Well, I haven't got anything new to add yet. I am level 33 though. :)
Ah 33, the STV time. Best ever.
I am considering reactivation of my old account. Is there a general sense in what month the new raid zone will be released?
Quote from: Liep on March 12, 2009, 10:19:06 AM
Ah 33, the STV time. Best ever.
If you are horde maybe with their centrall located base. For alliance its running, and running and did I mention more running. Or at least until they gave mounts at 30 along with the second flightpath at the rebel base. Young uns don´t know how good things are these days.
Quote from: Cecil on March 12, 2009, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: Liep on March 12, 2009, 10:19:06 AM
Ah 33, the STV time. Best ever.
If you are horde maybe with their centrall located base. For alliance its running, and running and did I mention more running. Or at least until they gave mounts at 30 along with the second flightpath at the rebel base. Young uns don´t know how good things are these days.
They seriously don't.
Well, I can't wait to be an 80 so all these damn 80 hordes will quit killing and camping me. It's really annoying!
Quote from: Cecil on March 12, 2009, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: Liep on March 12, 2009, 10:19:06 AM
Ah 33, the STV time. Best ever.
If you are horde maybe with their centrall located base. For alliance its running, and running and did I mention more running. Or at least until they gave mounts at 30 along with the second flightpath at the rebel base. Young uns don´t know how good things are these days.
I gave up on my BE character at 21 because I couldn't go anywhere! All my quest were in really high level places and I was so lost and frustrated...I was just like fuck it man.
Quote from: Korea on March 12, 2009, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: Cecil on March 12, 2009, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: Liep on March 12, 2009, 10:19:06 AM
Ah 33, the STV time. Best ever.
If you are horde maybe with their centrall located base. For alliance its running, and running and did I mention more running. Or at least until they gave mounts at 30 along with the second flightpath at the rebel base. Young uns don´t know how good things are these days.
I gave up on my BE character at 21 because I couldn't go anywhere! All my quest were in really high level places and I was so lost and frustrated...I was just like fuck it man.
Sometimes you need to move to another continent to find more good quest areas. Kalimdor is the place of choice for Horde I believe with Barrens/Ashenvale and thousand needles carrying you through to 30.
Quote from: Korea on March 12, 2009, 11:21:07 AM
Well, I can't wait to be an 80 so all these damn 80 hordes will quit killing and camping me. It's really annoying!
Yeah, I am predicting that you will be an easy kill at level 80 as well.
Quote from: berkutl on March 12, 2009, 11:28:16 AM
Sometimes you need to move to another continent to find more good quest areas. Kalimdor is the place of choice for Horde I believe with Barrens/Ashenvale and thousand needles carrying you through to 30.
I figured I should go to ashenvale but I couldn't figure out how to get there so I just sat and stewed in the Undercity.
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 12, 2009, 11:21:07 AM
Well, I can't wait to be an 80 so all these damn 80 hordes will quit killing and camping me. It's really annoying!
Yeah, I am predicting that you will be an easy kill at level 80 as well.
Why?
Quote from: Korea on March 12, 2009, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 12, 2009, 11:21:07 AM
Well, I can't wait to be an 80 so all these damn 80 hordes will quit killing and camping me. It's really annoying!
Yeah, I am predicting that you will be an easy kill at level 80 as well.
Why?
Women suck at video games.
Quote from: Tiamat on March 12, 2009, 11:56:56 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 12, 2009, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 12, 2009, 11:21:07 AM
Well, I can't wait to be an 80 so all these damn 80 hordes will quit killing and camping me. It's really annoying!
Yeah, I am predicting that you will be an easy kill at level 80 as well.
Why?
Women suck at video games.
Psh.
WoW is so 2005.
Quote from: Cecil on March 12, 2009, 10:29:17 AM
If you are horde maybe with their centrall located base. For alliance its running, and running and did I mention more running. Or at least until they gave mounts at 30 along with the second flightpath at the rebel base. Young uns don´t know how good things are these days.
I was alliance back then, in '05. It was tough times, true, but that zone still ranks number one with me.
I just hit 34 on my priest. Was in one of those horrible pugs I mostly manage to avoid at 80. Our tank was a twinked holy paladin who kept trying to chain pull even though she was way too squishy for me to maintain mana without drinking. No markings, no cc, way too many mobs running into other groups. Highest dps was tank at around 60. :D Plus the group was full of 31s while the mobs were 34-35.
We managed to kill Doan anyway. I got a new shoulderpiece.
I just rolled a Rogue Gnome for some reason. Are rogues any good at anything at all?
Quote from: Korea on March 14, 2009, 04:12:59 PM
I just rolled a Rogue Gnome for some reason. Are rogues any good at anything at all?
I like the idea of a rogue, but I just can't stand to play one for any length of time.
Rogues are very good at 1v1 pvp.
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 14, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
Rogues are very good at 1v1 pvp.
Yeah someone told me that was all they are good at.
Quote from: katmai on March 14, 2009, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 14, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
Rogues are very good at 1v1 pvp.
not against feral druids :p
Good thing they have stealth and vanish then, isn't it. :P
Rogues have the greatest ability to pick the fights they want out of any class. Even ferals. Vanish/blind/sprint/gouge/etc >>>> travel form/nature's grasp as escape abilities.
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 14, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
Good thing they have stealth and vanish then, isn't it. :P
Rogues have the greatest ability to pick the fights they want out of any class. Even ferals. Vanish/blind/sprint/gouge/etc >>>> travel form/nature's grasp as escape abilities.
won't argue with that, they are the bigges pussies in game. :P
My main problem with playing a rogue (other than the fact that you never want them in a PUG) is that they take so much patience to fully utilize their abilities. For example, when soloing you theoretically want to sneak behind any mob, pick its pockets etc, but I just don't have patience to do so.
So I just go into melee head-on and it feels like playing a leather-wearing warrior.
When I played a rogue I tended to hang around lower-level areas and oneshot people in the back when they were questing. Great fun was had by all.
I fail at quitting. :(
After having quit for a few weeks, my wife out of the blue said "hey set up that WoW game so I can play again". She started playing her BE Hunter on Lightninghoof for a bit, until she understandably got frustrated with the ganking at lvl 20+. So she rolled a rogue on a random PvE server (Whisperwind I think).
So now I have a lvl 13 NE druid on that same server. :(
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
I fail at quitting. :(
After having quit for a few weeks, my wife out of the blue said "hey set up that WoW game so I can play again". She started playing her BE Hunter on Lightninghoof for a bit, until she understandably got frustrated with the ganking at lvl 20+. So she rolled a rogue on a random PvE server (Whisperwind I think).
So now I have a lvl 13 NE druid on that same server. :(
:console: It won't be the same but it'll do, you'll see. Playing Alliance feels so weird.
Woohoo. I just healed on my pally our first guild Naxx run. We brought down all the bosses of the Arachnid Quarter and one boss in each of the Plague and the Construct quarter. I got nice shoulders and mail pants.
Here's my profile after the run
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Outland&n=Visseris
I just rerolled a night elf druid and I like her a lot.
Quote from: Martinus on March 15, 2009, 02:44:28 PM
Woohoo. I just healed on my pally our first guild Naxx run. We brought down all the bosses of the Arachnid Quarter and one boss in each of the Plague and the Construct quarter. I got nice shoulders and mail pants.
Here's my profile after the run
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Outland&n=Visseris
You're not seriously bragging about Archanid quarter are you? ::) :o
Quote from: Korea on March 15, 2009, 03:08:36 PM
I just rerolled a night elf druid and I like her a lot.
Not sure what level you're at, but I found 1-10 really, really dull.
Once I got bear form though things started to pick up...
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: Korea on March 15, 2009, 03:08:36 PM
I just rerolled a night elf druid and I like her a lot.
Not sure what level you're at, but I found 1-10 really, really dull.
Once I got bear form though things started to pick up...
Sarcasm?
Druids should be eliminated from the game.
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
I fail at quitting. :(
After having quit for a few weeks, my wife out of the blue said "hey set up that WoW game so I can play again". She started playing her BE Hunter on Lightninghoof for a bit, until she understandably got frustrated with the ganking at lvl 20+. So she rolled a rogue on a random PvE server (Whisperwind I think).
So now I have a lvl 13 NE druid on that same server. :(
::)
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: Korea on March 15, 2009, 03:08:36 PM
I just rerolled a night elf druid and I like her a lot.
Not sure what level you're at, but I found 1-10 really, really dull.
Once I got bear form though things started to pick up...
I'm level 7 right now and you're right it is a bit dull but I found that all the classes till level 10 were kind of dull. Except Draeni. I thought that was pretty fun.
Quote from: katmai on March 15, 2009, 05:33:19 PM
::)
Are you rolling your eyes because I re-joined a few weeks after I quit?
Because I rolled a druid?
Because I rolled alliance?
Because I rolled PvE?
Because I followed my to a server?
Be specific in where you roll those eyes son! :contract:
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 07:28:17 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 15, 2009, 05:33:19 PM
::)
Are you rolling your eyes because I re-joined a few weeks after I quit?
Because I rolled a druid?
Because I rolled alliance?
Because I rolled PvE?
Because I followed my to a server?
Be specific in where you roll those eyes son! :contract:
yes
no
yes
yes
no
Well as long as we have that straightened out. :)
So any tips for a levelling druid?
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2009, 08:58:43 PM
Well as long as we have that straightened out. :)
So any tips for a levelling druid?
it's been so long ago, not sure how it is lvling now but don't be discouraged as i was 2nd guessing my druid till about lvl 32 or so.
Beyond that Feral is the easist to lvl, look for gear with +str, +agi, +stam.
Here's our guild's video from Anub'rekhan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL2VJUSf8Mg&eurl=http://www.kotb.org.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?4921.0
Considering that for everyone except Bruno (the shaman) and myself (pala healer) it was the first try on this boss ever (and for me it was the second try, and first try as a healer - I was here before only once as a mage) I think we did great - not a single person killed and the boss dead without any wipes. ^^
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 15, 2009, 04:04:38 PM
Druids should be eliminated from the game.
Why? Druids are useful.
Quote from: Martinus on March 16, 2009, 05:47:20 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 15, 2009, 04:04:38 PM
Druids should be eliminated from the game.
Why? Druids are useful.
One stole his raid tanking spot some time in the murky past.
My hatred of druids is much older then that.
??? I've never been able to stick with a druid, but they seem like they're fun for alot of people, and they're definitely useful all-around even if they don't necessarily shine in any one role.
I don't know about that. I've seen awesome druid tanks, not to mention healers and moonkins who topped raid dps. Like paladins and shaman, they can shine at multiple roles!
In my days as a paladin, I've been a shitty dps, a decent tank, and a legendary healer. Its all about gear, talents and play style. 8)
Quote from: Angevinus on March 16, 2009, 08:24:31 AM
I don't know about that. I've seen awesome druid tanks, not to mention healers and moonkins who topped raid dps. Like paladins and shaman, they can shine at multiple roles!
In my days as a paladin, I've been a shitty dps, a decent tank, and a legendary healer. Its all about gear, talents and play style. 8)
Legendary huh. Be careful not to break your arm.
I agree with Jaron.
Druids seem to perform very well as tanks and healers - in my days as a healer paladin, I think druid tanks are among my favourite ones (along with paladin ones), with DKs being the least favourite. Druids can take a lot of punishment, and usually have the highest hp of all tanks (it's not uncommon to have druids with 40k health or more in a bear form) which makes them very efficient targets for my mega-heals.
And in a raid, I love being a healer alongside a druid healer, because we complement each other so well, with druids being great in keeping the raid alive with their AoE heals and HoTs, and me being the best at keeping the tank alive with my singe target nuke-heals and ability to get out of most stuns and similar effects. My least favourite healers are, strangely enough (strangely, because they are supposed to be specialists at that) priests, mainly because they die so easily (again, as a pally healer I can get out alive in most situations where I get aggro by some mistake or bad luck; whereas with priests it seems to be one mistake and you get the angel pop up).
As for dps, druids do not outshine other classes, but a boomkin raid passive buffs are nice to have.
All in all, druids are the only class more versatile than paladins and shamans imo (because paladins can do melee dps, tanking and healing; shamans can do melee dps, healing and ranged dps; and druids can do all four roles).
Quote from: Martinus on March 16, 2009, 09:32:25 AM
As for dps, druids do not outshine other classes, but a boomkin raid passive buffs are nice to have.
we can 8)
Well I seriously doubt I'll ever raid with this druid - or even get him to 80.
But I've also been reminded how easy it can be to make money with herbalism. :)
Korea apperently quit the game forever. I have no idea why.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 16, 2009, 11:49:18 PM
Korea apperently quit the game forever. I have no idea why.
:D :D
Okay, so I'm not quitting forever. But man I'm so mad at this stupid fucking game and their stupid fucking respawn rate! When I'm on a collection quest it takes 50 fucking years for respawns but when I'm trying to get a stupid fucking captain all the fucking guards spawn as soon as I kill them (exaggeration)
Ugh!
:D
Quote from: Barrister on March 16, 2009, 01:09:04 PM
Well I seriously doubt I'll ever raid with this druid - or even get him to 80.
But I've also been reminded how easy it can be to make money with herbalism. :)
I'm finding that it's ridiculously easy to make money with inscription. People will pay huge amounts of money for major glyphs I can make with the crappiest paper and ink made from peacebloom and silverleaf. ???
Quote from: Korea on March 17, 2009, 05:21:37 AM
Okay, so I'm not quitting forever. But man I'm so mad at this stupid fucking game and their stupid fucking respawn rate! When I'm on a collection quest it takes 50 fucking years for respawns but when I'm trying to get a stupid fucking captain all the fucking guards spawn as soon as I kill them (exaggeration)
Ugh!
I am reminded they upped the respawn rate or something. I was killing furbolgs and at one point I would kill a bunch of mobs then those evry same mobs would respawn before I even finished looting their corpses!
Quote from: Barrister on March 17, 2009, 10:25:58 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 17, 2009, 05:21:37 AM
Okay, so I'm not quitting forever. But man I'm so mad at this stupid fucking game and their stupid fucking respawn rate! When I'm on a collection quest it takes 50 fucking years for respawns but when I'm trying to get a stupid fucking captain all the fucking guards spawn as soon as I kill them (exaggeration)
Ugh!
I am reminded they upped the respawn rate or something. I was killing furbolgs and at one point I would kill a bunch of mobs then those evry same mobs would respawn before I even finished looting their corpses!
Yes! Very annoying!!
:D :D
I don't think they upped it, but I think it is linked to a number of people in a zone.
Made another 25 gold last night off of glyphs made from crap parchment and mushed-up silverleaf and peacebloom. Most profitable production skill EVAR. 8)
Quote from: Caliga on March 18, 2009, 06:52:07 AM
Made another 25 gold last night off of glyphs made from crap parchment and mushed-up silverleaf and peacebloom. Most profitable production skill EVAR. 8)
:D
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 18, 2009, 08:34:06 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 18, 2009, 06:52:07 AM
Made another 25 gold last night off of glyphs made from crap parchment and mushed-up silverleaf and peacebloom. Most profitable production skill EVAR. 8)
:D
You're not Habbaku, why are you laughing?
2nd epic flyer incoming on my DK this evening. Woot!
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 18, 2009, 08:34:06 AM
Quote from: Caliga on March 18, 2009, 06:52:07 AM
Made another 25 gold last night off of glyphs made from crap parchment and mushed-up silverleaf and peacebloom. Most profitable production skill EVAR. 8)
:D
My point was that's alot of money to make from a few herbs and crappy parchment. ::)
Quote from: Stonewall on March 18, 2009, 01:53:47 PM
2nd epic flyer incoming on my DK this evening. Woot!
Congrats I got my albino drake for collecting 50 mounts. ???
Well, the recruit a friend triple XP is finally kicking it! I dinged like 3 times in an hour last night!
Quote from: Korea on March 19, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
Well, the recruit a friend triple XP is finally kicking it! I dinged like 3 times in an hour last night!
Who did you end up getting it from?
She's finially catching up.
Quote from: Caliga on March 19, 2009, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 19, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
Well, the recruit a friend triple XP is finally kicking it! I dinged like 3 times in an hour last night!
Who did you end up getting it from?
My friend Tony (pimpicus on here)
I bought him the game and 3 months of wow though :( Still waiting on my sweet ass mount though.
Why can't he afford the game himself? :-\
That was a long quit cycle.
Quote from: Caliga on March 19, 2009, 01:34:44 PM
Why can't he afford the game himself? :-\
He is a Jew. 'Nuff said. :P
Quote from: Caliga on March 19, 2009, 08:49:41 AM
My point was that's alot of money to make from a few herbs and crappy parchment. ::)
Hence the laughter. :D
All the dudes in my guild like to send me gold. I've had two dudes send me 10 gold a piece. One dude sent me 50 gold and most recently a dude sent me 75 gold.
Sweeeeeeet. :-*
Question: Who comes off as more "French" to you, Night Elves or Blood Elves? This is in comparison to dwarves = Scottish, Tauren = Native American, Trolls = Carribean, Draenei = Eastern European, etc.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 02:01:21 AM
Question: Who comes off as more "French" to you, Night Elves or Blood Elves? This is in comparison to dwarves = Scottish, Tauren = Native American, Trolls = Carribean, Draenei = Eastern European, etc.
Blood elves
Night elves are granola eating canadians...like a saskganesh
Quote from: katmai on March 21, 2009, 02:30:46 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 02:01:21 AM
Question: Who comes off as more "French" to you, Night Elves or Blood Elves? This is in comparison to dwarves = Scottish, Tauren = Native American, Trolls = Carribean, Draenei = Eastern European, etc.
Blood elves
Night elves are granola eating canadians...like a saskganesh
The Blood Elves don't seem French to me. Just more Sociopathic. The Night Elves... well the whole north of Kalimdor is like the Pacific northwest.
Why do Dwarves always get a Scottish accent? It's a shame they didn't bower the orcish accents from Warhammer (along with everything else).
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 02:01:21 AM
Question: Who comes off as more "French" to you, Night Elves or Blood Elves? This is in comparison to dwarves = Scottish, Tauren = Native American, Trolls = Carribean, Draenei = Eastern European, etc.
Blood Elves are not French. They are gay. There is a fine difference. For example, we take showers regularly.
Also, the Forsaken are clearly British.
Why are their Tauren in the Moonglade?
Quote from: Korea on March 21, 2009, 08:40:06 AM
Why are their Tauren in the Moonglade?
Uhm because they are druids...
Hm...I just thought it was weird because Taurens and Nightelves were hanging together. Tauren is horde right?
Quote from: Korea on March 21, 2009, 09:55:01 AM
Hm...I just thought it was weird because Taurens and Nightelves were hanging together. Tauren is horde right?
Wrong. Thunder Bluff alligned Tauren are horde. There are many other Tauren in the world who are neutral or hostile to both factions.
Besides, Tauren and Night Elves still see eye-to-eye even if they are allied with factions that are formally at war with each other. The Cenarion Circle is an example of such cooperation - and it counts both Staghelm, the High Druid of the Nigh Elves of Darnassus and the Archdruid Runetotem of Thunderbluff as its members.
I suppose from their perspective, an average night elf would side with the tauren more happily than with a dwarf - and likewise, an average tauren would prefer a night elf to a Forsaken (or a blood elf). I am not familiar with the basis for the Night Elf alliance to the Alliance, but for the Tauren, they followed Thrall when he arrived in Kalimdor and helped them against the Kolkar centaur (who were at the time on the verge of exterminating the tauren).
Quote from: Martinus on March 21, 2009, 05:22:25 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on March 21, 2009, 02:01:21 AM
Question: Who comes off as more "French" to you, Night Elves or Blood Elves? This is in comparison to dwarves = Scottish, Tauren = Native American, Trolls = Carribean, Draenei = Eastern European, etc.
Blood Elves are not French. They are gay. There is a fine difference. For example, we take showers regularly.
Also, the Forsaken are clearly British.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZGNLvvFzXc&feature=related
Quote from: Martinus on March 21, 2009, 11:42:45 AM
Besides, Tauren and Night Elves still see eye-to-eye even if they are allied with factions that are formally at war with each other. The Cenarion Circle is an example of such cooperation - and it counts both Staghelm, the High Druid of the Nigh Elves of Darnassus and the Archdruid Runetotem of Thunderbluff as its members.
I suppose from their perspective, an average night elf would side with the tauren more happily than with a dwarf - and likewise, an average tauren would prefer a night elf to a Forsaken (or a blood elf). I am not familiar with the basis for the Night Elf alliance to the Alliance, but for the Tauren, they followed Thrall when he arrived in Kalimdor and helped them against the Kolkar centaur (who were at the time on the verge of exterminating the tauren).
Fendral Staghelm is a major jackass though.
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on March 21, 2009, 11:26:01 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 21, 2009, 09:55:01 AM
Hm...I just thought it was weird because Taurens and Nightelves were hanging together. Tauren is horde right?
Wrong. Thunder Bluff alligned Tauren are horde. There are many other Tauren in the world who are neutral or hostile to both factions.
Oh okay. Cool.
Korea left me. On an island. Surrounded by sharks. >:(
Quote from: Razgovory on March 22, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Korea left me. On an island. Surrounded by sharks. >:(
:nelson:
Quote from: Razgovory on March 22, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Korea left me. On an island. Surrounded by sharks. >:(
Lol, sorry bout that!
Quote from: Cecil on March 21, 2009, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 21, 2009, 11:42:45 AM
Besides, Tauren and Night Elves still see eye-to-eye even if they are allied with factions that are formally at war with each other. The Cenarion Circle is an example of such cooperation - and it counts both Staghelm, the High Druid of the Nigh Elves of Darnassus and the Archdruid Runetotem of Thunderbluff as its members.
I suppose from their perspective, an average night elf would side with the tauren more happily than with a dwarf - and likewise, an average tauren would prefer a night elf to a Forsaken (or a blood elf). I am not familiar with the basis for the Night Elf alliance to the Alliance, but for the Tauren, they followed Thrall when he arrived in Kalimdor and helped them against the Kolkar centaur (who were at the time on the verge of exterminating the tauren).
Fendral Staghelm is a major jackass though.
Yeah but he had a major tragedy which changed him.
Quote from: Martinus on March 22, 2009, 02:33:40 PM
Quote from: Cecil on March 21, 2009, 12:47:32 PM
Fendral Staghelm is a major jackass though.
Yeah but he had a major tragedy which changed him.
Thousands of years has passed. You´d think he would be over it by now.
Quote from: Korea on March 22, 2009, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 22, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Korea left me. On an island. Surrounded by sharks. >:(
Lol, sorry bout that!
Yeah what was that all about? Haven't heard from ya since.
I am starting to enjoy my druid now that Iève hit the 20s, and got cat form.
With my wife playing her rogue, I can happily shift into bear and charge a group of 3-4 mobs and tank with ease. 1v1 I pop into catform. After the fight I just pop back to regular form cast some heals and Ièm good to go.
Long distance travel is much easier with the slight feral speed bonus. And grouping with a rogue means we can both sneak around large groups of mobs we donèt want to fight.
:D
Dude, why is your keyboard not in English?
Quote from: Razgovory on March 22, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: Korea on March 22, 2009, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 22, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Korea left me. On an island. Surrounded by sharks. >:(
Lol, sorry bout that!
Yeah what was that all about? Haven't heard from ya since.
I sent you messages last night to come play wow. You didn't get them?
I think I had a headache and quit...
Remarkably, at 2 in the morning, I was asleep.
one more heroic achievement for my Red Proto Drake!
Katmai - you dodging volcanos? Have not seen online lately. :cry:
Lndhand and I have both dinged 80 on our DK's. Need to get your pally involved healing our heroic runs, Kat.
Sat i was at a workshop getting to handle Sony's $150k HD cameras
Won't be on much till friday again except to raid Thur night, sadly.
Dammit! Where the Hell is Korea?
Sorry Raz I've been working a lot. I don't think I'm going to get to play until next week. :(
Quote from: Korea on March 25, 2009, 10:40:51 PM
Sorry Raz I've been working a lot. I don't think I'm going to get to play until next week. :(
I R Sad. I created a Horde Character on 'Hoof to pass the time, but it's not the same.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2009, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 25, 2009, 10:40:51 PM
Sorry Raz I've been working a lot. I don't think I'm going to get to play until next week. :(
I R Sad. I created a Horde Character on 'Hoof to pass the time, but it's not the same.
I have a level 8 orc mage on Hoff.
Sorry. :( After this week I should be able to get a few good hours of wow in. But I have to work like a lot until monday or tuesdays. :( I R Tired.
Quote from: Korea on March 27, 2009, 02:15:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2009, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 25, 2009, 10:40:51 PM
Sorry Raz I've been working a lot. I don't think I'm going to get to play until next week. :(
I R Sad. I created a Horde Character on 'Hoof to pass the time, but it's not the same.
I have a level 8 orc mage on Hoff.
Sorry. :( After this week I should be able to get a few good hours of wow in. But I have to work like a lot until monday or tuesdays. :( I R Tired.
Well hurry up. I want to go to the Crimson monestary! Also I want your advice on other topics. Stop being so busy.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 27, 2009, 06:43:39 AM
Well hurry up. I want to go to the Crimson monestary! Also I want your advice on other topics. Stop being so busy.
On the behalf of myself & the other Wow thread readers, Hi
If it's about WoW ask away, we know more then Korea.
If it's about you're little internet fling with Korea or anything else really : spill it or STFU.
Aw, Grey Fox is sour. :(
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2009, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 25, 2009, 10:40:51 PM
Sorry Raz I've been working a lot. I don't think I'm going to get to play until next week. :(
I R Sad. I created a Horde Character on 'Hoof to pass the time, but it's not the same.
Have you leveled at all? I am 43 still
Quote from: Korea on March 29, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2009, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 25, 2009, 10:40:51 PM
Sorry Raz I've been working a lot. I don't think I'm going to get to play until next week. :(
I R Sad. I created a Horde Character on 'Hoof to pass the time, but it's not the same.
Have you leveled at all? I am 43 still
Woah. I had no idea you were that high up. I forgot what level I am. 40 something.
Oh and I need heavy leather. Lots of it.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 29, 2009, 09:51:51 PM
Quote from: Korea on March 29, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 26, 2009, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: Korea on March 25, 2009, 10:40:51 PM
Sorry Raz I've been working a lot. I don't think I'm going to get to play until next week. :(
I R Sad. I created a Horde Character on 'Hoof to pass the time, but it's not the same.
Have you leveled at all? I am 43 still
Woah. I had no idea you were that high up. I forgot what level I am. 40 something.
Oh and I need heavy leather. Lots of it.
No prob. I get heavy or thick leather every time I skin now. Did I tell you that I am an artisan skinner now? :cool:
The problem with getting mounts at level 30 is that without a high-level toon feeding you money its pretty damn hard to get 100g by that level. :(
Quote from: Barrister on March 31, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
The problem with getting mounts at level 30 is that without a high-level toon feeding you money its pretty damn hard to get 100g by that level. :(
That's for sure.
Lucky for me I have boobs so my guild was all too happy ti fork over a lot of gold.
Quote from: Barrister on March 31, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
The problem with getting mounts at level 30 is that without a high-level toon feeding you money its pretty damn hard to get 100g by that level. :(
It's about 40g, and it really isn't that hard. In fact I just did it on a lowbie alt. Selling mats on the AH, being careful about spending. Had well over 100g at 30 and mount time. I do remember the days that 100g took what seemed like for ever to get! Now it seems much easier having more exp on earning cash. I just tend to not do it since my mains have the cash to help my alts.
Quote from: Korea on March 31, 2009, 11:47:32 AM
Lucky for me I have boobs...
Pics or it didn't happen.
Well let me rephrase.
I've been both saving like made and selling anything I can get my hands on, and I'm at about 50-some gold at lvl 26 (probably spent 20g on some 14 slot bags), but only because I both know how to make money and know that a mount is coming up.
For a first time player though it's almost impossible without outside help.
Quote from: Barrister on March 31, 2009, 02:56:31 PM
Well let me rephrase.
I've been both saving like made and selling anything I can get my hands on, and I'm at about 50-some gold at lvl 26 (probably spent 20g on some 14 slot bags), but only because I both know how to make money and know that a mount is coming up.
For a first time player though it's almost impossible without outside help.
http://languish.org/forums/index.php?topic=220.0 (http://languish.org/forums/index.php?topic=220.0)
I'm only playing because my wife started playing.
We killed crocolisks in the Wetlands together last night.
Just canceled my subscription, haven't been playing enough lately to justify it.
Probably be back in a month. :rolleyes:
Deleted my dwarf hunter alt last night. Will keep my human mage since she's 80 though. Later with some new content perhaps I'll be back. Btw - how long does Blizzard keep an account suspended after your subscription finishes ?
In other news I've been trying to sell my Guild Bank (4 tabs) since I stopped playing regularly and it's absurd the prices I'm being offered: 600g for a 4 tabs bank full of stuff ?!!
I despise people !
G.
Quote from: Grallon on April 02, 2009, 11:14:57 AM
Deleted my dwarf hunter alt last night. Will keep my human mage since she's 80 though. Later with some new content perhaps I'll be back. Btw - how long does Blizzard keep an account suspended after your subscription finishes ?
In other news I've been trying to sell my Guild Bank (4 tabs) since I stopped playing regularly and it's absurd the prices I'm being offered: 600g for a 4 tabs bank full of stuff ?!!
I despise people !
Blizzard will keep your account
forever. The account (and its characters) will never be deleted.
And most people want to pick their own guild name, so I can understand why you're not getting many offers.
Quote from: Barrister on April 02, 2009, 11:18:40 AM
And most people want to pick their own guild name, so I can understand why you're not getting many offers.
I thought once you owned the guild charter you could rename it at will !? Or did I dream that ?
G.
Quote from: Barrister on March 31, 2009, 02:56:31 PM
Well let me rephrase.
I've been both saving like made and selling anything I can get my hands on, and I'm at about 50-some gold at lvl 26 (probably spent 20g on some 14 slot bags), but only because I both know how to make money and know that a mount is coming up.
For a first time player though it's almost impossible without outside help.
Pfft, no it isn't. Just mine and sell. You will have plenty of gold.
Quote from: Berkut on April 02, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Barrister on March 31, 2009, 02:56:31 PM
Well let me rephrase.
I've been both saving like made and selling anything I can get my hands on, and I'm at about 50-some gold at lvl 26 (probably spent 20g on some 14 slot bags), but only because I both know how to make money and know that a mount is coming up.
For a first time player though it's almost impossible without outside help.
Pfft, no it isn't. Just mine and sell. You will have plenty of gold.
But what if you don't want to mine?
I'm currently alch/herb, and my wife is leather/skinner. We're both selling all excess herbs/ skins, but trying to level our other profession as well...
Quote from: Barrister on April 02, 2009, 11:30:32 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 02, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Barrister on March 31, 2009, 02:56:31 PM
Well let me rephrase.
I've been both saving like made and selling anything I can get my hands on, and I'm at about 50-some gold at lvl 26 (probably spent 20g on some 14 slot bags), but only because I both know how to make money and know that a mount is coming up.
For a first time player though it's almost impossible without outside help.
Pfft, no it isn't. Just mine and sell. You will have plenty of gold.
But what if you don't want to mine?
I'm currently alch/herb, and my wife is leather/skinner. We're both selling all excess herbs/ skins, but trying to level our other profession as well...
Then do any other gathering profession and sell the proceeds.
If you do not wish to sell the proceeds, then that is certainly your choice. But it is a choice.
Even then, getting enough gold for a mount is easy. Just don't buy stuff on the AH. Ever. It's not like there is anything there you *need*.
Quote from: Barrister on April 02, 2009, 11:30:32 AM
But what if you don't want to mine?
I'm currently alch/herb, and my wife is leather/skinner. We're both selling all excess herbs/ skins, but trying to level our other profession as well...
You seem to be one of those people who is under the misconception that WoW stands for World of Warcraft.
Well, it doesn't. It stands for What others Want. What spec, skill set, professions, playstyle, etc, and so on others want you to be. :cool:
Quote from: Berkut on April 02, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
Even then, getting enough gold for a mount is easy. Just don't buy stuff on the AH. Ever. It's not like there is anything there you *need*.
I'm no spendthrift. I willingly spent about 20g on some bags (money well spent), but beyond that I've bought NOTHING on the AH.
Sheesh - I never said getting money was impossible. I said that if you're a first-time player who doesn't know all the tricks to the game it's damn hard.
