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Quote from: Liep on December 16, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
Does the women teams have nicknames like the nfl teams, etc? Texas Ponies?

Quote from: HVC on December 16, 2011, 02:23:30 PM
sexists. they should both be called the cowpeople.

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 16, 2011, 02:27:41 PM

Quote from: HVC on December 16, 2011, 02:23:30 PM
sexists. they should both be called the cowpeople.

Discriminates against the thin.

Quote from: Liep on December 16, 2011, 02:12:39 PM
For all the sports too small to get their own thread. In other words, an excuse to talk about Denmark's women handball team.

Right now La Marseillaise is playing, and soon Der er et yndigt land. It's the semis and we're going to lose!

Quote from: Josephus on December 16, 2011, 04:18:51 PM

Are they hawwwt.?

Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2011, 04:40:01 PM
I wouldn't pollute my precious bodily fluids with Danish contamination.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2011, 04:41:49 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2011, 04:40:01 PM
I wouldn't pollute my precious bodily fluids with Danish contamination.

You're a weirdo.

Quote from: Liep on January 23, 2012, 11:39:37 PM
Danes won against the Germans to stay alive in the Euro Cup (handball), but Wozzy is behind against Clijsters. A bad day all in all as this means more articles about how Wozniacki is number one but can't win the big tournaments and I have to suffer through more handball at work.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 16, 2011, 04:11:49 PM
So that people don't get confused with American handball/pelota vasca, I suggest that in future you refer to team handball as handebol.

Quote from: Liep on April 04, 2012, 05:05:08 PM
Wozniacki released a single... it's probably on the top 10 list of worst songs I've ever heard.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/video/other-10107917/caroline-wozniacki-oxygen-28829588.html

Quote from: Cycling NewsSeven-time Tour de France winner banned from competitions

Lance Armstrong has been formally charged with doping by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) according to the Washington Post. The seven-time Tour de France winner has been banned from competition effective immediately, including triathlons which he has been racing since he retired from pro road cycling in 2011.

The Washington Post reported on a copy of a 15-page letter sent to Lance Armstrong by USADA on Tuesday. In it, the agency alleged that some of Armstrong's blood samples from 2009 and 2010 were "fully consistent with blood manipulation including EPO use and/or blood transfusions."

Armstrong has never tested positive in any doping tests.

The news comes after the US federal government ended an investigation into doping allegations abruptly in February. The nearly two-year grand jury investigation was closed with no charges brought.  The Food and Drug Adminstration's Jeff Novitzky had headed the investigation.  Armstrong had welcomed the end of federal investigation earlier this year.

The Washington Post reported that Armstrong's attorney Robert D. Luskin called USADA's latest allegations a product of "malice and spite" on behalf of USADA, which for years has been seeking information on whether Armstrong doped. He pointed to all of Armstrong's passed drug tests and said the letter was a result of a conspiracy against Armstrong since several teams and riders are mentioned, but his client is the only one charged.

USADA has been conducting its own investigation separate from that done by the federal government. USADA has the authority to suspend dopers from competition in Olympic sports and it can take back awards, but it cannot press criminal charges.

The letter accuses not only Armstrong, but also five associates, including three doctors and team manager Johan Bruyneel. It says that they "engaged in a massive doping conspiracy from 1998-2011" and cites the testimony of more than 10 cyclists. Michele Ferrari is one of the named doctors.

In its letter, USADA says Armstrong used EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents as well as distributed them and administered them to others.

Luskin reported that USADA had invited Armstrong to meet last week, but Armstrong chose not to do so.

USADA had previously said it would obtain information from the US Attorney's federal investigation once its case had closed.  "Unlike the U.S. Attorney, USADA's job is to protect clean sport rather than enforce specific criminal laws," Tygart had said in a statement.

Armstrong responds

On his website on Wednesday, Armstrong issued a statement in response to the USADA letter and allegations.

"I have been notified that USADA, an organization largely funded by taxpayer dollars but governed only by self-written rules, intends to again dredge up discredited allegations dating back more than 16 years to prevent me from competing as a triathlete and try and strip me of the seven Tour de France victories I earned. These are the very same charges and the same witnesses that the Justice Department chose not to pursue after a two-year investigation. These charges are baseless, motivated by spite and advanced through testimony bought and paid for by promises of anonymity and immunity. Although USADA alleges a wide-ranging conspiracy extended over more than 16 years, I am the only athlete it has chosen to charge. USADA's malice, its methods, its star-chamber practices, and its decision to punish first and adjudicate later all are at odds with our ideals of fairness and fair play.

"I have never doped, and, unlike many of my accusers, I have competed as an endurance athlete for 25 years with no spike in performance, passed more than 500 drug tests and never failed one. That USADA ignores this fundamental distinction and charges me instead of the admitted dopers says far more about USADA, its lack of fairness and this vendetta than it does about my guilt or innocence."

Quote from: Syt on June 14, 2012, 07:23:04 AM
Yo, Liep, you had subscribed to NFL Game Pass last year, right? How was it? Was it only for live games? Or could you also watch the games after the fact?

Quote from: Caliga on August 27, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
Can we talk about NASCAR in this thread?  What about WWE? :cool:

Quote from: Caliga on August 27, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
Can we talk about NASCAR in this thread?  What about WWE? :cool:

Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2012, 07:51:54 AM
Danica Patrick sucks.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 29, 2012, 09:10:08 AM

Quote from: Ed Anger on August 28, 2012, 07:51:54 AM
Danica Patrick sucks.

I wouldn't mind seeing a video of that.

Quote from: Lance ArmstrongWhen you're on the witness stand, we are going to f---ing tear you apart," Armstrong is alleged to have said. "You are going to look like an f---ing idiot.

Quote from: Liep on August 31, 2012, 03:25:41 AM

Quote from: Lance ArmstrongWhen you're on the witness stand, we are going to f---ing tear you apart," Armstrong is alleged to have said. "You are going to look like an f---ing idiot.

Said to Tyler Hamilton when he was going to admit to doping. He sounds like a really nice guy.

Quote
Kabaddi and its unlikely stars, England
By Sukhi Hayer

Unknown in their own country, the England women's kabaddi team last week played to crowds of 40,000 people at the world cup in India, where they were mobbed by fans, given a police escort... and filmed, all the while, by the BBC's Asian Network.

As blood drips from the lip of Rosie Haigh, she calls out to her team mates.

"I'm alright - c'mon girls, let's do this," says Rosie, captain of the England women's kabaddi team.

They're playing in the 2012 kabaddi world cup in Punjab, India. It's the third world cup and the second time women teams have participated.

Kabaddi in this part of the world is massive - crowds of thousands cram into the stadiums to watch, and the women's event is very popular.

The England team is made up of army personnel, teachers, a police officer, a sports development officer and a pig farmer.

They're all white, playing a sport dominated by South Asians.

Their coach Ashok Das is the main reason they're here. An ex-kabaddi player born in Punjab, Das introduced the sport to the British Army in 2005 as a way of keeping fit.

"Never did I think I would be here in my home leading a team of women playing a sport that I've grown up with," he says. "It's a dream come true."

The girls rarely get time to play or train together. More than half the team are in the army, stationed in countries like Germany and Afghanistan.

For some, like science teacher Sally Tidswall, this is their first taste of kabaddi competition.

"I have to pinch myself sometimes, it's such a surreal experience, We're playing in front of thousands of people who cheer for us and just want to touch us.

The women took time out to enjoy India

"The people here are so genuine. The other day I wasn't feeling very well and I popped into the chemist, and the man behind the counter says 'I've just been watching you on telly' and he gave me a real big hug. They're so welcoming."


What is Kabaddi?
One theory for the name is that it is derived from the words for "holding hands" in Tamil
There are several forms of the game, which is most popular in South Asia
Teams are made up of defenders and raiders
Raiders are sent into the opposing half to tackle opponents and make it back to their own half
India won both the men's and women's world cup last week

Quote'Blackest day in Australian sport'

AUSTRALIA'S sport has been rocked by revelations that organised crime is behind the increasing use of banned performance-enhancing drugs by ''multiple athletes'' across top sporting codes and possible attempts to fix matches and manipulate betting markets.

The heads of all the major professional and participation sports expressed shock after being briefed on a 12-month investigation by the Australian Crime Commission that found professional sport in Australia was ''highly vulnerable to organised crime infiltration''.

Police are now pursuing evidence that some coaches, sports scientists and support staff at clubs have orchestrated or condoned the use of banned drugs and that organised crime figures distributed the drugs.

The probe, named Project Aperio, also revealed personal relationships between professional athletes and organised criminal identities and groups that ''may have resulted in match fixing and the fraudulent manipulation of betting markets''.

It found ''clear parallels'' between what it uncovered and the investigation by the American anti-doping agency into disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong.

''The difference is that the Australian threat is current, crosses sporting codes and is evolving,'' the commission's report said.

Commission chief executive officer John Lawler said on Thursday he was hopeful that criminal charges would be laid, but refused to be drawn on which individuals, clubs or codes were under investigation or when inquiries by state and federal police would be completed.

Former Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority boss Richard Ings said Australians had been in denial about sports doping for too long.

''This is not a black day in Australian sport, this is the blackest day in Australian sport,'' he said.

Federal ministers urged those with knowledge of unethical or illegal behaviour to come forward, saying co-operation could lead to less severe sanctions.

''Don't underestimate how much we know, and if you are involved in this come forward before you get a knock at the door,'' said Justice Minister Jason Clare, adding that the revelations would ''disgust Australian sports fans''.

Mr Clare said ''multiple athletes'' from a number of clubs in major Australian sporting codes were suspected of using or having previously used performance-enhancing drugs and that officials from clubs had been identified as ''administering, via injections and intravenous drips, a variety of substances''.

The government has introduced legislation to increase ASADA's powers so that those who refuse to co-operate will be liable to civil penalties. Sports Minister Kate Lundy warned that those who wanted to dope or fix a match would be caught.

Sporting codes have also agreed to establish integrity units to deal with doping; to call on their athletes to co-operate with investigators; to share information; and to show ''zero tolerance'' for support staff involved in ''peddling inappropriate substances''.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou vowed to increase resources to combat a new generation of performance-enhancing drugs known as peptides. AFL clubs will also have their staff audited, sports science staff registered and be instructed to provide mandatory reporting of any doping issue.

In other developments:

■ Premier Ted Baillieu told Parliament that Victoria Police would establish a sporting integrity intelligence unit.''This report represents a real threat to the integrity of sport in this state,'' he said.

■ It was announced that gambling advertising during sporting events would be the subject of a federal parliamentary inquiry. The Senate passed a motion by Greens senator Richard Di Natale for a joint select committee inquiry into gambling reform. It will report to Parliament on May 16.

■ Independent senator Nick Xenephon called for an immediate suspension on sports betting. ''These extraordinary findings require an urgent response,'' he said.

■ The NRL will appoint former federal judge Tony Whitlam to set up an integrity compliance unit.

With RICHARD WILLINGHAM, ANDREW WU and ADAM COOPER

Quote from: Liep on February 07, 2013, 06:20:00 PMdisgraceful defeat in WC final in handball

Quote from: Liep on February 08, 2013, 05:42:40 PM
And hockey is out. Maybe curling? How's that looking these days.

QuoteWrestling dropped from 2020 Olympic Games

Wrestling has been dropped from the 2020 Games to make way for a new sport.

The International Olympic Committee's executive board made its decision after assessing the performance of all 26 sports at the London Games.

"The news from the IOC is extremely disappointing," said British Wrestling chief executive Colin Nicholson.

There is a slim chance wrestling may win a reprieve when the IOC meets in Buenos Aires in September to ratify its choice.

But it will be vying with seven other sports, among them squash, roller sports and sport climbing, that are hoping for inclusion in the Olympic programme.

