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Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 02:28:09 PM

I regret to have clicked that link.

It's best that you understand the American fundamentalist mindset

I mean, you don't.

OK, I'll play along. What don't I understand about American fundamentalists who say that Trump is anointed by God to start a war in Iran in order to bring about the end times that they hope comes?

You don't even know the difference between Catholics and Evangelicals.  You thought J.D. Vance was an Evangelical.  But I can play the game as well.  When an Arab Muslim says that killing Jews is worship of Allah, do you think that some important theological statement that applies to all Arab Muslims?

#2

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by OttoVonBismarck - Today at 02:04:19 PM

Kegsbreath ain't goin do shit.

He don't like bombing the guys who can bomb back.

[Hegseth on reports Russia aided Iran: "Anything that shouldn't be happening" will be "confronted strongly"]

#3

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Syt - Today at 01:30:00 PM

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-us-iran-russia/

Hegseth on reports Russia aided Iran: "Anything that shouldn't be happening" will be "confronted strongly"

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that President Trump is "well aware of who's talking to who" amid reports that Russia is providing intelligence to Iran on U.S. movements in the region.

Hegseth told Major Garrett in an interview airing Sunday on "60 Minutes" that the U.S. is "tracking everything" and factoring it into battle plans. "The American people can rest assured their commander-in-chief is well aware of who's talking to who," he said. "And anything that shouldn't be happening, whether it's in public or back-channeled, is being confronted and confronted strongly."

Earlier Friday, multiple sources, including a senior U.S. official, told CBS News that Russia is providing intelligence to Iran regarding U.S. positions in the Middle East during the ongoing joint U.S. and Israeli military operations in Iran. It was the first known indication that Russia is aiding Iran.

Asked if the American people can expect conversations with the Russians to stop their involvement in the conflict, Hegseth said Mr. Trump "has a unique relationship with a lot of world leaders where he can get things done that other presidents, certainly Joe Biden, never could have." He added that "through direct conversations or indirect, through him one-to-one or through his Cabinet, messages definitely can be delivered."

When asked whether Russia's involvement puts U.S. personnel in danger, Hegseth said: "We're putting the other guys in danger, and that's our job. So we're not concerned about that. ... But the only ones that need to be worried right now are Iranians that think they're gonna live."

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, when asked during an appearance on Fox News about Russia providing intelligence to Iran on U.S. assets, said she could not comment on "intelligence reports that are leaked to the press." The intelligence aid from Russia was first reported by The Washington Post.

"Whether or not this happened, frankly, it doesn't really matter, because President Trump and the United States military are absolutely decimating the rogue Iranian terrorist regime," she said.

Later, Leavitt clarified to reporters that she meant Russia sharing intelligence on U.S. assets with Iran "doesn't matter" because "it clearly is not making a difference with respect to the military operations in Iran, because we are completely decimating them."

#4

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 12:59:35 PM

Imagine if Trump was a wartime president in WWII.

"Tomorrow we're going to bomb a little place called BERRLIN.  We're going to hit them very hard.  There might not be anything left after...... under serious consideration for total destruction!!"

I doubt that. Trump would have joined the Nazis.

exactly

#5

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 11:46:25 AM

I regret to have clicked that link.

It's best that you understand the American fundamentalist mindset

I mean, you don't.

OK, I'll play along. What don't I understand about American fundamentalists who say that Trump is anointed by God to start a war in Iran in order to bring about the end times that they hope comes?

#6

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Zanza - Today at 10:53:05 AM

Imagine if Trump was a wartime president in WWII.

"Tomorrow we're going to bomb a little place called BERRLIN.  We're going to hit them very hard.  There might not be anything left after...... under serious consideration for total destruction!!"

I doubt that. Trump would have joined the Nazis.

#7

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 10:48:58 AM

I regret to have clicked that link.

It's best that you understand the American fundamentalist mindset

I mean, you don't.

#8

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by Bauer - Today at 10:41:42 AM

Imagine if Trump was a wartime president in WWII.

"Tomorrow we're going to bomb a little place called BERRLIN.  We're going to hit them very hard.  There might not be anything left after...... under serious consideration for total destruction!!"

#9

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 10:34:45 AM

I regret to have clicked that link.

It's best that you understand the American fundamentalist mindset

#10

Off the Record / Re: Iran War?

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 10:33:18 AM

who was going to counter attack the sub off the coast of Sri Lanka?

Presumably any other Iranian ship or aircraft.  It's pretty paper thin, but it's enough. 

No, it's not enough. There were no other Iranian ships or aircraft anywhere near that area. The United States Navy knew that.

This is in no way analogies to what happened during the Falkland war.

Yes, it is.  The submarine commander does not have perfect knowledge of the battlespace, nor is he obligated to act as if he does.  He's within theoretical range of maritime patrol aircraft.  He's attacking an enemy warship.  A warship is inarguably a legitimate target, not just a Hegseth 'we shoot anything that moves' target.  The problem here isn't the actions of the submarine, but rather the political decision to go to war (or police action, or whatever) with Iran.

I find it hard to believe the Americans are that uninformed