Things like 'be sure to get a gathering profession' and 'never buy anything on the AH' aren't exactly on the in-game tips.
Quote from: Barrister on April 02, 2009, 12:20:06 PM
Sheesh - I never said getting money was impossible. I said that if you're a first-time player who doesn't know all the tricks to the game it's damn hard.
Things like 'be sure to get a gathering profession' and 'never buy anything on the AH' aren't exactly on the in-game tips.
See, I guess I am just an asshole.
If you are a first time player, it is easy to find out this information though - just ask someone. join a guild. This is an MMO, right?
One of the people I play MMO with, a good RL friend, just doesn't get this. He loves MMOs, but wants to play them solo for the most part. Not sure why, but it is very annoying when we group and he as shit gear because he refuses to ask anyone anything.
Quote from: Barrister on April 02, 2009, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 02, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
Even then, getting enough gold for a mount is easy. Just don't buy stuff on the AH. Ever. It's not like there is anything there you *need*.
I'm no spendthrift. I willingly spent about 20g on some bags (money well spent), but beyond that I've bought NOTHING on the AH.
Sheesh - I never said getting money was impossible. I said that if you're a first-time player who doesn't know all the tricks to the game it's damn hard.
Things like 'be sure to get a gathering profession' and 'never buy anything on the AH' aren't exactly on the in-game tips.
Maybe it has been a while since they were first time players but I agree with you since I'm a newb. I was able to afford my mount because my guild gave me some gold. I was only like 10 gold away though.
Quote from: Berkut on April 02, 2009, 12:39:43 PM
One of the people I play MMO with, a good RL friend, just doesn't get this. He loves MMOs, but wants to play them solo for the most part. Not sure why, but it is very annoying when we group and he as shit gear because he refuses to ask anyone anything.
But since I'm levelling a toon up I can see why he might. The people you run into in the newbie zones at this point are either people levelling their 11ty-biollionth alt (and thus rushing to get out of there), or are other people who are completely clueless as well.
I really hate getting spammed group and/or guild invites with no warning or request...
Btw, I don't know how unknown this bit of info is, but I found out today that you can actually open portals for your alts if you don't have any mage friends, but have a mage alt.
Just move your alt and your mage to more or less the same spot. Then log your mage and form a group (I tried with two other people to make sure the party stays after I log off - probably it should work with just one other person). Open the portal. Log out. Log in your alt. Have the group leader invite you. And voila, you can use the portal you just opened as your alt. :)
Edit: Coming to think about it, now that warlocks open summoning portals that stay in game, I suppose you can do the same with a warlock. The benefit of doing this as a mage, I suppose, is that your two party members can be anywhere else in the world, whereas if you want to get summoned through a warlock portal, you will need to have them on the spot.
Quote from: Korea on April 02, 2009, 12:40:05 PM
Maybe it has been a while since they were first time players but I agree with you since I'm a newb. I was able to afford my mount because my guild gave me some gold. I was only like 10 gold away though.
She later left the guild and joined another.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2009, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: Korea on April 02, 2009, 12:40:05 PM
Maybe it has been a while since they were first time players but I agree with you since I'm a newb. I was able to afford my mount because my guild gave me some gold. I was only like 10 gold away though.
She later left the guild and joined another.
She is starting down the dark path of the J. Next step is cleaning out the bank vault before she goes.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2009, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: Korea on April 02, 2009, 12:40:05 PM
Maybe it has been a while since they were first time players but I agree with you since I'm a newb. I was able to afford my mount because my guild gave me some gold. I was only like 10 gold away though.
She later left the guild and joined another.
Yeah but I joined the guild that the guy who gave me all the money started. So it's all good.
Teach,
Your application for Tempest was filled out incorrectly. Need to go back and fill it out based on the instructions. I.e. copy the entire application and then paste your responses straight into the app itself.
Quote from: Stonewall on April 08, 2009, 09:03:52 AM
Teach,
Your application for Tempest was filled out incorrectly. Need to go back and fill it out based on the instructions. I.e. copy the entire application and then paste your responses straight into the app itself.
Eh didn't he just cancel his subscription last week?
Quote from: katmai on April 08, 2009, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on April 08, 2009, 09:03:52 AM
Teach,
Your application for Tempest was filled out incorrectly. Need to go back and fill it out based on the instructions. I.e. copy the entire application and then paste your responses straight into the app itself.
Eh didn't he just cancel his subscription last week?
Filled out the application several weeks ago.
Quote from: katmai on April 08, 2009, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on April 08, 2009, 09:03:52 AM
Teach,
Your application for Tempest was filled out incorrectly. Need to go back and fill it out based on the instructions. I.e. copy the entire application and then paste your responses straight into the app itself.
Eh didn't he just cancel his subscription last week?
I suppose that would explain why I haven't seen him online lately. :(
You have nice tits, Stonewall. :)
You should reupload that image now that avatar size limits have been increased. :)
Between all the other things Blizzard did to make levelling easier (increased XPs, no elite monsters out of dungeons) did they make professions easier? I'm actually capped or nearly capped in a few and am just waiting to hit lvl 35 so I can get Artisan, and I don't think I ever had that problem before...
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
Between all the other things Blizzard did to make levelling easier (increased XPs, no elite monsters out of dungeons) did they make professions easier?
:yes:
What exactly did they do?
And Kat (or any other druid expert), I have a question for you. At some point I'm going to start putting together some different gear sets (probably separate tanking and cat DPS, plus a healing set). What sort of stats should I look for for each type?
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 11:20:03 AM
What exactly did they do?
And Kat (or any other druid expert), I have a question for you. At some point I'm going to start putting together some different gear sets (probably separate tanking and cat DPS, plus a healing set). What sort of stats should I look for for each type?
Well cat and bear sets are kinda streamlined since LK. With 3.1 patch the stats are going to be agi, str,stam, crit. Haste is alright but not needed so much by melee druids and hit is needed if trying to raid but with just lvling not so much.
healing it's sp, spirit,haste, crit, int
So there's no real need for a separate cat and bear set?
I guess the other question would be whether its worthwhile to do a balance/spellcasting set...
Quote from: Barrister on April 09, 2009, 12:18:01 PM
So there's no real need for a separate cat and bear set?
I guess the other question would be whether its worthwhile to do a balance/spellcasting set...
If not raiding no.
I mean gear will work for both, some stuff will have a bit more crit and agi, other will have more stam and str, so then it comes down to preference in stats.
Of course tanking is being changed up quite a bit in 3.1 as druids are losing lot of health and armor but gaining a quasi shield based on you criting on attacks.
Balance set-only if planning to be a healer and want more offensive gear when solo questing. or planning to be a turkey full time.
So is 3.1 out today? :unsure:
Cool?
Expect to not be able to play for at least a day. :)
I dunno - some major patches have gone very smoothly for Blizzard.
Not all though.
[cdm] LOLZ wowtards [/cdm]
:unsure:
Wow, they changed a SHITLOAD of stuff. It's like WoW 1 1/2 now.
Quote from: Caliga on April 14, 2009, 09:27:46 PM
Wow, they changed a SHITLOAD of stuff. It's like WoW 1 1/2 now.
Like?
Dual spec for once is quite the game changer.
Other than dual specs:
* significant changes to the graphics (a new ultra high texture mode, newer shadow model with a higher level mode, some new texture drawing method or something)
* hearthstone cooldown reduced to 30 minutes
* Lexicons of Power go bye-bye (you can glyph up anywhere)
* new quest tracking features that I think were copied from QuestHelper
* some new LFG features allowing you to ask for specific roles (tank, healer) and declare yourself as such
* the Nat Pagle and Dirk Quickcleave fishing/cooking quests went bye-bye
* totally new graphics for glyph icons that help tell what class each glyph is for, supposedly
There are tons of miscellaneous changes like the above, but that's what I could think of off the top of my head.
* the Nat Pagle and Dirk Quickcleave fishing/cooking quests went bye-bye
:o
I've just spent a bunch of time trying to finish the cooking quest!
LOL, with my main on Ravencrest I finished it the day before the patch dropped. :Embarrass:
None of that shit is revolutionary Cal.
I heard they were also getting rid of twink enchants/librams/assorted overleveled gear. Did that go through?
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 15, 2009, 04:07:05 PM
None of that shit is revolutionary Cal.
I heard they were also getting rid of twink enchants/librams/assorted overleveled gear. Did that go through?
From posts in customer service of people bitching about how they wasted enchants on twinks, i'd say yes, yes they did.
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2009, 06:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 15, 2009, 04:07:05 PM
None of that shit is revolutionary Cal.
I heard they were also getting rid of twink enchants/librams/assorted overleveled gear. Did that go through?
From posts in customer service of people bitching about how they wasted enchants on twinks, i'd say yes, yes they did.
People have bitched without reason before...
Of course I get some free time and the login server is down from my area. :mad:
So, why doesn't my questhelper show up anymore? Do I need to do something in the addons folder or what?
Quote from: Korea on April 17, 2009, 10:14:32 AM
So, why doesn't my questhelper show up anymore? Do I need to do something in the addons folder or what?
Get the newest version... he's updated it for patch 3.1
k thanks
Just reached 41 on my ally druid.
Had only been playing to play with my wife, but as I'm hitting 40 or so it's really getting fun. I've only ever had one ally character at a high level (hit 43 with a lock way back on Dalaran), so I'm doing some quests that I only did 4 years ago, and will soon hit quests I've never done before.
:)
I hate to say this but I really do think the Alliance quests are better done, at least in WoW classic. I didn't notice as big a difference in Outlands/BC and I have yet to do Alliance in Northrend (but the Horde-specific quests there are great IMO).
yeah it's true, although quests are definitely worse anyway in the classic.
Definitely... but with the Horde there are more quests that are like "lol here's a bullshit thin premise, now go kill 100 animals to gather 10 random animal body parts for me"
There's also, in classic, around 200 more alliance quests.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 05:06:18 PM
There's also, in classic, around 200 more alliance quests.
Really? Did not know that. Overall it always felt to me like Blizzard put more work into the Alliance in general. I think the Alliance cities *look* better, for example, though I appreciate the more imaginative concept design that went into the Horde ones.
Quote from: Caliga on April 21, 2009, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 05:06:18 PM
There's also, in classic, around 200 more alliance quests.
Really? Did not know that. Overall it always felt to me like Blizzard put more work into the Alliance in general. I think the Alliance cities *look* better, for example, though I appreciate the more imaginative concept design that went into the Horde ones.
Except that Silvermoon beats Exodar about 100 different ways...
Quote from: Barrister on April 21, 2009, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 21, 2009, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 21, 2009, 05:06:18 PM
There's also, in classic, around 200 more alliance quests.
Really? Did not know that. Overall it always felt to me like Blizzard put more work into the Alliance in general. I think the Alliance cities *look* better, for example, though I appreciate the more imaginative concept design that went into the Horde ones.
Except that Silvermoon beats Exodar about 100 different ways...
I think Cal is talking mainly about vanilla. Stormwind is definitely better developed than Orgrimmar, for example. And I don't mean design/outlook - there are many more NPCs - the city seems to be "living" more.
Quote from: Martinus on April 23, 2009, 10:46:08 AMI think Cal is talking mainly about vanilla. Stormwind is definitely better developed than Orgrimmar, for example. And I don't mean design/outlook - there are many more NPCs - the city seems to be "living" more.
:yes:
I find Orgrimmar to be completely unimpressive... considering the fact that it's supposed to be the Horde 'Capital' I'm shocked at how crappy it is. IMO it's the worst Horde city. Silvermoon is the best but that's understandable since it was developed later. I would rank them: Silvermoon, Thunder Bluff, Lordaeron, Orgrimmar. Lordaeron loses points because accessing it is too inefficient (though the abandoned throne room and stuff is cool the first time you see it).
Well, I'm finally playing again.
Noblegarden :bleeding:
Cancelled my subscription yesterday.
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
Cancelled my subscription yesterday.
Playing LOTRO instead?
Quote from: Barrister on April 27, 2009, 04:58:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 27, 2009, 04:48:52 PM
Cancelled my subscription yesterday.
Playing LOTRO instead?
Been busy with work to the point was g-kicked :lol:
Don't feel like going through process of joining new guild/and have time or inclination needed to run with friends still playing who are working in Uldar.
EvE's progression let's me feel like doing something even if i only get to log in for 15-20 mins a night and do some agent missions and setup skill training.
as for Lotro..i have lifetime subscription so it's on my HD and enjoyed warden class, but work also made it where i've been passed by all the folks playing it.
Quote from: Caliga on April 27, 2009, 09:14:08 AM
Noblegarden :bleeding:
Ok so I'm now trying to get the title. :ph34r:
This thread has been: unusually quiet. Am I the only one still playing WoW?
I'm still playing. :)
*raises hand* Me too.
I am still playing as well. I finally settled on my priest (over my mage or DK) as my main toon. LOL. I have run Naxx a few times, which largly geared the priest enough such that I am now running Uludar with the guild. Stonewall and I have also been doing arenas pretty hard core with another bud of ours. That is some fun shit.
Kat -- we can get you in Tempest if you decide to come back. Great guild man.
Cheers.
Tempest was awesome, yes. I miss them :s
Thanks lnd, if I decide to comeback some time i'll let you know.
I haven't played in a while. I stopped when Korea because Korea stopped and I didn't want to play alone. Also I was getting bored.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 21, 2009, 05:29:50 PM
Tempest was awesome, yes. I miss them :s
We miss you too man. We would get you in the guild too! :hug:
New Tauren Druid bear forms in the works according to the front page. Look pretty cool. Figured I'd toss them up here for the old players who may not go to the website anymore:
Yeah they mentioned a while back they were finally getting to work on the druid animal forms. Overdue imo.
Now if they only made a playable Taunka skin for the Tauren.... :Canuck:
Quote from: katmai on May 27, 2009, 02:02:17 AM
Yeah they mentioned a while back they were finally getting to work on the druid animal forms. Overdue imo.
Is that gonna be based on the druid's normal skin tone, or user-selectable, or what?
...or more likely, you need to kill a million mobs to grind some dumb token to get each one. :lol:
Quote from: Caliga on May 27, 2009, 07:09:21 AM
...or more likely, you need to kill a million mobs to grind some dumb token to get each one. :lol:
This. :D
If you follow the link it turns out the bear and cat skins will change based simply on your hair colour. Different hair colours are linked to different skins.
Also - why no differing moonkin or tree forms? :huh:
Quote from: Barrister on May 27, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
If you follow the link it turns out the bear and cat skins will change based simply on your hair colour. Different hair colours are linked to different skins.
Also - why no differing moonkin or tree forms? :huh:
Said they were wanting to work on them, which means you'll see them sometime in 2011.
Quote from: Barrister on May 27, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
If you follow the link it turns out the bear and cat skins will change based simply on your hair colour. Different hair colours are linked to different skins.
Also - why no differing moonkin or tree forms? :huh:
Skin pattern? Tauren all have black hair.
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 06:55:16 AM
This thread has been: unusually quiet. Am I the only one still playing WoW?
I haven't played in quite a while.
Quote from: Razgovory on May 21, 2009, 05:56:24 PM
I haven't played in a while. I stopped when Korea because Korea stopped and I didn't want to play alone. Also I was getting bored.
I'm ready to start playing with you whenever you are. Although I will be busy with work until Sunday. After that I am good to go. Wanna play?
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 06:55:16 AM
This thread has been: unusually quiet. Am I the only one still playing WoW?
I play it once a week or so now, a friend of mine and I get a little LAN together. I'm a level 62 Warrior, he's a 65 DK. I don't play nearly as much as I did before because of my new hours at work. :(
Quote from: pimpicus on May 28, 2009, 01:42:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 06:55:16 AM
This thread has been: unusually quiet. Am I the only one still playing WoW?
I play it once a week or so now, a friend of mine and I get a little LAN together. I'm a level 62 Warrior, he's a 65 DK. I don't play nearly as much as I did before because of my new hours at work. :(
Do you still have some levels to grant?
Quote from: Korea on May 28, 2009, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: pimpicus on May 28, 2009, 01:42:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 06:55:16 AM
This thread has been: unusually quiet. Am I the only one still playing WoW?
I play it once a week or so now, a friend of mine and I get a little LAN together. I'm a level 62 Warrior, he's a 65 DK. I don't play nearly as much as I did before because of my new hours at work. :(
Do you still have some levels to grant?
I don't know how to check.
Quote from: pimpicus on May 28, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Korea on May 28, 2009, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: pimpicus on May 28, 2009, 01:42:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2009, 06:55:16 AM
This thread has been: unusually quiet. Am I the only one still playing WoW?
I play it once a week or so now, a friend of mine and I get a little LAN together. I'm a level 62 Warrior, he's a 65 DK. I don't play nearly as much as I did before because of my new hours at work. :(
Do you still have some levels to grant?
I don't know how to check.
Well, let us log on and you try to grant me some levels.
Okay, so my stupid kittens did something to my wow and all of the buttons and interface have disappeared. How do I get it back?
nevermind
Somebody here really fucking pissed me off today! :mad:
me?
Quote from: Korea on June 01, 2009, 11:03:30 PM
me?
No. Someone else here who interupted a fine crap!
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2009, 10:44:57 PM
Somebody here really fucking pissed me off today! :mad:
Sorry. :sadblush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deYn_efItS0
At least he has chicken... and the cat's not getting any! :menace:
Quote from: Barrister on June 02, 2009, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2009, 10:44:57 PM
Somebody here really fucking pissed me off today! :mad:
Sorry. :sadblush:
I could never be mad at you. Your like Jack McCoy with snow shoes. :)
This has to be the most annoying boss voice ever in the game. :cry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x56ZWfZNi4Q
So...
What's the best spec for a DPS death knight?
balance
I think unholy is the current love child. You should look at the death knight entry on wowwiki, they have some sample specs you could try out.
My DK is specced blood. I haven't played him in a few patches, but at that time he was absurdly overpowered. At lvl 59 I soloed that lich guy in Andorhal.
I'm thinking of going Unholy. I want a little zombie pet. :wub:
Blizzard has announced that, in future, they will allow cross-faction transfers.
:lol:
Yeah i read that.
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
Blizzard has announced that, in future, they will allow cross-faction transfers.
:huh: Link me plz.
http://kotaku.com/5304097/wow-players-can-soon-gasp-change-sides (http://kotaku.com/5304097/wow-players-can-soon-gasp-change-sides)
Not that big of a change once you read about it. I don't see why people think rp-ers would be pissed. It doesn't really matter I would say. If they started doing things a la Everquest 2 where you could keep the same race and switch sides, then yeah, that would be a pretty major deal.
Just saw this: http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/en/news/article.aspx?aid=5878
One of the loot cards from the WoW Card Game you can use for an ingame item is a damned rooster mount. Yes, you can finally legitimately ride a cock around down. No more pretending with the belf mount, just pure cock goodness under your ass. Ugh.
I wonder how much the faction/race changing service will cost. :huh:
Ask Michael Jackson.
By the way, I'm leveling my frost DK (tank spec) and he is sweet. Tanking is very nice and he can solo his way out of most elite quests so far (I have finished the Hellfire Peninsula this morning, at level 64, and the only elite quest I needed help with was Cruel Intentions). Plus his dps is godly compared to my old Protection warrior I tried to level.
My current characters are:
Rhaegal (level 80 belf mage, arcane spec), now mostly defunct and used for making bags (tailor/enchanter)
Visseris (level 80 belf paladin, holy spec), healer now on Naxx (jewelcrafter/miner)
Maegor (level 71 orc warlock, affliction spec), PvE dps (inscription/herbalism)
Nymeros (level 64 undead DK, frost spec), tank (alchemy/herbalism)
Once I level the lock and the DK I will have a trio of raiding chars for every role (not counting the mage who I may use for PvP mayhaps).
I'm in love with my DK. I think this character was made for me. I finally don't suck at WoW.
Quote from: Korea on July 04, 2009, 01:16:45 AM
I'm in love with my DK. I think this character was made for me. I finally don't suck at WoW.
And here in a nutshell is why I quit. :lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 04, 2009, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: Korea on July 04, 2009, 01:16:45 AM
I'm in love with my DK. I think this character was made for me. I finally don't suck at WoW.
And here in a nutshell is why I quit. :lol:
You coming back sometime? :(
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 04, 2009, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: Korea on July 04, 2009, 01:16:45 AM
I'm in love with my DK. I think this character was made for me. I finally don't suck at WoW.
And here in a nutshell is why I quit. :lol:
:( I don't really suck at wow.
Quote from: Jaron on July 04, 2009, 03:34:07 PM
You coming back sometime? :(
Possibly. Not in the near future though.
Shit, that sucks. I thought you were Tancy. :P
DKs are awesome.
Quote from: Jaron on July 04, 2009, 09:24:39 PM
Shit, that sucks. I thought you were Tancy. :P
Tancy is my mage. Sorry J. :)
Finally managed to get my warrior to 70, and nexus/uk tanking. Damn that's fun.
Make sure to get the Nexus quests. There are some very sweet tanking items as rewards there. I just tanked through Nexus and got them for my DK. :cool:
Quote from: Martinus on July 06, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
Make sure to get the Nexus quests. There are some very sweet tanking items as rewards there. I just tanked through Nexus and got them for my DK. :cool:
This I did too. 2nd run was much much easier as I also got around to buying glyphs - one extra cleave rocks.
Also, charge in combat = :thumbsup:
Quote from: Liep on July 07, 2009, 07:32:43 AM
Also, charge in combat = :thumbsup:
omg nerf warriorz ;)
They are nerfed. They are the worst tanking class at the moment. :P
Ran Utgarde last night while doing a system validation for work. :blush:
Woohoo, got my first Emblem of Valor, by tanking Emalon the Storm Watcher.
And that's without a single T7 piece of gear (just epics from 5-man heroics and reputation rewards).
Would you believe that I've been playing WoW since launch and do not have a single level 80 toon? :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on July 31, 2009, 06:57:23 AM
Would you believe that I've been playing WoW since launch and do not have a single level 80 toon? :blush:
:lol:
I have 3 level 80s (a belf arcane mage, a belf holy healer paladin and a Forsaken frost tank DK) and leveling an orc (imo the only race fit to have warlocks :P) Affliction warlock (level 72 now). The mage and the healer have pieces of tier 7 gear, the tank has mostly 5-man and rep (aka "welfare") epics.
And that doesn't include all my aborted twinks and characters I stopped playing at level 60 and didn't bother bringing over from my other servers (notably, a level 60 belf warlock and a level 60 Forsaken warrior).
Well, part of my thing is that I have two accounts (one I abandoned to exploit recruit-a-friend) and about 30 toons scattered across them. On my abandoned account I have a lvl 70 priest and a lvl 68 warrior. On my new account, I have a lvl 78 mage, a lvl 73 mage, and a lvl 62 DK. Then I have like 25 other assorted toons than range in level from 12 to around 60.
Finally killed Algalon after many weeks of wipes. :)
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg269.imageshack.us%2Fimg269%2F3584%2Fwowscrnshot073109005517.jpg&hash=b83c587943ac4e742e7d9fb00eaa03c33d9dab9f)
You're only allowed one hour a week to attempt him. Thankfully Blizzard servers are always stable and you never have players DC or freeze during the run... :bleeding:
WoW Free for 1 year now, I think. Don't remember.
WoW Subs Free for 5 month.
:huh:
You know what would be awesome? If everyone I know who plays WoW played on the same server. It'd be like a 60 man guild.
3.2 is out YAY!!!
:bleeding:
Maybe that explains why I was only pulling the full client installer (all 6.5 Gb of it) at only 150k/second on Princesca's new laptop last night. :frusty:
THE CRUSADE CALLS YE MO FUCKA
Whee. Three PCs are now simultaneously downloading the patch over my connection. My connection to Languish feels like a 56k modem connection. :lol:
This won't affect I think anyone but me, and maybe Fate but..
To prepare for cross faction transfers..
They removed the restriction on making characters of both factions on a single pvp server.
Shit talking incoming. :lol:
Quote from: Jaron on August 04, 2009, 11:57:09 PM
This won't affect I think anyone but me, and maybe Fate but..
To prepare for cross faction transfers..
They removed the restriction on making characters of both factions on a single pvp server.
Shit talking incoming. :lol:
Sounds like WoW pvp finally jumped the shark.
Quote from: Jaron on August 04, 2009, 11:57:09 PM
This won't affect I think anyone but me, and maybe Fate but..
To prepare for cross faction transfers..
They removed the restriction on making characters of both factions on a single pvp server.
Shit talking incoming. :lol:
LOL I need to create an alt to shout abuse at all the fuckers who gank me. :D
Sweet jebus, what a clusterfuck.
What exactly is a clusterfuck? A word to describe someone messed up beyond belief?
Quote from: Liep on August 05, 2009, 02:58:05 AM
What exactly is a clusterfuck? A word to describe someone messed up beyond belief?
Not exactly, although it's close.
Essentially, a clusterfuck, as far as I understand it, is a situation that is messed up and complex to the degree that it is impossible to resolve/improve it, and also (often) impossible to name one guilty party or take sides. It's a situation in which you do not even know how to approach it.
Who else is unsurprised Marcin would have the definition of a clusterfuck down to a tee?
For those leveling an alt and now starting in Northrend, there is an important change to flying that I only discovered because people told me about it.
Essentially, until now you could only buy Cold Weather Flying (the skill that allows you to fly in Northrend) for yourself when you hit level 77.
Now, at level 77 you can buy a Bind-on-Account book (price is the same - 1000 gold) that teaches Cold Weather Flying (one use only) BUT that can be used by a character as low as level 68.
So this means that if you already have one level 77 character, you can buy it for your 68+ character and teach him to fly in Northrend.
Coupled with the fact that the slow flying mount was buffed from 80% to 150% speed, this makes leveling in Northrend much faster and easier.
My orc (hit level 74 this morning) is cutting through quests in Borean Tundra like a hot knife through butter. :cool:
Yeah, just read about that last night. :cool:
Good gawd, is there anything hard left in WoW?
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 06, 2009, 06:02:26 AM
Good gawd, is there anything hard left in WoW?
forcing yourself to play
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 06, 2009, 06:02:26 AM
Good gawd, is there anything hard left in WoW?
They've been pussifying the game since launch almost. I imagine it's because people whining "it's too hard! WAAAAAH" are more likely to cancel than people whining "it's too easy! WAAAAAH" :contract:
I don't think it's hard vs. easy, but rather the fact that if you are leveling your Nth alt, you can't be arsed to do the same mindless grind over and over.
That is why I think solutions like this one (or anything involving BoA items) is a good idea. People who are leveling their first character need to do the full monty, but if you are leveling an alt, it is easier.
Only the retards who cry about "welfare epics" and the like would be bothered by this stuff.
BoA items are evil in BG's. :mad:
The problem before was that a very few select players were the only ones able to see the end game stuff. Players who played casually or even just not hard core generally didn't get to see bosses like Kael'thas or Illidan.
The changes now mean about every player can see Kel'thuzad or Arthas, but the hard modes help those players who really dedicate themselves to raiding and being the best still having access to the best gear in the game.
A fair compromise. :)
Yes, the bleeding edge of raid progression is still challenging. Only twelve guilds in the world killed Yogg-Saron 0 Watcher before the 3.2 patch.
I just don't see why any of this shit matters to Blizz. They don't care if you find the game challenging or not challenging... they care if you pay the monthly fee so they can continue to gross $1.98 billion annually.
Quote from: Martinus on August 06, 2009, 02:58:52 AM
For those leveling an alt and now starting in Northrend, there is an important change to flying that I only discovered because people told me about it.
Essentially, until now you could only buy Cold Weather Flying (the skill that allows you to fly in Northrend) for yourself when you hit level 77.
Now, at level 77 you can buy a Bind-on-Account book (price is the same - 1000 gold) that teaches Cold Weather Flying (one use only) BUT that can be used by a character as low as level 68.
So this means that if you already have one level 77 character, you can buy it for your 68+ character and teach him to fly in Northrend.
Coupled with the fact that the slow flying mount was buffed from 80% to 150% speed, this makes leveling in Northrend much faster and easier.
My orc (hit level 74 this morning) is cutting through quests in Borean Tundra like a hot knife through butter. :cool:
Yeah, that's a pretty helpful change. The flight speed of the non-epic mount was so slow.
Some other minor interface changes include being able to see a comparison of gear vs gear you're wearing. Just hold the shift key down on an item in your bag. Hold the cursor over an item shows the vendor price. You can store gear setups/changes for a character, though I haven't tried it out yet. Some other small but helpful stuff like that.
The new equipment manager is delightful.
Quote from: KRonn on August 07, 2009, 09:57:51 AM
Some other minor interface changes include being able to see a comparison of gear vs gear you're wearing. Just hold the shift key down on an item in your bag. Hold the cursor over an item shows the vendor price. You can store gear setups/changes for a character, though I haven't tried it out yet. Some other small but helpful stuff like that.
Yes, that change is INCREDIBLY helpful. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 06:51:03 AM
I just don't see why any of this shit matters to Blizz. They don't care if you find the game challenging or not challenging... they care if you pay the monthly fee so they can continue to gross $1.98 billion annually.
I think it does matter to them. A lot of the people who create the raid dungeons are former mmo players themselves and so its kind of a labor of love. The balance has been between catering to players who want to feel like they're in an elite and able to do whatever is thrown at them and players who want to be able to see all the end game dungeons but don't have 5 hours a night for several nights in a row to work at it.
The guild I am in raids 5 days a week, but I didn't like it so I'm not raiding anymore. I just do it casually. :P
Quote from: Jaron on August 07, 2009, 05:51:46 PM
The guild I am in raids 5 days a week, but I didn't like it so I'm not raiding anymore. I just do it casually. :P
That you're in a guild capable of raiding just further demonstrates how far WoW has fallen and how easy it has become. :D
Quote from: Strix on August 08, 2009, 12:53:47 AM
Quote from: Jaron on August 07, 2009, 05:51:46 PM
The guild I am in raids 5 days a week, but I didn't like it so I'm not raiding anymore. I just do it casually. :P
That you're in a guild capable of raiding just further demonstrates how far WoW has fallen and how easy it has become. :D
:huh:
Don't be silly.
Quote from: Jaron on August 08, 2009, 01:00:10 AM
Quote from: Strix on August 08, 2009, 12:53:47 AM
Quote from: Jaron on August 07, 2009, 05:51:46 PM
The guild I am in raids 5 days a week, but I didn't like it so I'm not raiding anymore. I just do it casually. :P
That you're in a guild capable of raiding just further demonstrates how far WoW has fallen and how easy it has become. :D
:huh:
Don't be silly.
It can't be helped. Just finished watching last 7 episodes of Harper's Island in a row. So a tad punch drunk. ;)
For no good reason I started playing WoW over the weekend (hey - it was rainy).
It is a fun game even at lvl 80. I still have a couple zones of quests I never did, so I've been working on those. We'll see for how long though - I just can't bring myself to start begging guilds to take me on raids, or to grind daily quests for weeks at a time. But so far so good. :)
I was thinking of coming back in Sep, but as of right now i have no urge to play.
Might change if Champions online turns out to be a big stinker but for time being that is only MMO i'm thinking about.
Quote from: katmai on August 10, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
I was thinking of coming back in Sep, but as of right now i have no urge to play.
Might change if Champions online turns out to be a big stinker but for time being that is only MMO i'm thinking about.
Never heard of it. What's it about?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 10, 2009, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: katmai on August 10, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
I was thinking of coming back in Sep, but as of right now i have no urge to play.
Might change if Champions online turns out to be a big stinker but for time being that is only MMO i'm thinking about.
Never heard of it. What's it about?