Modern pentathlon and taekwondo were thought to be the sports most at risk when the IOC committee met in Lausanne, Switzerland on Tuesday, but wrestling was the surprise choice for the axe.

It will now compete with baseball/softball, squash, karate, sport climbing, wakeboarding, wushu and roller sports for a place in the 2020 Games.

"This is not the end of the process, this is purely a recommendation," said IOC spokesman Mark Adams. "This is not about what's wrong with wrestling but what is good for the Games."

It is extremely unlikely that wrestling will be voted back in so soon after being removed by the executive board, but Adams stressed: "Today's decision is not final."

Wrestling, which combines freestyle and Greco-Roman events, was included in the inaugural modern Olympics in Athens in 1896.

It has been in every Games since then, apart from Paris in 1900. At last year's Olympics, it featured 344 athletes competing in 11 medal events.

Despite Tuesday's news, Nicholson said Great Britain would not lose focus in the next Olympics in Rio de Janeiro.

"We will be looking to deliver success in 2016," he said. "We have two athletes who we believe are genuine medal contenders."

Nicholson also pointed out that wrestling remains part of the Commonwealth Games.

"We are fortunate that we are a Commonwealth sport so our athletes will continue aspiring towards 2014 and 2018," he said.

"In the meantime, we will remain hopeful that the IOC may give wrestling another chance to remain part of the Games."

Before making its decision, the IOC's programme commission assessed each sport by looking at such factors as TV ratings, ticket sales, anti-doping and global popularity.

Klaus Schormann, president of modern pentathlon's governing body, said he had lobbied hard to protect his sport's Olympic status.

"We have promised things and we have delivered," he said. "That gives me a great feeling. It also gives me new energy to develop our sport further and never give up."

GB Modern Pentathlon chief executive, Jon Archer, expressed relief at the news that his sport had been spared.

"Olympic inclusion is absolutely essential to our sport," he said. "It is at the centre of everything we do. We can relax now and work to continually modernise the sport and raise awareness."

Golf and rugby sevens will be part of the programme for the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro after winning inclusion in 2010.

The IOC will also decide in September whether Istanbul, Madrid or Tokyo will host the 2020 Games.

Quote from: Liep on February 12, 2013, 09:13:15 AM
I won't miss it.

Quote from: sbr on February 12, 2013, 09:47:40 AM
Wtf is wushu?

Quote from: Syt on February 12, 2013, 08:55:04 AM
I'm torn. While I appreciate that the IOC tries to keep the events flexible to keep the public interested in the Olympic Games (there's plenty sports that were Olympic and are not really missed, esp. from the pre-WW1 time), it seems just plain wrong to abolish a discipline with such an old history and tradition.

Quote from: Syt on February 12, 2013, 08:55:04 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/21427455

QuoteWrestling dropped from 2020 Olympic Games

Wrestling has been dropped from the 2020 Games to make way for a new sport.

The International Olympic Committee's executive board made its decision after assessing the performance of all 26 sports at the London Games.

"The news from the IOC is extremely disappointing," said British Wrestling chief executive Colin Nicholson.

There is a slim chance wrestling may win a reprieve when the IOC meets in Buenos Aires in September to ratify its choice.

But it will be vying with seven other sports, among them squash, roller sports and sport climbing, that are hoping for inclusion in the Olympic programme.

Modern pentathlon and taekwondo were thought to be the sports most at risk when the IOC committee met in Lausanne, Switzerland on Tuesday, but wrestling was the surprise choice for the axe.

It will now compete with baseball/softball, squash, karate, sport climbing, wakeboarding, wushu and roller sports for a place in the 2020 Games.

"This is not the end of the process, this is purely a recommendation," said IOC spokesman Mark Adams. "This is not about what's wrong with wrestling but what is good for the Games."

It is extremely unlikely that wrestling will be voted back in so soon after being removed by the executive board, but Adams stressed: "Today's decision is not final."

Wrestling, which combines freestyle and Greco-Roman events, was included in the inaugural modern Olympics in Athens in 1896.

It has been in every Games since then, apart from Paris in 1900. At last year's Olympics, it featured 344 athletes competing in 11 medal events.

Despite Tuesday's news, Nicholson said Great Britain would not lose focus in the next Olympics in Rio de Janeiro.

"We will be looking to deliver success in 2016," he said. "We have two athletes who we believe are genuine medal contenders."

Nicholson also pointed out that wrestling remains part of the Commonwealth Games.

"We are fortunate that we are a Commonwealth sport so our athletes will continue aspiring towards 2014 and 2018," he said.

"In the meantime, we will remain hopeful that the IOC may give wrestling another chance to remain part of the Games."

Before making its decision, the IOC's programme commission assessed each sport by looking at such factors as TV ratings, ticket sales, anti-doping and global popularity.

Klaus Schormann, president of modern pentathlon's governing body, said he had lobbied hard to protect his sport's Olympic status.

"We have promised things and we have delivered," he said. "That gives me a great feeling. It also gives me new energy to develop our sport further and never give up."

GB Modern Pentathlon chief executive, Jon Archer, expressed relief at the news that his sport had been spared.

"Olympic inclusion is absolutely essential to our sport," he said. "It is at the centre of everything we do. We can relax now and work to continually modernise the sport and raise awareness."

Golf and rugby sevens will be part of the programme for the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro after winning inclusion in 2010.

The IOC will also decide in September whether Istanbul, Madrid or Tokyo will host the 2020 Games.

I'm torn. While I appreciate that the IOC tries to keep the events flexible to keep the public interested in the Olympic Games (there's plenty sports that were Olympic and are not really missed, esp. from the pre-WW1 time), it seems just plain wrong to abolish a discipline with such an old history and tradition.

Quote from: The Larch on February 12, 2013, 10:25:21 AM
If they bring Pankration back...

QuoteIn an odd turn of events, a pankration fighter named Arrhichion (Ἀρριχίων) of Phigalia won the pankration competition at the Olympic Games despite being dead. His opponent had locked him in a chokehold and Arrhichion, desperate to loosen it, broke his opponent's toe (some records say his ankle). The opponent nearly passed out from pain and submitted. As the referee raised Arrhichion's hand, it was discovered that he had died from the chokehold. His body was crowned with the olive wreath and taken back to Phigaleia as a hero.

Quote from: Barrister on April 06, 2013, 06:55:44 PM
Globalisation is awesome. I'm watching the World Curling Championship in Brazil! :w00t:

Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2013, 04:41:48 PM
The Danes just about got a world men's curling bronze.  That's far more interesting than cycling, wouldn't you say?

Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2013, 04:41:48 PM
The Danes just about got a world men's curling bronze.  That's far more interesting than cycling, wouldn't you say?

Quote from: Liep on April 07, 2013, 09:18:55 AM
Cancellara wins, what a sneaky fuck.

Quote from: Liep on April 07, 2013, 05:53:48 PM

Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2013, 04:41:48 PM
The Danes just about got a world men's curling bronze.  That's far more interesting than cycling, wouldn't you say?

Not really, no.

Quote from: Neil on April 08, 2013, 07:59:21 AM
Curling is a sport of skill, strategy and endurance.  Cycling is a sport that measures how good your drugs are.

Quote from: Liep on April 08, 2013, 08:21:00 AM

Quote from: Neil on April 08, 2013, 07:59:21 AM
Curling is a sport of skill, strategy and endurance.  Cycling is a sport that measures how good your drugs are.

Cancellara wasn't necessarily the strongest yesterday, although surely the best drugged. He won simply by keeping his cool and outsmarting his opponent.

Quote from: Neil on April 13, 2013, 07:41:35 AM
Hey, cricket is on TV.  Gonna watch me some IPL.

Quote from: mongers on April 13, 2013, 07:49:10 AM

Quote from: Neil on April 13, 2013, 07:41:35 AM
Hey, cricket is on TV.  Gonna watch me some IPL.

Ah, that explains the mild but suddenly wet weather, the cricket season began here on Wednesday.  :bowler:

Quote from: Liep on May 25, 2013, 05:19:12 PM
Froch vs. Kessler is about to start. Boxing is one of those sports I'll never learn to appreciate. I am however still a little intrigued.

Quote from: Liep on June 22, 2013, 11:06:23 AM
Holy shit. Danish driver Allan Simonsen has died after a crash 10 minutes into the race. :(

Quote from: Liep on June 24, 2013, 11:18:58 AM
Of course, some pay-per-view channel secured the rights to Wimbledon this year. I like tennis, but not enough to pay $50 to watch a few games.

Quote from: Liep on November 22, 2013, 06:20:15 PM
Magnus Carlsen has won the world championship in chess. Norway swiftly goes mental; NRK cancels a showing of cross-country skiing to celebrate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25057654

Does of the resident Norwegian have a video link with commentary? One of my favourite Norwegian things is Norwegian commentators when they win.

Quote from: Liep on March 11, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
The way the Danish media is hyping Kevin Magnussen he can only end up failing spectacularly, perhaps even going off track in the first lap in Australia.

Quote from: Liep on June 06, 2014, 05:37:31 AM
Wiggins dumped by Team Sky. :o I hope Froome crashes out in the first stage. :angry:

Quote from: Liep on June 07, 2014, 06:32:15 AM
Riis offered Froome a contract in 2011, but Froome declined because for the contract talks Riis had invited him and his father to a night club. :lol:

Quote from: Caliga on June 07, 2014, 05:26:23 PM
Good luck California Chrome. :cool:

Quote from: sbr on June 07, 2014, 07:18:34 PM


Maria Sharapova won the French Open though. :perv:

Quote from: alfred russel on June 07, 2014, 07:30:57 PM
What a stupid sport.

Quote from: Caliga on June 07, 2014, 08:44:25 PM
:mad:  Maligning horse racing is the same as maligning Kentucky.  You're not to do that again, sirrah.

Quote from: Caliga on June 07, 2014, 10:16:49 PM
How can you start ticking off great Kentucky athletes and not mention Muhammad Ali first? :huh:

Quote from: Liep on July 28, 2014, 07:00:51 AM

New front runner has to learn the robes:
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Quote from: Liep on July 28, 2014, 07:00:51 AM

New front runner has to learn the robes:
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Quote from: Liep on September 07, 2014, 03:33:38 PM
Caro vs. Serena in the US Open final. Will the Polish born resident of Monaco win her first Grand Slam and bring glory to the nation of DENMARK? No, probably not.

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 16, 2015, 02:34:24 PM
Is that handball?

Quote from: Liep on January 16, 2015, 02:31:36 PM
This is what you get when you let Qatar buy world cups for sports they know nothing about. Empty stadiums.

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Quote from: Syt on January 16, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
:bleeding:

You'd think they'd have the money to pay people to go to the games and just cheer for whatever.

Quote from: Syt on January 28, 2015, 11:22:55 AM
In Germany, the matches are only shown on pay TV, so while handball is a popular sport, most people won't be able to watch live.

Quote from: Liep on January 24, 2015, 08:49:01 AM
I'm watching snow mobile long jump from the X-Games. So American.

QuoteOn 22 May 1965, Arneil became the first person to complete the 100-man kumite after Oyama himself. The 100-man kumite took him around 2 hours and 45 minutes to complete, with each round scheduled to take 1 minute and 30 seconds (but a round ended if he managed to knock down his opponent).

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2015, 08:27:21 PM
Some 21 year old kid named Jordan Spieth won the Masters today.  He tied Tiger's record of 18 under.

QuoteFrance swimmer Amaury Leveaux sparks fury with cocaine claims

By Hugh Schofield
BBC News, Paris


22 April 2015

From the section Europe

A French Olympic swimming champion has caused fury among the sport's authorities after claiming that his colleagues on the national side regularly take cocaine.

Amaury Leveaux, who won gold in the 100m relay at the 2012 London Olympics, makes his allegation in an autobiography published on Wednesday.

Entitled Sex, Drugs and Swimming, it purports to offer an unsavoury behind-the-scenes glimpse at the world of competitive swimming.

