariffs, which are a tax on imports paid by businesses bringing goods into the country.
Trump responded by announcing a new 10% global tariff using a different law, which he quickly raised to 15%. That measure, from which some products are exempt, was set to come into force on Tuesday.
But many countries said they remained uncertain of the status of deals negotiated in the wake of Trump's initial tariff measures, when many countries sought lower levies on their goods in exchange for promises of investments or other concessions meant to make it easier for American firms to do business abroad.
The UK on Monday said it was pressing US officials for answers about whether its deal - which had set tariffs at 10%, below the 15% rate currently under discussion - would hold.
"I recognise the uncertainty the latest announcement from the US has created," UK Business and Trade Secretary Peter Kyle said in a statement, adding that "all options" were on the table as the UK seeks to protect businesses and the public.
Bernd Lange, chair of the European Parliament's International Trade Committee, said the committee had suspended its approval of the deal the US and EU and approved in July while it sought clarity.
"The situation is now more uncertain than ever," he said.
The White House has insisted that its approach to trade will not change as a result of the ruling, as it turns to other laws to impose the duties.
Trump on Friday deployed Section 122, a never-used law that allows the president to impose tariffs for 150 days without congressional approval.
He also ordered officials to start investigations under Section 301, a separate trade law that allows the president to impose tariffs in response to specific "unfair" trade practices.
The new tariffs are expected to stand alongside separate, previously announced tariffs Trump has imposed on specific items, such as steel, aluminium and cars, which were unaffected by the court's ruling.
"We found ways to really reconstruct what we're doing," US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer told on ABC News on Sunday.
"The legal tool to implement it - that might change, but the policy hasn't changed."
In a separate interview with CBS News on Sunday, Greer told that the White House would "stand by" the trade deals it had struck. "We expect our partners to stand by them," Greer added.
But many analysts and businesses say they expect the uncertainty to continue - especially because the new 15% tariffs are due to expire after 150 days, unless Congress votes to extend them.
Senate Democratic minority leader Chuck Schumer warned on Monday that Democrats would block any attempt to extend the duties. Trump's tariffs are also unpopular with some Republicans.
Schumer said in a statement: "Democrats will not go along with furthering Trump's economic carnage."
Writing on social media on Monday, Trump argued he did not need Congress's approval for tariffs.
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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 03:45:33 PMAh okay thanks - I think that sounds like what I thought was called "pre-charge bail".
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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Richard Hakluyt - Today at 03:44:04 PMThere seems to be something called "police bail" from the link I posted :
"The police can release you on police bail if there's not enough evidence to charge you. You do not have to pay to be released on police bail, but you'll have to return to the station for further questioning when asked.
You can be released on conditional bail if the police charge you and think that you may:
commit another offence
fail to turn up at court
intimidate other witnesses
obstruct the course of justice
This means your freedom will be restricted in some way. For example, they can impose a curfew on you if your offence was committed at night."
"The police can release you on police bail if there's not enough evidence to charge you. You do not have to pay to be released on police bail, but you'll have to return to the station for further questioning when asked.
You can be released on conditional bail if the police charge you and think that you may:
commit another offence
fail to turn up at court
intimidate other witnesses
obstruct the course of justice
This means your freedom will be restricted in some way. For example, they can impose a curfew on you if your offence was committed at night."
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Off the Record / Re: The AI dooooooom thread
Last post by Richard Hakluyt - Today at 03:40:15 PMHumans, eh? What a bunch of bloody idiots we are.
But still vastly superior to AI
But still vastly superior to AI
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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 03:39:43 PMQuote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 03:36:15 PMIn general the police can only hold someone for 24 hours before they either charge you with a crime or release you.I think if you're arrested they can compel you to attend a police interview (obviously they can't make you answer - but unlike in the US silence/refusal to answer can be used against you in certain circumstances).
https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights/how-long-you-can-be-held-in-custody
The police would like longer of course
They can also just ask you to turn up to answer some questions of course, a voluntary interview which I suspect one would be advised to attend.
My understanding is that's why people may be arrested for a while so the police can make you come back for further questions.
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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Valmy - Today at 03:38:06 PMQuote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 03:36:15 PMIn general the police can only hold someone for 24 hours before they either charge you with a crime or release you.
This was my understanding of how it worked in the US as well. But it seems like they just sort of hold people forever now without charging them.
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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Richard Hakluyt - Today at 03:36:15 PMIn general the police can only hold someone for 24 hours before they either charge you with a crime or release you.
https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights/how-long-you-can-be-held-in-custody
The police would like longer of course
They can also just ask you to turn up to answer some questions of course, a voluntary interview which I suspect one would be advised to attend.
https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights/how-long-you-can-be-held-in-custody
The police would like longer of course
They can also just ask you to turn up to answer some questions of course, a voluntary interview which I suspect one would be advised to attend.
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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 03:31:58 PMI'm not a criminal lawyer but I think that's right - and you're not normally detained after arrest in the UK you're likely to be released on pre-charge bail (which isn't typically monetary but may have conditions).
I think what qualifies as arrest in the US is normally similar to charging here. That's basically when the police believe they have enough of a case (in consultation with the prosecutors). That's also when the really strict reporting restrictions kick in. So people can be de-arrested and re-arrested as well.
I suspect here they're arresting with a warrant - given that both have been accompanied with searches of properties. My understanding is that arrest is necessary here in certain circumstances to in effect give the accused a sort of warning - so if you've got a solicitor they may say to the police that they need to make an arrest to go down certain lines of questioning or investigation. They need to make it clear they're no long interviewing/investigating with a potential witness but with a suspect.
I think what qualifies as arrest in the US is normally similar to charging here. That's basically when the police believe they have enough of a case (in consultation with the prosecutors). That's also when the really strict reporting restrictions kick in. So people can be de-arrested and re-arrested as well.
I suspect here they're arresting with a warrant - given that both have been accompanied with searches of properties. My understanding is that arrest is necessary here in certain circumstances to in effect give the accused a sort of warning - so if you've got a solicitor they may say to the police that they need to make an arrest to go down certain lines of questioning or investigation. They need to make it clear they're no long interviewing/investigating with a potential witness but with a suspect.
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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by OttoVonBismarck - Today at 03:19:48 PMIf I understand correctly, the UK has a type of arrest that we don't have in the U.S. In the U.S. to actually arrest someone, you need to have proven probable cause, either the arresting officer has to articulate he has established PC in the particulars of his encounter with a person or an officer needs to have already articulated such to a judge who has issued an arrest warrant.
Police here can detain you upon reasonable suspicion (an even lower evidentiary bar), for the purposes of an investigation, but that normally means a brief detention on the street or side of the road. They normally have to establish PC during that detention or cut you loose.
If I understand correctly this guy is more the American equivalent of an investigatory detention, except here you can't formally arrest someone for that purpose.
Police here can detain you upon reasonable suspicion (an even lower evidentiary bar), for the purposes of an investigation, but that normally means a brief detention on the street or side of the road. They normally have to establish PC during that detention or cut you loose.
If I understand correctly this guy is more the American equivalent of an investigatory detention, except here you can't formally arrest someone for that purpose.
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Off the Record / Re: Hungarian Politics
Last post by Tamas - Today at 03:08:13 PMHere is a quick example, Peter Magyar posed for a photo next to a poster depicting him as an evil Two Face: one half in a traditional Hungarian vest, the other half (gasp!) covered in an EU flag and sporting a Ukrainian one as well (this is supposed to show him as evil):