It's another super hero MMO, based on the Pen and paper RPG, the MMO is made by cryptic (guys who did City of Heroes)
You are able to customize your powers and after hitting lvl 15 (?) unlock the ability to create and customize your arch nemesis.
following from wiki so take with grain of salt
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The game will also have non-combat skills, such as lockpicking and science knowledge. Also, there are travel powers. The confirmed travel powers are swinging on things such as webs or grappling hooks, flying, fire flying, jetboot flying and jumping, hover disks, super jump, super speed, teleportation, acrobatics (fast running, leaps and flips), ice sliding and tunneling.[4]
The game will feature a robust character creation like City of Heroes, including the ability to edit a hero's movement; for instance, a wolf-like hero may opt to leap on all fours rather than on two, a robot may select robotic, jerky movement rather than humanoid, and a mentalist may opt to float inches above the ground rather than walk.[3] The player may also edit the manifestation of their powers, including color and form; for instance, a heat ray may resemble flames or a force field may have a color specified in the editor.[5]
Players will be able to custom design their own arch-nemesis in the same fashion as their own hero (selecting a costume, their powers, their name and history), who will appear throughout their careers. If a player defeats his arch-nemesis permanently, they have the option to create a new one or finish their careers without another arch-nemesis.[3]
One significant difference is the elimination of any character class or archetype system — all characters can take any skill or power equally.[6] The game will also make it easier for a player to spend most of his hero's career as a solo hero if they desire.[3]
The game features a paper-doll inventory system, and items physically appear on the character when equipped; the player may select to remove the item from the visible GUI and still receive the effects from it.[3]
At the character creation screen, players will be able to create their own custom nemesis along with his or her minions. The nemesis will ambush the player throughout the game, and the first meeting is rumored to be at level 25. The level cap is at 40, with special endgame content and gameplay at the cap.[3]
Quote from: katmai on August 10, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
I was thinking of coming back in Sep, but as of right now i have no urge to play.
Might change if Champions online turns out to be a big stinker but for time being that is only MMO i'm thinking about.
I remember thinking it was mighty odd that the creators of City of Heroes would make another superhero MMO. :huh:
I don't know if "urge to play" was quite the right feeling, but more a "eh lets fire this up for lack of anything better to do", then suddenly a couple hours flew by.
NCsoft took CoH away from Cryptic.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 10, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
NCsoft took CoH away from Cryptic.
Um no, Cryptic sold CoH to NCsoft.
Same difference.
Quote from: Barrister on August 10, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
For no good reason I started playing WoW over the weekend (hey - it was rainy).
It is a fun game even at lvl 80. I still have a couple zones of quests I never did, so I've been working on those. We'll see for how long though - I just can't bring myself to start begging guilds to take me on raids, or to grind daily quests for weeks at a time. But so far so good. :)
Well, there is also the third option: heroic dungeons. It is much easier to find PUGs for these (and if you are a healer or a tank, finding a group for a 10-man raid is also a piece of cake), and with the recent changes in 3.2, bosses in heroic dungeons drop emblems which effectively allows you to purchase tier 7 and tier 8 gear from vendors (tier 8 is a Naxx level gear) and, at a much slower rate, Ulduar-level gear. Plus you can always find people willing to go to VoA raids.
I still need to run: Nexus. :blush:
My current main just hit 75.
Quote from: Caliga on August 11, 2009, 07:09:38 AM
I still need to run: Nexus. :blush:
My current main just hit 75.
n00b
My DK = nerfed
Also, I haven't logged on in a long while but when last I logged out I was lelvel 64 or 65...now I am 60...
WTF?
GMs decided you needed to retake a few levels to gain adequate experience. This will occur if you at some point shout rez plx at a healer or various other stupidities like asking a warlock for water.
Tier 8 is not Naxx level, its Ulduar 10 man gear.
Naxx is tier 7 and 7.5, Ulduar is 8 and 8.5, and this new trial of the champion(I think) is tier 9.
But since it has 10 man, 10 man heroic, 25 man and 25 man heroic I guess there must be 4 different levels of tier? :P
Tier 9
Tier 9.25
Tier 9.5
Tier 9.99
or something
I looked it up...this is awful.
Tier 9 is called Triumphant..
9.5? "Totally Triumphant" :P
http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=-189
Guess who's back in November!
http://www.wow.com/2009/08/12/onyxia-returns-in-patch-3-2-2/#continued
Very unusual move. :P
Quote from: Jaron on August 13, 2009, 04:40:47 AM
Very unusual move. :P
It is.
I was expecting Kael'thas. -_-
I hope the next expansion is in the South Seas. Tropics > tundra, and plus that means they will probably add goblins as a playable race. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on August 13, 2009, 10:05:23 AM
I hope the next expansion is in the South Seas. Tropics > tundra, and plus that means they will probably add goblins as a playable race. :cool:
But I like wandering around glaciers. :(
Borean Tundra is probably my favourite looking zone in the entire game.
There's a giant Maelstrom in the middle of Azeroth.
Goblins & Wolgen are in as playable. Ally or Horde, I cannot say, (Both fit really).
You heard it here first, people! (except : Martinus & Barrister).
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 13, 2009, 10:10:40 AM
You heard it here first, people!
But I didn't hear it here first.
Quote from: Jaron on August 13, 2009, 04:40:47 AM
Very unusual move. :P
Are you being sarcastic? They did the same with Naxx. :P
Quote from: Barrister on August 13, 2009, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 13, 2009, 10:10:40 AM
You heard it here first, people!
But I didn't hear it here first.
Neither did I. I heard it about 2 weeks ago on The Instance.
In other news, I now have three Naxx/ToC-worthy characters: a holy paladin healer, a frost DK tank and an affliction warlock dpser. :D
There, edited.
:rolleyes: :lol:
ZOMG! Onyxia!
I am totally playing again - still need that sinew, and now I can get it!
Are they removing the soloable Ony?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 13, 2009, 10:38:35 AM
Are they removing the soloable Ony?
Yes. 40 man version will be removed, similar to Naxx.
RiP Onyxia gold farming.
Quote from: Caliga on August 13, 2009, 10:05:23 AM
I hope the next expansion is in the South Seas. Tropics > tundra, and plus that means they will probably add goblins as a playable race. :cool:
Yeah, I like the look and feel of Strangethorn Vale's jungle terrain. A tropic like area could be good.
I still want a Taunka skin. :(
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on August 13, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
I still want a Taunka skin. :(
I'll get you one next time I play my gnome DK. :)
:lol:
I understand these are just rumors, but if there are even slightly true I'd be disgusted with WoW.
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World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.
Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.
This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.
Leveling from 80-85 should be a much bigger deal, the idea is to make sure that gaining a level really means something and doesn't make you feel like you just have 4 more levels to go.
New Classes
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.
Human Hunter
Orc Mage
Night Elf Mage
Dwarf Mage
Blood Elf Warrior
Dwarf Shaman
Undead Hunter
Tauren Paladin
Tauren Priest
Gnome Priest
Troll Druid
New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.
Goblins
Deathwing once again sought the services of the goblins, as slaves. Unable to refuse such an offer, the goblins were enslaved by him. A large group have resisted however. With their previous homes devastated by the cataclysm, they escaping to an island off the coast of The Barrens. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.
Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen curse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds even when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.
Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.
Worgens will have two forms, a Worgen form and a Human form. Players will be able to customise the look of both forms.
New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.
Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,
The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded.
Durotar is wrecked and apparently Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
Gnomeregan will be part of the expansion as well and gnomes might be able to reclaim their capital. (The last part is still unconfirmed)
Wailing Caverns will be become a lush tropical area as a result of the druid's magic.
The Blackrock Spire will erupt and a new version of Blackrock Mountains will be available, apparently Ragnaros will be back too.
In the aftermath of the cataclysm, and the new conflicts on the horizon relief efforts can be found in many zones and new open PvP areas similar to Lake Wintergrasp.
Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.
Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.
Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,
Hyjal (present)
Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
Uldum
It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclyms with the revelation of the goblins' plight, but several new islands have also been risen from the seas by the events of Cataclysm, some on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales, with the addition of several underwater zones.
Characters and Events
Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?
Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?
The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?
The Guardian of Tirisfal
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.
The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
What's wrong with any of that?
MURDER CAIRNE????
I WILL QUIT THE GAME IF THEY TOUCH MY COW. :angry:
Gilneas :yeah:
Quote from: Barrister on August 18, 2009, 05:05:52 PM
What's wrong with any of that?
Thrall cavorting with allies? :o
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 18, 2009, 05:12:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 18, 2009, 05:05:52 PM
What's wrong with any of that?
Thrall cavorting with allies? :o
There's nothing new about that.
One disappointment was that I had hoped for a new healing hero class. :(
I like the idea of flooding 1000 Needles.
I do like the idea of returning to Azeroth though. :) I miss the old times we had there. FAMILY.
Hmmm, maybe I'll level up a dwarf mage. :cool:
I also saw Dwarf Shaman.
Now that's cool.
Dwarf Mages were in Beta, it's nice to see them comeback.
Are they planning on putting this expansion out this year?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 18, 2009, 07:02:59 PM
Are they planning on putting this expansion out this year?
They haven't even announced this - this is all based on a "leak".
But given Blizz's track record on expansions, I wouldn't expect it before Christmas 2010.
Probably not this year. Yeah, like BB says, Xmas 2010.
I fully expect a Diablo III date from Blizzcon.
I actually think these changes sound awesome.
They won't release this monstrosity. But I don't want it to come out xmas 2010 because I feel at 30 I'll be too old for games.
Quote from: Jaron on August 18, 2009, 07:09:44 PM
They won't release this monstrosity. But I don't want it to come out xmas 2010 because I feel at 30 I'll be too old for games.
I predict you'll be playing games in your 60s.
Quote from: Jaron on August 18, 2009, 07:09:44 PM
They won't release this monstrosity. But I don't want it to come out xmas 2010 because I feel at 30 I'll be too old for games.
It's okay, you can be/do like Cdm.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 18, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: Jaron on August 18, 2009, 07:09:44 PM
They won't release this monstrosity. But I don't want it to come out xmas 2010 because I feel at 30 I'll be too old for games.
It's okay, you can be/do like Cdm.
Buy games only to put them in your closet?
That's right.
So Jaron has formed a guild with Demetrios, a couple buddies of his, and...
me. :blush:
Anyone wants my lvl 80 female mage, her Guild charter and Guild bank? Make me an offer. You can check the Armory for the profile ( http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Nagrand&n=Kemala ) - it's Kemala of Nagrand. That's an aussie server though.
G.
Quote from: Barrister on August 19, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
So Jaron has formed a guild with Demetrios, a couple buddies of his, and...
me. :blush:
Given up on raiding huh?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 19, 2009, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 19, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
So Jaron has formed a guild with Demetrios, a couple buddies of his, and...
me. :blush:
Given up on raiding huh?
Yeah. I'm back in a strictly PUG or solo capacity. I realized I can play 2-3 hours every night and it still isn't enough to go raiding.
What server was that again?
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 19, 2009, 12:07:26 PM
What server was that again?
You asking Grallon, or me?
You should have joined Princesca and I on Ravencrest. <_<
Quote from: Caliga on August 19, 2009, 12:43:25 PM
You should have joined Princesca and I on Ravencrest. <_<
I've been on Lightninghoof for longer than you've been on Ravencrest though. :huh:
:unsure: Er... so?
Quote from: Caliga on August 19, 2009, 12:51:44 PM
:unsure: Er... so?
So when I have a lvl 80 toon, horde side, why would I want to re-roll alliance and level all over again...
Quote from: Barrister on August 19, 2009, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 19, 2009, 12:51:44 PM
:unsure: Er... so?
So when I have a lvl 80 toon, horde side, why would I want to re-roll alliance and level all over again...
Because it's fun? :)
Quote from: Caliga on August 19, 2009, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 19, 2009, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 19, 2009, 12:51:44 PM
:unsure: Er... so?
So when I have a lvl 80 toon, horde side, why would I want to re-roll alliance and level all over again...
Because it's fun? :)
Oh noooooo, it isn't.
Log in, type /who my usual name. Friend me.
Sure it is... I've done it countless times. I have five non DK characters that are level 60+.
I made a Tauren hunter named Buffalobill
So J, any thought of trying to expend membership to 12-14 or so and organizing guild 10-man runs?
Only problem is that at that point you need to start setting up websites, recruitment, vent servers... :bleeding:
Ask Habs, I bet he is itching to get back into WoW.
I bet you are too, Berkut! Some druid chick I grouped with asks me about you n Habbu sometimes. Svenya? You know her?
Yeah, I know her, although I am rather surprised she would be asking about me still - that was a very long time ago, even before the raiding days.
I guess you made an impression. :P
It's all true!
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/
Cataclysm is a go.
Confirmed so far :
Worgen for Alliance
Goblin for Horde
Both new starting zone are better then the DK starting zone.
Release in 2010
Cap to 85
Starting Zone playable at Blizzcon this week-end.
Deathwing's back (He's the Cataclysm).
Goblin mount is a Spikey Racecar
Are they really re-working the old world to allow flying?
7 New Zones : Hyjal, Lost Isles (Goblin starter), Ul'Dum, Twilight Highlands(Grim Batol) , Sunken City of Vashj'ir, Gilneas(Worgen starter), Deepholme.
Everyzone is updated with new art & items.
Guild Levels, 20 of them. Guild Talent trees.
Guild Perks include : mass ressurect after whipe.
@BB, don't know yet. I assume not. YES, Flight Everywhere in Azeroth.
Tauren Priests
Gnome Priests
Dwarf Shaman
Worgen everyclass but Paladins & Priests
New Secondary Profession : Archeology
Alliance has lost Southshore.
They have said they will be redoing Azeroth to allow flying.
Also, they will be removing the old quests and doing a new 1-60 grind in the new zones. As far as things go, to me it seems that although its an xpac this is as good as being "WoW 2" as it gets without actually saying it.
I'm very tempted to start over as a level 1 when this comes out so I can explore all the new content.
In the trailer, they had some fascinating images. Places like Desolace being lush and full of life now, and the poor Barrens being ripped in two by a lava flow. It looks like the horde is going to deforest Ashenvale some more. <_<
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
Are they really re-working the old world to allow flying?
Yes they are completely revamping the old world, with new quests and shit. It's pretty much vanilla getting a full facelift. I so love this. :D
It's shaman and paladin Worgen can't be. Learn to read charts GF. :P I'm digging the new race/class combos. I wonder how they'll work in Tauren priests and Paladins. Earth Mother powered instead of Light powered? Would be cool.
Gilneas looks pretty sweet. Is Tim Burton getting royalties for the style that they pirated from Sleepy Hollow?
I am so not interested. At all. Not even a little bit.
Quote from: Berkut on August 21, 2009, 03:53:08 PM
I am so not interested. At all. Not even a little bit.
Your sarcasm is showing! :lol:
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on August 21, 2009, 03:38:12 PM
It's shaman and paladin Worgen can't be. Learn to read charts GF. :P I'm digging the new race/class combos. I wonder how they'll work in Tauren priests and Paladins. Earth Mother powered instead of Light powered? Would be cool.
Gilneas looks pretty sweet. Is Tim Burton getting royalties for the style that they pirated from Sleepy Hollow?
Actually that's not Sleepy Hollow, but more like Ravenloft.
As for the tauren, I read somewhere that they are returning to the worship of the sun after centuries of just worshipping the moon. ;)
@Judas, I was just copy pasting the live blog.
Even with the windmills? Pure Sleepy Hollow.
Well, if they've been right with everything else, I guess that means Cairne's days are numbered. :cry:
Quote from: Berkut on August 21, 2009, 03:53:08 PM
I am so not interested. At all. Not even a little bit.
You sure are following it closely for someone who isn't interested...
However I've been down this road twice before. Get real interested in the expansion, follow it for months, race down to get it the day it comes out, only to realize after 3-4 months its just more of the same.
& more importantly, we got news on a new D3 Class, the monk :yeah:
I think there is a large core of the game that is the same. But at the same time, having an entire world to re explore is a new and exciting thing for me.
This is as close as you can get to getting back the first time thrill since everything you are used to will be changed... forever.
Except I think levels 60-78/80 are going to be extremely boring. Stock up on that BoA gear guys. :P
They're giving into demand - heroic Deadmines! :lol:
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
They're giving into demand - heroic Deadmines! :lol:
I've been saying heroic versions of all old instances would be fun.
Quote from: katmai on August 21, 2009, 08:47:57 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
They're giving into demand - heroic Deadmines! :lol:
I've been saying heroic versions of all old instances would be fun.
About time someone listened to you!
This is ridiculous. It's like every new feature is designed to lure me back to the game. Kudos Blizzard...
Quote from: Jaron on August 21, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: katmai on August 21, 2009, 08:47:57 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
They're giving into demand - heroic Deadmines! :lol:
I've been saying heroic versions of all old instances would be fun.
About time someone listened to you!
indeed!
Quote from: Barrister on August 21, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
They're giving into demand - heroic Deadmines! :lol:
:w00t:
You landlubbers are tougher than I thought. I'll have to improvise! :shifty:
Race/faction changes are supposedly coming in 3.2.2. My dwarf hunter can finally fulfill his destiny as a troll.
Quote from: Liep on August 26, 2009, 11:02:04 PM
Race/faction changes are supposedly coming in 3.2.2. My dwarf hunter can finally fulfill his destiny as a troll.
I don't think I like this idea of race/faction changes.
No one likes it yet everyone has been asking for it since it became apprent no one was playing Horde(atleast then).
Quote from: KRonn on August 27, 2009, 08:27:14 AM
I don't think I like this idea of race/faction changes.
Race changes I have no objection to, but faction changes could be a potential server killer.
Quote from: Liep on August 27, 2009, 09:12:37 AM
Quote from: KRonn on August 27, 2009, 08:27:14 AM
I don't think I like this idea of race/faction changes.
Race changes I have no objection to, but faction changes could be a potential server killer.
Agreed on that. But I'd have to think that most players chose their faction and character because that's what they liked and wanted, so perhaps there won't be large faction cross overs.
I think the lore changes coming to Horde/Alliance might make some people no longer want to play as that faction and thus the option to change. I doubt people are going to leave in mass numbers.
When finally all accounts are migrated to Battle.net accounts, we will have this :
QuoteWhat will change in World of Warcraft after the forced migration?
The core gameplay experience will remain unchanged as a result of the migration. However, you'll be able to take part in all of the new Battle.net features, such as cross-realm, cross-faction, and cross-game chat.
By the way Jaron, how are you enjoying guild leadership so far?
I've already received whispers from a couple of people whining about Jaron. And the guild only has 6-7 members? :lol:
To be fair to Grandmaster J he hadn't done anything wrong in either case. But me made a few comments that didn't exactly help the situation.
Quote from: Barrister on August 27, 2009, 05:16:10 PM
By the way Jaron, how are you enjoying guild leadership so far?
I've already received whispers from a couple of people whining about Jaron. And the guild only has 6-7 members? :lol:
To be fair to Grandmaster J he hadn't done anything wrong in either case. But me made a few comments that didn't exactly help the situation.
Names!
I need names. :shifty:
I don't really care for it too much. From the new people constantly whining to me to help them to my alleged "officers" always whining on officer chat about some thing or another, I am quite annoyed with the whole situation.
I had a very clear vision for what I wanted the guild to be, and none of the people who founded the guild with me and wanted to help in officer ranks puts any effort into it. Demetrios just wants me to schedule heroics around his late night playing time, and Quaz And Arroh are constantly bickering (they are both 17 and boyfriend/girlfriend :x). She doesn't want him running a single heroic or getting any achievements without her, and he wants to do whatever he wants to do. Ah, youth. :wub:
At this rate, we'll never be the guild I hoped we'd be. I'm torn between giving it another shot, or just letting it be a second version of our languish alt parking lot guild and going to join one of the other guilds so I can do the stuff I want to do. <_<
The guild has only been going for about a week, and you're already thinking about pulling the plug? :lol:
Well, do whatever you want to do. I'm happy enough to be a member of your guild if it keeps going, since *I* know what to expect in a Jaron-run guild. :)
Jaron can never stop being jaron so he always says stupid shit.
I've done me best to help you guys out when I can, get you into heroics and get "the gear" but it doesn't help that the one reliable guild tank I have is an extremely moody 17 year old girl more interested in collecting pets than emblems. :P
Quote from: Barrister on August 27, 2009, 05:31:04 PM
The guild has only been going for about a week, and you're already thinking about pulling the plug? :lol:
Well, do whatever you want to do. I'm happy enough to be a member of your guild if it keeps going, since *I* know what to expect in a Jaron-run guild. :)
Oh really? And what can you expect in a *Jaron - run* guild? As little as possible?
Quote from: Jaron on August 27, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 27, 2009, 05:31:04 PM
The guild has only been going for about a week, and you're already thinking about pulling the plug? :lol:
Well, do whatever you want to do. I'm happy enough to be a member of your guild if it keeps going, since *I* know what to expect in a Jaron-run guild. :)
Oh really? And what can you expect in a *Jaron - run* guild? As little as possible?
I suppose, in that I don't "expect" anything. I don't expect to be given gear, or run whatever I want, or that kind of thing.
But I was more thinking of what GF said - that you will always be you, and that you can't help but poke the bear sometimes. :lol:
Haven't I gotten you the gear, BB? :(
Why did Tadora leave, J?
Quote from: Jaron on August 27, 2009, 06:26:36 PM
Haven't I gotten you the gear, BB? :(
Yes you have. :hug:
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 27, 2009, 06:27:05 PM
Why did Tadora leave, J?
Probably because I wouldn't help his lazy ass level. I wasn't going to go to Outland and kill quest mobs for him because he wanted to be lazy and get carried to 80.
:lol:
:lol:
So funny Jaron's following Grallon's course and expecting different results.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 27, 2009, 09:07:50 PM
:lol:
So funny Jaron's following Grallon's course and expecting different results.
Well no, he is actually recruiting lvl 80s at least, and a few people he actually knows (me and Demetrios).
ya know the more I hear about the changes being made the less interest I have in coming back.
Quote from: katmai on August 28, 2009, 02:58:48 AM
ya know the more I hear about the changes being made the less interest I have in coming back.
Which changes molest you the most, old friend?
The cross faction one first off
Continue.
I fail to see why anyone would be bothered by the faction switch whatsoever. :huh:
If you are not into some heavy roleplaying it doesn't affect your gameplay at all. I am confused why anyone would have any problem with this.
We don't no alliance kiddies that never had to suffer leveling thru the constant ganking & Barrens Chat?
Just a guess, not my opinion.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 28, 2009, 06:00:30 AM
We don't no alliance kiddies that never had to suffer leveling thru the constant ganking & Barrens Chat?
Just a guess, not my opinion.
That's retarded. Leveling is a joke these days, and if you don't want ganking, just level a character on a PvE server and transfer them to PvP.
Any of these "In my day..." and "Kids these days. I had to wade through snow to get to school..." arguments are pretty idiotic.
We are not talking here about giving a fresh player a level 80 character, but allowing people who already are familiar with the game to experience more content without having to grind through the same stuff again if they don't want to.
The benefits of cross faction transfers (desire to play with friends who rolled the opposite faction, desire to experience new content, desire to change due to server population imbalance) are quite clear and clearly outweigh whining of misantrophic cretins.
WoW players aren't exactly known for understanding and non-retardness. Also, they're whiners.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 28, 2009, 06:08:23 AM
humans aren't exactly known for understanding and non-retardness. Also, they're whiners.
Quote from: Martinus on August 28, 2009, 06:05:28 AM
The benefits of cross faction transfers (desire to play with friends who rolled the opposite faction, desire to experience new content, desire to change due to server population imbalance) are quite clear and clearly outweigh whining of misantrophic cretins.
It's not at all clear that that would be a benefit, the ability to switch factions could exacerbate server imbalances.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 28, 2009, 07:56:51 AM
It's not at all clear that that would be a benefit, the ability to switch factions could exacerbate server imbalances.
Afaik they don't allow server transfers to overpopulated servers, this make me believe that they will not allow faction changes to an oversized faction. Hopefully.
I doubt it would matter anyways. They will likely cost 25 dollars, and I don't see hordes of people only transferring from one faction to another.
I am sure some will switch horde to alliance and alliance to horde, but not in big enough numbers to tip server stats.
Cross Faction change are GO in NA
It's 30$.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 03, 2009, 11:07:24 AM
Cross Faction change are GO in NA
It's 30$.
:D They arent even trying to hide it anymore. WoW is dead to me truly now.
What are they not trying to hide?
Did anyone expect the faction transfer would be free?
Quote from: Barrister on September 03, 2009, 11:49:53 AM
What are they not trying to hide?
That a company tries to make more money where money are easily made. Heck, I might even throw some blizzard's way when it comes to europe. :p
Quote from: Barrister on September 03, 2009, 11:49:53 AM
What are they not trying to hide?
Did anyone expect the faction transfer would be free?
I expected you'd have to pay for it. And I expect paying is one way of maybe making sure that transfers are made by those who really want it, rather than people doing it on a whim because it's free and easy.
Still playing on Blizz?
Quote from: KRonn on September 03, 2009, 11:57:03 AMI expected you'd have to pay for it. And I expect paying is one way of maybe making sure that transfers are made by those who really want it, rather than people doing it on a whim because it's free and easy.
:yes:
:(
I deleted all my characters. :o
Quote from: Jaron on September 03, 2009, 03:43:17 PM
I deleted all my characters. :o
That was a silly thing to do.
I hope you are happy BB, this is your fault for being so mean to me.
:mellow:
Quote from: Jaron on September 03, 2009, 03:43:17 PM
I deleted all my characters. :o
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 03, 2009, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 03, 2009, 03:43:17 PM
I deleted all my characters. :o
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I don't get it. :P
Neither do I. :huh:
Quote from: Jaron on September 03, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
I don't get it. :P
Sure ya don't.
(Beeb- pics of various Nelsons in place of the smilie)
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 03, 2009, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 03, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
I don't get it. :P
Sure ya don't.
(Beeb- pics of various Nelsons in place of the smilie)
Oh.
I only saw one picture - Willie Nelson. So I couldn't firue out what that had to do with anything. :lol:
:nelson: is removed?
Oh.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 03, 2009, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 03, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
I don't get it. :P
Sure ya don't.
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Quote from: Jaron on September 03, 2009, 03:43:17 PM
I deleted all my characters. :o
You didn't delete them. You merely joined a new guild. <_<
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightninghoof&n=Adenspear
Level 80 shaman now? Somebody plays too much.
All epics, huh? Somebody needs to get a job. :)
Epics aren't that hard to come by. It all comes down to the iLevel of the epics.
Killjoy. -_-
Sure, leave me High and Dry Jaron.
Not an once of Loyalty in you. Mexican't.
Quote from: Caliga on September 03, 2009, 08:43:29 PM
All epics, huh? Somebody needs to get a job. :)
fuck you
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 03, 2009, 09:21:20 PM
Sure, leave me High and Dry Jaron.
Not an once of Loyalty in you. Mexican't.
:lol:
can't believe you thought there would be from him.
I can't believe he is making a big deal out of me pulling ONE of my 3-4 characters in the guild out. :lol:
I still have Angevinus and my druid in there.
I hate people who hop between guilds constantly, pull out characters, then come back, then switch etc. I wouldn't want them in any guild I'm in. They are parasites.
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 03:24:30 AM
I hate people who hop between guilds constantly, pull out characters, then come back, then switch etc. I wouldn't want them in any guild I'm in. They are parasites.
I agree. There's this annoying little kid in our guild who does that. If I ran the guild his next quit cycle would be his last one. Also he has an extremely high, faggy voice. :(
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 03:24:30 AM
I hate people who hop between guilds constantly, pull out characters, then come back, then switch etc. I wouldn't want them in any guild I'm in. They are parasites.
Fuck you too, like you have any room to talk about constantly changing your mind.
"Oh, i'm with Michal. I'm with Dominik. I'm with some fag from my guild. I'm back with Wiktor! :w00t: "
punkass bitch.
:lol:
Quote from: Jaron on September 04, 2009, 03:12:51 AM
I can't believe he is making a big deal out of me pulling ONE of my 3-4 characters in the guild out. :lol:
I still have Angevinus and my druid in there.
Actually you only left one character, Ioustin, in the guild (and left him as the guild master :lol:).
But there's no hard feelings, J. IN fact in talking with GF and Demetrios in-game last night we came tot he conclusion that we were slightly disappointed you hadn't cleared out the guild vault too. :(
Quote from: katmai on September 04, 2009, 02:57:02 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 03, 2009, 09:21:20 PM
Sure, leave me High and Dry Jaron.
Not an once of Loyalty in you. Mexican't.
:lol:
can't believe you thought there would be from him.
It's his own freaking guild.
Quote from: Barrister on August 27, 2009, 05:31:04 PM
Well, do whatever you want to do. I'm happy enough to be a member of your guild if it keeps going, since *I* know what to expect in a Jaron-run guild. :)
:smarty:
I'll probably /gquit tonight since I can keep chatting with everyone easily enough in the languish channel.
Well, I quit WoW. Ended my subscription and all.
But less than a month and I'm back. :weep: I am weak to the power of WoW.
I made a new character. Horde this time on Maelstrom. I'm a BE Hunter. :D
Quote from: Korea on September 13, 2009, 10:31:20 PM
Well, I quit WoW. Ended my subscription and all.
But less than a month and I'm back. :weep: I am weak to the power of WoW.
I made a new character. Horde this time on Maelstrom. I'm a BE Hunter. :D
Much better than Lightninghoof, where all your FRIENDS are.
Quote from: Jaron on September 13, 2009, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: Korea on September 13, 2009, 10:31:20 PM
Well, I quit WoW. Ended my subscription and all.
But less than a month and I'm back. :weep: I am weak to the power of WoW.
I made a new character. Horde this time on Maelstrom. I'm a BE Hunter. :D
Much better than Lightninghoof, where all your FRIENDS are.
:huh: who is still playing besides you?
I should be enough.
But we still have the BB, GF, Stonewall, and Lndhnd. And Demetrios, if you count him.
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 03:46:30 AM
I should be enough.
But we still have the BB, GF, Stonewall, and Lndhnd. And Demetrios, if you count him.
I don't count bb and GF they are flaky.
Look who is talking.
These guys are never satisfied.
For awhile, we had all guild heroic groups til our tank and healer flaked.
You guys get free repairs from the guild fund I maintain.
You get free epic gems which I transmute and cut for you.
And now because I pull ONE of my characters out to put in a raiding guild that runs only 3 times a week for 2-3 hours at most I'm a disloyal Mexican't.
Of course nevermind the fact that I'm on my druid or baby mage more than I'm on my shaman ( only log him on for raids!!!)
NEVERMIND I offer to help you guys every day.
NEVERMIND that I dreamed of bigger things and dropped you guys like the dead weight you are.
Somehow, you herd the sheep to greener pastures, and then they all turn on you because the water ain't sweet as sugar. Ingrates. gquit if you want to, but I dare you to find a guild that will treat you better than I have treated you spoiled children.
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 03:50:19 AM
Look who is talking.
'cuse me?
I never flaked out and quit wow as much as those two have. I've left every summer since coming back in fall of '06.
This year like last i have no interest in playing it, but i never say never.
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 03:53:55 AM
Somehow, you herd the sheep to greener pastures, and then they all turn on you because the water ain't sweet as sugar. Ingrates. gquit if you want to, but I dare you to find a guild that will treat you better than I have treated you spoiled children.
:lol:
Quote from: katmai on September 14, 2009, 03:58:49 AM
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 03:50:19 AM
Look who is talking.
'cuse me?
I never flaked out and quit wow as much as those two have. I've left every summer since coming back in fall of '06.
This year like last i have no interest in playing it, but i never say never.
Do you miss playing on Dalaran? :wub:
Sometimes when I pass through Ashenvale I think back to the days of katmai, jaron and tobok and when I hearthed mid quest to go train. :wub:
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 04:46:14 AM
Do you miss playing on Dalaran? :wub:
Not really
:lol:
Quote from: katmai on September 14, 2009, 04:54:36 AM
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 04:46:14 AM
Do you miss playing on Dalaran? :wub:
Not really
:lol:
Do you miss Lightninghoof? :unsure: OH YEAH, before I forget. Like two weeks ago Pancake came back to LH trying to steal, I mean recruit people for his new guild on Uldum. I told him I'd give you the message. :P
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 04:55:49 AM
Do you miss Lightninghoof? :unsure: OH YEAH, before I forget. Like two weeks ago Pancake came back to LH trying to steal, I mean recruit people for his new guild on Uldum. I told him I'd give you the message. :P
Yeah he contacted me through e-mail, i was tempted to head over there.
Hi.
Why don't I count? :(
Jman, your druid you're never on your druid. You either play your Traitorous Shaman or the new mage.
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 03:53:55 AM
These guys are never satisfied.
For awhile, we had all guild heroic groups til our tank and healer flaked.
You guys get free repairs from the guild fund I maintain.
You get free epic gems which I transmute and cut for you.
And now because I pull ONE of my characters out to put in a raiding guild that runs only 3 times a week for 2-3 hours at most I'm a disloyal Mexican't.
Of course nevermind the fact that I'm on my druid or baby mage more than I'm on my shaman ( only log him on for raids!!!)