In a chapter dealing with drug use, Leveaux says that top French swimming stars regularly snort cocaine, mainly - but not only - for fun.

"Some of us wouldn't spit at a little line of coke from time to time. For others it's not just a little line, it's a complete motorway covered in white powder which they zoom down at top speed," he writes.

"And then let's not be coy - cocaine is a doping agent. It is the kind of happy drug which gives you the feeling of being invincible and never tired - pushing back your limits and transforming you into a warrior ready for anything."

'Disgusted'

He says on one occasion during the Olympics a trainer came to their rooms and warned them that an anti-doping test would take place the next day.

"He specifically mentioned cocaine as one to avoid. I found that strange."

Leveaux also describes an incident at the London Games, where one of the French swimmers - he does not give the name - left a nightclub in the company of the establishment's female press officer.

"Later that night he sent me a text saying I should come round to the girl's flat - and that's where I found him lying on top of her and sniffing a line of coke from between her breasts," he writes.

The French Swimming Federation (FNF) has reacted with outrage to Leveaux's claims, with vice-president Lucien Gastaldello saying the swimmer had "shot himself in the foot" and should now repay his debts to the federation.

"Everyone is disgusted by his attitude," said Gastaldello. "He was going to do television commentaries on some forthcoming events. He can forget that. Who would speak to him now?"

Leveaux - who comes from a modest background in the eastern city of Belfort - reserves some of his strongest criticism for members of the elite Marseille Swimming Club, who have dominated the sport in France in recent years . They are, he writes, "pretty boys with big heads".

He also lays into the sport's governing body, describing the FNF as "dinosaurs" who have brought "Nothing with a capital N" to swimming.

"They squeeze swimmers like lemons and then chuck them into the rubbish bin when they are through."

Anti-doping inspections

Le Monde's sports correspondent Henri Seckel said the book's sensational title was a bit of an oversell and that he wanted more on what really would have "broken the code of silence in swimming" - i.e. the facts on performance-enhancing drug use.

Leveaux makes some allusions to this, but never directly.

He mentions a Russian female swimmer who he says "went back home from time to time to get testosterone injections."

He says this Russian swimmer explained to him how her team escaped anti-doping inspections.

"Every swimmer had a 'double' who had the same name on his or her passport. It was this double, who was based in the same hotel room.... that was tested after the event - without the officials ever noticing," he writes.

Leveaux, who retired in 2013, has four Olympic medals in all, and still holds the world record for 100m freestyle (short course). In the 2008 Olympics he was pipped to gold in the 50m freestyle by Brazil's Cesar Cielo, who in 2011 failed a doping test.

In the book he compares Cielo to Lance Armstrong, and in a pre-launch interview with L'Equipe magazine adds: "For cheats and paedophiles, it's the same: a bullet in the head."

While on the national team, Leveaux enjoyed a mildly 'bad boy' reputation, but he denied the book is motivated by jealousy of his more glamorous team-mates, such as Alain Bernard or Yannick Agnel.

Quote from: Liep on May 02, 2015, 05:45:28 PM
Anyone going to watch the match tonight. They say here that it's the match of the century, but I have to admit I hadn't heard about any of the two fighters before this week. I guess I haven't been watching boxing since the best Dane was Brian Nielsen and Mike Tyson was still the shit.

Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2015, 06:54:55 PM
American Pharaoh won the Triple Crown!!!  :w00t: :worthy:

Quote from: Valmy on June 06, 2015, 07:11:35 PM
Wait there are still Egyptian Jews around?

Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2015, 06:54:55 PM
American Pharaoh won the Triple Crown!!!  :w00t: :worthy:

Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2015, 07:08:04 PM
It's a huge deal here.  People are setting off fireworks and everything given how important horse racing is to this town.

Kinda neat that the horse's name is American Pharaoh but it's owned by an Egyptian Jew. :)

QuoteAmerican Pharoah's name is inspired by that of his sire, Pioneerof the Nile, and his dam's sire, Yankee Gentleman.[20] The horse's name also acknowledges Zayat's own dual Egyptian-American background.[21] The misspelling of "Pharaoh" is permanent, but inadvertent. Zayat originally claimed that the spelling was the result of an error by The Jockey Club, but the organization's president stated, "The name request for the 2012 colt American Pharoah was submitted electronically on January 25, 2014, through The Jockey Club's interactive registration site. Since the name met all of the criteria for naming and was available, it was granted exactly as it was spelled on the digital name application." Zayat later retracted his statement.[22][d]

Zayat's wife, Joanne, offered another explanation for the name's origins to a local news reporter just before the Preakness. Zayat's son, Justin, ran a contest on social media in which fans could submit names for the horse. The winning entry had "Pharaoh" misspelled, she said. "Justin cut and pasted the name from [the winner's] email, and sent it to the Jockey Club."[23][24] Marsha Baumgartner of Barnett, Missouri, who submitted the winning entry, told The New York Times, "I don't want to assign blame," but "I looked up the spelling before I entered." Nonetheless, Baumgartner minimized the controversy, stating, "Horses can't spell, anyway."[20][e]

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 07, 2015, 01:08:17 PM
That's awesome.  Last horse was who, Seattle Slew?

Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
Did you know that the 1st European Games with 6,000 athletes start today? I didn't. Yay, Baku? :unsure:

http://www.baku2015.com/

Quote from: Grey Fox on June 12, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
If he can get thru Drummer Boy first.

And also when both join the Al Ayman UFC/FOM style boxing company.

Quote from: Liep on June 12, 2015, 10:20:55 AM

Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
Did you know that the 1st European Games with 6,000 athletes start today? I didn't. Yay, Baku? :unsure:

http://www.baku2015.com/

Yeah, I heard a radio spot for the live transmission, even the speaker couldn't find any enthusiasm.

Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2015, 11:17:21 AM

Quote from: Liep on June 12, 2015, 10:20:55 AM

Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
Did you know that the 1st European Games with 6,000 athletes start today? I didn't. Yay, Baku? :unsure:

http://www.baku2015.com/

Yeah, I heard a radio spot for the live transmission, even the speaker couldn't find any enthusiasm.

It's as if you guys went out and recreated all the excitement of the Pan Am Games, but for Europe.

Quote from: Liep on June 12, 2015, 12:10:45 PM

Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2015, 11:17:21 AM

Quote from: Liep on June 12, 2015, 10:20:55 AM

Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
Did you know that the 1st European Games with 6,000 athletes start today? I didn't. Yay, Baku? :unsure:

http://www.baku2015.com/

Yeah, I heard a radio spot for the live transmission, even the speaker couldn't find any enthusiasm.

It's as if you guys went out and recreated all the excitement of the Pan Am Games, but for Europe.

The reference works because I have never heard of the Pan Am Games. :yes:

Quote from: Valmy on June 12, 2015, 10:57:41 AM
39 versus 29 is worrying. Nobody wanted to see Ali versus Larry Holmes.

Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2015, 04:41:02 AM
Azerbaijan spent 10 billion dollars for the European games. Maybe a bit steep.

Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2015, 05:07:26 AM
And on top of that they prioritise table tennis and triathlon above one of the world's most beautiful sports. :glare:

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 13, 2015, 05:32:30 AM

Quote from: Liep on June 13, 2015, 05:07:26 AM
And on top of that they prioritise table tennis and triathlon above one of the world's most beautiful sports. :glare:

Synchronized swimming? Equestrian? Golf?

Quote from: Syt on August 25, 2015, 07:07:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-YHw1sqjL8

Quote from: Liep on August 25, 2015, 07:15:35 AM

Quote from: Syt on August 25, 2015, 07:07:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-YHw1sqjL8

That comforts me. Also added to my Watchlist on imdb.com.

Quote from: Brazen on August 27, 2015, 10:03:54 AM
Gatlin couldn't take Bolt down in the 200m. Take one cameraman on a Segway though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meBu7axYp3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meBu7axYp3o)

Quote from: The Larch on August 25, 2015, 09:11:48 AM

Quote from: Liep on August 25, 2015, 07:15:35 AM

Quote from: Syt on August 25, 2015, 07:07:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-YHw1sqjL8

That comforts me. Also added to my Watchlist on imdb.com.

You have not watched Top Secret!?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJISTV6UEAERwqU.jpg)

Quote from: The Larch on August 28, 2015, 09:13:49 AM
If you're a leg/ass guy, long jump and high jump is where it's at for women's athletics. That and voleyball are the key sporting events if you're of that persuasion.

Quote from: Brezel on August 29, 2015, 05:52:07 AM
High jumpers are thin and bony

Quote from: Liep on August 29, 2015, 07:44:50 AM
The 100x4 women's relay entry is amazing.

Quote from: The Brain on August 29, 2015, 12:41:00 PM

Quote from: Liep on August 29, 2015, 07:44:50 AM
The 100x4 women's relay entry is amazing.

How do you convince a chick to do relay entry? :(

Quote from: Liep on August 29, 2015, 07:48:12 AM
Goddamn Schippers is fast.

QuoteEurostar: How German Native and Top Twins Prospect Max Kepler Can Help Baseball Continue to Go Global

Quote from: The Larch on September 23, 2015, 10:42:09 AM
Hey Syt, apparently there's a German kid currently playing at the MLB.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-max-kepler-minnesota-twins-european-reach/?ex_cid=GrantlandFB (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-max-kepler-minnesota-twins-european-reach/?ex_cid=GrantlandFB)

QuoteEurostar: How German Native and Top Twins Prospect Max Kepler Can Help Baseball Continue to Go Global

Take a look at the article, I find funny how delusional they are about the prospect of baseball catching on in Europe.  :lol:

Quote from: Valmy on September 23, 2015, 10:46:28 AM
Europeans are incapable of following more than one sport. It is known.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 07, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
No clue what you're talking about.

Quote from: Liep on November 09, 2015, 09:28:48 AM
World's Anti-Doping Agency recommends in its report that Russia be barred from any future athletic competition because of systemic corruption and doping. :o

Quote from: Syt on November 09, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
Clearly this is a campaign by US and their Western lapdogs to discredit the brave Russian athletes.  :mad:

QuoteRussia accused of 'state-sponsored doping' as Wada calls for athletics ban

• London Olympics were 'sabotaged' by 'widespread inaction'
• Interpol to investigate 'alleged global doping corruption scam'

Russia has been accused of having a huge "state-sponsored doping programme" by an independent commission that could see the country kicked out of athletics and potentially the Rio 2016 Olympics.

The former president of the World Anti-Doping Agency, Dick Pound, who chaired an independent commission convened to look into allegations of systemic doping made by German media 11 months ago, said the "very damaging" findings were probably the tip of the iceberg. The widespread rule-breaking, he said, was "worse than we thought".

The Wada commission said there was evidence of "interference with doping controls up to the middle of this year" including more than 1,400 samples destroyed in December last year, as well as "cover-ups, destruction of samples, payment of money to conceal doping tests". It found that the head of its Moscow anti-doping lab Grigory Rodchenko admitted to intentionally destroying 1,417 samples. The report says that the lab, the only Wada accredited one in Russia, should lose its accreditation.

The 323-page report found the London 2012 Olympics were "sabotaged" by the "widespread inaction" against Russian athletes with suspicious doping profiles, by the world athletics governing body the IAAF and the Russian federation.

It outlines a culture of cheating in which Pound said Russian coaches were "out of control" and expected the Russian anti-doping agency to protect their athletes rather than catch them.

It recommended that five middle-distance runners and five coaches be given lifetime doping bans. Two of the athletes are the gold and bronze-medal winners in the 800 metres in 2012, the Olympic champion Mariya Savinova and the bronze medalist Ekaterina Poistogova.

The others are Anastasiya Bazdyreva, a 400m and 800m runner, Kristina Ugarova, a 1500m runner, and Tatjana Myazina, an 800m runner.

