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#91

Off the Record / Re: The adventures of AI Faceb...

Last post by HVC - April 14, 2024, 11:58:52 AM

The face only works for me in peripheral vision.  Cool.

I can get it to work if I semi close my eyes like the bot says.

#92

Off the Record / Re: The adventures of AI Faceb...

Last post by Josquius - April 14, 2024, 11:49:44 AM

I love that one of the kids seems to be a boy in a dress.
They had it coming!

#93

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by OttoVonBismarck - April 14, 2024, 11:48:17 AM

I agree with that narrative Raz, I suspect very few left/progressives who become Pro-Pal activists start off antisemitic, but once you are in that culture it becomes part of the "language."

I think we have seen how common that language is with how Ilhan Omar got in trouble with some imprecise word usage about Jews a few years back, I strongly suspect she was clumsily using language that is likely very common among her circle, but that she likely understands isn't acceptable outside of it--but when you talk a certain way around your inner circle all the time it is unsurprising when you slip up and say it in public.

I saw a poll not long ago that in Britain, 65% of Muslims under age 25 believe Israel does not have the right to exist. This is much higher than was found for older groups, middle aged and older British Muslims held that view at around a 35-40% clip (still high), but to me it shows online rhetoric among young Palestinian activists has created a culture of acceptance of antisemitic phrases and rhetoric.

#94

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Josquius - April 14, 2024, 11:48:08 AM

No one says it isn't possible, what we are saying is we have eyes and ears. This war has green lit a massive wave of antisemitic bigotry in the West and it is quite obvious the mask is off for lots of people. It has shown us Palestinian Arabs can never be trusted as immigrants, they are forever committed to Islamic extremism. It has shown us many far lefties are antisemites.

There definitely has been an uptick in anti semitism.
There has also been a huge uptick in people labelling any criticism, or even just failure to support, as anti semitic lunacy in line with Islamic extremists.

Like most things Israel and Palestine whenever I read articles about anti semitic controversies these days it tends to be  a real cunts on both sides issue that calls for slaps all round. It's simply cringe worthy.

#95

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Razgovory - April 14, 2024, 11:29:02 AM

Its not the Israel is always wrong no matter what fringe who they have to win around. It's all the others they've been doing their best to alienate lately. A far more significant group which runs most of the west.

I think even now most of the people "alienated" by Israel are in the first group.  Let's not give cover to people who have finally found an accepted outlet to the bigotry they harbored all along.

I think that a lot of leftwing people don't start out antisemitic, but move in that direction as a consequence of their activism.  The Pro-Pal movement is a gateway to Jew-hate.  I've also notice that the Pro-Pal movement has changed a lot in the last 20 years.  They are much more hateful and accepting of violence then they were in the past.  You just didn't see stuff things like this back then.

#96

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by OttoVonBismarck - April 14, 2024, 11:08:19 AM

No one says it isn't possible, what we are saying is we have eyes and ears. This war has green lit a massive wave of antisemitic bigotry in the West and it is quite obvious the mask is off for lots of people. It has shown us Palestinian Arabs can never be trusted as immigrants, they are forever committed to Islamic extremism. It has shown us many far lefties are antisemites.

#97

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Josquius - April 14, 2024, 10:41:50 AM

Its not the Israel is always wrong no matter what fringe who they have to win around. It's all the others they've been doing their best to alienate lately. A far more significant group which runs most of the west.

I think even now most of the people "alienated" by Israel are in the first group.  Let's not give cover to people who have finally found an accepted outlet to the bigotry they harbored all along.

That's just daft.
It's perfectly possible to have criticisms of Israels current operations without being an anti semite.

#98

Off the Record / Re: The adventures of AI Faceb...

Last post by Razgovory - April 14, 2024, 09:46:00 AM

That was the page I got some of the weirdest shit from.  I haven't been getting much weird stuff lately, well weird Jesus stuff anyway.

#99

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by DGuller - April 14, 2024, 09:33:41 AM

Its not the Israel is always wrong no matter what fringe who they have to win around. It's all the others they've been doing their best to alienate lately. A far more significant group which runs most of the west.

I think even now most of the people "alienated" by Israel are in the first group.  Let's not give cover to people who have finally found an accepted outlet to the bigotry they harbored all along.

#100

Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023

Last post by Tamas - April 14, 2024, 08:53:18 AM

I think the sensible Israeli reaction would be "well we have proven Iran can't hurt us, we'll return to our regularly scheduled programming" and do not reply. Then again, I still think Bibi needs indefinite war and crisis to stay in power so there's probably going to be a counter-strike.

At least I hope they use the chance to take out either nuclear facilities or/and drone factories, the latter could benefit the war in Ukraine as well.