NEVERMIND I offer to help you guys every day.
NEVERMIND that I dreamed of bigger things and dropped you guys like the dead weight you are.
Somehow, you herd the sheep to greener pastures, and then they all turn on you because the water ain't sweet as sugar. Ingrates. gquit if you want to, but I dare you to find a guild that will treat you better than I have treated you spoiled children.
Where did this come from? :huh:
I haven't turned on you or complained about you. As I told you I expected nothing from your guild, so I couldn't possible be disappointed. :)
It is your expectation of nothingness that wounds me.
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 12:04:42 PM
It is your expectation of nothingness that wounds me.
I expected nothing. Your guild gave me more than nothing, so it has been a positive experience. :)
Quote from: Barrister on September 14, 2009, 12:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 12:04:42 PM
It is your expectation of nothingness that wounds me.
I expected nothing. Your guild gave me more than nothing, so it has been a positive experience. :)
How can you say it gave you nothing? :(
He said MORE then nothing.
L2R.
:)
Quote from: Jaron on September 14, 2009, 03:53:55 AM
NEVERMIND that I dreamed of bigger things and dropped you guys like the dead weight you are.
:lol:
I'd rather play on hoof but my best friend already made an account on Maelstrom. :(
I'll give you....EPIC GEMS!
Unless you play at 1 am EST and on, you'll be alone.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 14, 2009, 12:25:41 PM
He said MORE then nothing.
L2R.
He said more THAN nothing. If he said more THEN nothing, that would just be more nothing. :P
I'm on the road, bored, but at least I have a laptop and wireless internet.
Unfortunately while I can connect to everything else, connecting to WoW just times out. :(
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 15, 2009, 06:42:45 AM
Unless you play at 1 am EST and on, you'll be alone.
That is usually when I play actually.
Quote from: Korea on September 15, 2009, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 15, 2009, 06:42:45 AM
Unless you play at 1 am EST and on, you'll be alone.
That is usually when I play actually.
Come, my pet. Your best friend and ex-lover Jaron summons thee and your little friend.
Quote from: Jaron on September 15, 2009, 11:48:42 PM
Quote from: Korea on September 15, 2009, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 15, 2009, 06:42:45 AM
Unless you play at 1 am EST and on, you'll be alone.
That is usually when I play actually.
Come, my pet. Your best friend and ex-lover Jaron summons thee and your little friend.
:rolleyes: Maybe the next time I start over.
I am half a bar away from 80 with my main. :)
Jaron is now entirely a full quitter.
Did he ebay his characters?
I got tired of listening to everyone whine, so I dusted the gbank and gave leadership to Demetrios
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2009, 03:15:49 PM
Jaron is now entirely a full quitter.
This was in question?
Quote from: Jaron on September 18, 2009, 03:34:47 PM
I got tired of listening to everyone whine, so I dusted the gbank and gave leadership to Demetrios
yeah thank you for that. :rolleyes:
I should have cameback on Smolderthorn. :rolleyes:
Atleast BB is there.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 18, 2009, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 18, 2009, 03:34:47 PM
I got tired of listening to everyone whine, so I dusted the gbank and gave leadership to Demetrios
yeah thank you for that. :rolleyes:
I should have cameback on Smolderthorn. :rolleyes:
Atleast BB is there.
:hug:
It was fun to group up with you last night, even if only for a few minutes. be sure to let me know if you need any other help.
And I should be able to group up with you a bit when you're around 60, as I do have a warrior at that level - at least until you pass me. :lol:
We'll group again at 80, then!
Also, ISP called me they says End of October now :yeah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpkQSB_h5lY&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpkQSB_h5lY&feature=channel)
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General
The Brood Mother Returns
After years of lurking in her lair battling the many brave adventurers who travelled from afar to challenge her, Onyxia returns stronger than before to commemorate World of Warcraft's five-year anniversary.
Onyxia has been scaled to offer new challenges to level 80 players in 10- and 25-player modes.
Adjusted for modern raiding, but with the fundamental experience of fighting the Brood Mother still in effect, including the horrors of her Deep Breaths!
Onyxia will now drop level 80 item versions of some classic loot items from the level 60 encounter.
Brood of Onyxia, a very rare 310%-speed mount modeled after Onyxia herself will be
available for the luckiest of challengers.
Armor Penetration Rating: The amount of armor penetration gained per point of this rating has been reduced by 12%.
PvP
Battlegrounds
Players level 11 and higher will now always see a daily Battleground quest, as the quest giver will only offer daily quests for a Battleground in which a player is eligible to participate according to level bracket (i.e. players levels 11-20 will always be offered a Warsong Gulch daily quest, while players levels 11-50 will be offered either an Arathi Basin or a Warsong Gulch daily quest, etc.).
Death Knights
Frost Presence: The damage reduction granted by this ability has been increased from 5% to 8%.
Pets
Gnaw: This death knight ghoul ability now has a 1-minute cooldown.
Talents
Blood
Heart Strike: Secondary targets of Heart Strike now take half as much damage.
Subversion: Now also increases the critical strike chance of Scourge Strike by 3/6/9%.
Vampiric Blood: Cooldown reduced to 1 minute and duration reduced to 10 seconds.
Frost
Threat of Thassarian now also causes Rune Strike to use both weapons when dual-wielding.
Unbreakable Armor: Cooldown reduced to 1 minute and changed back to granting 25% additional armor while active instead of flat damage reduction based on armor. The amount of strength granted has been reduced to 10%.
Unholy
Bone Shield: This ability now has 3 charges instead of 4. Cooldown reduced to 1 minute.
Dirge: This talent no longer grants additional runic power from using Obliterate.
Druids
Talents
Balance
Moonkin Form: This form now also reduces the damage the druid takes while stunned by 15%.
Typhoon: The daze duration has been increased from 3 seconds to 6 seconds.
Feral Combat
Infected Wounds: The debuff generated by this talent no longer stacks and instead causes the full effect with a single application.
Predatory Strikes: This talent now also causes the druid's finishing moves to provide a 7/13/20% chance per combo point to make the next Nature spell with a cast time below 10 seconds instant cast.
Hunters
Talents
Beast Mastery
The Beast Within: The duration of this talent has been reduced to 10 seconds. In addition, hunters with this talent will do 10% additional damage at all times.
Bestial Wrath: The duration of this talent has been reduced to 10 seconds.
Mages
Arcane Blast: The buff from using this ability now stacks up to 4 times instead of 3, and each application increases mana cost by 175% instead of 200%. In addition, the duration of the buff has been reduced to 6 seconds.
Arcane Missiles: Casting this spell while both Missile Barrage and Clearcasting are active will cause only Missile Barrage to be consumed.
Talents
Arcane
Missile Barrage: The effect from triggering this talent now removes the mana cost of
Arcane Missiles. In addition, the chance for Arcane Blast to trigger this talent is now 8/16/24/32/40%. All other listed spells continue to have a 4/8/12/16/20% chance to trigger it. This talent no longer has a chance to be triggered when spells miss.
Fire
Combustion: This talent now also increases the critical strike damage bonus of Fire spells by 50% while it is active. In addition, Living Bomb periodic ticks will no longer interact with the count or the charges on the talent.
Paladins
Righteous Fury: The bonus threat from Holy spells caused by this talent has been reduced from 90% to 80%.
Seal of Corruption and Seal of Vengeance: These seals will now only use the debuff stacks generated by the attacking paladin to determine the damage done by the seal and by the judgement.
Talents
Protection
Ardent Defender: This talent now reduces damage taken below 35% health by 7/13/20% instead of 10/20/30%.
Blessing of Sanctuary: This blessing now grants 10% strength in addition to its current effects. Also, the strength and stamina bonuses from this blessing will no longer be lost when Blessing of Kings is removed.
Judgements of the Just: The reduction in cooldown to Hammer of Justice provided by this talent has been reduced to 5/10 seconds instead of 10/20 seconds.
Touched by the Light: This talent now provides 20/40/60% of the paladin's strength as spell power instead of 10/20/30% of the paladin's stamina.
Retribution
Seal of Command: This ability now chains to strike up to 2 additional targets when it is triggered by an attack that can only strike a single target.
Priests
Talents
Shadow
Improved Spirit Tap: Mind Flay periodic critical strikes now have a 50% chance to trigger this talent.
Twisted Faith now grants spell power equal to 4/8/12/16/20% of spirit, up from 2/4/6/8/10%.
Rogues
Envenom's scaling has been increased from 7% to 9% of attack power per combo point.
Fan of Knives: The damage done by this ability has been reduced by 30%.
Talents
Assassination
Master Poisoner: No longer increases the Deadly Poison application rate following a successful Envenom and instead now provides a 33/66/100% chance of preventing Envenom from consuming Deadly Poison.
Combat
Throwing Specialization: This talent no longer causes Fan of Knives to interrupt spellcasting.
Subtlety
Honor Among Thieves: A 1-second cooldown is now enforced on how often a rogue can gain combo points from his party via this talent.
Shamans
Cleansing Totem: No longer pulses instantly when dropped.
Flame Shock: The duration of all ranks has been increased by 6 seconds.
Lava Burst: This ability no longer ever consumes a Flame Shock debuff off of the target.
Talents
Elemental Combat
Shamanism: Your Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning spells gain an additional 3/6/9/12/15% and your Lava Burst gains an additional 4/8/12/16/20% of your bonus damage effects.
Enhancement
Earthen Power: No longer causes Earthbind to pulse a persistent snare immunity aura. It does still remove snares from allies as an instant pulse, but there is no lingering immunity. Earthen Power now also brings Earth Shock's melee attack speed reduction up to -15%/-20% (with 1 or 2 points in it, respectively).
Warriors
Talents
Arms
Sword Specialization: Now has a 2/4/6/8/10% chance to proc an extra attack, up from 1/2/3/4/5%.
Protection
Critical Block: This talent now grants a 20/40/60% chance to block double the normal amount instead of 10/20/30%.
Dungeons & Raids
Shadowfang Keep
Wailing Guardsman: Screams of the Past will no longer have multiple applications on a target. Recast time has been increased.
Ulduar
Increased the cooldown on Immortal Guardians' Drain Life ability in the Yogg-Saron encounter.
Achievements
The Achievement "Iron, Dwarf Medium Rare (25 player)" now requires 25 kills, down from 50.
The Frostwolf Howler and Stormpike Battle Charger Achievements will now be awarded when a player learns the respective mount spells.
Professions
The blacksmiths of Orgrimmar grew tired of running to the rear of the city to craft items and have installed a new anvil & forge at the General Store in the Valley of Strength.
Engineering
The Mind Amplification Dish no longer changes the appearance of your helmet.
Inscription
Added a recipe for Runescroll of Fortitude. This item grants a stamina buff equal to the highest rank of Power Word: Fortitude (untalented) to all players in the raid. The effect of this runescroll is exclusive with other stamina scrolls and Power Word: Fortitude.
Leatherworking
Added a recipe for Drums of Forgotten Kings. These drums increase all stats by 8% for all players in a raid. The effect of these drums is exclusive with Blessing of Kings.
Added a recipe for Drums of the Wild. These drums grant a buff equal to the highest rank of Mark of the Wild (untalented) to all players in a raid. The effect of these drums is exclusive with Mark of the Wild.
Items
The Black Heart: This item's animation has been changed and no longer resembles Hand of Protection.
Death Knight Tier-9 Tanking 4-Piece Set Bonus: Now decreases the cooldown on Vampiric Blood, Unbreakable Armor, and Bone Shield by 10 seconds instead of 20.
Druid Tier-8 Healer 4-Piece Set Bonus: The amount of healing this set bonus grants on the initial cast of Rejuvenation has been reduced by 50%. In addition, this set bonus no longer has strange interactions with Harold's Rejuvenating Broach.
Glyphs
Glyph of Bone Shield: This glyph now grants 1 additional charge instead of 2.
Glyph of Flame Shock: Redesigned. This glyph now makes Flame Shock periodic damage able to be critical strikes.
Glyph of Mind Flay: This glyph no longer reduces the magnitude of the movement reduction on the Mind Flay victim.
Glyph of Scourge Strike: Redesigned. This glyph now causes Scourge Strike to extend the duration of Frost Fever and Blood Plague by 3 seconds each time Scourge Strike is used on a target, up to a maximum of 9 seconds.
Glyph of Typhoon: This glyph now increases the range on Typhoon by 10 yards in addition to its current effects.
Glyph of Unbreakable Armor: Now increases the armor gained from Unbreakable Armor by 20%.
Glyph of Vampiric Blood: The glyph now increases the duration of Vampiric Blood by 5 seconds instead of 10.
Libram of Obstruction: The buff to block value from this relic is now exclusive with the buff to block value from Libram of the Sacred Shield; it is impossible to have both buffs at once.
Libram of the Sacred Shield: The block value buff from this relic has been increased to match its item level.
Relics: All buffs provided by relics (idols, librams, totems and sigils) now share an exclusive category such that gaining a buff from one of these items will remove all other buffs gained from items in this category.
Totem of Quaking Earth: Attack power value increased to 400.
User Interface
Battleground Queuing
Players may now only queue for no more than two Battlegrounds at a time.
The dialog box for entering a Battleground match has been changed to reflect the following options: "Enter Battle," "Leave Queue," and "Minimize."
The time a player has to enter a battle when selected has been reduced to 40 seconds when not already in a Battleground and 20 seconds when in a Battleground.
Players already in a Battleground can now choose "Enter Battle" for a new Battleground under any circumstance (i.e. while dead, in combat, falling, etc.).
A new Battleground will not launch until the maximum number of players on each side are in the queue (i.e. 40 players per side for Alterac Valley).
The size of the Focus Frame can now be adjusted via the Interface Options menu.
Mail System Auto-Complete Feature
The inline auto-complete feature for the mail system has been added back into the game. The mail system will now have both the pre- and post-3.2.0 auto-complete features available.
Added a label to notify players that the Tab key will allow players to navigate through the character names listed via the auto-complete feature.
For additional notes on Lua and XML changes please visit the UI & Macros forum.
Bug Fixes
Death Knight
Rune of Razorice: The frost vulnerability granted by this enchantment will now increase the damage done by Frost Fever as intended.
Druid
Balance of Power: Misleading tooltip reworded. The tooltip previously reported an incorrect value for the increased chance to hit with spells. The actual benefit of the talent is unchanged.
Hunter
Master's Call: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Infected Wounds, Frostfire Bolt, and Slow.
Trap Mastery's (Survival) tooltip now states the correct amount of snakes summoned.
Mage
Arcane Missiles: Ranks 12 and 13 will now properly cause players to enter combat.
Paladin
Hand of Freedom: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Infected Wounds and Frostfire Bolt.
Priest
Divine Aegis: Ranks 1 and 2 will now work with Holy Nova.
Glyph of Power Word: Shield now correctly uses the Priest's spell critical chance instead of the target's.
Rogue
Vanish: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Frostfire Bolt.
Honor Among Thieves: This talent will now work properly again if two rogues with different ranks of the talent are in the same party.
Shaman
Grounding Totem will now properly protect against the Death Grip spell.
Lava Burst can no longer deal critical damage to targets who are immune to critical strikes (due to, e.g. Roar of Sacrifice, Blessed Resilience).
Lightning Shield: This spell will no longer set off some trinkets when it is cast.
Stoneclaw Totem's pulses will no longer break stealth on nearby hostile units.
Thunderstorm and Shamanistic Rage can no longer be used while Frozen, Cycloned, Sapped, or Incapacitated.
Warlock
Demonic Circle: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Frostfire
Bolt.
Fel Armor: This spell was unable to set off trinkets and other effects. That has been corrected.
When using Shadowbolt or Incinerate while having Backlash and Backdraft active, only Backlash will now be properly consumed.
Coliseum Trinkets: Some spells that should have triggered these trinkets will now trigger them (such as Holy Nova and Fel Armor).
Death Knight Tier-9 DPS 4-Piece Set Bonus: Now grants the correct chance for disease damage ticks to be critical strikes.
Heirloom items which grant 10% experience bonuses will now apply these bonuses to Battleground experience gains.
Hunter Tier-9 2-Piece Set Bonus: Critical damage from Serpent Sting will now work properly with the Mortal Shots and Expose Weakness talents.
Lightweave Embroidery: This tailoring item enhancement will no longer trigger from the periodic healing granted by the warlock spell Fel Armor.
Mote of Flame: Corrected a typo in the tooltip.
Paladin Tier-9 DPS 2-Piece Set Bonus: Now grants the correct chance for Righteous Vengeance ticks to be critical strikes.
Shard of Flame: Corrected a typo in the tooltip.
Val'anyr, Hammer of The Ancient Kings: Healing from Prayer of Mending now triggers the shield from this item. In addition, a bug was corrected which would cause the shield points to be overwritten rather than stack up as intended.
Is this out today? :huh:
Yeah
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg16.imageshack.us%2Fimg16%2F298%2F95792387.jpg&hash=9ca12e2a12cdd731d5acf11c66d9779008afdb4a)
:weep:
Think of it as a cost of doing business J.
:weep:
WHAT HAPPEN
Jaron bought a level 70 hunter named Divhur and Blizz finally got wise to it.
Is it really you Jman?
:D What did you get banned for? :D
I don't think he got banned, just found that pic on the internets.
I bought gold.
ANYHOO, the new Onyxia fight is AMAZING!!!
Quote from: Jaron on September 24, 2009, 01:40:25 AM
I bought gold.
ANYHOO, the new Onyxia fight is AMAZING!!!
LOL you are so full of shit. It's the same as the old one. :D
It's little different. I heard she gets more adds in Phase 2 now.
What is everyones name on hoff? I'm about to makes another new character.
The major players remaining:
Kaelina - BB
Merovech - I
??
Thugnificant - Stonewall
Sparz - Lndhnd
Strix - Strix
Who the hell is Merovech, mister Innocentius, Ioustin, Adenspear, Dijon, Jarenko.
Also, don't I count?
Grey Fox = Arthois
Just type /join languish and talk to whoever's there.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 24, 2009, 09:37:04 PM
Just type /join languish and talk to whoever's there.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that.
Kaeka
Add me!
I'll keep an eye out for ya Korea.
What race/class are you?
I just made a Tauren Druid. And I have a warlock Orc (Uggokor probably already added)that I've been playing around with but I really think I don't enjoy being a warlock.
Druids :puke:
I want the damn things eliminated from the game.
Now that we've both hit 80 Princesca is, predictably, bored with WoW. I suspect once Brewfest is over, she's done. At that point perhaps I will game with you people. In the past when that's happened, I've gone back to playing with my brother, but his gaming group is now down to him and one other dude, so I don't see the point anymore.
:hug:
Quote from: Caliga on September 25, 2009, 12:06:27 PM
Now that we've both hit 80 Princesca is, predictably, bored with WoW. I suspect once Brewfest is over, she's done. At that point perhaps I will game with you people. In the past when that's happened, I've gone back to playing with my brother, but his gaming group is now down to him and one other dude, so I don't see the point anymore.
I like 80; a whole new kind of game opens up then. The game changes and becomes something a bit different, but there's a lot to do, maybe even more than while leveling. That's if it suits you though, and if you enjoy the different game play at 80.
Quote from: KRonn on September 25, 2009, 02:12:41 PMI like 80; a whole new kind of game opens up then. The game changes and becomes something a bit different, but there's a lot to do, maybe even more than while leveling. That's if it suits you though, and if you enjoy the different game play at 80.
Oh, I know, believe me.
Quote from: Caliga on September 25, 2009, 12:06:27 PM
Now that we've both hit 80 Princesca is, predictably, bored with WoW. I suspect once Brewfest is over, she's done. At that point perhaps I will game with you people. In the past when that's happened, I've gone back to playing with my brother, but his gaming group is now down to him and one other dude, so I don't see the point anymore.
Just to warn ya the 'Hoof gang is smallish. I regularily group up with Demetrios, occasionally with Jaron. GF's toon is levelling quickly, and is in the high 50s. Stoney and Lndhand are around pretty regularily, but I don't get to group with them too much due to the time difference.
Berk came back for a bit, but has left again.
So there are more people than just your brother and a friend, but not a whole horde.
I played LOTRO with Lndhand and I think maybe Stonewall too.... good times.
Quote from: Barrister on September 25, 2009, 02:31:26 PM
GF's toon is levelling quickly, and is in the high 50s.
Trying to get to 60 before I have to go on Hiatus until November.
Cal on the 'hoof?
eww, no way i'm coming back then.
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2009, 04:21:07 PM
Cal on the 'hoof?
eww, no way i'm coming back then.
You've said that about 6 different times now. :contract:
You know you want to come back - the weather is getting worse, there's nothing better to kill a cold northern winter than roam around Northrend.
Quote from: Barrister on September 25, 2009, 05:36:04 PM
You've said that about 6 different times now. :contract:
You know you want to come back - the weather is getting worse, there's nothing better to kill a cold northern winter than roam around Northrend.
having too much fun with xbox360
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2009, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 25, 2009, 05:36:04 PM
You've said that about 6 different times now. :contract:
You know you want to come back - the weather is getting worse, there's nothing better to kill a cold northern winter than roam around Northrend.
having too much fun with xbox360
I still want one of those... :(
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 25, 2009, 11:37:28 AM
Druids :puke:
I want the damn things eliminated from the game.
Why?
Because one stole his raid tanking job 5 years ago or something.
Quote from: Barrister on September 25, 2009, 02:31:26 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 25, 2009, 12:06:27 PM
Now that we've both hit 80 Princesca is, predictably, bored with WoW. I suspect once Brewfest is over, she's done. At that point perhaps I will game with you people. In the past when that's happened, I've gone back to playing with my brother, but his gaming group is now down to him and one other dude, so I don't see the point anymore.
Just to warn ya the 'Hoof gang is smallish. I regularily group up with Demetrios, occasionally with Jaron. GF's toon is levelling quickly, and is in the high 50s. Stoney and Lndhand are around pretty regularily, but I don't get to group with them too much due to the time difference.
Berk came back for a bit, but has left again.
So there are more people than just your brother and a friend, but not a whole horde.
I'm there too!
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 25, 2009, 09:54:18 PM
Because one stole his raid tanking job 5 years ago or something.
:nelson:
Korea:
Druids are teh bomb!
I got my Tauren druid to 70 in a jiffy :) Easiest class to solo with IMO.
Quote from: Zoupa on September 25, 2009, 10:49:59 PM
I got my Tauren druid to 70 in a jiffy :) Easiest class to solo with IMO.
It doesn't seem that way to me. Although I only just reached level 10. I think hunter is extremely easy to solo as.
Prot specced warriors all the way.
Druids and paladins are the class you wish to level if you don't really know what role you want to play (tank, healer, dps) and/or do not want to level more than one character.
Quote from: Korea on September 29, 2009, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 25, 2009, 10:49:59 PM
I got my Tauren druid to 70 in a jiffy :) Easiest class to solo with IMO.
It doesn't seem that way to me. Although I only just reached level 10. I think hunter is extremely easy to solo as.
Leveling a druid sucks until you get cat form. Well compared to other classes, that is. The levels still go pretty fast at that stage.
I've gotten like seven epic drops from that Corin Direbrew dude. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on September 30, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
I've gotten like seven epic drops from that Corin Direbrew dude. :cool:
:cool:
I want the damn kodo mount tho. :cry:
Quote from: Caliga on September 30, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
I've gotten like seven epic drops from that Corin Direbrew dude. :cool:
LOL I want a fucking mount. I puke with all the epic shit he drops. :p
Question: Is there a Languishite mole among Blizzard devs?
Evidence:
A troll named Ja'ron in Brewfest.
An orc named Neeru Fireblade in Orgrimmar.
A bronze dragon named Brazen in CoT Durnholde.
:unsure:
I think there was a dwarf named Jaron in that level 50 winter zone.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 30, 2009, 05:11:12 PM
I think there was a dwarf named Jaron in that level 50 winter zone.
:yes:
:lol: They put 3.3 up on the test servers. They are releasing three new 5 mans in the next patch and one of the bosses in one of the wings will be.....
Bronjahm, the Godfather of Souls
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 30, 2009, 05:11:12 PM
I think there was a dwarf named Jaron in that level 50 winter zone.
There's also a guy named Caliga Giantwang in Valiance Keep. :cool:
Yeah, sure. :lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 01, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Yeah, sure. :lol:
How
dare you question Brewmaster Caliga! :mad:
You'll see my three toons running around fairly often in the evenings.
Thugnifacent - Orc Death Knight
Baddabing - Blood Elf Paladin
Tancy - Blood Elf Mage
If one of you people has a toon that is a healer, we can have some decent heroic groups, since Thug is a pretty decently geared tank.
Quote from: Stonewall on October 02, 2009, 01:11:03 PM
You'll see my three toons running around fairly often in the evenings.
Thugnifacent - Orc Death Knight
Baddabing - Blood Elf Paladin
Tancy - Blood Elf Mage
If one of you people has a toon that is a healer, we can have some decent heroic groups, since Thug is a pretty decently geared tank.
Did you post something? I cannot get my eyes off your avatar to tell. :lol:
I'm astonished - the WoW thread fell off the front page. :o
Katmai, Berk - I guess coming back didn't really "take"?
I am a little irked at how dependent end-game WoW is on daily quests at the moment, but at least it gives me something concrete to do if I only have 30 minutes to play. But still, once I max out my Oracle rep, and finish off Loremaster for Northrend (probably <100 quests left), I'm not quite sure what I should do next in WoW...
Get 100 mounts?
I'd like to play.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2009, 03:52:43 PM
Get 100 mounts?
I'd like to play.
I know you would. :hug:
But 100 mounts? It would mostly be an enormous money-sink, combined with endlessly running a few instances. I doubt it.
I am going for It's a Long, Strange, Trip. Which is going to mean doing a lot of PvP. :(
Get full Loremaster from Old World too?
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2009, 04:00:57 PM
Get full Loremaster from Old World too?
Might do it, but damn that would take awhile...
Yep, also gets you ton of rep for those faction achievement that you don't have yet too.
My dad is in town, and my cousin is completing a move up here from California to go to school, so haven't had time to check languish too much, not to mention even playing games.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2009, 04:04:26 PM
Yep, also gets you ton of rep for those faction achievement that you don't have yet too.
After doing all the Tournament dailies I'm exalted with all the main horde factions. :)
Quote from: katmai on October 13, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
My dad is in town, and my cousin is completing a move up here from California to go to school, so haven't had time to check languish too much, not to mention even playing games.
UNderstood. I wasn't trying to goad you into playing, just wondered if you and Berk had decided against it.
Didn't take it as such :P
just was explaning why I haven't been on in a week.
Quote from: Barrister on October 13, 2009, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2009, 04:04:26 PM
Yep, also gets you ton of rep for those faction achievement that you don't have yet too.
After doing all the Tournament dailies I'm exalted with all the main horde factions. :)
Play the warrior when I come back?
Sure, I'll dust him off.
Unil you pass me in levels like you surely will. :lol:
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2009, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 13, 2009, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 13, 2009, 04:04:26 PM
Yep, also gets you ton of rep for those faction achievement that you don't have yet too.
After doing all the Tournament dailies I'm exalted with all the main horde factions. :)
Play the warrior when I come back?
You have to come home soon. :(
Quote from: Barrister on October 13, 2009, 03:51:40 PM
I'm not quite sure what I should do next in WoW...
I guess its time for them to pump out another expansion.
I suppose you have to ask what do you want out of the game? By playing on a server with most people in EST or CST, you're missing out on a lot of the end-game content, like raiding. If raiding is what you want, move to a server that has more people in Pacific time. If you're not having fun, find something else to do. It's a game. Supposed to be fun. I tried a demo of Fallen Earth the other day at a neighbor's house. Seemed very very cool. I think Lndhnd is playing that right now. Only one server for the entire game, including Europe, so I imagine there are plenty of people on across the time zones.
Wow. I finally got my mount for my new character. It feels so good to have a strong black chocobo between my legs.
Poor Ide :(
Quote from: Korea on October 14, 2009, 02:23:04 AM
Wow. I finally got my mount for my new character. It feels so good to have a strong black chocobo between my legs.
Traitor! Give me my damn shirt back!!!
Quote from: Korea on October 14, 2009, 02:23:04 AM
Wow. I finally got my mount for my new character. It feels so good to have a strong black chocobo between my legs.
I have a mammoth between my legs. :perv:
In a day or two (at the most) I will wield: a chainsaw. :menace:
Quote from: Jaron on October 14, 2009, 02:44:59 AM
Quote from: Korea on October 14, 2009, 02:23:04 AM
Wow. I finally got my mount for my new character. It feels so good to have a strong black chocobo between my legs.
Traitor! Give me my damn shirt back!!!
How am I a traitor?!
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: Korea on October 14, 2009, 02:23:04 AM
Wow. I finally got my mount for my new character. It feels so good to have a strong black chocobo between my legs.
I have a mammoth between my legs. :perv:
:lol: I use to have one of those too. :(
Quote from: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 11:38:01 AM
In a day or two (at the most) I will wield: a chainsaw. :menace:
Wha???
Quote from: Korea on October 14, 2009, 11:42:03 AM
Wha???
http://thottbot.com/i45129 (http://thottbot.com/i45129)
You buy it with 25 Champion Seals.
Quote from: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 11:48:35 AM
You buy it with 25 Champion Seals.
There are so many pretty doo-dads you can buy with those Seals, butI'm getting so very tired of running those dailies... :unsure:
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 11:56:59 AM
There are so many pretty doo-dads you can buy with those Seals, butI'm getting so very tired of running those dailies... :unsure:
Yeah, I'll probably not bother after I get the magic chainsaw.
I already spent 150 on the Dragonhawk, but I want the magic broom, and the mana wyrm, and maybe the pony... :(
You guys are doing wonders to ensure I don't come back to WoW!
Really, the thing I miss most is 5-man arenas. That was fun.
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2009, 02:11:47 PM
You guys are doing wonders to ensure I don't come back to WoW!
Really, the thing I miss most is 5-man arenas. That was fun.
I never really got to try them. :(
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 11:48:35 AM
You buy it with 25 Champion Seals.
There are so many pretty doo-dads you can buy with those Seals, butI'm getting so very tired of running those dailies... :unsure:
So, the only way to get champion seals is by doing daily quest? And you don't start those until you're really high level?
I do believe that to be correct.
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2009, 02:11:47 PM
You guys are doing wonders to ensure I don't come back to WoW!
:yes:
What do you mean?
Quote from: Korea on October 14, 2009, 11:20:12 PM
So, the only way to get champion seals is by doing daily quest? And you don't start those until you're really high level?
And by doing Trial of the Champion in heroic mode.
Quote from: Liep on October 15, 2009, 04:44:11 AM
Quote from: Korea on October 14, 2009, 11:20:12 PM
So, the only way to get champion seals is by doing daily quest? And you don't start those until you're really high level?
And by doing Trial of the Champion in heroic mode.
Oh. So do you get like one seal for every daily or is it harder than that? Are there a lot of dailies to do?
Quote from: Korea on October 15, 2009, 09:55:48 AM
Oh. So do you get like one seal for every daily or is it harder than that? Are there a lot of dailies to do?
No, you can earn more than that (up to five IIRC), plus random additional seals as part of your reward for turning the quests in. I got one of those yesterday which enabled me to get the magic chainsaw a day earlier than I thought I would.
Quote from: Caliga on October 15, 2009, 10:59:39 AM
Quote from: Korea on October 15, 2009, 09:55:48 AM
Oh. So do you get like one seal for every daily or is it harder than that? Are there a lot of dailies to do?
No, you can earn more than that (up to five IIRC), plus random additional seals as part of your reward for turning the quests in. I got one of those yesterday which enabled me to get the magic chainsaw a day earlier than I thought I would.
If you hit exalted with all 5 faction cities, become a champion of all 5 cities, it opens up additional daily quests for seals. I can earn around 10 per day if I do them all.
Oh right, I forgot about those (the one where you rescue that Reckless guy from the Cult of the Damned compound, right?)
I think with dailies + H ToC you can earn 13 a day.
Hallow's End started, again. Surprisingly it's just as annoying this year.
Quote from: Liep on October 17, 2009, 07:15:08 PM
Hallow's End started, again. Surprisingly it's just as annoying this year.
I rather like this holiday. :huh:
Until now - I had previously done many of the accomplishments, and yesterday finished all but one. I need a sinister squashling to finish. But that's entirely dependent on the RNG.