Pound said it was inconceivable that the Russian sports minister, Vitaly Mutko, was not aware of the scale of the problem. "It was impossible for him not to be aware of it. And if he's aware of it, he's complicit in it," said Pound. Mutko, who leads the 2018 football World Cup organising committee, denied wrongdoing to the Wada inquiry panel, including any knowledge of athletes being blackmailed.

A number of Russian athletes suspected of doping could have been prevented from competing in 2012 had it not been for "the collective and inexplicable laissez-faire policy" adopted by the IAAF and the Russian federation.

The commission said it had identified "systemic failures" within IAAF and the Russian athletics federation that "prevent or diminish the possibility of an effective anti-doping programme". Pound said the commission had found "payments of money to conceal doping tests".

Asked whether the findings were simply "the tip of the iceberg", Pound replied: "I'm afraid you're probably right. We don't think Russia is the only country with a doping problem and athletics is not the only sport with a doping problem."

French police last week arrested Diack, the IAAF legal adviser Habib Cissé and Gabriel Dollé, the former longstanding head of the IAAF's anti-doping unit. Prosecutors said they would have arrested Diack's son and former IAAF marketing consultant, Papa Massata Diack, if he had been in France at the time.

Diack, the IAAF president for 16 years, is accused by French police of accepting more than €1m in exchange for covering up positive drug tests. He has yet to comment. The IOC said that Diack should be provisionally suspended as an honorary member of the International Olympics Committee.

Pound said he was holding back parts of the report pending the French investigation into IAAF officials but hoped to release more details by the end of the year. "This report also identifies corruption and bribery practices at the highest levels of international athletics, evidence of which has been transmitted to Interpol for appropriate investigation," it said. Interpol announced that it was conducting an ongoing investigation into the "alleged global doping corruption scam".

Wada's foundation board will meet next week in Colorado Springs and has been urged by Pound to declare the Russian laboratory and anti-doping agency non-compliant. Pound said the IAAF should stop Russia from competing until it was completely rehabilitated.

"That is your nuclear weapon. Either get this done or you are not going to Rio. The embarrassment will be such that you're going to get it done. The idea is to get people competing under the right conditions," said Pound.

The former Wada president, one of three independent commissioners who investigated the allegations of systemic doping and cover-ups, was also critical of the role of the organisation he once led. "It's a pretty damning indictment of what has not been done and points the way to things that can be done if we're going to get serious about this. At some point the Olympic movement and the governments have to say: 'Are we going to do this properly or shall we all go home?'" he said.

Pound said that while its investigation was limited to Russia and athletics, the problems of systemic doping were wider.

The investigation was prompted when the German television station ARD implicated officials in Russia's athletics federation, anti-doping agency (Rusada) and the Wada-accredited laboratory in Moscow in acts of bribery to hush up positive doping tests, falsify tests and supply banned drugs.

Pound drew Kenya into the orbit of suspicion when he said: "It seems pretty clear from both the ARD programme and subsequent developments that Kenya has a real problem. It has been very slow to acknowledge there is a problem," he said. "There is apparently some investigation going on as we speak. If they don't do a good job then someone else will do a job for them."

Lord Coe, the IAAF president, said on Sunday that he was minded to try and rehabilitate Russia within the system but would "never say never" when it came to suspending a country. On Monday, Coe said the report was "alarming".

"We need time to properly digest and understand the detailed findings included in the report. However, I have urged the council to start the process of considering sanctions against ARAF [Russian Athletics Federation]. This step has not been taken lightly," he said.

"Our athletes, partners and fans have my total assurance that where there are failures in our governance or our anti-doping programmes we will fix them. We will do whatever it takes to protect the clean athletes and rebuild trust in our sport. The IAAF will continue to offer the police authorities our full co-operation into their ongoing investigation."

QuoteAthletics doping: Russia provisionally suspended by IAAF

Russia's athletics federation has been provisionally suspended from international competition - including the Olympic Games - for its alleged involvement in widespread doping.

The IAAF took action after the publication of an independent World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) report that alleged "state-sponsored doping".

Its council members voted 22-1 in favour of Russia being banned.

"This is a wake-up call for all of us," said IAAF president Lord Coe.

He told BBC Sport: "Our sport finds itself in a shameful situation.

"I am wholly focused on the changes that need to be made. I have openly conceded that we need to learn some very tough lessons.

"We need to look at ourselves, within our sport, and we will do that."

Russia's Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko said the suspension was "temporary" and the "problem is solvable".

The country's IAAF council member was not allowed to participate in Friday's vote.

Quote from: Valmy on November 09, 2015, 10:35:49 AM

Quote from: Syt on November 09, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
Clearly this is a campaign by US and their Western lapdogs to discredit the brave Russian athletes.  :mad:

Oh no doubt this will be blamed on us. Because we totally give a shit about any sports Russians play.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2015, 05:52:29 AM
Hockey?

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 14, 2015, 05:52:29 AM

Quote from: Valmy on November 09, 2015, 10:35:49 AM

Quote from: Syt on November 09, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
Clearly this is a campaign by US and their Western lapdogs to discredit the brave Russian athletes.  :mad:

Oh no doubt this will be blamed on us. Because we totally give a shit about any sports Russians play.

Hockey?

Quote from: Liep on November 30, 2015, 05:25:58 AM
Wait. No oil states? Well, we now know that all countries have deeply corrupt Olympic committees so it's going to be hard to predict.

Quote from: Liep on December 10, 2015, 09:23:51 AM
New jersey's for Tinkoff's team

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV2z2rCWsAAyayO.jpg)

Quote from: Liep on January 16, 2016, 04:25:49 PM
No one started a thread about the European Handball Championship in Poland that began yesterday? :huh: Anyhoo, Denmark thrashed the Russians! :w00t:

Quote from: Syt on January 30, 2016, 06:27:56 AMAlso, German handball team is in European Championship final. :)

Quote from: Maladict on January 30, 2016, 05:11:24 PM
A hidden motor was discovered in the bike of the female U23 European champion.

Quote from: mongers on January 30, 2016, 06:11:48 PM

Quote from: Maladict on January 30, 2016, 05:11:24 PM
A hidden motor was discovered in the bike of the female U23 European champion.

W.T.F.  :mad:

Quote from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-confirms-motorised-doping-uncovered-at-cyclo-cross-world-championships/UCI confirms motorised doping uncovered at cyclo-cross World Championships

UCI President Brian Cookson has confirmed that the governing body found evidence of a motor in a bike at the cyclo-cross World Championships on Saturday. Following the under 23 women's race on Saturday, the UCI issued a press release stating that they were investigating a rider's bike for possible "technological fraud."

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Reports in the Belgian press, including race broadcaster Sporza, revealed the rider as Femke Van den Driessche (Team Kleur op Maat) and that a motor had been found inside the frame of the bike.

"It is no secret that a motor was found," Cookson said during a press conference held ahead of Sunday's racing programme in Zolder. "We believe that it was indeed technological doping."

Motorised doping has been a topic of discussion since 2010. The regulations on technological doping were brought in last January and could see a rider given a minimum suspension of six months and a fine of anything between 20,000 and 200,000 Swiss Francs. The UCI had introduced bike checks for the World Championships, the same as those that have been done in road racing over the past season.

"Throughout the 2015 season, we carried out unannounced bike checks at major road events and we will conduct similar controls throughout the 2016 season," the UCI tweeted Cookson as saying during the press conference. "We have introduced in 2015 a set of Regulations that enables us to take action

"We've been trialling new methods of detection but you'll understand why I don't want to go into details of those methods."

Van den Driessche had been taking part in the inaugural under 23 women's event, which was won by Britain's Evie Richards. The Belgian and European under 23 champion had gone in as a pre-race favourite but did not feature at the front. She was eventually forced off her bike on the final lap when she was struck by mechanical problems and ended up walking with her bike.

Van den Driessche's bike was taken for inspection along with several other bikes after the race. It quickly became apparent that something was wrong with her bike and news of the discovery quickly spread; however it is only this Sunday morning that they revealed their discovery. It gives Van den Driessche the dubious honour of being the first rider to be discovered to be using a motor. Incidentally, Van den Driessche's brother Niels is currently suspended for doping.

Following the press conference, Cookson later tweeted his thoughts. "Technological fraud is unacceptable. We want the minority who may consider cheating to know that, increasingly," he wrote. "There is no place to hide, and sooner or later they will pay for the damage they're causing to our sport."

He also issued a defiant message to anyone considering using a motor in the future. "To all the people who want to cheat, yesterday we sent a clear message: we will catch you and we will punish you because our technology to detect such fraud seems to work," he said according to Sporza.

The bike checks will continue into Sunday's races where the under 23 and elite men will be competing.

Quote from: Liep on January 31, 2016, 08:59:34 AM
If someone tried to do this at a cyclo-cross event I'm sure many have done it for a road event. The conspiracist in me thinks they only publicised this because the mechanical problems obviously related to a motor of some kind and that many spectators saw it forcing UCI's hand.

Quote from: Syt on January 30, 2016, 06:27:56 AM
Also, German handball team is in European Championship final. :)

Quote from: Maladict on January 31, 2016, 05:35:47 AM

Quote from: mongers on January 30, 2016, 06:11:48 PM

Quote from: Maladict on January 30, 2016, 05:11:24 PM
A hidden motor was discovered in the bike of the female U23 European champion.

W.T.F.  :mad:

Yeah, it's unbelievable this happened. The sport is still rotten to the core it seems.   :(
I find it hard to believe a 19 year old was the driving force behind this, though.

Quote from: Savonarola on April 08, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
Oh you wacky... :unsure: uhm... :unsure: pejorative and/or slang term for people from Connecticut.

Quote from: Liep on July 02, 2016, 11:02:00 AM
Danish rider Annika Langvad won the World Championship in mountain biking! In other less exciting cycling news, Cavendish won the Yellow Jersey on the first stage of the Tour de France.

Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2016, 06:59:21 AM
Back in the time, I used to follow TdF obsessively. Now it happens without even me noticing it. All the drug scandals really destroyed my interest for the sport.

Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2016, 06:59:21 AM
Back in the time, I used to follow TdF obsessively. Now it happens without even me noticing it. All the drug scandals really destroyed my interest for the sport.

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 03, 2016, 07:20:28 AM

Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2016, 06:59:21 AM
Back in the time, I used to follow TdF obsessively. Now it happens without even me noticing it. All the drug scandals really destroyed my interest for the sport.

To be fair, if other sports were as well tested for doping as cycling there would be lots of surprises...

PS: I am no fan of cycling. Tour de France always bored me though I known some names since it's a major sport.

Quote from: Liep on July 07, 2016, 10:42:36 AM
Cav keeps winning. Pretty impressive sprinting from the little Brit.

Quote from: Liep on July 08, 2016, 10:11:13 AM
The Brits keep winning, today it was Cummings.

Quote from: Valmy on July 11, 2016, 01:59:07 PM
I think it is fair to say we have reached a critical mass of Indians and Pakistanis in Austin, Texas. A tipping point, if you will, has been reached.

http://hcca-austincricket.com/

I have seen them playing at Mayfield Park almost every time I go there.

Quote from: mongers on July 11, 2016, 02:05:40 PM

Quote from: Valmy on July 11, 2016, 01:59:07 PM
I think it is fair to say we have reached a critical mass of Indians and Pakistanis in Austin, Texas. A tipping point, if you will, has been reached.

http://hcca-austincricket.com/

I have seen them playing at Mayfield Park almost every time I go there.

:cool:

It's a great social game, Valmy you should have a go.

Quote from: Barrister on July 11, 2016, 02:07:29 PM

I'm sure it's a fine game.  But in north america it's pretty much exclusively a south asian game.

Quote from: Liep on July 13, 2016, 10:16:32 AM
Froome is acting very non-Froome like this year. I like it. Crazy downhill driving, adventurous side wind attacks. Today's win by Sagan was spectacular and it was in part Froome's doing.

QuoteRussian athlete Darya Klishina has been widely criticised after she agreed to compete under a neutral flag at next month's Olympics, a move which could make her one of Russia's only track-and-field athletes not banned due to a national doping scandal.

Social media denounced the long jumper as a "traitor" after she thanked her sponsors and coaches for their support and expressed gratitude to the International Association of Athletics Federation (IAAF) for allowing her to compete.

Quote from: Liep on July 14, 2016, 10:29:51 AM
That was the craziest finish to a stage I've ever seen. From the moment the camera caught Froome running up Mont Ventoux sans bicycle to him crossing the line I just watched in disbelief.

Quote from: Liep on July 14, 2016, 04:29:07 PM
I wonder what Mavis gets out of this, every time a rider has to settle for their service we get a long take on how slow the change is, or how it doesn't work at all. I'll never forget Voigt yelling and swearing after a bad wheel change from the neutral motorbike.

Quote
Deontay Wilder TKO8 Chris Arreola

Retains a heavyweight title
Records: Wilder (37-0, 36 KOs); Arreola (36-5-1, 31 KOs)

Rafael's remarks: Wilder, one of boxing's most destructive punchers, did big damage to Arreola with his power but also to himself. Making his fourth title defense, and doing so in front of a hometown crowd of 11,974 at Legacy Arena, Wilder not only busted Arreola up, knocked him down in the fourth round and nearly stopped him in the final seconds of the round, but he hits so hard that he also broke his right hand for at least the third time.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 28, 2016, 12:14:38 AM
Michelle Wie's bizarro putting stance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl7Fh8gwTTU

Quote from: Liep on September 11, 2016, 02:36:02 PM
Cort won two stages in the Vuelta including the final in Madrid. We have a sprinter. :o :yeah: :o

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 11, 2016, 06:21:54 PM
Watched a little bit of bull riding.  Don't know if it was the particular bulls, but guys were getting the living shit kicked out of them.  Might as well lie on the ground while somebody whales on you with a baseball bat.

Also interesting that there were two Brazilians competing (one of whom won).

Quote from: PDH on September 11, 2016, 08:55:26 PM

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 11, 2016, 06:21:54 PM
Watched a little bit of bull riding.  Don't know if it was the particular bulls, but guys were getting the living shit kicked out of them.  Might as well lie on the ground while somebody whales on you with a baseball bat.

Also interesting that there were two Brazilians competing (one of whom won).

Interesting note:  the injuries found on stone age hunters, especially Neanderthals, are most consistent with professional bull riders.  Running up and stabbing a mastadon must have been quite a rough experience.

Quote from: Syt on October 14, 2016, 07:21:02 AM
Considering we have some cyclining enthusiasts here: what do you guys think of the World Championships being held in Doha at the moment?

http://www.dohacycling2016.com/

Austrian athletes complain about almost no audience and it generally being the most boring WC. There's hardly anyone along the road race tracks, for example - with temperatures of about up to 60°C above the asphalt.

Quote from: Liep on October 15, 2016, 09:34:50 AM
Watching the Kabaddi World Cup from India... it's different but interesting.

The Indian ref just shouted "HET EH TEL" into the face of the Japanese captain. This went on 6 or 7 times with increasing volume before the Japanese noticed the coin in the ref's hand and said head.

Quote from: Liep on October 15, 2016, 09:56:09 AM
Amalie Dideriksen wins the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP in cycling! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :yeah:

Quote from: Liep on October 15, 2016, 09:34:50 AM
Watching the Kabaddi World Cup from India... it's different but interesting.

The Indian ref just shouted "HET EH TEL" into the face of the Japanese captain. This went on 6 or 7 times with increasing volume before the Japanese noticed the coin in the ref's hand and said head.

Quote from: Tyr on October 15, 2016, 02:52:02 PM

Quote from: Liep on October 15, 2016, 09:34:50 AM
Watching the Kabaddi World Cup from India... it's different but interesting.

The Indian ref just shouted "HET EH TEL" into the face of the Japanese captain. This went on 6 or 7 times with increasing volume before the Japanese noticed the coin in the ref's hand and said head.

What an odd sport :hmm:

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 16, 2017, 02:47:25 AM
So what's happening with you Liep? No comment about the Handball world championship tournament going right now in France? I mean, Denmark is qualified.  :P
Quite a media barrage here, though games are on a sports pay tv, held by a qatari firm no less.

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 28, 2017, 09:08:14 AM
Very few comments by Liep about the handball tournament this time.  :P
Tomorrow is the final: France-Norway.

Quote from: Liep on February 05, 2017, 08:46:51 AM

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 28, 2017, 09:08:14 AM
Very few comments by Liep about the handball tournament this time.  :P
Tomorrow is the final: France-Norway.

For no reason I'd just like to remind everyone that Denmark holds both the road and mountain bike world championships for women.

Quote from: Maladict on May 20, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Tom Dumoulin just kicked Quintana's ass on the Oropa  :cool:

Quote from: mongers on May 20, 2017, 04:37:21 PM

Quote from: Maladict on May 20, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Tom Dumoulin just kicked Quintana's ass on the Oropa  :cool:

:cool:

He added a lot of spice to last years grand tours, so looking forward to his efforts his year.

How did I miss the coverage.  :(

Quote from: Maladict on May 23, 2017, 09:23:36 AM

Quote from: mongers on May 20, 2017, 04:37:21 PM

Quote from: Maladict on May 20, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Tom Dumoulin just kicked Quintana's ass on the Oropa  :cool:

:cool:

He added a lot of spice to last years grand tours, so looking forward to his efforts his year.

How did I miss the coverage.  :(

Great, now he's taking a dump on the side of the road with only 30km to go.

Quote from: Maladict on May 28, 2017, 01:14:47 PM
Very convincing victory in Milan for Dumoulin  :cool:
I have a feeling this is not his last Grand Tour win.

Quote from: Liep on January 27, 2018, 06:43:58 AM
The victory is quickly being named the biggest Danish sport result since EC '92. I'd say since Riis '96. But this is damn big.  :worthy:

Quote from: Maladict on January 27, 2018, 03:31:03 PM

Quote from: Liep on January 27, 2018, 06:43:58 AM
The victory is quickly being named the biggest Danish sport result since EC '92. I'd say since Riis '96. But this is damn big.  :worthy:

Given Riis was doped up in 1996, I'd give it to Wozniacki.

Quote from: katmai on February 11, 2018, 02:20:33 AM
What is this futsal shit and why is it on my ESPN?

Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 12, 2018, 02:58:00 AM
If they shrank the field enough you could land a shot from anywhere, that might actually make soccer exciting.   :hmm:

Quote from: Tyr on February 12, 2018, 03:02:42 AM
A thought. How come the winter Olympics largely just features dull snow and ice related sports.
Surely gymnastics, martial arts and other indoor stuff is equally valid in winter as summer? :hmm:

Quote from: katmai on February 11, 2018, 02:20:33 AM
What is this futsal shit and why is it on my ESPN?

Quote from: celedhring on February 12, 2018, 03:59:23 AM

Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 12, 2018, 02:58:00 AM
If they shrank the field enough you could land a shot from anywhere, that might actually make soccer exciting.   :hmm:

Essentially it's football played in a basketball handball court. It was invented because most schools didn't have a football pitch available (too big and expensive) so kids ended up playing football in the basketball handball court.

My neighborhood growing up didn't have a public football pitch so we usually took over the basketball pitch and played football instead.  :P

Quote from: Liep on July 17, 2018, 04:46:04 AM
A shout out to sports photographers, this one from the cobble stone stage of the Tour is an instant favourite.

.....

Quote from: Liep on July 17, 2018, 06:18:36 AM
Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig came in fourth in today's La Course (https://twitter.com/LaCoursebyTDF) after having led going up the last mountain. The post race interview is amazing, contrary to the male riders she actually has human emotions, crying, laughing and was in a great mood after her top performance.

Quote from: mongers on July 17, 2018, 06:27:40 AM

Quote from: Liep on July 17, 2018, 06:18:36 AM
Cecilie Uttrup Ludwig came in fourth in today's La Course (https://twitter.com/LaCoursebyTDF) after having led going up the last mountain. The post race interview is amazing, contrary to the male riders she actually has human emotions, crying, laughing and was in a great mood after her top performance.

:cool:

Though I did think Dan Martin's reaction to last stage's cobbled sections was brilliant, he said he'd really enjoyed it, never had the opportunity of a ride like that before and just enthused about the joy of riding a bike. 

Quote from: Liep on July 23, 2018, 08:02:03 PM
He was robbed in '95 :weep:

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/july-1994-tour-de-france-bjarne-riis-gewiss-ballan-neil-stephens-once-picture-id504177727?s=612x612)

Berzin. :ultra:

Quote from: Maladict on August 10, 2018, 12:19:45 PM
Jan Ullrich apparently didn't think he had sunk low enough, he has now been arrested for trying to strangle a prostitute  :wacko:

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2018, 04:17:00 PM
Ryder Cup is a massacree. :(

Quote from: Liep on September 29, 2018, 05:25:11 PM
Does that mean we're winning? :unsure:

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 29, 2018, 05:28:04 PM

Quote from: Liep on September 29, 2018, 05:25:11 PM
Does that mean we're winning? :unsure:

You're up 10-6 with 12 points left in the singles matches.

Quote from: mongers on September 30, 2018, 02:52:17 PM
Alejandro Valverde wins the men's world road race, a deserved win.

Dramatic race with a near insane last miles climb.  :)

Quote from: Liep on September 30, 2018, 06:38:15 PM

Quote from: mongers on September 30, 2018, 02:52:17 PM
Alejandro Valverde wins the men's world road race, a deserved win.

Dramatic race with a near insane last miles climb.  :)

Good to see an old man in the top spot. Can hardly think of a worthier winner.

Quote from: Liep on February 20, 2019, 08:13:55 AM
Tour de France starts in Copenhagen in 2021. :w00t: :yeah:

Quote from: mongers on February 20, 2019, 08:32:37 AM

Quote from: Liep on February 20, 2019, 08:13:55 AM
Tour de France starts in Copenhagen in 2021. :w00t: :yeah:

:cool:

I hope you get a better view than I did when in London for the 2012(?) start.

QuoteParalympics GB stunned after Yokohama hotels demand payment for accessibility
• Paralympics GB team hit with 'huge headache' for training camp
• Senior figure says hotels have shown a 'total lack of interest'

British Paralympic officials say they were left stunned when hotels near their training camp for the 2020 Games demanded they pay to make rooms accessible for wheelchair athletes – and then pay again to convert them back afterwards.

One senior figure said there had been a "total lack of interest" from hotels they had contacted in Yokohama when it came to helping the British Paralympic team, who will make their final preparations in the city ahead of Tokyo 2020. Another source said the issue had been a "huge headache" for more than 18 months.

What has made the issue harder to solve is that it is beyond the remit of the Tokyo 2020 organising committee, which runs the Games. Rather it is down to individual hotels – many of whom do not see the social or economic benefits of providing more accessible rooms.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 15, 2019, 12:07:49 AM
Congratulations Tiger on winning your fifth Masters. :cheers:

Quote from: Liep on September 29, 2019, 11:47:19 AM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:w00t: :w00t: :yeah: :yeah:

Wow

Quote from: Syt on October 12, 2019, 03:40:49 AM
Kipchoge runs first Marathon under 2 hours in Vienna:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/12/sport/eliud-kipchoge-marathon-vienna-intl/index.html

Quote from: Liep on October 12, 2019, 06:55:55 AM

Quote from: Syt on October 12, 2019, 03:40:49 AM
Kipchoge runs first Marathon under 2 hours in Vienna:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/12/sport/eliud-kipchoge-marathon-vienna-intl/index.html

Wild.

By the way, what is this INEOS and why are they sponsoring so much sport at the moment?