So now I have to try and log on once an hour to trick or treat and try and get one in a loot bag, plus kill the Headless Horseman over and over, hope that it drops, then hope I win the roll.
I have been playing different single player games in the past 2 weeks & I've come to the realization that WoW is really superior to a lot of those games.
Even a replay thru D2 couldn't hold my attention. Borderlands' this week but it looks a little boring & ModernWarfare 2 is still 3 weeks away. Gawd, I need the internet.
Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2009, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: Liep on October 17, 2009, 07:15:08 PM
Hallow's End started, again. Surprisingly it's just as annoying this year.
I rather like this holiday. :huh:
Until now - I had previously done many of the accomplishments, and yesterday finished all but one. I need a sinister squashling to finish. But that's entirely dependent on the RNG.
So now I have to try and log on once an hour to trick or treat and try and get one in a loot bag, plus kill the Headless Horseman over and over, hope that it drops, then hope I win the roll.
18 HH kills. 1 squashling drop, not won by me. Similar number of loot bags, no squashling.
<_<
Quote from: Barrister on October 21, 2009, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2009, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: Liep on October 17, 2009, 07:15:08 PM
Hallow's End started, again. Surprisingly it's just as annoying this year.
I rather like this holiday. :huh:
Until now - I had previously done many of the accomplishments, and yesterday finished all but one. I need a sinister squashling to finish. But that's entirely dependent on the RNG.
So now I have to try and log on once an hour to trick or treat and try and get one in a loot bag, plus kill the Headless Horseman over and over, hope that it drops, then hope I win the roll.
18 HH kills. 1 squashling drop, not won by me. Similar number of loot bags, no squashling.
<_<
I got the squashling on one, or maybe two, characters. Have the broom on two characters. And I haven't really done HH all that often. But rotating 3 characters through certainly ups the odds.
Yeah but who cares about getting titles for their alts?
Jaron & his 8 lvl 80s do.
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:rolleyes: They just lost my business.
:nelson:
Dude it took them 4 years to finally catch you, wtf are you whining about.
No they didn't. -_-
How the HELL does what I did violate any policy?
just karma catching up with you ^_^
So hows Aion
You had a 3 hour suspension. :rolleyes:
I rock.
I won the Fishing comp - again. Now I have both rewards. :)
Quote from: Barrister on October 25, 2009, 03:06:34 PM
I rock.
I won the Fishing comp - again. Now I have both rewards. :)
:cool:
The trinket is kind of fun. It turns you into a fish, with +swimming speed, and water breathing.
Not much use to a druid with swim form, but great for anyone else (like a mage).
Quote from: Barrister on October 25, 2009, 07:58:41 PM
The trinket is kind of fun. It turns you into a fish, with +swimming speed, and water breathing.
Not much use to a druid with swim form, but great for anyone else (like a mage).
Barristerboy...
For
The
MOTHERFUCKING
WIN
Congrats BB, I always forget to try it on my warrior.
Quote from: Jaron on October 24, 2009, 06:53:27 AM
How the HELL does what I did violate any policy?
I received an account warning once that was even more of a joke. I was in shimmering flats and somebody said in general, "please help me, this priest keeps chasing me." I replied, "if you want him to stop chasing you, throw down an altar boy." Somebody who was obviously catholic got offended and told me in general they were reporting me. First, I never said catholic or any thing of the like. I still received a warning. WTF.
Quote from: Lndhand on October 28, 2009, 11:58:21 AM
First, I never said catholic or any thing of the like.
:lol:
Would a judge buy that argument?
Quote from: Lndhand on October 28, 2009, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Jaron on October 24, 2009, 06:53:27 AM
How the HELL does what I did violate any policy?
I received an account warning once that was even more of a joke. I was in shimmering flats and somebody said in general, "please help me, this priest keeps chasing me." I replied, "if you want him to stop chasing you, throw down an altar boy." Somebody who was obviously catholic got offended and told me in general they were reporting me. First, I never said catholic or any thing of the like. I still received a warning. WTF.
LOL American WoW is weird. People crack jokes like this in General on EU servers all the time.
When will Cataclysm (or whatever) come?
Quote from: Barrister on October 28, 2009, 11:24:46 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 28, 2009, 10:21:17 PM
When will Cataclysm (or whatever) come?
2012. D'uh.
In 2012 I estimate the level cap will be an exciting 90. AND we might see a new southern island in Azeroth!
I'm now thinking there won't be a WoW II, or if there is one it'll be years before it is released, because I figured that a total redesign of Azeroth/Kalimdor would have been the basis behind WoW II.
Hey, is it true that Cataclysm will be the debut of a DX10 graphics engine, as I've been hearing? :)
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 28, 2009, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: Lndhand on October 28, 2009, 11:58:21 AM
First, I never said catholic or any thing of the like.
:lol:
Would a judge buy that argument?
My whole take on it is that truth is always a defense to slander and libel. :P
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2009, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: Lndhand on October 28, 2009, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Jaron on October 24, 2009, 06:53:27 AM
How the HELL does what I did violate any policy?
I received an account warning once that was even more of a joke. I was in shimmering flats and somebody said in general, "please help me, this priest keeps chasing me." I replied, "if you want him to stop chasing you, throw down an altar boy." Somebody who was obviously catholic got offended and told me in general they were reporting me. First, I never said catholic or any thing of the like. I still received a warning. WTF.
LOL American WoW is weird. People crack jokes like this in General on EU servers all the time.
Americans in general are quite tight assed. I am for nude beaches and prostitution! :D
I am for tight asses at nude beaches!
I'm for not going to any nude beach where Katmai is.
Quote from: Caliga on October 29, 2009, 09:54:54 AM
I'm now thinking there won't be a WoW II, or if there is one it'll be years before it is released, because I figured that a total redesign of Azeroth/Kalimdor would have been the basis behind WoW II.
Hey, is it true that Cataclysm will be the debut of a DX10 graphics engine, as I've been hearing? :)
They have said they won't do a WoW II, that they'd prefer to constantly upgrade WoW.
Smooth, Jaron. /gkick everyone in the guild. Real funny.
Quote from: Barrister on October 30, 2009, 11:27:31 PM
Smooth, Jaron. /gkick everyone in the guild. Real funny.
That's what you get for joining a guild run by him. :rolleyes:
Quote from: katmai on October 30, 2009, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 30, 2009, 11:27:31 PM
Smooth, Jaron. /gkick everyone in the guild. Real funny.
That's what you get for joining a guild run by him. :rolleyes:
It is Dems now. :P
The new LFG system really is a job well done by Blizzard. It is now: useful. :o
Why you'd do it, traitor?
I just respecced my Fire build to be hybrid Fire/arcane so I could get Clearcasting and some other crit boosts. The last HoS Heroic run I did my DPS was only 1018. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 08:16:10 AM
I just respecced my Fire build to be hybrid Fire/arcane so I could get Clearcasting and some other crit boosts. The last HoS Heroic run I did my DPS was only 1018. :Embarrass:
Just spec arcane -- with the changes to arcane blast, the dps is nice even if you have meh gear (like my mage!). Fully spec out arcane missiles when you do, as missile barrage rocks.
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 08:16:10 AM
I just respecced my Fire build to be hybrid Fire/arcane so I could get Clearcasting and some other crit boosts. The last HoS Heroic run I did my DPS was only 1018. :Embarrass:
People run heroics so quickly these days my DPS is going down - the casting time on fireball means some mobs go down before I can even get it in. :pinch:
On an actual challenging encounter however I can rock the damage meter.
Quote from: Lndhand on November 02, 2009, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 08:16:10 AM
I just respecced my Fire build to be hybrid Fire/arcane so I could get Clearcasting and some other crit boosts. The last HoS Heroic run I did my DPS was only 1018. :Embarrass:
Just spec arcane -- with the changes to arcane blast, the dps is nice even if you have meh gear (like my mage!). Fully spec out arcane missiles when you do, as missile barrage rocks.
My mage is specced arcane/frost, heavy arcane. That does ok in raids/runs with my gear which is good, not great. I have a dual spec with the other one frost, which I like also for an all around spec, though lower dps in raids/runs I feel.
Quote from: Lndhand on November 02, 2009, 10:04:06 AM
Just spec arcane -- with the changes to arcane blast, the dps is nice even if you have meh gear (like my mage!). Fully spec out arcane missiles when you do, as missile barrage rocks.
I was specced fully arcane before but the attack rotation is so boring with an arcane build... :(
Quote from: KRonn on November 02, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
My mage is specced arcane/frost, heavy arcane. That does ok in raids/runs with my gear which is good, not great. I have a dual spec with the other one frost, which I like also for an all around spec, though lower dps in raids/runs I feel.
Are you still playing that same human mage you had on Dalaran btw?
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: KRonn on November 02, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
My mage is specced arcane/frost, heavy arcane. That does ok in raids/runs with my gear which is good, not great. I have a dual spec with the other one frost, which I like also for an all around spec, though lower dps in raids/runs I feel.
Are you still playing that same human mage you had on Dalaran btw?
Yes, I am. Also have a paladin and hunter at 80, and a few 70s. One 70s character on a pvp server.
Dang, that character must be uber powerful now. You've been playing it what, five years? :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 01:12:52 PM
Dang, that character must be uber powerful now. You've been playing it what, five years? :cool:
I guess five years, since just about the time I started playing, one of my first characters and mains. Trying to recall when that was...
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 01:12:52 PM
Dang, that character must be uber powerful now. You've been playing it what, five years? :cool:
Uhh, he's had a year tops at 80, same as everyone else.
I meant in terms of money/achievements/guild prestige and all that.
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
I meant in terms of money/achievements/guild prestige and all that.
You would think so, but I bet it isn't the case.
It is kronn, his guild probably hates him.
:huh:
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
I meant in terms of money/achievements/guild prestige and all that.
My mage does pretty well. I play her probably the most, she has the most achievements, but I don't push hard for those. Has a good amount of gold, good gear though not tops. She's done a lot in pvp - about 53k honorable kills, and also has the mount from taking down all horde main city bosses. But I tend to like playing several characters enough to get them decently geared. I play my paladin healer a lot, and he's also specced tank now too.
Quote from: Berkut on November 02, 2009, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
I meant in terms of money/achievements/guild prestige and all that.
You would think so, but I bet it isn't the case.
It is kronn, his guild probably hates him.
Lol! I'm so disliked! ;)
Quote from: KRonn on November 02, 2009, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 02, 2009, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
I meant in terms of money/achievements/guild prestige and all that.
You would think so, but I bet it isn't the case.
It is kronn, his guild probably hates him.
Lol! I'm so disliked! ;)
:P
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2009, 02:05:16 PM
I meant in terms of money/achievements/guild prestige and all that.
People started collecting achievements last year and there's been ridiculous inflation. As for "guild prestige" they come and go. Basically, every expansion so far has been a reset.
So we went and got the heroics achivements done to get that red proto drake. I kinda like the Oculus now... never thought I'd say that. :P
Quote from: Liep on November 04, 2009, 05:34:29 PM
So we went and got the heroics achivements done to get that red proto drake. I kinda like the Oculus now... never thought I'd say that. :P
grats!
yeah i quit game with just the Oculus in under 20 mins left to do for proto drake.
:bleeding:
Quote from: katmai on November 04, 2009, 05:37:24 PMgrats!
yeah i quit game with just the Oculus in under 20 mins left to do for proto drake.
We did it with 8 minutes to spare. :nerd: The flying animation on the drake is horrid though.
I got kicked out of the guild! :weep: WTF?
We started (but alas did not finish) Naxx 10 last night and my DPS is up to ~1750. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on November 06, 2009, 09:34:43 AM
We started (but alas did not finish) Naxx 10 last night and my DPS is up to ~1750. :cool:
Is that at level 80???
Div was doing 2k+ at level 70.
Be nice berkie.
(i won't mention my tank did more dps at 80, but ...)
:P
Well there's the problem that everything dies so fast, casters don't have time to cast anything.
Quote from: Berkut on November 06, 2009, 10:33:33 AM
Is that at level 80???
Div was doing 2k+ at level 70.
Nobody cares.
Quote from: katmai on November 06, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
Be nice berkie.
(i won't mention my tank did more dps at 80, but ...)
:P
Is that sustained DPS? Using Recount I frequently see my DPS spike as high as 7800 but as I have a fire/arcane spec I'm doing alot of burst damage and obviously I don't do sustained DPs that high.
Yes sustained, my spike was up to 5800 :p
I want to play my Warrior again.
:(
Seems wow aint doing so well over here anymore. They are giving it away for free now....
Quote from: Cecil on November 30, 2009, 02:46:39 PM
Seems wow aint doing so well over here anymore. They are giving it away for free now....
? Here = China?
WoW is doing just fine.
3.3 tomorrow? Next week?
Quote from: Fate on November 30, 2009, 04:03:34 PM
WoW is doing just fine.
3.3 tomorrow? Next week?
I'm rooting for tomorrow. My shaman needs exploding totems.
Quote from: Cecil on November 30, 2009, 02:46:39 PM
Seems wow aint doing so well over here anymore. They are giving it away for free now....
They're only lowering the price on vanilla + tbc right? It's pure profit anyway, so why not try and get some more people hooked before Cataclysm.
When is the Languish Crew returning to Lightninghoof? Everytime I look in the Languish channel it is only my name staring back. :cry:
:(
By the way, for whoever is interested, I have a decently geared prot pally and my bud has an amazingly geared restro druid so we are running H TOC daily if you want to join. The gear drops are excellent for a 5 man heroic.
YOu know I was having some fun playing WoW as essentially unguilded, but what I missed was the cameraderie. If the Languish crew was back I'd go back to playing WoW in a second, but as it is I was getting bored and lonely.
I'm thinking about coming back. Find that I'm still wasting all my time, just in less enjoyable ways. :rolleyes:
3.3 is out today. Making my return after a month long absence. :)
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 04, 2009, 08:33:48 PM
I'm thinking about coming back. Find that I'm still wasting all my time, just in less enjoyable ways. :rolleyes:
Nooo don't do it!
Sorry to hear that Teach.
I logged in this weekend and meh, no reason to stay past current month subscription.
3.3 is chaotic. :D
I've abandoned LH probably for good. With everyone gone, I went to an RP realm where I can spend my time with likeminded players.
Quote from: Jaron on December 08, 2009, 10:46:57 PM
3.3 is chaotic. :D
I've abandoned LH probably for good. With everyone gone, I went to an RP realm where I can spend my time with likeminded players.
Bunch of manic-depressive assholes.
Oy-vey
I'm mildly intrigued, but would still rather play Dragon Age.
Quote from: Barrister on December 09, 2009, 01:22:30 AM
I'm mildly intrigued, but would still rather play Dragon Age.
My basic feeling, with some many other games out there to play, and my WoW friends aren't playing anymore, not to mention you assholes. I just don't see a reason to go back for uptheenthtime.
I'd go back but alas still no internet.
Quote from: katmai on December 09, 2009, 01:51:53 AM
My basic feeling, with some many other games out there to play, and my WoW friends aren't playing anymore, not to mention you assholes. I just don't see a reason to go back for uptheenthtime.
Same.
Quote from: Jaron on December 08, 2009, 10:46:57 PM
3.3 is chaotic. :D
I've abandoned LH probably for good. With everyone gone, I went to an RP realm where I can spend my time with likeminded players.
But LH is a RP server. :huh:
WoW was fun but I dont see any point in playing anymore.
I hope that their player base starts droping off to make room for another innovative product.
Quote from: Lndhand on December 11, 2009, 11:42:20 AM
Quote from: Jaron on December 08, 2009, 10:46:57 PM
3.3 is chaotic. :D
I've abandoned LH probably for good. With everyone gone, I went to an RP realm where I can spend my time with likeminded players.
But LH is a RP server. :huh:
Some people in my guild I enjoyed playing with hopped elsewhere.
They've introduced some cool new features in 3.3, but I'm not sure its entirely worth coming back just yet.
The new LFG tool is really cool. It matches you to people from other servers to get you an instance group quick. If you use the random group tool, it also gives you 2 emblems of frost (the new token) the first time, 2 emblems of triumph the second time, and I believe an extra emblem of triumph for every heroic you finish with the tool. It also gives you 13g each time.
Using this tool replaced the daily heroic. There is no daily anymore, the first dungeon you randomly enter is your daily.
Ice crown citadel is pretty cool, but Blizzard is taking a really crappy gated approach so only the first four bosses are available right now and the rest won't open up for "several weeks" (with the LK fight possibly not being available til march or april)
There is also a weekly raid to kill one boss in some random raid dungeon, and that gives 5 frost and 5 triumph and 33g.
Most guilds make some attempts at ICC, and then go try out Trial of the Grand Crusader.
All in all, it is fun, but its not so ground breaking fun that someone who was burned out will be re energized.
All in all 3.3 has been a great patch imo. As a tank, I get 5 man heroic groups in 10 to 15 seconds. The bonus triumph badges for using the LFG system is icing on the cake. The 3 new ICC 5 drop some really nice loot based on the loot tables. The first 2 are nice runs, I have not run the third one yet.
Quote from: Lndhand on December 17, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
All in all 3.3 has been a great patch imo. As a tank, I get 5 man heroic groups in 10 to 15 seconds. The bonus triumph badges for using the LFG system is icing on the cake. The 3 new ICC 5 drop some really nice loot based on the loot tables. The first 2 are nice runs, I have not run the third one yet.
They're all nice. And the 3rd one will be a treat for you as a tank, success will depend on whether your group understands LoS or not. :p
Quote from: Liep on December 17, 2009, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Lndhand on December 17, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
All in all 3.3 has been a great patch imo. As a tank, I get 5 man heroic groups in 10 to 15 seconds. The bonus triumph badges for using the LFG system is icing on the cake. The 3 new ICC 5 drop some really nice loot based on the loot tables. The first 2 are nice runs, I have not run the third one yet.
They're all nice. And the 3rd one will be a treat for you as a tank, success will depend on whether your group understands LoS or not. :p
I ran it last night for the first time -- I see what you mean. :D My dps and healer was excellent. We made it through with only 2 deaths and I managed to land the 232 tanking necklace out of the chest. Woot!
glad to hear things are exciting with new patch.
We miss you man!!!
Quote from: Lndhand on December 18, 2009, 01:09:46 PM
We miss you man!!!
last few times i've logged in, no one has been on :P
granted this was before the 3.3 patch
I am on quite a bit now that the patch has come out. I am actually raiding (primarily 10 man) on a regular basis for the first time -- I am enjoying it immensely. Normally, I avoid raiding like the plague.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpqE-nDEkkc&feature=rec-fresh+div-r-7-HM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpqE-nDEkkc&feature=rec-fresh+div-r-7-HM)
I guess some of Jaron's pals must have really liked that song.
THEY STOLE IT. :(
Well, I've reupped for the next week, as Blizz gave me a free one. Not sure if I'll go past that yet.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 28, 2009, 02:41:57 AM
Well, I've reupped for the next week, as Blizz gave me a free one. Not sure if I'll go past that yet.
WTH, I want a free week!
Be a cool kid! Come join Nesingwary's newest 80 DK! :showoff:
Ok gotta say it, if you feel even remotely like leveling a new char, the new LFG tool simply makes it a great experience. I am a level 20 human mage and already been twice to SFK and once to RFC (yeah, you heard it right), each time getting a group within like 30-60 seconds from joining the tool.
There is this new feature where if you sign up for a "random" dungeon (as opposed to a specific one), it sends you to a random dungeon in your level range, and if you kill the last boss, you get extra xp, some gold and a blue item in a special bag (it essentially counts as a "daily" - but at low level you can redo it). Between this and the ability to get xp through BGs, it is no longer necessary to do the old quest grind, where you had to travel across the world to do some quests say in the night elf area before returning to Westfall because you couldn't do these quests before.
Blizzard once again manages to improve the game in a great way.
If you do choose to do the quests, they now have quest info built into the map.
I've been less than enthused about the LFG tool so far.
So Eddie, does that just mean QuestHelper is built into vanilla now?
Could be. They show a list of all the quests you have in a zone and mark their locations by number on the map. They also have quest info built into the mobs. If you hover over one you need, it will display the quest name.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2009, 08:25:32 AM
Could be. They show a list of all the quests you have in a zone and mark their locations by number on the map. They also have quest info built into the mobs. If you hover over one you need, it will display the quest name.
Those quest changes have been nice, very handy/helpful. The LFG tool is good, easy to get groups fast, or to fill out a guild group when needed, etc.
The new quest UI pretty much has all the functions of Quest Helper, except the HUD-style stuff appearing on your game screen (like an arrow directing you to a quest location) and the quest locations displaying on the mini map in the upper right corner of the screen. But all quests locations etc. are showed on the game map and you can scale this map as well to appear on your game screen without occupying the entire screen.
They have dual specs in game, right? I forgot how to use it.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2009, 01:50:56 PM
They have dual specs in game, right? I forgot how to use it.
If you spent the 1000 gold to open up 2nd spec then you can switch back n forth iirc.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2009, 01:50:56 PM
They have dual specs in game, right? I forgot how to use it.
When you open your talents screen, you'll see tabs on the side of the screen where you can select your other talent spec. You can switch back and forth as you want, though maybe not in an instance run, not sure on that.
I am putting together a 10-man ToC run (normal mode). I have two tanks lined up (me and Stonie), one healer, and one dps. If anyone here is interested in running, shoot me a tell in game or an email address so I can include you in the planning. Strix - I see you on quite a bit - love to have you heal or dps.
Well my account is still active, but i haven't run any instances in 8 months so not sure how much help I could be as dps or heals :p
Kat -- your inherent lewtness would be a boon to the raid. :hug:
Quote from: KRonn on December 29, 2009, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 29, 2009, 01:50:56 PM
They have dual specs in game, right? I forgot how to use it.
When you open your talents screen, you'll see tabs on the side of the screen where you can select your other talent spec. You can switch back and forth as you want, though maybe not in an instance run, not sure on that.
You can switch as long as you're not in combat.
Got a ten day trial, been playing a little bit.
A couple things I miss about WoW:
1. PvP. Had a great time killing a rogue over and over again while he tried to interfere with me compelting a quest. Have to admire his persistence - I think I killed him 8 times. Ran AB and WG a few times, did ok.
2. Grouping. The new LFG tool is awesome - you can actually run lower level dungeons! What a nice way to break up the leveling grind.
Div Mk2 is up to level 37!
I don't know if I will keep playing once my ten days runs out though.
Well, I'm back. Haven't seen a whole lot of activity on Lightninghoof. Where y'all at?
Looks like they have the LFG function working. Now maybe the can turn out a new game now that they have figured out all the interface that should have been in this one.
Wow. Over a week since someone posted in this thread.
Since I foolishly still have my WoW subscription going (I'm going to cancel it tonight), is anyone still playing on the Hoof that could really use some gold? I've quit and come back to WoW so many times that I'm certainly not going to liquidate my characters, but I think I have over 1000g if someone could really use it (of course if you're just going to sit on it I might as well keep it in case I come back).
I ama ctually playing again, and having a pretty good time leveling my Hunter. I see people in the Languish channel from time to time, so it isn't completely dead.
I have no idea if I will stay with it though.
I am kicking around the idea of selling my Eve accounts.
Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2010, 01:40:09 PM
Wow. Over a week since someone posted in this thread.
There were 5 people in Languish channel last night. Though I think me and Berkut were the only ones who post regularly.
:lol:
Are you laughing because you were the name I didn't recognize? :yeahright:
I just assumed that was Rudeness.
Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2010, 01:40:09 PM
Wow. Over a week since someone posted in this thread.
Since I foolishly still have my WoW subscription going (I'm going to cancel it tonight), is anyone still playing on the Hoof that could really use some gold? I've quit and come back to WoW so many times that I'm certainly not going to liquidate my characters, but I think I have over 1000g if someone could really use it (of course if you're just going to sit on it I might as well keep it in case I come back).
I'll use some if you send it to my hoff char. I had to take a wow break but I starting to get in the mood to play again in a few days.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 13, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
Are you laughing because you were the name I didn't recognize? :yeahright:
I just assumed that was Rudeness.
No, I'm laughing because Berkut never talks.
Sure I do.
Quote from: Korea on January 13, 2010, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2010, 01:40:09 PM
Wow. Over a week since someone posted in this thread.
Since I foolishly still have my WoW subscription going (I'm going to cancel it tonight), is anyone still playing on the Hoof that could really use some gold? I've quit and come back to WoW so many times that I'm certainly not going to liquidate my characters, but I think I have over 1000g if someone could really use it (of course if you're just going to sit on it I might as well keep it in case I come back).
I'll use some if you send it to my hoff char. I had to take a wow break but I starting to get in the mood to play again in a few days.
What level are you / what do you need?
I am a level 19 druid. I just want to be able to buy some cool armor and weapons.
Quote from: Korea on January 13, 2010, 05:59:05 PM
I am a level 19 druid. I just want to be able to buy some cool armor and weapons.
Oh hell, I can give you enough for that. Couple hundred g ought to do it.
What's your toon's name again? :blush:
Sorry K. Just realized I'd need to dl a bunch of updates just to log in to give you money.
I'm not going to bother doing that.
You should dl those updates and then play on your toons. :contract:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 14, 2010, 05:38:44 PM
You should dl those updates and then play on your toons. :contract:
But I don't want to. I'd rather play STO. :)
Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2010, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Korea on January 13, 2010, 05:59:05 PM
I am a level 19 druid. I just want to be able to buy some cool armor and weapons.
Oh hell, I can give you enough for that. Couple hundred g ought to do it.
What's your toon's name again? :blush:
Kaeka
Thanks :hug:
Quote from: Barrister on January 14, 2010, 05:09:03 PM
Sorry K. Just realized I'd need to dl a bunch of updates just to log in to give you money.
I'm not going to bother doing that.
Oh okay. No prob. :(
Offer to send him nude pics in exchange for the money. DUH! -_-
While I'm sure Korea looks very nice in the nude, it would just be... awkward to get nude photos from her. If she were to offer, I would have to decline. -_-
Quote from: Barrister on January 14, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
While I'm sure Korea looks very nice in the nude, it would just be... awkward to get nude photos from her. If she were to offer, I would have to decline. -_-
Oh, what a gentleman! ^_^
Quote from: Barrister on January 14, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
While I'm sure Korea looks very nice in the nude, it would just be... awkward to get nude photos from her. If she were to offer, I would have to decline. -_-
...but would you still send the WoW cash in that case? :)
Quote from: Caliga on January 14, 2010, 07:42:03 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 14, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
While I'm sure Korea looks very nice in the nude, it would just be... awkward to get nude photos from her. If she were to offer, I would have to decline. -_-
...but would you still send the WoW cash in that case? :)
I am both a gentleman, and lazy.
So no.
*shrug* I tried. Sorry, toots.
:hug: I appreciate the effort.
Since BB is a gentleman and a gentleman never tells I think we can assume that in fact Korea has indeed sent her photos and BB has already sent her the gold.
Recent achievements-
Mage- The Black Temple(kill Illidan)
Druid- For the Horde(kill alliance leaders)
Paladin- Alterac Valley All-Star(gy cap, tower cap, gy defense, tower defense, kill in fos, same battle)
Priest- Iron Man(3 flag caps in WSG, 0 deaths)
Gonna pretend anybody cares cause I felt like posting 'em. :P Got the AV one 5 minutes ago.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 17, 2010, 04:36:47 PM
Recent achievements-
Mage- The Black Temple(kill Illidan)
Druid- For the Horde(kill alliance leaders)
Paladin- Alterac Valley All-Star(gy cap, tower cap, gy defense, tower defense, kill in fos, same battle)
Priest- Iron Man(3 flag caps in WSG, 0 deaths)
Gonna pretend anybody cares cause I felt like posting 'em. :P Got the AV one 5 minutes ago.
Grats!
Ironically, I think the new Dungeon Finder system will destroy the current guild system as it now stands. It will be interesting to see what emerges. People now longer run instances with people from their own server which makes it almost impossible to find recruits.
My guess is that high end raiding guilds will survive because they are pretty much gear based anyways, so finding new members won't be as difficult. Social guilds will most certainly end up vanishing. Guilds made up of friends may survive but they will be unable to morph into anything bigger.
In my opinion it's becoming less of an MMO and more of a lot of people playing a single player game that just happens to have other people on the server.
I dunno. The anonymity of the lfg tool is rather unsatisfying at times even for me. I'm sure socially-oriented players will still find people to play with regularly.
BTW, anyone know if the next expansion will allow non-belf horde pallies?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 17, 2010, 05:54:54 PM
BTW, anyone know if the next expansion will allow non-belf horde pallies?
It will. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Tauren Pallies, but I think there are one or two others.
Quote from: Strix on January 17, 2010, 05:46:06 PM
Ironically, I think the new Dungeon Finder system will destroy the current guild system as it now stands. It will be interesting to see what emerges. People now longer run instances with people from their own server which makes it almost impossible to find recruits.
My guess is that high end raiding guilds will survive because they are pretty much gear based anyways, so finding new members won't be as difficult. Social guilds will most certainly end up vanishing. Guilds made up of friends may survive but they will be unable to morph into anything bigger.
In my opinion it's becoming less of an MMO and more of a lot of people playing a single player game that just happens to have other people on the server.
I could see it being a boon for RP servers. You can now have guilds based around ideas and storylines rather than be forced to make guilds that are raid capable. On regular servers though, I think you're right.
You guys realize the dungeon finder is only for 5-mans, right? People are still going to raid with guild groups or pickup groups from their server.
Quote from: Barrister on January 17, 2010, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 17, 2010, 05:54:54 PM
BTW, anyone know if the next expansion will allow non-belf horde pallies?
It will. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Tauren Pallies, but I think there are one or two others.
Its just going to be blood elves and tauren.
The Dungeon Finder System doesn't really affect the guild system that much. Those who want to push end game raid content can't rely on it. In order to get the harder stuff down (heroic modes) you really need a steady roster of 10/25 people hitting the bricks every week. I am unsure if theres a raid random dungeon finder but I imagine it'd be highly ineffective against Ice crown raid content.
Indeed. In fact, it will arguably make it easier for people to join raid guilds, because now they can get decent gear to raid by doing the randoms in LFG system and then apply, rather than having to rely on guildies to boost them.
QuoteZarhym popped into one of the many official forum topics complaining about the seemingly inordinate amount of times Old Kingdom pops on the Dungeon Finder to offer some welcome news for exhausted dungeon runners: Old Kingdom and Nexus alike will be receiving some adjustments meant to bring the dungeons in line with other Wrath heroics.
Old Kingdom will receive the most changes. Elder Nadox will spawn only one Ahn'Kahar Guardian and Jedoga Shadowseeker will ascend only once in their respective encounters. In addition, some static trash groups will be removed, while some roaming groups will have their paths altered. He stressed that these changes are not meant to make the dungeon easier, but rather to make it a slightly quicker run, more in line with other heroics. He also acknowledged that the dungeon finder made the daily quest associated with the dungeon somewhat complicated to obtain and turn in, and while the dev team would like to fix it, they still haven't found a satisfactory solution.
Later in the thread, he announced a similar change to Nexus, namely that Anomalus will use his Create Rift ability much less often. Finally, he revealed that a "quick start" option for the Culling of Stratholme is in the works, but will likely not be ready for the next minor patch due to the complicated scripting required.
All of these changes, I am sure, will cause great joy among the badge running crowd. I admit I never disliked the lore of the Culling of Stratholme instance, but after the first 10 times, you know, it loses some of the lustre. This also makes me wonder which dungeon is next. It seems like Halls of Stone is really the only dungeon left that still has a problem with people dropping group. I'm guessing we might see a reduction of the time to victory on the Tribunal of Ages event, and possibly a pruning of the trash before Krystallus and Maiden of Grief to give more incentive to grab them.
Regardless, there's no word on when these changes will be implemented, but all the same, they should be welcome. Stay tuned for any more news on this stealthily announced "minor patch" as we hear it.
MOAR EMBLEMZ!
QuoteNexus will be receiving some adjustments meant to bring the dungeons in line with other Wrath heroics.
:blink: And thus they decided to NERF it?
It's not about nerfing - it's about making it less long.
Nexus makes up for being longer by having more bosses/badges.
Any urge I had to come back to this game was quickly killed by the notion of having to collect badges.
Badges?! We don't need no stinking badges!
Someone had to say that. :(
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2010, 06:14:23 PM
Any urge I had to come back to this game was quickly killed by the notion of having to collect badges.