Quote from: Liep on August 16, 2020, 01:51:38 PM
That was a quick final session at the Snooker World Championship.

Quote from: PDH on August 16, 2020, 05:45:19 PM
I wonder how much blowing up there is going to be.  No real classics racing, a little bit of warms ups, no Giro, then BAM the Tour de France.  Maybe we'll see a full field crash at the start of day 2?

Quote from: PDH on August 31, 2020, 07:23:22 PM
Now there is racing, and the form is all over the place.  Maybe this is how it was back in the old days when there was only amphetamines and strychnine to dope with.

Quote from: PDH on September 01, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I can see the lack of people, but it is still good to be able to watch it for a few days until they close everything down.

Quote from: Liep on September 09, 2020, 06:40:40 AM
I just noticed there are now both a female and a male model kissing the winners. Progress!

Quote from: PDH on September 12, 2020, 10:53:15 AM
Sunweb has great tactics so far in this Tour.

Quote from: PDH on September 13, 2020, 09:34:27 PM
Ineos has just plain looked bad in the Dauphine and the Tour.  They have tried to set up the train a couple of times, but they don't have it in 2020.

Now with Bernal cracking and the rest of the team unable to really give consistent efforts, I wonder what they try to hang their hats on?

Quote from: Liep on September 18, 2020, 10:20:36 AM
Søren Kragh Andersen again! :w00t:

Quote from: Valmy on October 19, 2020, 11:56:52 AM
In the battle of miserable chokers, the Braves somehow found a way to out-choke the Dodgers in the most demoralizing and humiliating way possible and blew a 3-1 series lead. The Dodgers, after years of pathetic underachieving, have finally found their way to the World Series. I expect for them to lay down for the Rays.

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 19, 2020, 12:29:06 PM

Quote from: Valmy on October 19, 2020, 11:56:52 AM
In the battle of miserable chokers, the Braves somehow found a way to out-choke the Dodgers in the most demoralizing and humiliating way possible and blew a 3-1 series lead. The Dodgers, after years of pathetic underachieving, have finally found their way to the World Series. I expect for them to lay down for the Rays.

:hmm: By going to the WS for the 3rd time in 4 years?

Quote from: PDH on October 19, 2020, 12:46:00 PM
The Vuelta a Espana Covid is starting tomorrow.  It is nice of Italy and Spain to have super-spreader events across a wide swath of territory to help the disease along.

Quote from: PDH on October 20, 2020, 04:37:05 PM
Fun to watch Sepp Kuss from Colorado climb.  He can't really time-trial, he doesn't get the strategy of the big peloton yet (only a few years in road bikes), but he can climb.  He is a perfect domestique, willing to sacrifice for his team leader in the mountains.

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 23, 2020, 11:05:20 PM
I really should switch my allegiance from the Washington formerly-racist losers to the Ravens.

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:24:43 AM

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 23, 2020, 11:05:20 PM
I really should switch my allegiance from the Washington formerly-racist losers to the Ravens.

Speaking of which, is the new name some hipster "I'm too cool for nicknames" thing or a tantrum because they were forced to change?

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:54:03 AM
Don't make me look at how the Giants are doing Syt.

Fuck, I just did  :(

Why o why of all the cities in the US, did I have to adopt New York City for sports  :lol:

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:24:43 AM

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 23, 2020, 11:05:20 PM
I really should switch my allegiance from the Washington formerly-racist losers to the Ravens.

Speaking of which, is the new name some hipster "I'm too cool for nicknames" thing or a tantrum because they were forced to change?

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:54:03 AM
Don't make me look at how the Giants are doing Syt.

Fuck, I just did  :(

Why o why of all the cities in the US, did I have to adopt New York City for sports  :lol:

Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2020, 07:41:31 PM

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:54:03 AM
Don't make me look at how the Giants are doing Syt.

Fuck, I just did  :(

Why o why of all the cities in the US, did I have to adopt New York City for sports  :lol:

Well they have the Yankees.

Quote from: celedhring on October 25, 2020, 03:35:18 PM

Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2020, 07:41:31 PM

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:54:03 AM
Don't make me look at how the Giants are doing Syt.

Fuck, I just did  :(

Why o why of all the cities in the US, did I have to adopt New York City for sports  :lol:

Well they have the Yankees.

And baseball is the one sport I couldn't give a toss about  :lol:

Quote from: Valmy on October 25, 2020, 10:18:42 PM

Quote from: celedhring on October 25, 2020, 03:35:18 PM

Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2020, 07:41:31 PM

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:54:03 AM
Don't make me look at how the Giants are doing Syt.

Fuck, I just did  :(

Why o why of all the cities in the US, did I have to adopt New York City for sports  :lol:

Well they have the Yankees.

And baseball is the one sport I couldn't give a toss about  :lol:

Then you definitely picked the wrong city to adopt for US Sports.

Quote from: celedhring on October 26, 2020, 03:41:34 AM

Quote from: Valmy on October 25, 2020, 10:18:42 PM

Quote from: celedhring on October 25, 2020, 03:35:18 PM

Quote from: Valmy on October 24, 2020, 07:41:31 PM

Quote from: celedhring on October 24, 2020, 01:54:03 AM
Don't make me look at how the Giants are doing Syt.

Fuck, I just did  :(

Why o why of all the cities in the US, did I have to adopt New York City for sports  :lol:

Well they have the Yankees.

And baseball is the one sport I couldn't give a toss about  :lol:

Then you definitely picked the wrong city to adopt for US Sports.

When I moved there the Giants won a Superbowl and Jagr was playing for the Rangers. I was misled!

The Knicks were the Knicks though, never made de playoffs while I lived in NYC  :lol:

Quote from: celedhring on October 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM
I left one year before Linsanity and Carmelo Anthony, which was the only fun to be had by the Knicks in the XXIst century.

Quote from: The Larch on October 26, 2020, 06:13:44 AM

Quote from: celedhring on October 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM
I left one year before Linsanity and Carmelo Anthony, which was the only fun to be had by the Knicks in the XXIst century.

Those were in two different seasons, Carmelo arrived in NY during the 2010-11 season, and Linsanity was in early 2012.

Quote from: celedhring on October 26, 2020, 06:18:03 AM

EDIT: And a Jaromir Jagr Rangers jersey. Those are my sporting mementos from my life as a new yorker  :P

Quote from: celedhring on October 26, 2020, 06:18:03 AM
True, since they traded for Melo midseason (so 2011-12 was the first full Melo season) I kinda fused both events in my brain. I had already left the city, anyway, never got to watch either at the MSG.

Quote from: celedhring on February 01, 2021, 03:50:58 AM
I find the plays rather repetitive, is all.

Quote from: Threviel on February 01, 2021, 03:53:36 AM
I don't know if it's true or not, but I talked to a goalie once. He claimed that they regularly sprained their fingers in all manners of different angles in almost every game. Ouch. :wacko:

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2021, 04:01:31 AM

Quote from: celedhring on February 01, 2021, 03:50:58 AM
I find the plays rather repetitive, is all.

Based on limited viewing it looks like there is only one offensive play.

Breakaway, fail, weave, repeat.

Quote from: Liep on May 22, 2021, 04:12:52 PM
Denmark's greatest sports star just won her first world tour stage.

Quote from: PDH on May 22, 2021, 06:19:40 PM
Is she getting tips from Bjarne Riis on how to dope?

Quote from: Liep on May 23, 2021, 04:19:38 AM

Quote from: PDH on May 22, 2021, 06:19:40 PM
Is she getting tips from Bjarne Riis on how to dope?

If there's one cyclist in the history of the sport I'd believe wouldn't take doping it's her. :wub:

Quote from: The Larch on June 01, 2021, 08:04:22 AM
Does somebody know what has happened exactly to Naomi Osaka at the French Open?

Quote from: PDH on July 04, 2021, 01:53:30 PM
I am loathe to say it, but I am getting a late 90's early 00's vibe from Pogacar.  Especially in his recovery - more "normal" riders like Carapaz don't have the ability to do this day after day...

If he has a day where he cracks, even if not fully but just shows he is not back to near 100% overnight after a big effort, then perhaps he really is just a phenom.  Having a team DS who has been implicated in many doping cases over the years doesn't help my view, I think.

Quote from: clandestino on July 05, 2021, 06:17:17 AM
PDH, I'm sure you're more knowledgeable about the sport than I do, since I just try to see a few days of the major races (and the Portuguese one) while fighting tiredness that prevents me from keeping awake all the time (a family tradition).

I also would like to mention that I sympathize with Pogacar, seems a decent lad from a country that I like and where I've passed a few good moments.

I'm aware of the sport past, as most, and wonder what good can be achieved if we are always questioning each year winners/ best performers. Shouldn't UCI had established a strong doping prevention scheme by now that would let us see the competition without being suspicious all the time? I'm not naive and am aware that doping schemes are always an arms race between new drugs and avoidance techniques and the testing labs, but shouldn't we try to believe that a racer is innocent until proven guilty? We might be witnessing the greatest athlete in the sport of all time or another cheating scum, but in other fields most don't treat greats like Bolt or Phelps with the same level of suspicion.

I'll keep living the fantasy of being witnessing history and wonder why he keeps asserting dominance without need like yesterday where he just needed to follow the Ineos guys and not leave them behind like it was nothing. Sure if he was trying to avoid suspicion he would keep the lowest profile possible?

Dunno, maybe I'm being naive.

Quote from: clandestino on July 05, 2021, 06:17:17 AM
Dunno, maybe I'm being naive.

Quote from: clandestino on July 07, 2021, 10:46:35 AM
So... what about today? :frog:

Another great stage and it seems that Pogacar is human after all. Unfortunately that downhill part allowed him (them) to connect with Vingagaard again, if not it would be around a 40'' advantage.

Wout van Aert was great! The commentators kept referring that he was second yesterday in a sprinting finish... maybe someone to look for in the near future?

Quote from: PDH on July 07, 2021, 11:12:21 AM

He got topped by 30 seconds, but by no means did Pogacar crack.  If he is human, then this will continue in the Pyrenees.  His biggest weakness is not losing 30 seconds - which in the end he made up and looked sprightly at the line (he has a far bigger gap than people have had in the Tour after the 1st week than we've seen in a long time), but rather his team is weak.  You can see the effects of the fighting on Carapaz who doesn't have that spring on the climbs, and he has the strongest team remaining.  Pogacar on Ineos would be unstoppable I think.

Van Aert is a big name - if it weren't for Van der Poole coming up a couple of years behind, he would be talked about like MVDP.  He can sprint, he can time trial, and he can climb steady climbs.  If anything, last year was a better year for Van Aert, but he is a huge talent.

Quote from: celedhring on July 15, 2021, 04:08:27 AM
So, Barcelona intends to bid for the 2030 Winter Olympics. I still think it's a bad idea given there's very little tradition of winter sports over here, and not many people will care, but we'll see. The city already tried to run for the 2022 and 2026 Olympics but lack of internal support nixed those bids.

Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2021, 01:31:17 PM
This showed up on German reddit. Andre Greipel (admittedly never heard of him) finishes his career at Tour de France, and has a beer for retirement:

https://streamable.com/hesmcm

Quote from: Syt on July 18, 2021, 05:43:05 AM
Do they guys in beach handball get to play in speedos, too?

Quote from: Liep on July 18, 2021, 06:20:39 AM

Quote from: Syt on July 18, 2021, 05:43:05 AM
Do they guys in beach handball get to play in speedos, too?

Tight tank tops and shorts that must be no shorter than 10 cm from the knee. Would it improve viewership if they played in speedos?

Quote from: Maladict on July 18, 2021, 06:35:55 AM

Does anyone watch it now?

Quote from: Liep on July 18, 2021, 05:15:35 AM
There's been some controversies surrounding the Euro Beach Handball tournament because Norway was denied a request to wear hotpants. They were told rules are rules and they say that the bottoms should cover no more than 10 cm.