It is a slightly more interesting mechanic to earn gear than to run the same instance numerous times hoping for a low % drop...
Quote from: Jaron on January 17, 2010, 11:03:30 PM
Its just going to be blood elves and tauren.
The Dungeon Finder System doesn't really affect the guild system that much. Those who want to push end game raid content can't rely on it. In order to get the harder stuff down (heroic modes) you really need a steady roster of 10/25 people hitting the bricks every week. I am unsure if theres a raid random dungeon finder but I imagine it'd be highly ineffective against Ice crown raid content.
I take it you aren't playing anymore.
Quote from: Martinus on January 18, 2010, 04:50:04 AM
QuoteZarhym popped into one of the many official forum topics complaining about the seemingly inordinate amount of times Old Kingdom pops on the Dungeon Finder to offer some welcome news for exhausted dungeon runners: Old Kingdom and Nexus alike will be receiving some adjustments meant to bring the dungeons in line with other Wrath heroics.
Old Kingdom will receive the most changes. Elder Nadox will spawn only one Ahn'Kahar Guardian and Jedoga Shadowseeker will ascend only once in their respective encounters. In addition, some static trash groups will be removed, while some roaming groups will have their paths altered. He stressed that these changes are not meant to make the dungeon easier, but rather to make it a slightly quicker run, more in line with other heroics. He also acknowledged that the dungeon finder made the daily quest associated with the dungeon somewhat complicated to obtain and turn in, and while the dev team would like to fix it, they still haven't found a satisfactory solution.
Later in the thread, he announced a similar change to Nexus, namely that Anomalus will use his Create Rift ability much less often. Finally, he revealed that a "quick start" option for the Culling of Stratholme is in the works, but will likely not be ready for the next minor patch due to the complicated scripting required.
All of these changes, I am sure, will cause great joy among the badge running crowd. I admit I never disliked the lore of the Culling of Stratholme instance, but after the first 10 times, you know, it loses some of the lustre. This also makes me wonder which dungeon is next. It seems like Halls of Stone is really the only dungeon left that still has a problem with people dropping group. I'm guessing we might see a reduction of the time to victory on the Tribunal of Ages event, and possibly a pruning of the trash before Krystallus and Maiden of Grief to give more incentive to grab them.
Regardless, there's no word on when these changes will be implemented, but all the same, they should be welcome. Stay tuned for any more news on this stealthily announced "minor patch" as we hear it.
MOAR EMBLEMZ!
I just am happy they'll tinker with OK. It's way to long an instance and noob tanks end up wiping a group several times on the last area to clear to end boss and the chick.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 17, 2010, 11:01:47 PM
You guys realize the dungeon finder is only for 5-mans, right? People are still going to raid with guild groups or pickup groups from their server.
Yes but where do guilds recruit from? And who runs pickup groups that much anymore? Most of the guilds I have belonged to recruited in three ways. They'd allow friends in, they'd allow people to apply, and they invite trial members from pickup groups (especially 5 man heroics). The new system basically reduces it to people applying based on gearscore now.
Most pickup groups are composed of end game guild alts who need badges or a chance at lower content gear. Most conversation is reduced to "kick the noob, l2P, or in my guild we XXX". They aren't that talkative and any possible invite would be for a healer or tank.
I just see it hurting the social guilds which are made up of the more casual player who makes up a large percentage of WoW's player base.
Quote from: Strix on January 18, 2010, 09:02:06 PM
Quote from: Jaron on January 17, 2010, 11:03:30 PM
Its just going to be blood elves and tauren.
The Dungeon Finder System doesn't really affect the guild system that much. Those who want to push end game raid content can't rely on it. In order to get the harder stuff down (heroic modes) you really need a steady roster of 10/25 people hitting the bricks every week. I am unsure if theres a raid random dungeon finder but I imagine it'd be highly ineffective against Ice crown raid content.
I take it you aren't playing anymore.
Not much, why?
Quote from: Strix on January 18, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 17, 2010, 11:01:47 PM
You guys realize the dungeon finder is only for 5-mans, right? People are still going to raid with guild groups or pickup groups from their server.
Yes but where do guilds recruit from? And who runs pickup groups that much anymore? Most of the guilds I have belonged to recruited in three ways. They'd allow friends in, they'd allow people to apply, and they invite trial members from pickup groups (especially 5 man heroics). The new system basically reduces it to people applying based on gearscore now.
Most pickup groups are composed of end game guild alts who need badges or a chance at lower content gear. Most conversation is reduced to "kick the noob, l2P, or in my guild we XXX". They aren't that talkative and any possible invite would be for a healer or tank.
I just see it hurting the social guilds which are made up of the more casual player who makes up a large percentage of WoW's player base.
Most guilds that recruit now will do so through friends, trade channel recruiting and forum posts. I don't think random 5 mans were ever a hot recruiting spot for most guilds. What a lot of guilds do nowadays is host a weekly raid of some kind and if the guild does well they invite interested people to apply to join.
The new LFG system does make it less likely you'll get to know people on your own server, this is true, but I don't see it having a huge impact on raiding guilds. The RP guilds will be fine too. Its going to be the little guilds that will be hurt the most.
Quote from: Barrister on January 18, 2010, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 18, 2010, 06:14:23 PM
Any urge I had to come back to this game was quickly killed by the notion of having to collect badges.
It is a slightly more interesting mechanic to earn gear than to run the same instance numerous times hoping for a low % drop...
Now you need to run the instance the same number of times to accumulate the required number of badges. I agree it is a good mechanic to keep people putting time into the game - since all you really need to put in to get gear is time.
I liked it better when you had to have some skill to get into the raids that got the good gear but that doesnt translate well into as good a commercial success.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 19, 2010, 02:15:34 PM
I liked it better when you had to have some skill to get into the raids that got the good gear but that doesnt translate well into as good a commercial success.
No, no it doesn't. The casual players won that war. Companies began to realize that people who take ten times as long to accomplish their goals pay that much more money than hardcore players who get succeed quickly and get bored just as fast.
Quote from: Strix on January 19, 2010, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 19, 2010, 02:15:34 PM
I liked it better when you had to have some skill to get into the raids that got the good gear but that doesnt translate well into as good a commercial success.
No, no it doesn't. The casual players won that war. Companies began to realize that people who take ten times as long to accomplish their goals pay that much more money than hardcore players who get succeed quickly and get bored just as fast.
I thought they hit a rather nice "keep everyone happy" model. New content is damn hard, which keeps the hardcore competing, which drives buzz and interest, even if 96% of the people are not involved in that race at all. They may not be involved, but they do care, at least some of them.
Then, a few months later, they just start dumbing it all down. Remove entrance requirements, lower "nearly as good" epic costs so you can get into the next level dungeon without having to do the previous necessarily, etc., etc.
The hardcore is a little annoyed because now everyone is running around with the Black Bow of the Betrayer, but hey, there is another dungeon that you are trying to be server first on, so who really cares?
I ahve to admit I am having a lot of fun on my second run through as a hunter. the first time Div went through TBC, he was in a pretty full set of epics already, so the quest rewards and such weren't interesting at all. Now I actually care about what is going to drop from a boss in Hellfire Ramparts.
The only bitch I have, if it is even a bitch, is that I can tell I am going to level through the 60-70 zone very, very fast. No way to actually do all the quests in each zone before I've leveled out of it.
And I fucking hate Death Knights. They are basically unstoppable at the 58-62 levels with their insanely awesome gear they are handed for nothing. Talk about the ultimate WoW flavor of the month class.
I was rather pleasantly surprised when I stepped in 50-59 AB last week and there were only a couple death knights. 10 months ago they would have been over half the bg population.
Quote from: Berkut on January 27, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
Talk about the ultimate WoW flavor of the month class.
More like Flavor of the Year.
Quote from: Berkut on January 27, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
I thought they hit a rather nice "keep everyone happy" model. New content is damn hard, which keeps the hardcore competing, which drives buzz and interest, even if 96% of the people are not involved in that race at all. They may not be involved, but they do care, at least some of them.
Then, a few months later, they just start dumbing it all down. Remove entrance requirements, lower "nearly as good" epic costs so you can get into the next level dungeon without having to do the previous necessarily, etc., etc.
The hardcore is a little annoyed because now everyone is running around with the Black Bow of the Betrayer, but hey, there is another dungeon that you are trying to be server first on, so who really cares?
Dude that was the model pre LK.
Now it's all about the achivements of doing raids with x amount of people or without killing some such sub boss.
Well - guild can now cruise through Marrowgar, Deathwhisper, Gunships, Saurfang and Festergut -- then we hit Rotface. WTF. LOL
http://kotaku.com/5461715/the-lich-king-would-like-a-word-with-you?autoplay=true
This is awesome. NSFW if you're bosses are bitches.
New dungeons are hard in the "I've never done this before" sense.
What sucks I think for the "hard core" folks is that in order to do the dungeon on heroic, which is the closest to the difficulty most remember from BC, you have to fully clear the dungeon on regular. (raids only)
Quote from: Jaron on February 01, 2010, 09:27:06 PM
New dungeons are hard in the "I've never done this before" sense.
What sucks I think for the "hard core" folks is that in order to do the dungeon on heroic, which is the closest to the difficulty most remember from BC, you have to fully clear the dungeon on regular. (raids only)
Are you still playing on Lightninghoof? I've just seen you on the one time, and you popped in for like 5 minutes.
Quote from: Berkut on January 27, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
And I fucking hate Death Knights. They are basically unstoppable at the 58-62 levels with their insanely awesome gear they are handed for nothing. Talk about the ultimate WoW flavor of the month class.
I thought the basic idea with the DK class was that, as a hero class, it was a reward for longtime players.... and wasn't supposed to be balanced at the low levels (just at the level cap).
Quote from: Caliga on February 03, 2010, 06:22:43 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 27, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
And I fucking hate Death Knights. They are basically unstoppable at the 58-62 levels with their insanely awesome gear they are handed for nothing. Talk about the ultimate WoW flavor of the month class.
I thought the basic idea with the DK class was that, as a hero class, it was a reward for longtime players.... and wasn't supposed to be balanced at the low levels (just at the level cap).
At level 80 I don't think DKs are over powered. I used to think so at first, but I think DKs are pretty evenly matched in pvp.
Quote from: Caliga on February 03, 2010, 06:22:43 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 27, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
And I fucking hate Death Knights. They are basically unstoppable at the 58-62 levels with their insanely awesome gear they are handed for nothing. Talk about the ultimate WoW flavor of the month class.
I thought the basic idea with the DK class was that, as a hero class, it was a reward for longtime players.... and wasn't supposed to be balanced at the low levels (just at the level cap).
I think you are correct. At 80th, they really balance out as compared to other 80's. Before that though, they are nasty. However, with a bloodied arcanite reaper, my ret pally never died to one while leveling in the BC zones.
Well, pallies are beasts. :D
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 04, 2010, 03:22:57 PM
Well, pallies are beasts. :D
I would say its more situation awareness. I rarely get surprised as I am constantly looking around (my V key reverses my camera and I hit it a lot out of habit now). Thus, I would typically open up with a stun, which rarely got trinketed out of since most people don't equip their pvp trinket while questing. On the rare occasion I did get ganked, I would simply bubble and re-set the fight. Pallies level out at 80 as well because the burst is less effective with the massive hit point pools people can get at that level.
I have been playing my shadow priest now since the pally is triumph badged out. Wow - they are nasty now that haste affects dots. Too much fun.
Hey guys I have a question. I am starting to level my rogue PvP "twink" (in quotation marks as I intend to level him all the way to 80, just want to do it mainly through PvP and supplement with dungeons) and for PvP I am wondering: should I go two daggers and get one PvP BoA dagger and one PvE BoA one (cant get two PvP BoA daggers as they are unique-equip) or go the PvP BoA dagger and another PvP BoA weapon (most likely the sword as I already have it on my warrior)?
Having two daggers is obviously more fun due to being able to do all the backstab etc. moves, but I lose some resilience from the PvP sword this way.
Depends on what build you're running. For mutilate, you obviously need both daggers. For a subtlety build focusing on ambush/backstab, you'll need a dagger mainhand. For a hemo or combat build, you'll want a slower MH weapon. Offhand type doesn't matter that much, but faster is generally better(more poison procs).
My guild just died and not in a fun dramatic way either.
Quote from: Liep on February 09, 2010, 03:00:50 PM
My guild just died and not in a fun dramatic way either.
Sorry to hear that. My guild went through some guild drama when we split from a 25 man raiding guild to a 10 man raiding guild. Amusingly, the "cause" of the split left our guild not too long after being a party to the strife. Go figure.
Btw...threw down and bought myself an Alienware gaming system. I typically build my own computers, but was too lazy to do it this time. All I can say is WOW -- thus far I am very impressed with the new system. Thing is blazingly fast. :D
Quote from: Lndhand on February 09, 2010, 03:12:58 PM
Btw...threw down and bought myself an Alienware gaming system. I typically build my own computers, but was too lazy to do it this time. All I can say is WOW -- thus far I am very impressed with the new system. Thing is blazingly fast. :D
I just did the same last week! :showoff:
Quote from: Strix on February 10, 2010, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: Lndhand on February 09, 2010, 03:12:58 PM
Btw...threw down and bought myself an Alienware gaming system. I typically build my own computers, but was too lazy to do it this time. All I can say is WOW -- thus far I am very impressed with the new system. Thing is blazingly fast. :D
I just did the same last week! :showoff:
Grats! It is so nice to have a new machine. Unfortunatley, my UPS just died (I tried replacing the batteries to no avail) so I guess its time to get another.
I just got some truly horrible Phishing Email attempts telling me my account was about to be suspended for gold selling....one problem they jokers sent it to an e-mail address i've never ever had associated with WoW.
:lol:
Whoa, lots of gameplay changes in the incoming patch.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
Some of the most interesting:
- overhaul of the battleground system (in short, works like random dungeon now, awards only honor - marks go away - and you get also arena points for the first random battleground each day; all rewards are purchasable with honor or honor and arena points only);
- subtlety rogues get buffed :menace:
- removal of CD for titansteel and special cloths made by tailors (this will greatly affect the game economy imo)
- you can now skip the intro in Culling of Stratholme (Finally!)
Augh. I loved going afk during the COT speech and coming back once the first two bosses were dead.
My favorite addition: you can now trade 1 Frozen Orb for 1 Frost Lotus! I'm covered on flasks until Cataclysm is released...
Quote from: Fate on February 23, 2010, 05:34:47 AM
Augh. I loved going afk during the COT speech and coming back once the first two bosses were dead.
My favorite addition: you can now trade 1 Frozen Orb for 1 Frost Lotus! I'm covered on flasks until Cataclysm is released...
Yes, bless Blizzard's gaming souls for the frozen orb changes. Better start rolling need now. :lol:
Who the heck has a character named Tancy?
Quote from: Martinus on February 23, 2010, 05:17:36 AM
- subtlety rogues get buffed :menace:
That hemo change looks quite nice, may change my pvp spec from mutilate.
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 03:10:36 PM
Who the heck has a character named Tancy?
Stonie. It is his mage alt.
Just hit level 80 with my pally. :cool:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 28, 2010, 08:27:43 AM
Just hit level 80 with my pally. :cool:
Grats! Fun class especially for us twitch challenged players.
Tom Cruise on warrior PvP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGDcwOxBzY)
I'm excited. We finally killed Sindragosa and have begun work on the Lich King. Hopefully he dies this coming week.
Completed my tour of Mulgore and The Barrens with my 35 Alliance Priest on Ravenholdt, an RP-PVP server with a 3-1 Horde majority. Needless to say, it was touch and go.
Dang dude, do you play like once a month or something?
Haha, maybe twice. I get on streaks where I'll play for a couple days, then not for a couple weeks. My problem is sticking to the same character during my fit and starts of playing.
Quote from: Stonewall on March 19, 2010, 02:15:08 AM
I'm excited. We finally killed Sindragosa and have begun work on the Lich King. Hopefully he dies this coming week.
don't stand in the defile nub
So now I have 3 bg dailies in addition to 3 heroics, gonna have trouble finding time to level alts up. :hmm:
Come play with me on Sisters of Elune :hmm:
You come back to Lightninghoof. :contract:
Quote from: Jaron on March 24, 2010, 03:31:28 AM
Come play with me on Sisters of Elune :hmm:
What faction? I've got a few characters on there.
I'm on both sides. I have no stomach for the Hoof. Just isnt the same without my peeps there. :cry:
Quote from: Jaron on March 24, 2010, 04:42:24 AM
I'm on both sides. I have no stomach for the Hoof. Just isnt the same without my peeps there. :cry:
Jaron has peeps?!? :nelson:
Not anymore. He ate them all.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.chron.com%2Fblogs%2Fwhitehouse%2Farchives%2Fpeeps.jpg&hash=0c298e6ffccaebf5cafd0ad7dccb516127aac86c)
I hated those things. :yuk:
:hmm:
@ Strixx -- hit up Celebrial for a guild invite. I spoke to her last night. :D
I got my first title!! :showoff:
:lol:
Cataclysm class changes to be revealed starting tomorrow:
QuoteBeginning Wednesday, April 7 we will begin releasing class previews containing an overview of some of the changes currently being planned for each of the 10 World of Warcraft classes. The type of information you can expect from these posts are a list of the new spells from 80-85, the new passive mastery bonuses for all talent trees, a brief outline of some of the talent changes we're currently planning, and in some cases new low level spells for select classes.
These changes will by no means be comprehensive, and are subject to change between now and the launch of the expansion. It's also important to understand that some classes are currently further along in the development process than others, and as a result the amount of information will vary from class to class. Please do not let this frustrate you should your class be amongst those which are on the "lighter" side of things, as all classes will receive the same level of design attention before the expansion is released. Additionally we'll be providing more information for all classes, especially as we move into the beta phase.
Below is the schedule for each class:
* Shaman - April 7
* Priest - April 7
* Warlock - April 7
* Warrior - April 8
* Death Knight - April 8
* Rogue - April 8
* Hunter - April 9
* Druid - April 9
* Mage - April 9
* Paladin - April 16*
These posts are being coordinated internationally so they'll be posted at different times throughout the day and night on the given dates to give players around the world the ability to see posts made at a convenient time. This thread will be updated with links directly to each class preview as they're posted.
*The paladin is still deep in development. Instead of giving a preview that would be potentially less comprehensive than the other classes we made the decision to post it when it's ready, in order to properly honor the paladin class and those that play them. The wait isn't too long however as we're expecting to be able to post it on April 16.
Will be interesting to see how much they actually have changed in the talent trees.
I predict that the Paladin will be OP.
They've been saying the pally is in for nerfs, or at least protection spec.
Rogue and warrior buffs/modifications are sweet. Finally no more Heroic Strike "on next swing" mechanic. :rolleyes:
Life grip. :bleeding:
I also love the warlock changes. I may go back to my lock as it makes them a very interesting class (sorta like DKs with their special resource).
Mages get bloodlust, frost trap and an orb that shoots fire. Hohum.
Druids get an ae bleed for feral and an ae mushroom for balance. People have already started calling them "shroomkin."
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 10, 2010, 02:52:35 AM
Mages get bloodlust, frost trap and an orb that shoots fire. Hohum.
Druids get an ae bleed for feral and an ae mushroom for balance. People have already started calling them "shroomkin."
A thirty yard long frost trap that is. And a great ball of fire, oh dear.
Also, I welcome a new button to press instead of just swipe spam for my druid.
So I just got an e-mail from "Blizzard Entertainment" claiming that I am trying to sell my account. :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 23, 2011, 12:59:26 AM
So I just got an e-mail from "Blizzard Entertainment" claiming that I am trying to sell my account. :hmm:
Heh i get those all the time...
the catch is they are sent to email account that has never been associated with my WoW account.
And they link to websites with no affiliation to Blizzard. :P
or to domain that don't actually exist.
The trick? When Blizzard sends you an email, a real email. It always starts by Dear [your first name].
It's no guarantee but it's the first sign.
I got an email recently that said someone had complained about me and my account could be in jeopardy if I didn't respond with the link provided. I figured it was one of the scams going around. It seemed a pretty decently well done scam, so the scammers are probably putting on a good facade. I contacted a Blizzard Game Manager in game to ask about it and the response was not to worry, it was a scam that happens all the time.
Also, I have yet to see a scam mail without grammatical errors.
Are you still playing people? on a realm in particular? I am already established on Nazjatar PVP server but I could create a character where Languishians play.
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 02, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Are you still playing people? on a realm in particular? I am already established on Nazjatar PVP server but I could create a character where Languishians play.
Well myself and Jaron and Crazy Canuck are playing regularly on Uther PVE
Grey Fox, Berkut, vonMoltke and Beeb all have characters in our guild, but none of them have been on in over a month :lol:
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2011, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 02, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Are you still playing people? on a realm in particular? I am already established on Nazjatar PVP server but I could create a character where Languishians play.
Well myself and Jaron and Crazy Canuck are playing regularly on Uther PVE
Grey Fox, Berkut, vonMoltke and Beeb all have characters in our guild, but none of them have been on in over a month :lol:
I have so little time to play any games. :(
I do want to at least level up to 85.
Quote from: Barrister on May 03, 2011, 12:03:34 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2011, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 02, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Are you still playing people? on a realm in particular? I am already established on Nazjatar PVP server but I could create a character where Languishians play.
Well myself and Jaron and Crazy Canuck are playing regularly on Uther PVE
Grey Fox, Berkut, vonMoltke and Beeb all have characters in our guild, but none of them have been on in over a month :lol:
I have so little time to play any games. :(
I do want to at least level up to 85.
Says the guy who stopped at 84 2/3's!
:P
Quote from: katmai on May 03, 2011, 12:04:27 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 03, 2011, 12:03:34 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2011, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 02, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Are you still playing people? on a realm in particular? I am already established on Nazjatar PVP server but I could create a character where Languishians play.
Well myself and Jaron and Crazy Canuck are playing regularly on Uther PVE
Grey Fox, Berkut, vonMoltke and Beeb all have characters in our guild, but none of them have been on in over a month :lol:
I have so little time to play any games. :(
I do want to at least level up to 85.
Says the guy who stopped at 84 2/3's!
:P
So I don't have far to go. :)
On what side are you playing on Uther? and what is the guild's name? And who should I contact to be invited in the guild? ;)
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 03, 2011, 12:16:55 AM
On what side are you playing on Uther? and what is the guild's name? And who should I contact to be invited in the guild? ;)
Alliance, Vita Infinita, ME (Hartza) as an officer in guild. Or can contact other officers and say friend of Mine or CC (Mith), that would likely get you an invite, not sure if say know Jaron (Bethlen) :lol:
I still play, but on a rp server (Wyrmrest Accord). I am: :nerd:
I got to 85 & since I didn't want to raid. I had no more reason to continue playing.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on May 03, 2011, 02:05:20 AM
I still play, but on a rp server (Wyrmrest Accord). I am: :nerd:
Do you rp walk everywhere? :yucky:
I got an 85, 80 and trash on an undisclosed server. NOT an rp server.
Quote from: The Brain on May 03, 2011, 10:22:28 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on May 03, 2011, 02:05:20 AM
I still play, but on a rp server (Wyrmrest Accord). I am: :nerd:
Do you rp walk everywhere? :yucky:
Very rarely. Depends on the situation.
Quote from: The Brain on May 03, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
I got an 85, 80 and trash on an undisclosed server. NOT an rp server.
Nobody's interested in your crappy Euroserver.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 03, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 03, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
I got an 85, 80 and trash on an undisclosed server. NOT an rp server.
Nobody's interested in your crappy Euroserver.
Wow, talk about bringing out the worst in people.
Damn I must be a saint. :lol:
Quote from: katmai on May 02, 2011, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 02, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Are you still playing people? on a realm in particular? I am already established on Nazjatar PVP server but I could create a character where Languishians play.
Well myself and Jaron and Crazy Canuck are playing regularly on Uther PVE
Grey Fox, Berkut, vonMoltke and Beeb all have characters in our guild, but none of them have been on in over a month :lol:
I tried to play but you wouldn't send my rogue any money you cheap bastard! :secret:
I stopped playing when they nerfed ferals, they still suck?
I switched to Alliance recently, mainly because most of the people I used to be in a guild in the past, who are still around, play Alliance now.
My characters are:
Howland, a worgen warrior (tank).
Mellario, a drenei (female) priest (healer).
Oberyn, a night elf rogue (dps).
Quote from: Pat on May 03, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
I stopped playing when they nerfed ferals, they still suck?
In what regards?
PvP? yeah even though added back some snare freeing effects our heyday is over.
PvE? Feral Cat dps is still lowish, but Feral Tanks are doing fine and last patch helped with threat and dmg.
Having not played a priest for like 5 years, I have to really say I am enjoying my new (tauren) priest. Instant randoms = win.
Quote from: katmai on May 04, 2011, 04:54:45 AM
Quote from: Pat on May 03, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
I stopped playing when they nerfed ferals, they still suck?
In what regards?
PvP? yeah even though added back some snare freeing effects our heyday is over.
PvE? Feral Cat dps is still lowish, but Feral Tanks are doing fine and last patch helped with threat and dmg.
Mostly had PvP in mind, man I was so pissed when they took away our snare break that ferals had had for forever.
As a pve'r I was pissed that I lost snare break because of a perceived pvp imbalance. :D
Quote from: Caliga on May 04, 2011, 06:56:26 AM
Having not played a priest for like 5 years, I have to really say I am enjoying my new (tauren) priest. Instant randoms = win.
Are you Discipline or Holy? Both are fun in healing. As a Discipline priest you can pretty much dps the entire time while keeping the party at full health, and with a Holy priest you get the chakras which work like stances/auras.
Holy right now but I'm only to level 24 so it's not like it really matters yet.
Instancing with HealBot is like being in a trance, though. I really have no idea what's going on most of the time because I'm focused on healing and the HealBot interface LIKE A LASER. :cool:
Level 24 eh. So probably still the tanks getting the insta queues at max.
We haven't played in about a week, but for a week or so me, Princesca, and my bro would queue up. Princesca = tank, me = healer, brother = 'lock. Definitely instant queues there. The few times I've solo queued with my priest I still get an instant group like 90% of the time.
Quote from: Caliga on May 04, 2011, 09:37:04 AM
Holy right now but I'm only to level 24 so it's not like it really matters yet.
Instancing with HealBot is like being in a trance, though. I really have no idea what's going on most of the time because I'm focused on healing and the HealBot interface LIKE A LASER. :cool:
You are going to have to break that habit pretty quickly. The new dungeons are all about situational awareness for healers.
Quickly or over the next 56 levels. :P
Quote from: Liep on May 04, 2011, 11:58:36 AM
Quickly or over the next 56 levels. :P
Those actually go very fast. With heirlooms and Guild level exp boosts combined with the built in levelling excelleration for lower levels, leveling flies by.
So yes, best not get into bad habits you have to unlearn in very short order.
20 quatloos says Cal doesn't make it to 80 on his priest. :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 04, 2011, 12:28:59 PM
20 quatloos says Cal doesn't make it to 80 on his priest. :P
:unsure:
My tank leveled up insanely fast, and I almost never got XP from anything other than PvP and instances.
I lost interest when I hit Outland though. Just couldn't bring myself to go through that part of the grind again.
And my 85 Hunter is just kind of like...yeah. I guess I could go do some more dailies....or maybe something is going on on Languish...
Quote from: Berkut on May 04, 2011, 03:41:51 PM
I lost interest when I hit Outland though. Just couldn't bring myself to go through that part of the grind again.
:yes: :x
I quit WOW in December. The expansion ruined the game for me ultimately. It was a good run though. :D
Quote from: Berkut on May 04, 2011, 03:41:51 PM
I lost interest when I hit Outland though. Just couldn't bring myself to go through that part of the grind again.
But you can level through it pretty quickly. On a mage I didnt do many of the quests before I was out of there. I didnt even see three of the zones.
Quote from: katmai on May 03, 2011, 12:29:13 AM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 03, 2011, 12:16:55 AM
On what side are you playing on Uther? and what is the guild's name? And who should I contact to be invited in the guild? ;)
Alliance, Vita Infinita, ME (Hartza) as an officer in guild. Or can contact other officers and say friend of Mine or CC (Mith), that would likely get you an invite, not sure if say know Jaron (Bethlen) :lol:
Ima make a toon on Uther.
I made a Priest names Darlah.
Korea is still around! :hug:
Katmai, when are you playing there? I want to know when I can log there and join the guild.
Quote from: Rex Francorum on May 07, 2011, 12:54:03 AM
Katmai, when are you playing there? I want to know when I can log there and join the guild.
Sorry, been working this week, will be on Sunday night for sure.
Rex, havent seen you on. If I am on I can get you invited. I think I might even have invitation rights myself. Also, if you havent already done so you should apply on the Guild website. Just say you know me (Mith) Katmai (Hartza) and for Godsake renounce any knowledge of knowing Jaron.
Best to try and find CC
Looks like I'll be out of town for a month starting next week.
Created a draenei paladin, RexF (yeah very original xd)... Btw, I transfered 2 horde characters to Uther from the pvp server where I was.
LOL, I got kicked from my guild.
I've been the only one playing for 6 weeks, nobody ever logged. And yet, I was the one that got booted. Go fig.
Anyone still playing this?
I am: my brother, wife, and I are levelling new toons. For like the 30th time. :blush:
:thumbsup: Wyrmrest Accord, baby!
I just bought Cata. Anyone still playing on Lightninghoof?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 25, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
I just bought Cata. Anyone still playing on Lightninghoof?
Strix? :huh:
What about the alliance reroll group, you folks still playing?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 25, 2011, 02:36:34 PM
What about the alliance reroll group, you folks still playing?
I can't say, i've been stuck on this island working for last 5 weeks, so not sure if CC, Jaron or Demetrialos are playing much.
I get home tonight so will be checking out what is up tomorrow maybe.
Quote from: katmai on June 25, 2011, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 25, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
I just bought Cata. Anyone still playing on Lightninghoof?
Strix? :huh:
I have been on Nesingwary for sometime now. In a semi-casual raiding guild, Raids on Wed/Thur (11:00pm EST). If anyone wants to bring a horde over just let me know. I am an Officer and can invite you into the guild (Synergy is the guild name, just look for it and than Strix).
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 16, 2011, 01:42:51 PM
Anyone still playing this?
I am. Don't know for how much longer, though.
Every raiding night I end up quite frustrated (that is if we raid at all). 4.2 is just around the corner and we've only taken down 6 bosses (Halfus and all Blacking Descent minus Nef). We've got 5 competent players, some mediocre ones and what has to be the worst druid in WoW history. Also, the wives of guild members want to raid with their husbands. And they suck (with one exception, who at least learns fast and does a steady 15k DPS).
Paladin feels like a different class now.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 25, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
I just bought Cata. Anyone still playing on Lightninghoof?
I'm still there.
Quote from: katmai on June 25, 2011, 03:40:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 25, 2011, 02:36:34 PM
What about the alliance reroll group, you folks still playing?
I can't say, i've been stuck on this island working for last 5 weeks, so not sure if CC, Jaron or Demetrialos are playing much.
I get home tonight so will be checking out what is up tomorrow maybe.
Yep we are still playing. Getting our Druid tank back will be nice...
Just read the 4.2 patch notes. THE SKY IS FALLING
I never enjoyed any of the higher level stuff. So I stopped. Sounds like I quit at the right time.
Quote from: katmai on June 25, 2011, 03:40:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 25, 2011, 02:36:34 PM
What about the alliance reroll group, you folks still playing?
I can't say, i've been stuck on this island working for last 5 weeks, so not sure if CC, Jaron or Demetrialos are playing much.
I get home tonight so will be checking out what is up tomorrow maybe.
Didn't see Jaron or CC lately. Saw Demetrialos however. My lil paladin is 66 now... I am going for the loremaster achievement... Will probably reach Northrend at level 75. :lol:
Jaron was on last night raiding when i got on, saw CC who is now playing a priest? :o
Quote from: Rex Francorum on June 28, 2011, 02:23:13 AM
. Saw Demetrialos however. My lil paladin is 66 now... I am going for the loremaster achievement... Will probably reach Northrend at level 75. :lol:
So you are following in his footsteps? :hmm:
I'm less than 2,000 kills from 50,000 HKs.
Goblin starting area is pretty cool. I especially liked running over the line at the bank. :menace:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 07, 2011, 01:23:34 AM
Goblin starting area is pretty cool. I especially liked running over the line at the bank. :menace:
:yes:
Hit 85 on my mage today. Gotta say I like pvp much better now than in Wrath, more time to react to the changing situation on the field instead of getting globaled all the time.