I mean, it feels a little outdated. But I trust in IHF when they say the rules are there to optimise the players ability to move freely.

Quote from: Liep on July 17, 2021, 11:03:26 AM
Danes finish as 2nd and 3rd on the final time trial and Vingegaard is 2nd in the GC. Amazing. First time since Riis that a Dane finishes in the top 5 in the tour.

Quote from: The Larch on July 22, 2021, 02:21:23 PM
Does anyone outside Northern England or Southern France really care about Rugby League in Europe?

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 22, 2021, 02:28:11 PM

Quote from: The Larch on July 22, 2021, 02:21:23 PM
Does anyone outside Northern England or Southern France really care about Rugby League in Europe?

Isn't France rugby union territory?

Quote from: Tyr on July 22, 2021, 05:31:49 PM
Even in "the north" RL is very regional. Its a non entity in the north east (Union barely penetrates here
) and is pretty solidly a Yorkshire and especially Lancashire thing.
Nonetheless it is the superior form of rugby. Much more interesting to watch.


In other niche British things... Apparently a new short form cricket league has started up called the hundred. First I've heard of it. The name of the league and the team names....so very wannabe edgy and cool and American. My eyes bleed.

Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2021, 07:16:08 AM
Not having spectators was the right call but it just looks bizarre that the athletes are waving to an empty stadium.

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 23, 2021, 07:13:14 AM
:lol:

Quote from: celedhring on July 23, 2021, 07:29:48 AM

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 23, 2021, 07:13:14 AM
:lol:

They played the Final Fantasy victory theme, they should totally do that in medal ceremonies  :lol:

Quote from: celedhring on July 23, 2021, 07:29:48 AM

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 23, 2021, 07:13:14 AM
:lol:

They played the Final Fantasy victory theme, they should totally do that in medal ceremonies  :lol:

Quote from: FunkMonk on July 23, 2021, 08:45:42 AM
Wait, so they basically had no original music so someone decided to blast their Spotify Video Game soundtrack playlist?  :lmfao:

Quote from: celedhring on July 23, 2021, 11:35:58 AM
All in all the ceremony was rather subdued. Which I guess it's understandable given the circumstances.

Now time to take residence in my couch to watch sports I only care about every 4 years (5 this time).

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 23, 2021, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: celedhring on July 23, 2021, 11:35:58 AM
All in all the ceremony was rather subdued. Which I guess it's understandable given the circumstances.

Now time to take residence in my couch to watch sports I only care about every 4 years (5 this time).

Yep. That time every four years when, in the course of a single day, I go from knowing nothing to having very strong feelings about ransom sports like different gymnastics disciplines and keiren :lol.

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 23, 2021, 11:51:47 AM

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 23, 2021, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: celedhring on July 23, 2021, 11:35:58 AM
All in all the ceremony was rather subdued. Which I guess it's understandable given the circumstances.

Now time to take residence in my couch to watch sports I only care about every 4 years (5 this time).

Yep. That time every four years when, in the course of a single day, I go from knowing nothing to having very strong feelings about ransom sports like different gymnastics disciplines and keiren :lol.

Not all sporting events involving paying ransoms to the judges.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2021, 12:09:04 PM
Who's keirin? :unsure:

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 23, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
It's the Japanese cycling race event - basically a 2000 m race. First set of laps with a pacemaker on a moped and everyone at similar-ish speeds reaching up to 70kph by the later rounds, then the pacemaker leaves and there's carnage for the final few laps.

But I only ever see it at the Olympics but love it when it comes on. It's great.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2021, 12:09:04 PM
Who's keirin? :unsure:

Quote from: celedhring on July 23, 2021, 06:40:30 AM
Watching the Olympics opening ceremony. They are playing JPRG soundtacks while the athletes parade  :lol:

Quote from: Tyr on July 24, 2021, 03:30:32 AM
I'm hoping Yorkshire puts in a strong showing again.

Glancing at the opening ceremony it's interesting/sad that a lot of countries haven't sent many people. Ethiopia seemed to be only a handful of guys. Normally they're strong at long distance.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 24, 2021, 05:09:24 PM
Does anyone know what the function of the player with the different colored uniform is in volleyball?

Pretty sure they're not the goalie.

QuoteChernobyl for Ukraine, pizza for Italy: South Korean TV apologises for Olympic images
    MBC sorry for 'inappropriate images and captions'
    Syria and Haiti summed up by war and unrest
Tom Lutz
@tom_lutz
Sat 24 Jul 2021 12.59 BST

A South Korean broadcaster has apologised after using offensive images to depict several countries during the opening ceremony of the Olympics on Friday.

MBC displayed photos and facts about each country as athletes walked out during the parade of nations. Most of them varied from inane to odd: Great Britain's athletes were accompanied by a photo of the Queen, and El Salvador, where the cryptocurrency is legal tender, was summed up by a bitcoin symbol.

Others offered basic stereotypes. MBC used a photo of Dracula for Romania, pizza for Italy and salmon for Norway.

However, there were others that drew criticism. When Ukraine's athletes walked out MBC flashed up an image of the Chernobyl disaster, which is considered the worst nuclear accident in history and devastated large parts of the surrounding area. The Marshall Islands were described as "once a nuclear test site for the United States".

Haiti's athletes, meanwhile, were accompanied by photos of men protesting in front of an explosion and the words "the political situation is fogged by the assassination of the president". Jovenel Moïse, the president of Haiti, was killed at his home earlier this month.

Rather than concentrating on Syria's rich culture and historic sites, MBC said it was known for "underground resources; a civil war that has been going on for 10 years".

After backlash on social media, the broadcaster issued an apology. "Inappropriate images and captions were used to introduce some stories," said MBC in a statement. "We apologized to those countries including Ukraine and our viewers."

The opening ceremony was a more subdued event than usual with spectators absent from the stadium due to Covid-19 restrictions. The Japanese tennis star Naomi Osaka lit the Olympic cauldron to start the Games.

QuoteRaphael Rashid
@koryodynasty
South Korean broadcaster MBC used images to "represent" each country during the #Tokyo2020 Opening Ceremony.

Italy: pizza
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6_ht4EVEAEL6DJ?format=jpg&name=small)
Norway: salmon
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6_huEDUYAIh_jt?format=jpg&name=small)
Haiti: upheaval
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6_huPeVgAA3Xn4?format=jpg&name=small)
Ukraine: Chernobyl
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6_hufSVkAcUfiu?format=jpg&name=small)

QuoteRaphael Rashid
@koryodynasty
Sweden: said it was the "developed country of welfare" but made a typo in "developed country" (선진국) and wrote "선지국" which is cow blood soup, a Korean delicacy.

One more thing: MBC also indicated the GDP and vaccination rate for each country, leaving netizens baffled.

Quote from: Josephus on July 25, 2021, 08:30:50 AM
I'm surprised the Americans don't win at shooting every time. It's like in their DNA; like hockey to Canadians, football to latinos, gymnastics to Romanians.. etc.

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 25, 2021, 06:32:47 PM

Quote from: Josephus on July 25, 2021, 08:30:50 AM
I'm surprised the Americans don't win at shooting every time. It's like in their DNA; like hockey to Canadians, football to latinos, gymnastics to Romanians.. etc.

The American sports dominance is conducted thru Collegiate sports. If it's not there, they are only good once in a while.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 26, 2021, 03:18:04 AM
This isn't exactly the dream team, but it's still a team that would earn a top 4 seed in the NBA playoffs. They shouldn't be losing to France.

https://www.nba.com/news/usa-basketball-announces-2021-olympic-team-roster

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 26, 2021, 03:18:04 AM
This isn't exactly the dream team, but it's still a team that would earn a top 4 seed in the NBA playoffs. They shouldn't be losing to France.

https://www.nba.com/news/usa-basketball-announces-2021-olympic-team-roster

Quote from: Tyr on July 26, 2021, 09:57:37 AM
I guess the US basketball team isn't a normal 'thing' where the players get together and train whilst other international teams actually are that?

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 26, 2021, 10:00:10 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 26, 2021, 03:18:04 AM
This isn't exactly the dream team, but it's still a team that would earn a top 4 seed in the NBA playoffs. They shouldn't be losing to France.

https://www.nba.com/news/usa-basketball-announces-2021-olympic-team-roster

No, they should. Pop can't coach the team to adapt to the International rules. Also, the age of difference to the USA team is over. The other teams are not awed by the presence of DG or Durant.

@Tyr Neither are most teams. Lots of International NBA stars nowadays.

Quote from: Syt on July 27, 2021, 08:47:31 AM
Well, to stay with football, your club, where you train multiple times a week and play oodles of matches during a season might have a certain form of tactics that they play and that gets drilled into your head. So when you come to the national team there might be a completely different tactic in place, most of your team mates with whom you have may have blind understanding will not be there, and you might be put in a different position with at least slightly different tactical roles and instructions than you play 90-95% of the time. (Of course a national coach will try to take that into account when creating their line up, but there's only so much you can do.)

Quote from: Syt on July 27, 2021, 08:47:31 AM
Well, to stay with football, your club, where you train multiple times a week and play oodles of matches during a season might have a certain form of tactics that they play and that gets drilled into your head. So when you come to the national team there might be a completely different tactic in place, most of your team mates with whom you have may have blind understanding will not be there, and you might be put in a different position with at least slightly different tactical roles and instructions than you play 90-95% of the time. (Of course a national coach will try to take that into account when creating their line up, but there's only so much you can do.)

Quote from: DGuller on July 28, 2021, 06:35:06 AM
WTF is up with Simone Biles? :unsure: Did the Russians zap her with their microwave gun or something?  Say all you want about how quitting is the new winning, but you don't just prepare for the Olympics for four years to quit in the middle of the games.  Whatever mental health issue she has must be crippling.  :(

QuoteBiles, 24, scored 13.766 - her lowest Olympic vault score - before withdrawing from the event.

"After the performance I did, I just didn't want to go on," she said.

"I have to focus on my mental health. I just think mental health is more prevalent in sports right now.

"We have to protect our minds and our bodies and not just go out and do what the world wants us to do.

"I don't trust myself as much anymore. Maybe it's getting older. There were a couple of days when everybody tweets you and you feel the weight of the world.

"We're not just athletes. We're people at the end of the day and sometimes you just have to step back.

"I didn't want to go out and do something stupid and get hurt. ​I feel like a lot of athletes speaking up has really helped.

"It's so big, it's the Olympic Games. At the end of the day we don't want to be carried out of there on a stretcher."

Quote from: DGuller on July 28, 2021, 07:08:38 AM
The Russian Internet had a speculation that Japan's tight restriction on some medications could've prevented Simone from taking prescriptions that she has exemptions for.  She infamously takes ADD medication, and I think she may also be taking anxiety medication.  If there is indeed something to it, then I can see how suddenly going off meds can completely demolish your confidence in yourself and your body.

Quote from: celedhring on July 28, 2021, 01:42:45 PM
I watch EVERYTHING.

I love the Olympics.

Quote from: celedhring on July 28, 2021, 01:42:45 PM
I watch EVERYTHING.

I love the Olympics.

Quote from: The Larch on July 28, 2021, 07:47:12 AM

Quote from: DGuller on July 28, 2021, 07:08:38 AM
The Russian Internet had a speculation that Japan's tight restriction on some medications could've prevented Simone from taking prescriptions that she has exemptions for.  She infamously takes ADD medication, and I think she may also be taking anxiety medication.  If there is indeed something to it, then I can see how suddenly going off meds can completely demolish your confidence in yourself and your body.

Might be, but I doubt that athletes with the proper paperwork can't take the medications they need to Japan, even if local regulations are super strict, given all the dispensations that are made for the Olympics.

QuoteWhy is Team USA wearing masks that make them look like Bane from Batman?