I think Zul'drak might be the worst zone I've ever quested in. Wow. Just... awful.
The level 76ish zone? I liked that one. There were a couple annoying quests, but aren't there everywhere?
All of the level 50+ zones during vanilla were pretty poorly implemented, it was like pulling teeth to get to 60 once you'd finished with Un Goro. Also Blade's Edge Mountains when you couldn't fly yet. So I went to Shadowmoon Valley instead.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 22, 2011, 11:34:57 PM
The level 76ish zone? I liked that one. There were a couple annoying quests, but aren't there everywhere?
All of the level 50+ zones during vanilla were pretty poorly implemented, it was like pulling teeth to get to 60 once you'd finished with Un Goro. Also Blade's Edge Mountains when you couldn't fly yet. So I went to Shadowmoon Valley instead.
I guess I've been spoiled by the years since vanilla and how they've been better with flow. The zone is a combo of poorly worded quests with unclear objectives, kill grinds, and awful drop rate collection quests. Throw in dismal lighting, and not even the fairly interesting storyline can redeem it. The only reason I stuck with it was to get the The Argent Crusader title.
You mean this one? http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=945/the-argent-champion (http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=945/the-argent-champion)
You could just slap the tabard on and go dungeon grinding. :lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 23, 2011, 01:08:24 AM
You mean this one? http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=945/the-argent-champion (http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=945/the-argent-champion)
You could just slap the tabard on and go dungeon grinding. :lol:
Already got it. I've actually had the tabard since... level 30 or so? :nerd:
Personally, I'm developing a hearty disgust for those quests where there's way more opposition than you can handle and you're dependent upon friendly npcs. Npcs make shitty tanks.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 23, 2011, 02:56:02 AM
Personally, I'm developing a hearty disgust for those quests where there's way more opposition than you can handle and you're dependent upon friendly npcs. Npcs make shitty tanks.
The joys of being a tank. I don't think I could handle an NPC tank. Ew.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on July 22, 2011, 08:31:34 PM
I think Zul'drak might be the worst zone I've ever quested in. Wow. Just... awful.
Really? It's one of my favourite. I usually go Dragonblight->Zul'drak->Icecrown when I level my characters through 70-80.
Quote from: Martinus on July 23, 2011, 04:00:27 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on July 22, 2011, 08:31:34 PM
I think Zul'drak might be the worst zone I've ever quested in. Wow. Just... awful.
Really? It's one of my favourite. I usually go Dragonblight->Zul'drak->Icecrown when I level my characters through 70-80.
I like Zul'drak. I find that I can do a lot of quests quickly, with lots of areas for getting quests, and so can level fast there.
Managed to pick up Glyph of Death Strike for 2.3 silver. :cool: Good thing too, cause I have very little money on that server.
So the first week after hitting 85, I did several bgs a day, horde won about 2/3 of them. Yesterday, oh for too fucking many. Maybe you'll be seeing more of me on Uther. :sleep:
On a completely unrelated note, Uldum is awesome. Though the thousand gnomes I burnt to a crisp may disagree. :D
Uldum is by far my favorite region.
Blood. :wub:
Instant dungeon queues, doing 40% of group's overall damage as a tank, two shotting people in pvp...
The mage is lots of fun too. This game's in a good place right now, I think.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 31, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
Blood. :wub:
Instant dungeon queues, doing 40% of group's overall damage as a tank, two shotting people in pvp...
The mage is lots of fun too. This game's in a good place right now, I think.
I bet it looks that way from the perspective of the two most broken classes in the game. I will admit, it is pretty good, but mage and blood dk do need some nerfing.
I didn't even mention my feral druid. :P
Honestly the mage(he's arcane btw) doesn't feel overpowered. He does a shitload of damage if ignored, but practically nothing if somebody focuses on him, and he'll get killed pretty easily if they use their gap closers well.
I wasn't just talking about pvp though. The new dungeons are tuned well, harder than Wrath and easier than BC. Some of the new questlines are interesting. Lots of pretty cinematic sequences.
I got my 50,000 HKs achievement last weekend. That's a lot of dead teenyboppers.
Grats. Sitting at 55.7k on mage, apparently got 50k April of 2010. About 40k of those were earned at level 60 or earlier. Old School AV was great for racking up the numbers.
It's kinda funny, you can only get 175 Conquest points a week from regular bgs, but you can get 980 from dungeons. :lol: Running heroics for pvp gear ftw.
New expansion is apparently called 'Mists of Pandaria', karate pandas coming up. Wooo?
That's funny, I thought it was August. :hmm:
Though a new martial arts based class would be great.
I got the Amani Battle Bear. PUG ftw. :)
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2011, 02:20:20 PM
I got the Amani Battle Bear. PUG ftw. :)
That's so last season. I prefer D&G bears.
I picked up the OS drake a couple weeks ago and the goblin trikes about a week ago. Now working on getting a camel from the cat people in Uldum.
This expansion was a lot of fun but I have had my fill of WoW again.
I will probably check back in to see if the next expansion is going to be fun.
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
This expansion was a lot of fun but I have had my fill of WoW again.
I will probably check back in to see if the next expansion is going to be fun.
I think the pattern is fairly well set. The expansions are fun for awhile, but I'm less and less interested in max level grind.
I'll definitely buy "Mists of Panderia" or whatever, play for several months, and quit again.
Quote from: Barrister on August 05, 2011, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
This expansion was a lot of fun but I have had my fill of WoW again.
I will probably check back in to see if the next expansion is going to be fun.
I think the pattern is fairly well set. The expansions are fun for awhile, but I'm less and less interested in max level grind.
I'll definitely buy "Mists of Panderia" or whatever, play for several months, and quit again.
I like the end game better than getting there (although levelling through Uldum was really fun in this expansion). Its just that I have been playing the end game for quite a while - on two toons now - and even that becomes unfun after a while.
Grinding anything is, well, a grind.
I enjoy playing new content, which is what an xpac gives. As soon as you're stuck running the same content over and over I lose interest.
I have an obsessive personality so I like grinding shit more than an average player. Achievements are what hooked me - I now collect pets and stuff. :P
Quote from: Barrister on August 05, 2011, 12:43:38 PM
I enjoy playing new content, which is what an xpac gives. As soon as you're stuck running the same content over and over I lose interest.
Agreed. Fortunately, the content in Warsong/AB/Twin Peaks is constantly changing. :)
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2011, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 05, 2011, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
This expansion was a lot of fun but I have had my fill of WoW again.
I will probably check back in to see if the next expansion is going to be fun.
I think the pattern is fairly well set. The expansions are fun for awhile, but I'm less and less interested in max level grind.
I'll definitely buy "Mists of Panderia" or whatever, play for several months, and quit again.
I like the end game better than getting there (although levelling through Uldum was really fun in this expansion). Its just that I have been playing the end game for quite a while - on two toons now - and even that becomes unfun after a while.
Come back. :weep:
Quote from: Martinus on August 05, 2011, 01:22:26 PM
Achievements are what hooked me - I now collect pets and stuff. :P
No shit. 50 mounts? Albino drake FTW.
What servers are people on these days? I'm all alone on Lightinghoof.
Come on Uther - Vita Infinita guild (alliance)
Quote from: Rex Francorum on August 06, 2011, 09:00:06 PM
Come on Uther - Vita Infinita guild (alliance)
Fuck that.
I'll come over and gank you.
At least you can group up cross-server now via real-id. I just discovered this neat little fact and am enjoying it.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 07, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
At least you can group up cross-server now via real-id. I just discovered this neat little fact and am enjoying it.
Explain.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 07, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
At least you can group up cross-server now via real-id. I just discovered this neat little fact and am enjoying it.
Explain.
If you and someone you have on your real-id would be able to group up if you were on the same server (levels are close and factions are the same), you can send them a group invite to run dungeons. Perhaps bg's as well. I've only run dungeons with off server people so far.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 06, 2011, 09:36:46 PM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on August 06, 2011, 09:00:06 PM
Come on Uther - Vita Infinita guild (alliance)
Fuck that.
I'll come over and gank you.
Well, I can come and gank with you. I have 2 85's on horde as well. :P
Just made a new character. The following names were all taken: Zimbabwe, Zambia, Malawi, Algeria. :lol:
Was CC's shaman Matriis or is that someone else?
Also, is Martineau a certain Polack we know?
p.s. those of you who aren't on Languish channel should join it just so who I'll know who you are. :P
Is there a Languish vent channel yet? Could be amusing.
CC was Mithridiatis and Mithick. Martineau is not Marcin.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 15, 2011, 01:29:17 AM
Is there a Languish vent channel yet? Could be amusing.
All you would hear is Jaron not using his mic.
:lol:
GOTTA GO LEVEL CYA! *stone*
Anyone know if Beeb still plays? Definitely saw a Forsaken 'lock named Barrister roll through Brill tonight.
I have deleted most of my chars, and just kept a belf paladin named Viserys and a worgen druid named Varamyr. Never played a druid before but they are a lot of fun. Especially considering you can collect herbs (and, presumably, mine) without breaking out of your flight form (herb collecting I can get, but an eagle with a mining pick must be hillarious :P).
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2011, 03:09:15 AM
I have deleted most of my chars, and just kept a belf paladin named Viserys and a worgen druid named Varamyr. Never played a druid before but they are a lot of fun. Especially considering you can collect herbs (and, presumably, mine) without breaking out of your flight form (herb collecting I can get, but an eagle with a mining pick must be hillarious :P).
Going with ASoIaF inspired names, eh? The last two characters I made are Eddara and Roose. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 16, 2011, 03:12:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2011, 03:09:15 AM
I have deleted most of my chars, and just kept a belf paladin named Viserys and a worgen druid named Varamyr. Never played a druid before but they are a lot of fun. Especially considering you can collect herbs (and, presumably, mine) without breaking out of your flight form (herb collecting I can get, but an eagle with a mining pick must be hillarious :P).
Going with ASoIaF inspired names, eh? The last two characters I made are Eddara and Roose. :thumbsup:
Yup. Especially Varamyr fits well for a worgen druid imo (and my paladin has long, platinium blond hair :P).
Here they are:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Viserys/simple
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Varamyr/simple
Viserys hit 85 only recently so he has still shitty gear.
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2011, 03:09:15 AM
(and, presumably, mine) without breaking out of your flight form
Sadly, no.
Ah well. But collecting herbs in the flight form is fun. Even if there is a mob standing nearby, you usually have enough time to swoop in, pick the herb and fly before their hits break you out of your polymorph.
Same goes for collecting various quest items that lie around.
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2011, 03:16:59 AM
Here they are:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Viserys/simple
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Varamyr/simple
Viserys hit 85 only recently so he has still shitty gear.
Nice. What type of server do you play on? RP like my :nerd: self?
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 16, 2011, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2011, 03:16:59 AM
Here they are:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Viserys/simple
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Varamyr/simple
Viserys hit 85 only recently so he has still shitty gear.
Nice. What type of server do you play on? RP like my :nerd: self?
I used to play on a RP server but that turned quickly into cybering in Goldshire. Now I play on a PvP server, but the only reason this one is because a group of people started a GLBT-friendly guild there (the server being called Outland and all :P).
Quote from: Martinus on August 16, 2011, 03:32:42 AM
I used to play on a RP server but that turned quickly into cybering in Goldshire. Now I play on a PvP server, but the only reason this one is because a group of people started a GLBT-friendly guild there (the server being called Outland and all :P).
:lol: Nice. I think random GLBT guilds pop up on my RP server. Shock of shock, they tend toward drama though and don't have long shelf lives.
Well, my old guild split into 3 different splinter guilds. Before the original guild collapsed, it had I think 4 or 5 different guildmasters and sets of officers. :P
Also, lesbians make some of the best tanks.
Any Uther folks jewelcrafters?
Me. What do you need?
I wanted some resil gems which I couldn't find reasonably priced on ah, but ended up settling for green stm/resil gems.
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So I read that WoW is going to allow you to alter the looks of your gear to look like any other set.
I'm tempted to come back just to have all my gear look like the Black Mageweave set on my mage...
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Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2011, 05:08:12 PM
So I read that WoW is going to allow you to alter the looks of your gear to look like any other set.
I'm tempted to come back just to have all my gear look like the Black Mageweave set on my mage...
There are limitations. It is a cool feature though.
Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2011, 05:08:12 PM
I'm tempted to come back just to have all my gear look like the Black Mageweave set on my mage...
I'm telling you, some of that level 70 Lock sets from Burning Crusade are still the baddest of the bunch.
I thought the BC Shammy gear was also the best.
Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2011, 05:08:12 PM
So I read that WoW is going to allow you to alter the looks of your gear to look like any other set.
I'm tempted to come back just to have all my gear look like the Black Mageweave set on my mage...
It's not technically any other gear set - only any other gear set you own. To address the issue of storage, you will also be able to store your unused gear in a special vault which will cost gold to deposit or withdraw stuff with - so would be useful for storing your old gear you then can use to modify the looks of your current gear. I can see the market booming again for cool-looking low level gear crafters. And also you can expect people to start farming old raid instances - can you say Illidan's glaives?
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
can you say Illidan's glaives?
They are legen- wait for it- dary. So not usable from what I've heard.
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2011, 05:08:12 PM
So I read that WoW is going to allow you to alter the looks of your gear to look like any other set.
I'm tempted to come back just to have all my gear look like the Black Mageweave set on my mage...
It's not technically any other gear set - only any other gear set you own. To address the issue of storage, you will also be able to store your unused gear in a special vault which will cost gold to deposit or withdraw stuff with - so would be useful for storing your old gear you then can use to modify the looks of your current gear. I can see the market booming again for cool-looking low level gear crafters. And also you can expect people to start farming old raid instances - can you say Illidan's glaives?
Just wonderful for people who already deleted old gear to make space.
You going to come back soon, CC? :)
I finally found a guild so big, I can't possibly be kicked out. Nobody'll notice me :P
You joined Evolve right? I noticed you. My mage is in that guild, got tired of guild invite spam so I gave in. :(
Wish there was someone else in Languish Guild so I could get invites for my unguilded characters.
Quote from: Jaron on August 29, 2011, 01:14:39 AM
You going to come back soon, CC? :)
No, especially not in the summer months. Too many other fun things to do. Maybe when the weather turns crappy. But if I am able to go skiing again I doubt I will be back at all. Basically as my health continues to improve (knock on wood) I feel less inclined to fill my time playing WoW.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 29, 2011, 06:02:06 AM
You joined Evolve right? I noticed you. My mage is in that guild, got tired of guild invite spam so I gave in. :(
Heh, yeah.
I'd have kept Languish guild, but was tired of being the only person trying to level it. Evolve tripped 20 this weekend, I think.
Does a single person in winning bgs give the guild experience? :hmm: Pretty much the only shot it has at leveling if my rogue(and potentially warlock) are the only semi-active characters.
Ahhh, AV weekend. Right now I am definitely enjoying this game less than I was last Thursday. But hey, I got my paladin leveled up from 83 and with ~2500 resilience. So all that misery was good for something I guess. :unsure:
I love AV. Tons of xp, honor, and rep. Plus the mix of pve and pvp elements is fun in my opinion. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than say.... Eye of the Storm or Warsong Gulch.
Normally, I like AV ok, when it has the aforementioned pvp elements. But after riding through to sit and watch a tower burn, then ride on to the boss 50+ times in one weekend, it kinda wears thin. The matches where turtles happened and we ended up with massive zerg fights between Stonehearth and Stormpike weren't all that fun to heal either, it felt like I was playing whack-a-mole with health bars instead of watching what players were doing.
Eye of the Storm and Warsong Gulch are both lots more fun than AV imo, just not on a fresh 85 in quest greens. :P
I did a bunch of AV battle grounds this weekend, mainly on my paladin healer. I got a lot of honor for badly needed upgrades too. Often fast matches with good honor amounts, but I enjoy the pvp/battling too, so I don't mind when there's an occasional long drawn out match, win or lose.
Got Wrecking Ball on my dk today. :cool: In Strand of all places. Course we lost anyway. :lol:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 29, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
I love AV. Tons of xp, honor, and rep. Plus the mix of pve and pvp elements is fun in my opinion. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than say.... Eye of the Storm or Warsong Gulch.
Yuck, AV. That thing's been broken so many times. Now it's just a straight race. And to think, it could be so much better.
I prefer the pitched battles of control like Eye and the Basin.
Man, talk about finding a gold mine: your own bank.
Mad about 2800g this weekend just selling off lowbie shit in the bank I've had in there for years.
I've been making a killing buying and reselling 77-79 Cata greens.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2011, 05:31:34 AM
Man, talk about finding a gold mine: your own bank.
Mad about 2800g this weekend just selling off lowbie shit in the bank I've had in there for years.
Your guild bank can be even better. :ph34r:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 13, 2011, 05:47:42 AM
I've been making a killing buying and reselling 77-79 Cata greens.
Yeah it's the best gold maker since people who are leveling through WotLK content but can't yet go to the Cata content gobble them up like crazy. And showing up without them in 75-79 battlegrounds is a suicide.
I have all the non-raid valor gear, and I don't feel like PvP or raiding. Now what?
5-man dungeon crawls?
If it wasn't for pvp there's no way in hell I would still be playing this game after 6 years.
Edit- I guess that was the point of your statement about the valor gear, but really why would you bother getting that gear if you didn't enjoy running the dungeons or wanted to raid? :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 13, 2011, 10:33:59 AM
5-man dungeon crawls?
If it wasn't for pvp there's no way in hell I would still be playing this game after 6 years.
Edit- I guess that was the point of your statement about the valor gear, but really why would you bother getting that gear if you didn't enjoy running the dungeons or wanted to raid? :hmm:
I enjoyed doing dungeons when I was getting something for it. I stopped playing Battlefield: BC2 when I had unlocked all the weapons. That's how I work.
To elaborate: I am reaching the end of my WoW playing. I played one period after release, then one period with BC, skipped WotLK and played Cata now. I have played PVE, PVP, I have crafted etc. Been there done that basically. Time for new shit.
Quote from: Berkut on September 13, 2011, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 13, 2011, 10:45:31 AM
. Time for new shit.
http://game.worldoftanks.com/
If I decide to play, is posting in the way too long thread optional? :hmm:
Quote from: Martinus on September 13, 2011, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2011, 05:31:34 AM
Man, talk about finding a gold mine: your own bank.
Mad about 2800g this weekend just selling off lowbie shit in the bank I've had in there for years.
Your guild bank can be even better. :ph34r:
ALready been kicked out of 2 guilds for withdrawals. :P I mean, if nobody ever logged on to ask permission, and I'm authorized to withdrawal, what's the big deal? Hell, one guild I was practically levelling on my own, and a couple of Dreamcloth withdrawals, and that's the thanks I get?
Guild banks are just a con to give the Guild Leader and friends whatever mats drop during raids. "Neither a borrower nor a lender be" is kinda my policy on guild banks. (Not that I'd ever get the chance to take out anything remotely useful anyway).
Seems alliance is back to its losing ways over the past few weeks. Shame since I enjoy my pally a lot more than any of my horde toons.
Whats up?
New WoW Expension & It's set in Pandaria with Pandarens.
Damn it. I don't want to get on warcrack again.
http://www.1up.com/news/wow-annual-pass-diablo-iii-free
QuoteBlizzard co-founder and president Mike Morhaime announced during the BlizzCon opening ceremony just now plans to launch a World of Warcraft Annual Pass. Available now on the WoW website, purchasing an Annual Pass is essentially a commitment to a one-year subscription to WoW that can be billed monthly.
There are several benefits to this, the big one being a free digital copy of Diablo III upon release. This isn't a trial or anything like that; it's the full digital game.
Even if you're not interested in Diablo, there's a reason for WoW fans to get in on the Annual Pass action. Not only will they get a Tyrael's Charger mount, Annual Pass members also get guaranteed access to the next WoW expansion's beta.
Quote from: PRC on October 21, 2011, 02:11:09 PM
http://www.1up.com/news/wow-annual-pass-diablo-iii-free
QuoteBlizzard co-founder and president Mike Morhaime announced during the BlizzCon opening ceremony just now plans to launch a World of Warcraft Annual Pass. Available now on the WoW website, purchasing an Annual Pass is essentially a commitment to a one-year subscription to WoW that can be billed monthly.
There are several benefits to this, the big one being a free digital copy of Diablo III upon release. This isn't a trial or anything like that; it's the full digital game.
Even if you're not interested in Diablo, there's a reason for WoW fans to get in on the Annual Pass action. Not only will they get a Tyrael's Charger mount, Annual Pass members also get guaranteed access to the next WoW expansion's beta.
I smell desperation.
The new zones look nice, the new talent tree is a huge improvement, a fucking panda and the monk class. And a copy of D3. I'll be getting this. :P
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 21, 2011, 01:46:50 PM
New WoW Expension & It's set in Pandaria with Pandarens.
Damn it. I don't want to get on warcrack again.
I KNEW IT. I told my brother this is what the expansion would be. :cool:
A Kung Fu Panda expansion? Seriously?
:lol:
Quote from: Liep on October 21, 2011, 06:49:09 PM
The new zones look nice, the new talent tree is a huge improvement, a fucking panda and the monk class. And a copy of D3. I'll be getting this. :P
What are they doing to the talent trees?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 22, 2011, 08:06:49 AM
Quote from: Liep on October 21, 2011, 06:49:09 PM
The new zones look nice, the new talent tree is a huge improvement, a fucking panda and the monk class. And a copy of D3. I'll be getting this. :P
What are they doing to the talent trees?
Removing them. And instead give three abilities to chose from each 15th level. All damaging, healing increasing talents is given automatically when you chose the spec at level 10.
Ex. http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/october/talents_priest.jpg
Why do they have to change talents so damn much? :bleeding:
I logged in again yesterday after a 4-month hiatus. I took a look at my 353 iLvl Rogue and groaned at the sheer grind to get him up up running to raid-worthiness.
Well, if it means fewer abilities(like apparently psychic scream is gonna be a talent from the link) that's a good thing. 20 keybinds should be enough for anyone to pvp effectively.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 22, 2011, 07:44:41 PM
Well, if it means fewer abilities(like apparently psychic scream is gonna be a talent from the link) that's a good thing. 20 keybinds should be enough for anyone to pvp effectively.
You still get a fear/snare, but you have to chose the one out of tree that suits your playstyle.
Monk ability preview:
QuoteSpinning Crane Kick
Instant, 2 Lights and Dark Forces
Requires Stance of the Drunken Ox, Stance of the Fierce Tiger.
You spin while kicking in the air, dealing 23 damage every 1 second to all nearby enemies within 8 yards. Movement speed is reduced by 30%, last 6 seconds.
I hope that Void Shift ability doesn't stick around. There's already enough ways to grief teammates.
Quote from: Caliga on October 22, 2011, 09:15:49 AM
Why do they have to change talents so damn much? :bleeding:
Because they hate it since day 1.
I'm very excited about the talent changes. Talent trees are gone. Woohoo.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 22, 2011, 07:44:41 PM
Well, if it means fewer abilities(like apparently psychic scream is gonna be a talent from the link) that's a good thing. 20 keybinds should be enough for anyone to pvp effectively.
Yeah. Plus it means the filler talents are gone too. I hated that for example on my lock I couldnt choose Curse of Exhaustion because I had to choose some boring +3% to crit talent instead to max out my dps.
Hey CDM if you're still around, got my druid to 85 and full vicious gear if you want to run lock/feral arenas.
Quote from: Martinus on October 25, 2011, 05:29:11 AM
I'm very excited about the talent changes. Talent trees are gone. Woohoo.
Yeah, great. Now everybody can be exactly the same. And Kung Fu Pandas too.
I think we are seeing the beginning of the end for WoW I
CC, everyone is already the same anyway.
I don't see how this will make players more the same. Now all you do is go to elitist jerk's forum and find the best talents, in MoP you have the optimal talents build into the spec and 18 abilities to choose from.
And there will be Kung Fu Trolls too.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 25, 2011, 11:30:45 AM
Yeah, great. Now everybody can be exactly the same.
Eh, sounds like there will be more variation rather than less.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 25, 2011, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 25, 2011, 11:30:45 AM
Yeah, great. Now everybody can be exactly the same.
Eh, sounds like there will be more variation rather than less.
How so?
Because right now there's basically 3 ways to spec each class. From the looks of it, next expansion there will be disc priests with roots or chain fearing pets instead of psychic scream, as well as several other choices later down the road. There's still going to be a distinction between "discipline" "holy" and "shadow".
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 25, 2011, 01:36:52 PM
Because right now there's basically 3 ways to spec each class. From the looks of it, next expansion there will be disc priests with roots or chain fearing pets instead of psychic scream, as well as several other choices later down the road. There's still going to be a distinction between "discipline" "holy" and "shadow".
What are you describing is that the main game play is going to be the same for everyone. The flavour skills may differ but the only real difference is going to be gear. Staying with the disc priest for a moment the main choice in the current version was whether to use the attack skills to heal (forget what it was called) or ignore that option and go with the straight heals. There was a lot of debate on elitist jerks about which one to choose. Now it looks like such choices, as restricted as they were compared to the old skill trees, will be gone.
Well, I know jack about raid healing so I'll put aside the priest for right now and consider the mage instead. All arcane mages have the same rotation, all fire mages have the same rotation, all frost mages have the same rotation. Fiddling around with the handful of "optional" talent points doesn't alter the way they pve.
PvP builds have slightly more variety, for instance an arcane mage might choose between going into frost for a root for cone of cold vs going into fire for impact/blazing speed. But they'll of course have all the goodies from the arcane tree. These kind of abilities affect the feel of the class in a way that 3% increased crit simply can't. And now you'll have to make a lot more choices about which ones you take.
You guys are wrong. The specs are NOT gone. They are just divorced from the talents but you still choose different specs (with special, unique abilities and mastery) the way you do now. You just don't have a choice of abilities once you go into a spec - you get them like you get spells now, and they are like the current spec-start abilities plus the "must have" talents (e.g. you go Frost spec as a mage, you get abilities like +crit to frost spells and whatnot).
This gives more diversity, imo, than the current system when you are locked into a talent tree based on the choice of a spec.
Also, it seems there will be four specs, not three.
Essentially what the system does is you are not forced to forego the unique talent "perks" (the ones that stay as talents now) because you get the "plus to damage/crit" etc. "talents" as abilities based on your spec now.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 25, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
What are you describing is that the main game play is going to be the same for everyone. The flavour skills may differ but the only real difference is going to be gear. Staying with the disc priest for a moment the main choice in the current version was whether to use the attack skills to heal (forget what it was called) or ignore that option and go with the straight heals. There was a lot of debate on elitist jerks about which one to choose. Now it looks like such choices, as restricted as they were compared to the old skill trees, will be gone.
Archangel is still an option in the priest talent trees. But now Holy can access it too. And you have to choose whether you want that or a proc of insta flash heal or a giant ball of holy light, ie aoe healing.
Quote from: Liep on October 25, 2011, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 25, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
What are you describing is that the main game play is going to be the same for everyone. The flavour skills may differ but the only real difference is going to be gear. Staying with the disc priest for a moment the main choice in the current version was whether to use the attack skills to heal (forget what it was called) or ignore that option and go with the straight heals. There was a lot of debate on elitist jerks about which one to choose. Now it looks like such choices, as restricted as they were compared to the old skill trees, will be gone.
Archangel is still an option in the priest talent trees. But now Holy can access it too. And you have to choose whether you want that or a proc of insta flash heal or a giant ball of holy light, ie aoe healing.
I see, so its more like picking a few optional spells rather than choosing how strong they would be be developing those talents within a spcific spec.
And of course, my guess is Blizzard wants all 6 choices to be hard and all 18 abilities to be attractive. That's likely not going to happen, but I do believe it'll be more exciting than having a few leftover points after you've placed the cookie cutter.
I think the point is that, while there will always be better and worse choices, you will have greater freedom in making some sub-optimal choices that will not cripple your character completely, however.
For example, right now, Destruction build for a lock is so much worse than Affliction or even Demonology that you would get kicked from a raid if you show up full Destro. So if there was some utility/perk style talent from the Destruction tree that you really liked, you would have to either cripple yourself or forget about it. Now you will be able to choose it without as much overall consequence for your viability.
Essentially, talents will work a bit like Glyphs do now - and people do indeed have choices there, with even elitist jerks listing more than 3 viable glyphs of any tier for a specific build, depending on your playstyle/preference.
Here's a very thorough post on the new talent/spec system.
http://eu.battle.net/blizzcon/en/blog/3167724/World_of_Warcraft_Class_Talent_System_-21_10_2011#blog
As you can see, specs are still in the game, you just learn the "must have" spec "talents" as automatic abilities. I think this is sensible since it removes the false choices and leaves the real ones (in the form of talents, and the overall choice of specs).
Quote from: Martinus on October 26, 2011, 05:51:00 AM
As you can see, specs are still in the game, you just learn the "must have" spec "talents" as automatic abilities. I think this is sensible since it removes the false choices and leaves the real ones (in the form of talents, and the overall choice of specs).
Isn't that what they said they were doing the last time they revamped talents?
Quote from: Barrister on October 26, 2011, 08:28:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 26, 2011, 05:51:00 AM
As you can see, specs are still in the game, you just learn the "must have" spec "talents" as automatic abilities. I think this is sensible since it removes the false choices and leaves the real ones (in the form of talents, and the overall choice of specs).
Isn't that what they said they were doing the last time they revamped talents?
Yeah but now they are showing how they are going to do it, so it is more hopeful.
Anyway, I bought the yearly pass so will be in the beta, so will keep you guys posted. :P
Does this yearly pass have to be 12 months consecutive?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 26, 2011, 11:53:32 AM
Does this yearly pass have to be 12 months consecutive?
Yup. But it is not an up front payment. More like a year-long montly payment plan. For me it doesn't make much difference, since even when I get bored with WoW, I don't normally cancel my subscription, so it's a win-win.
Plus, since I was going to get Diablo 3 anyway and would pay $25 or so for the mount too if they were selling it in the store, it's almost free for me.
I have to admit that I was stoked for TBC, hyped over Lich King, and intrigued enough to buy Cataclysm, but Pandaria just leaves me cold. Monks, Pandas, yet another talent revamp - yawn. Just no real pull.
I miss TBC & the time to play WoW for 12-16h a day.
:(
Well, as my favorite class in EQ was the monk and in DAoC was the friar, I'm looking forward to playing a monk in WoW.
Quote from: Liep on October 25, 2011, 07:14:40 PM
And of course, my guess is Blizzard wants all 6 choices to be hard and all 18 abilities to be attractive. That's likely not going to happen, but I do believe it'll be more exciting than having a few leftover points after you've placed the cookie cutter.
Meh, they said it was going to be like glyphs. If so the choices are going to be pretty straight forward.
I am with BB on this. Completely uninterested this time round.
Quote from: Barrister on October 26, 2011, 11:56:47 AM
I have to admit that I was stoked for TBC, hyped over Lich King, and intrigued enough to buy Cataclysm, but Pandaria just leaves me cold. Monks, Pandas, yet another talent revamp - yawn. Just no real pull.
Mostly agree. I would rank the expansions in this order in terms of interest:
1. Lich King
2. BC
3. Cataclysm
4. Mists
The game's just getting old. Cata dungeons are more accessible than BC, more engaging than LK, yet I haven't run any in several months. Just not that interested anymore.
Well, I got back in due to the year pass/Diablo III deal.
You playing on any of the Languish servers?
Anyone know how long this annual pass will be available? I don't want to resume playing just yet, but I could in a month or so.
I have been leveling my druid recently. I went from 80 to 84 and never got attacked by an ally once. Yawn. The new expansion looks like shit because pandas are lame as hell and another talent revamp is stupid. Stop min max'ing the fucking game to death. WoW needs NEW exciting content and new ideas. Battlegrounds in their day -- awesome. Arenas in their day -- awesome. Flying, vehicles, and Wintergrasp -- awesome. Cata blew chunks, and the new expansion doesn't excite me either. I am buying Skyrim today and if it is good, WoW sub is getting cancelled again.
And another thing -- these 5 level expansions are complete and utter bullshit clearly designed to milk the player base. Rip -- off.
Quote from: Lndhand on November 11, 2011, 03:09:48 PM
And another thing -- these 5 level expansions are complete and utter bullshit clearly designed to milk the player base. Rip -- off.