We looked into this. The masks, made by Nike, aren't extra-protective or anything. They're mostly a fashion statement. The pleats are meant to evoke the folds of Japanese origami.

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 29, 2021, 08:27:03 PM
Canada has won 11 medals so far. All by women. Apparently we're the only country were women are out winning the men.

QuoteSouth Korean archer's short hair draws anti-feminist sentiment at home

TOKYO, July 29 (Reuters) - The short haircut of South Korean archer An San, who has won two gold medals at the Tokyo Olympics, has attracted anti-feminist sentiment at home.

Online abuse, calling her hairstyle "feminist", comes against a backdrop of rising anti-feminist sentiment among South Korean young men.

The 20-year-old archer won South Korea's first gold on Saturday, then claimed another gold in the women's team event.

After she won a matchplay in the 1/16 elimination round of the women's individual event on Thursday, her coach blocked reporters from asking "unnecessary" questions, apparently aware of the controversy.

An herself said she would answer only questions related to the Games, even before a reporter finished a question about the online hostility.

Growing animosity toward feminism and public policy to promote women's rights has become a hot topic in South Korea.

Some South Korean politicians and celebrities posted messages and their own short-hair photos to support An.

"With that firm look, please shoot through every prejudice in the world. We stand by your short-cut hair and support you," Sim Sang-jung, a lawmaker from a minority Justice Party, said in a tweet.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2021, 07:16:17 AM
That kind of sentiment is running rampant among young men here.

Quote from: celedhring on July 31, 2021, 07:40:36 AM
Watched the mixed 4x400 relay, this was fun. We need more mixed sports wherever applicable.

Quote from: Josephus on July 25, 2021, 08:30:50 AM
I'm surprised the Americans don't win at shooting every time. It's like in their DNA; like hockey to Canadians, football to latinos, gymnastics to Romanians.. etc.

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 29, 2021, 08:27:03 PM
Canada has won 11 medals so far. All by women. Apparently we're the only country were women are out winning the men.

Quote from: DGuller on July 31, 2021, 10:47:23 AM
So now Simone Biles situation clears up, and it turns out that she lost her air awareness.  I'm not sure then why this was made out to be some brave stance for mental health.  If your lose your sense of balance while in the air, then obviously you just can't do gymnastics no matter what stance you take on mental health.  I'm sure even a North Korean federation would understand why a gymnast would have to withdraw if faced with such an issue.

Quote from: DGuller on July 28, 2021, 12:12:17 PM
I have never been less interested in the Olympics than I am this year.  It feels like an obligation everyone has to get over with.  Does anyone feel the same way?

Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2021, 08:05:42 AM
I had no idea one false start meant elimination. Seems harsh.
Turned it onto the Italian channel as their guy won the 100m. Funny to listen to.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2021, 04:52:12 PM
7 way playoff for bronze in Olympic golf.  AFAICT it was sort of sudden death format.  You bogie a hole everyone else pars, you're out.  Par a whole someone birdies, you're out.

The announcer said Ireland's medal hopes were dashed when Rory McIlroy missed a putt.  Surely since he's Northern Irish he plays for GB?  Or is there some weird thing with NI Olympians?

Quote from: Sheilbh on August 01, 2021, 04:57:11 PM
Northern Irish people can choose to represent Ireland or "team GB" (the clue's in the name) - this was a post-GFA development. McIlroy chose to represent Ireland. He is Roman Catholic so that's probably to be expected.

Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2021, 01:31:52 AM
The high jump was interesting. Italian guy and a Qatari who looks like a Mr Men character share the gold.
I didn't know this was possible.
If you can agree to stop competing and just call it then why jump at all. Gold for all!

Quote from: Tyr on August 02, 2021, 01:31:52 AM
The high jump was interesting. Italian guy and a Qatari who looks like a Mr Men character share the gold.
I didn't know this was possible.
If you can agree to stop competing and just call it then why jump at all. Gold for all!

Quote from: mongers on July 30, 2021, 07:27:48 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 30, 2021, 07:16:17 AM
That kind of sentiment is running rampant among young men here.

:blink:

Tim, are those likely to be those 'celibate can't get any' types?

Quote from: Agelastus on August 01, 2021, 01:41:08 PM

Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2021, 08:05:42 AM
I had no idea one false start meant elimination. Seems harsh.
Turned it onto the Italian channel as their guy won the 100m. Funny to listen to.

False start rules have become a lot harsher this century.

https://www.liveabout.com/false-start-rule-history-controversies-3259158

Although I hadn't realised, despite it happening ten years ago according to that article, that they'd got rid of the rule that allowed an athlete to get away with the first false start in the race with the second and subsequent false starts being automatic disqualifications regardless of the athlete involved.

Personally, I'd rather they reverted to the pre-2000 rules for false starts; the current system is ridiculously harsh in my opinion.

Although, admittedly, the British athlete's false start in the 100m final was a spectacular example of jumping the gun..

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2021, 09:13:25 PM
Fucking frostbacks.

We got robbed in women's footie.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2021, 09:13:25 PM
Fucking frostbacks.

We got robbed in women's footie.

Quote from: Liep on August 07, 2021, 06:24:10 AM
Mørkøv and Norman wins the Madison. :w00t:

Quote from: mongers on August 07, 2021, 07:19:12 AM

Quote from: Liep on August 07, 2021, 06:24:10 AM
Mørkøv and Norman wins the Madison. :w00t:

:cool:

Michael TdF rider?

Quote from: Liep on August 07, 2021, 07:21:16 AM

Quote from: mongers on August 07, 2021, 07:19:12 AM

Quote from: Liep on August 07, 2021, 06:24:10 AM
Mørkøv and Norman wins the Madison. :w00t:

:cool:

Michael TdF rider?

Yes, was lead out for Cavendish, best at what he does.

QuoteLauren Price: The girl who reached for the moon and came down with Olympic boxing gold
By Tom Brown BBC Sport Wales at the Tokyo Olympics

In the early 2000s, an eight-year-old was asked to write down three goals as part of a school project.

She wrote that she wanted to become a kickboxing world champion, play international football for Wales and go to the Olympic Games.

Her teacher raised an eyebrow, but the girl's grandmother told her to let the girl dream.

She had always told her granddaughter to reach for the moon and that if she fell short, she would land on the stars.

By the time she was 27, the girl had achieved all three of her goals.

And then she went even further. Not only did she go to the Olympics, but the middleweight won a gold medal.

This is the story of Lauren Price: Olympic boxing champion.

Quote from: Sheilbh on August 08, 2021, 01:41:54 PM
Bloody hell :ph34r: :o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58126983

QuoteLauren Price: The girl who reached for the moon and came down with Olympic boxing gold
By Tom Brown BBC Sport Wales at the Tokyo Olympics

In the early 2000s, an eight-year-old was asked to write down three goals as part of a school project.

She wrote that she wanted to become a kickboxing world champion, play international football for Wales and go to the Olympic Games.

Her teacher raised an eyebrow, but the girl's grandmother told her to let the girl dream.

She had always told her granddaughter to reach for the moon and that if she fell short, she would land on the stars.

By the time she was 27, the girl had achieved all three of her goals.

And then she went even further. Not only did she go to the Olympics, but the middleweight won a gold medal.

This is the story of Lauren Price: Olympic boxing champion.

Quote from: Maladict on August 29, 2021, 11:51:06 AM
The Belgian GP has turned into a farce. Bad weather conditions first forced a three hour postponement, but FIA apparently insisted on having a race. So the mandatory minimum two laps are driven behind a safety car ( no overtaking allowed), and then the race is declared over.  :lol:

QuoteTumaini Carayol
@tumcarayol
Emma Raducanu has won the US Open. Things she hasn't done as a professional:

- Won a WTA tour match
- Played a tour level three set match(!!)
- Played on clay
- Directly entered a slam main draw
- Played five tour level events

One of the craziest breakout runs ever.

Quote from: Liep on September 18, 2021, 03:27:17 PM
RIP Chris Anker Sørensen, great cyclist and commentator. Died after a collision with a car while riding the WC route. :(

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 23, 2021, 01:52:10 PM
Kind of love that the Russian player at the World Chess Championship has to play under a neutral flag due to the anti-doping sanctions :lol:

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2021, 06:59:23 PM
European Ryder Cup team has arrived in the US.  :w00t:

My favorite gold tournament.

Quote from: celedhring on January 30, 2022, 09:28:10 AM
It's ridiculous how Nadal/Djokovic/Federer have been so dominant for nearly 2 decades now.

(https://i.imgur.com/BQSLf3y.png)

Quote from: celedhring on January 30, 2022, 09:35:00 AM
When I was fresh off uni I briefly worked as a video journalist, and I did a lot of work covering videogame events in Spain. I was once tasked with interviewing 3 promising young Spanish sportsmen that Sony was sponsoring.

These 3 guys were Pau Gasol, Rafael Nadal, and Andrés Iniesta.

Quote from: The Larch on January 30, 2022, 04:19:50 PM

Quote from: celedhring on January 30, 2022, 09:35:00 AM
When I was fresh off uni I briefly worked as a video journalist, and I did a lot of work covering videogame events in Spain. I was once tasked with interviewing 3 promising young Spanish sportsmen that Sony was sponsoring.

These 3 guys were Pau Gasol, Rafael Nadal, and Andrés Iniesta.

Whoever picked the sportsmen had a really good eye for talent.

Quote from: Tyr on January 30, 2022, 06:38:55 PM
So. Was Nadal a dick?

Quote from: Jacob on January 30, 2022, 11:26:22 PM
Sweden take gold, Spain silver, Denmark bronze.

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 31, 2022, 12:13:42 PM

Quote from: Jacob on January 30, 2022, 11:26:22 PM
Sweden take gold, Spain silver, Denmark bronze.

In what?

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 31, 2022, 12:13:42 PM

Quote from: Jacob on January 30, 2022, 11:26:22 PM
Sweden take gold, Spain silver, Denmark bronze.

In what?

Quote from: celedhring on January 30, 2022, 09:28:10 AMIt's ridiculous how Nadal/Djokovic/Federer have been so dominant for nearly 2 decades now.

Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2022, 09:26:57 AM

Quote from: celedhring on January 30, 2022, 09:28:10 AMIt's ridiculous how Nadal/Djokovic/Federer have been so dominant for nearly 2 decades now.

I remember when American Men used to dominate the US Open, or at least consistently over-perform other tournaments, but no American has won the Men's Singles Title since...holy shit, Andy Roddick 19 years ago? Ok this is starting to get embarrassing.

Quote from: celedhring on September 19, 2022, 04:46:33 AMI still laugh at the fact that Egypt (!!) has won the Eurobasket more times than Serbia.

Quote from: celedhring on September 19, 2022, 04:46:33 AMThis win means that we're also record holders if we only count countries that still exist  :P

Quote from: Maladict on September 19, 2022, 09:41:04 AM

Quote from: celedhring on September 19, 2022, 04:46:33 AMThis win means that we're also record holders if we only count countries that still exist  :P

Yugoslavia should get some credit for still winning tournaments 9 years after ceasing to exist.  :lol:

Quote from: The Larch on September 19, 2022, 10:56:52 AM

Quote from: Maladict on September 19, 2022, 09:41:04 AM

Quote from: celedhring on September 19, 2022, 04:46:33 AMThis win means that we're also record holders if we only count countries that still exist  :P

Yugoslavia should get some credit for still winning tournaments 9 years after ceasing to exist.  :lol:

What do you mean?

Quote from: Maladict on September 19, 2022, 04:54:21 PM

Quote from: The Larch on September 19, 2022, 10:56:52 AM

Quote from: Maladict on September 19, 2022, 09:41:04 AM

Quote from: celedhring on September 19, 2022, 04:46:33 AMThis win means that we're also record holders if we only count countries that still exist  :P

Yugoslavia should get some credit for still winning tournaments 9 years after ceasing to exist.  :lol:

What do you mean?

They seem to have won in 2001.