Eh, I suspect most people are even more tired of leveling than of "end-game". Forcing more of it won't improve the experience. Neither would neglecting to do any expansions at all.
Had a good experience with the Looking for Raid tool, first time I used it I got a group in 5 seconds, and we went in and killed a boss in the first go. Everyone went for the right add and it was fairly easy.
2nd boss, first round no one really knew what to do, somewhat quick wipe. But the second time everyone figured out the running clockwise part and it was a kill.
Overall it seemed the damageload was easy enough for the healers, and the mechanics were simple enough for the dps. Maybe I was just lucky though. :P
I managed to log in for a couple hours today. Got into the first of the new dungeons. It was disappointingly easy. And that first run the dragon dropped the trinket, so now nothing in those dungeons is a step up for my rogue (only thing below 378 is the other trinket). Guess I'll focus on my priest (lvl 83 now) and the LFR thing ...
The new Darkmoon Faire has some fun mini-games. Liked the whack-a-gnoll in particular.
Interesting.
My main Lock on Lightinghoof's entire bank account of roughly 15,000g and his items are all wiped out. Only thing left was the black shirt he was wearing :lol:
None of my other alts were touched on LH or any other server.
Anybody have any experience with this sort of thing?
Sheldon Cooper. :P
Also a friend of mine. A GM got all his stuff back after his account was hacked.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 25, 2011, 03:25:34 PM
Interesting.
My main Lock on Lightinghoof's entire bank account of roughly 15,000g and his items are all wiped out. Only thing left was the black shirt he was wearing :lol:
None of my other alts were touched on LH or any other server.
Anybody have any experience with this sort of thing?
Got hacked last year. Actually caught the hacker in the attempt. Sucked initially, but Blizzard's customer support staff was great and I got back all my stuff, plus all the additional stuff the kekeke kid farmed in dungeons when he was on my account. :)
Well, it was the only toon; granted, he was the highest and was summarily cleaned out (guess he wasn't worth farming with :lol:, but the only thing I can think of that compromised the account was the Armory app I have on my iTouch; that's not encrypted or firewalled like my PC was.
Then again, who knows: it's only happened in the last month, so I'll start the process with Blizz and see what happens.
I'm dumping WoW. Even with authentication, Battle.net can't maintain the security of my account.
My main character's account wasn't just hacked this time; apparently this time, I pissed off whoever did it enough that he/she/they deleted him.
RIP Kallius. :(
You can ask a GM to restore a deleted character. I had this done a number of times when I wanted a character whom I deleted back.
Plus, I'm really surprised you are constantly being hacked. It never happened to me - I use iPhone authenticator. Plus, you can now report being hacked and you get your items back after a couple of days of the GMs conducting an "investigation".
Yeah, they just did it in a matter of a couple hours.
I don't know if the problem's with me, or with Battle.net.
So.. more Mists of Pandaria news. I'm probably going to pick it up, if only to try the monk class which seem rather fun.
www.wowheadnews.com for info.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.mmo-champion.com%2Fimages%2Fnews%2F2012%2Fmarch%2Fmop_map.jpg&hash=ca67dc4c234b1d166adb8c86d3b91863edbaf068)
Touch of Death
4 Chi
Melee Range
Instant
1.5 min cooldown
Requires Ox Stance, Tiger Stance
You exploit the enemy target's weakest point, instantly killing the target.
Only usable on non-player targets who have equal or less health than you.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 08, 2012, 02:51:15 AM
I'm dumping WoW. Even with authentication, Battle.net can't maintain the security of my account.
My main character's account wasn't just hacked this time; apparently this time, I pissed off whoever did it enough that he/she/they deleted him.
RIP Kallius. :(
AH! I haven't played in 2 years and I get *daily* fishing emails informing me my account is at risk blah blah blah... I suppose that means they haven't cracked it yet. They're welcome to it if they manage to get in. *shrug*
G.
Well, I still have my accounts. Blizz was pretty quick in saving them.
Quote from: Liep on March 19, 2012, 05:49:23 AM
So.. more Mists of Pandaria news. I'm probably going to pick it up, if only to try the monk class which seem rather fun.
Meh, i probably will, too--if only for the lowbie- and mid-level quests.
Fucking Pandas, though? Obviously more Sino-cocksucking. How many shark fins and tiger penises are players going to have to grind for?
Best improvements I see from the list:
QuoteA new faction lets player have their own farms in-game. They will be able to manage livestock and more all the while gaining reputation. Other factions will offer other activities, from raising a serpent to become your mount to defending outposts for dailies.
[/quote]The valor point system will be entirely revamped. Players will augment their gear and upgrade levels using them.[/quote]
I wanna cat farm. I wanna raise kittens and cats, like the crazy cat lady outside Goldshire. Squee. Mew.
Anyone else monkeying about with the beta? Got my invite a few days ago and am downloading the client now.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 02, 2012, 12:23:22 AM
Anyone else monkeying about with the beta? Got my invite a few days ago and am downloading the client now.
Yeah, killed a few monkeys on my monk, but the place was swarmed with thousands and thousands of pandas so I gave up. :P
QuoteA new faction lets player have their own farms in-game. They will be able to manage livestock and more all the while gaining reputation. Other factions will offer other activities, from raising a serpent to become your mount to defending outposts for dailies.
Is *raising a serpent* an euphemism?
Quote from: Martinus on April 02, 2012, 07:13:45 AM
QuoteA new faction lets player have their own farms in-game. They will be able to manage livestock and more all the while gaining reputation. Other factions will offer other activities, from raising a serpent to become your mount to defending outposts for dailies.
Is *raising a serpent* an euphemism?
Dance of the Three Snakes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRM2tb4zav0)
I am thoroughly enjoying playing a pandaren. :nerd:
Sickeningly, there are already lots of people that are level 90. GET A LIFE, DORKS.
I'm halfway to 86! I quite like Pandaria so far.
What's the average time to get to the level cap these days? 0-90 in like 2 or 3 days sounds crazy...
I'm stuck at 85. :(
Wait you can play Pandas? Are they Horde or Alliance and who is the other new race? :hmm:
Quote from: Valmy on September 28, 2012, 02:38:54 PM
Wait you can play Pandas? Are they Horde or Alliance and who is the other new race? :hmm:
They are neither by default, you get to pick.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 28, 2012, 02:57:05 PM
They are neither by default, you get to pick.
Lame. But then the new race are Panda people who live in Pandaria. That is so lame it sounds like a Saturday Morning Kids cartoon.
Well, you're an American who lives in America. /shrug
Anyway, most of the place names in WoW sound either lame, pretend, or both.
Quote from: Valmy on September 28, 2012, 03:01:45 PM
Lame. But then the new race are Panda people who live in Pandaria. That is so lame it sounds like a Saturday Morning Kids cartoon.
Trust me, it's not as lame as it sounds.
You fuckers are going to make me download it, aren't you?
I don't even want to roll a Panda. I've fucking Demon Seed all the newbie Pandas in Panda Start-Up Land. Drop a fucking Infernal on their cuddly asses.
I played this game for 7 years. I was excited for blood elves in the Burning Crusade. I was excited for the Arthas lore in the Wrath of the Lich King. I couldn't wait to see the land wrecked by the Cataclysm and the flying mounts in Azeroth. Yet when I look at MoP I feel nothing. Absolutely nothing. Not even an inkling to buy and play this. :huh:
That's weird. So far I like this expansion a lot more than Cataclysm. As of right now here's how I would rank the expansions:
1. Lich King
2. Pandaria
3. Cataclysm
4. Burning Crusade
I'm not attracted to pandas. Sorry.
It's too early to judge whether this expansion is good or not. I have only seen two 'nomal' dungeons so far and my Monk is not even level 10. I haven't tried Pet Battles or PvP.
I do like the revamped talent system, even though a lot of tuning is still needed.
They always screw with the talents; I think it's to trick you into thinking it's a new game while not spending the resources to develop one.
I am: weak. :ph34r:
I'm quite enjoying my new panda warrior so far. I've spent a while just running around the starter area admiring the scenery.
Quote from: Barrister on September 30, 2012, 11:51:02 PM
I am: weak. :ph34r:
Bastards are going to make me fucking download it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 30, 2012, 11:51:02 PM
I am: weak. :ph34r:
Bastards are going to make me fucking download it.
Doo eet. You know you're gonna end up doing it, why wait? Especially if you have some extra time on your hands.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 01, 2012, 12:04:50 AM
I'm quite enjoying my new panda warrior so far. I've spent a while just running around the starter area admiring the scenery.
Credit where credit is due. The art team has done a great job there. The dragons look fantastic as well.
I have played all the expansions up to this. I didnt have any interest in the Panda and now with Guild Wars 2 I have even less interest.
I wonder whether there are enough people like me to impact their sales.
You guys aren't talking about the most important new feature, I mean, game.
Pokemon in WoW!
Accound wide pets!
Win!
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 11:56:09 AM
You guys aren't talking about the most important new feature, I mean, game.
Pokemon in WoW!
Yeah, I'm not sure what I think of that. :hmm:
It's pokemon in WoW. From what I've seen it looks fucking fantastic but then again, I own Pokemon games.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 01, 2012, 11:49:07 AM
I have played all the expansions up to this. I didnt have any interest in the Panda and now with Guild Wars 2 I have even less interest.
I wonder whether there are enough people like me to impact their sales.
Judging by Xfire, Guild Wars 2 has dropped about 60% from its peak soon after the official release date. MoP has been hanging around well below GW2's best day, but we'll see how it is in a few weeks. It doesn't look like GW2 lost that much from people going back to WoW (no big spike down on MoP's release day) and its still above what WoW was at before MoP.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 12:07:32 PM
but then again, I own Pokemon games.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 12:07:32 PM
but then again, I own Pokemon games.
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:huh: You forget my age. Pokemon came out while I was a kid. It's like transformers to you.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
It's like transformers to you.
2nd fail, you're off by over ten years. Try Speed Racer, Ultraman, HR Puf'n'Stuf and the Banana Splits.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 11:56:09 AM
You guys aren't talking about the most important new feature, I mean, game.
Pokemon in WoW!
Accound wide pets!
Win!
Gotta catch them all?
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 12:07:32 PM
but then again, I own Pokemon games.
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:huh: You forget my age. Pokemon came out while I was a kid. It's like transformers to you.
How old are you?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
It's like transformers to you.
2nd fail, you're off by over ten years. Try Speed Racer, Ultraman, HR Puf'n'Stuf and the Banana Splits.
Man, you're almost 50!
@Raz, 28.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
It's like transformers to you.
2nd fail, you're off by over ten years. Try Speed Racer, Ultraman, HR Puf'n'Stuf and the Banana Splits.
Man, you're almost 50!
@Raz, 28.
And you are a 28 year old that like Pokeman - my kids outgrew that stuff before reaching their teens.
Where is the boat (or whatever) to get to Pandaria anyways?
For the horde, it's a new airship over Org.
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 01, 2012, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
It's like transformers to you.
2nd fail, you're off by over ten years. Try Speed Racer, Ultraman, HR Puf'n'Stuf and the Banana Splits.
Man, you're almost 50!
@Raz, 28.
And you are a 28 year old that like Pokeman - my kids outgrew that stuff before reaching their teens.
Your kids aren't nerds tho, I am.
No idea Beeb. I haven't touched my Lvl 85 once. Just been playing monk.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 05:31:44 PM
Your kids aren't nerds tho, I am.
Nerds can sometimes appreciate kid stuff, just as non-nerdy kids can sometimes appreciate nerd stuff, but Pokemon is pretty clearly kid stuff.
Quote from: katmai on October 01, 2012, 05:33:16 PM
I haven't touched my Lvl 85 once.
Shouldn't there be an 's' in there? :huh:
Onces? :huh:
multiple level 85s
Quote from: Barrister on October 01, 2012, 04:12:19 PM
Where is the boat (or whatever) to get to Pandaria anyways?
Once you get the xpac a quest opens up that shows you the way.
Someday I'll learn to just stop partaking in bg's. :bleeding:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on October 01, 2012, 10:18:26 PM
Someday I'll learn to just stop partaking in bg's. :bleeding:
That's all I do.
Bah - because I just suddenly stopped playing over a year ago, my character is a mess. I have to re-learn all the pally spells and rotations, my bags are full of what I assume is crap - but I can't remember what most of it is for. And my professions are not levelled enough to be able to do anything in Pandaria.
professions might be priority #1 - any idea how I can power level from from the mid 400s up to 550 or so?
Quote from: Barrister on October 02, 2012, 10:59:44 AM
Bah - because I just suddenly stopped playing over a year ago, my character is a mess. I have to re-learn all the pally spells and rotations, my bags are full of what I assume is crap - but I can't remember what most of it is for. And my professions are not levelled enough to be able to do anything in Pandaria.
professions might be priority #1 - any idea how I can power level from from the mid 400s up to 550 or so?
Mine must be a mess too. I logged out 5mins after turning 85 & never came back.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 02, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 02, 2012, 10:59:44 AM
Bah - because I just suddenly stopped playing over a year ago, my character is a mess. I have to re-learn all the pally spells and rotations, my bags are full of what I assume is crap - but I can't remember what most of it is for. And my professions are not levelled enough to be able to do anything in Pandaria.
professions might be priority #1 - any idea how I can power level from from the mid 400s up to 550 or so?
Mine must be a mess too. I logged out 5mins after turning 85 & never came back.
I know when I logged out I was 83 or 84, but a ways from dinging 85.
But when I logged in again, it had my 1xp short of 85. I was in Stormwind so I did a quick daily and ding!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
It's like transformers to you.
2nd fail, you're off by over ten years. Try Speed Racer, Ultraman, HR Puf'n'Stuf and the Banana Splits.
Never saw the other shows but we used to get reruns of the Banana Splits - awesome show :thumbsup:
I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and run through some quests in Twilight Highlands. Not that I should complain - it's brand new content as far as I'm concerned.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 02, 2012, 12:28:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 01, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
It's like transformers to you.
2nd fail, you're off by over ten years. Try Speed Racer, Ultraman, HR Puf'n'Stuf and the Banana Splits.
Never saw the other shows but we used to get reruns of the Banana Splits - awesome show :thumbsup:
Puf n Stuf, Banana Splits and Speed Racer were my must see shows as a kid.
Quote from: Barrister on October 02, 2012, 10:59:44 AM
professions might be priority #1 - any idea how I can power level from from the mid 400s up to 550 or so?
http://www.wow-professions.com/profession-leveling-guides
And I would guess that the stockpiled materials from Cataclysm are cheap right now.
Quote from: Liep on October 03, 2012, 02:44:37 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 02, 2012, 10:59:44 AM
professions might be priority #1 - any idea how I can power level from from the mid 400s up to 550 or so?
http://www.wow-professions.com/profession-leveling-guides
And I would guess that the stockpiled materials from Cataclysm are cheap right now.
Actually I would guess the opposite - in Cataclysm, the pre-Cata mats were much more expensive than the Cata ones. It's both the issue of supply (less people now farm these areas) and the fact that now everyone wants to get to MoP crafting so they are willing to pay more to get there.
Are there new professions in PandaLand?
I don't think so.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 03, 2012, 07:58:11 AM
Are there new professions in PandaLand?
Farming. Although it might be more of a gimmick than a profession, I'm still only closing in on 86 so haven't tried it yet.
Quote from: Liep on October 03, 2012, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 03, 2012, 07:58:11 AM
Are there new professions in PandaLand?
Farming. Although it might be more of a gimmick than a profession, I'm still only closing in on 86 so haven't tried it yet.
Not a formal profession. Doing quick research sounds like it is a series of daily quests involving farming.
:lol: WoW enters real world politics. Stay classy Republicans!
http://kotaku.com/5948987/maine-democrat-is-supposedly-unfit-for-office-because-she-loves-poisoning-and-stabbing-in-world-of-warcraft
Damn you - I came here to post that! :mad:
Is the xpac worth a crap? I quit SWTOR after they repeatedly nerfed my two mains and upon discovering that the end game is meh. So, I've been gameless for a while now. :)
Quote from: Lndhand on October 05, 2012, 08:08:26 AM
Is the xpac worth a crap? I quit SWTOR after they repeatedly nerfed my two mains and upon discovering that the end game is meh. So, I've been gameless for a while now. :)
Get Guild Wars 2 instead.
Quote from: Lndhand on October 05, 2012, 08:08:26 AM
Is the xpac worth a crap? I quit SWTOR after they repeatedly nerfed my two mains and upon discovering that the end game is meh. So, I've been gameless for a while now. :)
It's new content for WoW. It's just like every other xpac. It's drawn me back, for what its worth.
So far I like it better than Cataclysm, FWIW.
Oh...
My...
GOD someone destroyed WoW
Jaron finally got his hands on WotLK?
No there is someone hacking the servers
Azeroth as recreated in Minecraft:
http://imgur.com/a/Vco1k#0
Is there an actual game involved in Minecraft, just seems like a design tool from all I've seen.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 09, 2012, 08:20:08 AM
Is there an actual game involved in Minecraft, just seems like a design tool from all I've seen.
Yeah, but all it is is 8-bit masturbatory nostalgia. It's pretty stupid.
"Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic." Yes I want just to reply. ;)
So, anyone is still playing that. Where are you all on Uther? I am still playing there but on horde (looks like Languishites deserted Uther and Alliance's Vita Infinita).
Demetrialos from P'dox is still in Vita and apparently I am too since even though Blizzard said were cancelling my account back in April it was billed in June and I logged in to see what was happening.
But for me I'm all WoW'd out, GW2 doesn't keep my interest, just been having fun with Star Trek Online.
I'm still playing, if you can call it that. Most days I just do a couple pet battles before logging out.
I forgot to cancel my subscription and it's running til December, so I'm considering trying to get back into it so as to not waste money. :P
I still play regularly on Wyrmrest Accord.
I'm thinking about having another go at WoW. Who is still playing? How is the game aging? Some of the things I have read recently have me hesitant to try again
I checked my old guild site on Uther. Looks like they havent been active since February.
That said I cant see myself dedicating 4 hours or more to a raid at this age and stage. Maybe when the kids leave or I retire or something. But by that time it wont be WoW.
It's gotten too cluttered IMO.
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 25, 2013, 07:22:18 PM
I checked my old guild site on Uther. Looks like they havent been active since February.
That said I cant see myself dedicating 4 hours or more to a raid at this age and stage. Maybe when the kids leave or I retire or something. But by that time it wont be WoW.
yeah has been quiet there, but guess they are doing 10mans with the newest patch.
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2013, 08:06:48 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 25, 2013, 07:22:18 PM
I checked my old guild site on Uther. Looks like they havent been active since February.
That said I cant see myself dedicating 4 hours or more to a raid at this age and stage. Maybe when the kids leave or I retire or something. But by that time it wont be WoW.
yeah has been quiet there, but guess they are doing 10mans with the newest patch.
Are you playing at all?
I logged in yesterday for first time in months. The whole LFR system has kinda turned me off to raiding.
Checking out rift as size able group playing there and enjoying it.
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2013, 08:17:38 PM
I logged in yesterday for first time in months. The whole LFR system has kinda turned me off to raiding.
Checking out rift as size able group playing there and enjoying it.
How are you handling the million of classes available?
Considering I just dld it last night, been easy so far. :P
eheh. I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices, hard to pick 1.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 25, 2013, 08:36:33 PM
eheh. I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices, hard to pick 1.
well I had link from rift forums that was posted on CC and I's old guild that tries to equate the classes to WoW specs just to help folks make up mind.
Quote from: katmai on September 25, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 25, 2013, 08:36:33 PM
eheh. I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices, hard to pick 1.
well I had link from rift forums that was posted on CC and I's old guild that tries to equate the classes to WoW specs just to help folks make up mind.
Share?
I've been playing Tera, they gave lvl 58 chars for free this weekend. Too many damn skills + the need to constantly move is damn hard to play.
Soon as home. Posting from my iphone atm. :D
:cheers:
GW2's going to have a free week from the 27th to the 3rd too.
QuoteFound this on the RIFT forums, thought it might be nice for anyone switching from World of Warcraft wanting something similar to the class they are used to.
CLERIC
purifier = disc priest
sentinel = holy paladin / holy priest
warden = resto druid / resto shaman
justicar = prot paladin
inquisitor = shadow priest
cabalist = affl lock / unholy dk
druid = d2 summoning druid
shaman = enh shaman
ROGUE
riftstalker = classic feral tank / sub rogue
ranger = beast mastery hunter
marksman = marksman hunter
saboteur = survival hunter
assassin = sub rogue
nightblade = assassination rogue
bladedancer = combat rogue
bard = [buff/aoe heal support]
tactician = has a frigging flamethrower
MAGE
dominator = CC support / arcane mage (GW mesmer?)
archon = [buff support]
ele summoner = ele shaman / frost mage
necromancer = demo lock / unholy dk
pyromancer = fire mage / destro lock
stormcaller = frost mage / ele shaman
chloromancer = [heal]
warlock = affliction lock
WARRIOR
reaver = blood dk
paladin = prot paladin / prot warrior
warlord = [buff support & tank]
champion = arms warrior
void knight = unholy dk
beast master =
paragon = fury warrior
riftblade =
I tried Rift a while back and had a lot of fun with it. I really liked the skill development model. There are a lot of skills but the main mechanic in that game is developing the proper macros. At first I found that to be a pain since a little coding knowledge was required but I found a lot of forum support for how to properly write the macro commands.
The only thing I didnt like was after leaving the beginning areas it was hard to find others to play with and the world felt empty. That might not be the case now though.
5th expansion announced today. Happy to say 0.01% that I'll buy it. :P
Quote from: katmai on November 08, 2013, 06:31:02 PM
5th expansion announced today. Happy to say 0.01% that I'll buy it. :P
Wow, that announcement video was the worst I've seen from Blizzard to date.
Quote from: katmai on November 08, 2013, 06:31:02 PM
5th expansion announced today. Happy to say 0.01% that I'll buy it. :P
So there IS a chance! :lol:
I won't say never cause i had said that with MoP :P
Zowie Bowie to direct the Warcraft movie. It might actually turn out good. :unsure:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/06/24/world-of-warcraft-level-90-neutral/
QuoteWorld Of Warcraft Player Reaches 90 Without Picking A Side
In case you'd forgotten, MMO players are crazy. I know: I used to be one. This, though, is a whole new level of dedication to a mind-numbingly repetitive task. A World of Warcraft player named "Doubleagent" (get it?) rolled a Pandaren character and never left the neutral starting zone. Somehow, though, they found a way to hit WoW's current level cap of 90. And by somehow, I mean they picked a lot of herbs and mined Azeroth hollow. This is not a task congruent with keeping one's sanity, but when somebody voluntarily sets out to do this, it makes you wonder if they were ever truly sane to begin with.
Now, quests got the character up to around level ten or so, but after that experience from enemies dried up, and herbs/ore were the only teets Doubleagent could reliably suckle precious, precious XP from.
In actuality, Doubleagent didn't find the process quite as boring as you might think. Despite the fact that it took 173.5 days' worth of playtime (dating all the way back to 2012), they found the process rather soothing:
Quote"At times I can find it relaxing, a change from the normal. Plus it's pretty easy to do when I have TV shows or movies that I need to catch up on, moreso than trying to do that during a battleground or raid."
Which... actually makes a lot of sense. I mean, why not? To each their own, and say what you will but this sort of thing takes tremendous dedication.
Plus, now when somebody asks the age old question – Alliance or Horde – there's a fully viable third option to bellow (because the only time anybody asks that anymore is at BlizzCon): NEITHER.
:hmm: Does anyone here still play?
I was playing like 3-4 months ago.
Katmai still plays pretty fanatically also.
Uh what?
Katmai will be playing until they take the servers down for good.
Quote from: Caliga on June 24, 2014, 07:13:05 AM
:hmm: Does anyone here still play?
I play regularly. :)
Anything new and interesting since MoP launch?
Warlords Alpha?
Joking aside, MoP was a good expansion. Not the most epic story however (but it had some good moments like Kael'thas involvement).
Once I cleared Siege raid on flex difficulty, I got no interest to continue. I got fed up of the Timeless Isle as well. My 6 months subscription ended up almost a week ago. I will probably wait until Warlords launch of a bit after to re-sub.
I still have yet to go through the majority of MoP content. I generally run about an expansion behind, as I have an alt problem. I did get invited into the Warlords of Draenor Beta tonight, so I'll probably be monkeying around with that, further limiting my MoP content exploration. I have enjoyed what I've seen of it though. I'm also hoping to run the Siege of Orgrimmar raid a few times before Warlord's launch to nab some of the goodies. The Dark Shaman transmog set in particular looks amazing in my opinion.
Quote from: Rex Francorum on June 26, 2014, 11:41:23 PM
Once I cleared Siege raid on flex difficulty, I got no interest to continue. I got fed up of the Timeless Isle as well. My 6 months subscription ended up almost a week ago. I will probably wait until Warlords launch of a bit after to re-sub.
Dang for a second I thought you said you went raiding with Siege.
Anyway glad to still see you around Rex :hug:
I re subbed about 3 months ago, played for 2 months and got bored again.
PAC!
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2014, 08:31:23 AM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on June 26, 2014, 11:41:23 PM
Once I cleared Siege raid on flex difficulty, I got no interest to continue. I got fed up of the Timeless Isle as well. My 6 months subscription ended up almost a week ago. I will probably wait until Warlords launch of a bit after to re-sub.
Dang for a second I thought you said you went raiding with Siege.
Anyway glad to still see you around Rex :hug:
Hey Valmy. :hug: :frog:
And Queequeg runs down to buy WoW.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.mmo-champion.com%2Fimages%2Fnews%2F2014%2Fjuly%2FmoltenCorgi.jpg&hash=4aa0e0f42759fc234eab8a2cbdce93a96c6a3a40)
*Cough*
Warlords of Draenor went live.
*Cough*
Every now and then I return to SWTOR when I feel like a bit of lightsabering. And Star Trek Online, though I reliably only mess with my crew's uniforms a bit (they have a new "futuristic" one that looks so much better and in line with the shows and movies than the original "Future leather/latex Trek" the game launched with), run three missions and then log off again.
I recently had a stint in Champions Online again which was ok. I have a lifetime sub for LotRO, but I never made it beyond Weather Top. Age of Conan was pretty decent after its updates, and I love the world and lore. EVE was interesting but is too much of a time sink, more so than other MMOs. I guess I could check how the Star Wars Galaxies Emu is coming along. And I've not checked into Guild Wars 2 in a long time.
My point being, I like the concept of MMOs (big world to explore with lots of stuff to do), but I like to solo a lot (because my game time is limited), and I usually hit a point where the grind becomes too much and I lose interest. SWTOR and STO are much more solo friendly (if SWTOR had a single player offline mode, it would likely be one of my most played games).
As to WoW, that breaking point was for me around level 40 with my warrior and priest (in the dim past of pre-expansion times), and of all the MMOs I tried, this was the one I didn't want to return to, though I couldn't say why. :hmm:
I guess I will give Kingdoms of Amalur another shot at some point, because it is, essentially a single player MMO the way it's designed.
I quit when MoP came out, then came back last year. WoD is so far very enjoyable.
I really like the fact that Blizzard continues its great tradition of stealing good ideas from other MMORPGs, while keeping WoW the most polished MMORPG on the market. Some things added in the last few years or so:
- bag sorting;
- quest items take no bag space;
- collection tab for "toys" (vanity items), pets and mounts (and all account-wide shared) so they do not take up bag space;
- being able to craft "from bank";
- being able to mine, fish and herb everywhere irrespective of skill level (you just get more things the higher the level you have);
- the "Looking For Raid" thing (I have always been quite a casual player - thanks to this, I managed to do all raid content as a healer, dps, and tank in MoP - the "hard core" guys have higher levels of difficulty, like Heroic and Mythic instead);
- quest mobs/unique mobs not being "tappable" but increasing its strength/health etc., the more people attack it (irrespective of whether you are in a party or not);
- less static quests, more quests triggered by interaction with the environment (e.g. you kill a bear and a quest pops out telling you someone will reward you when you kill 10 bears);
- ability pruning, no "must-have" builds;
- gear with changing stats depending on talent spec (e.g. plate that switches from Int to Strength if your paladin changes spec from Holy to Protection);
- garrisons (sort of "player housing" but with a central role for questing, crafting etc.);
- new character models (human males now actually look HAWT).
I have now switched to alliance and have a worgen (protection) warrior, a draenei (holy) paladin, a human mage and a dwarf warlock.
Edit: Oh, and also, to lure new players, you get a free boost of one character to level 90 (i.e. the starting level for WoD) when you buy WoD, and can later buy more as a service in the game store (although it pays off to level the character to level 60 - which now takes a few days - as then you also get your professions leveled to the max). So no need to get through the old content first to get to the new content, if you do not feel like doing it all over again.
Ugh. These queue times are incredibly annoying. Nothing says fun like consistent 2+ hour waits to play. :bleeding:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on November 15, 2014, 06:04:44 PM
Ugh. These queue times are incredibly annoying. Nothing says fun like consistent 2+ hour waits to play. :bleeding:
Switch to a low pop server.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 15, 2014, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on November 15, 2014, 06:04:44 PM
Ugh. These queue times are incredibly annoying. Nothing says fun like consistent 2+ hour waits to play. :bleeding:
Switch to a low pop server.
:mellow:
All servers as of last night before maintence were locked as they deal with all their various issues.
I saw a screenshot on Neogaf of a 5615mins wait queue, that's almost 94 hours.
Quote from: katmai on November 15, 2014, 08:52:42 PM
All servers as of last night before maintence were locked as they deal with all their various issues.
You're surprisingly well-informed about such things. Did they pull you back in?
:( yes
Jaron sucked in too.
My brother is playing and says the expansion is awesome, but no chance of me re-subbing right now. I'm getting GTA V for my PS4 next week. It'll probably take me at least a month to tire of whore beating, and then maybe I'll check it out. :)
Quote from: katmai on November 16, 2014, 02:10:46 AM
:( yes
I have been reading through the changes. I admit to feeling a bit of an itch - especially knowing that you are playing again.
I am prepared to be mocked. :Embarrass:
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 16, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 16, 2014, 02:10:46 AM
:( yes
I have been reading through the changes. I admit to feeling a bit of an itch - especially knowing that you are playing again.
I am prepared to be mocked. :Embarrass:
:D
Ok, downloading now.
Not sure how much time I will have for this but I can poke around a bit.
What is your advice, bring up my Shaman or Priest to 90? Or perhaps play through with a new character class to learn the new mechanics?
You should make a druid and name him Torous.
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 16, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
Ok, downloading now.
Not sure how much time I will have for this but I can poke around a bit.
What is your advice, bring up my Shaman or Priest to 90? Or perhaps play through with a new character class to learn the new mechanics?
well purchase should give you lvl boost to 90 for one character.
Yeah my work means I have maybe an hour a night if that to play so going at my own leisure.
Arzen hasn't been on in 4 months. So far few names you know from vita are back playing.
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 16, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 16, 2014, 02:10:46 AM
:( yes
I have been reading through the changes. I admit to feeling a bit of an itch - especially knowing that you are playing again.
I am prepared to be mocked. :Embarrass:
:lol: :lol: :lol: You caved before I did.
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 16, 2014, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 16, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 16, 2014, 02:10:46 AM
:( yes
I have been reading through the changes. I admit to feeling a bit of an itch - especially knowing that you are playing again.
I am prepared to be mocked. :Embarrass:
:lol: :lol: :lol: You caved before I did.
Yeah, it was the nostalgia more than anything. I poked around for a bit, said hi to some old guildies that are still around then logged off. Probably an impulse buy I shouldnt have made but I will log in every once in a while to keep poking around.
Blizzard designed this entire expansion around Nostalgia. We all feel it. We remember Burning Crusade & long for it.
The changes were a bit much to figure out in the brief time I was on. No more skill trees :cry:
My bars are all messed up and I have to figure out what macros I now need etc. Its a bit like learning a new system but with advanced characters.
I am wondering whether I should just try something new and level a panda monk healer/dps from lvl one to get a feel for it all.
What about professions. What is worth having these days?
The alternative is just leveling my priest from 85 and keeping all the work I put in leveling enchanting. If I do this I think I would want to keep the free 90 boost for some other class I might want.
Thoughts and advice welcome :)
Roll a new toon up to 20 to start getting comfortable with the more general changes, then decide what to do.
Blizzard has cut down the number of abilities and/or added some together, or certain abilities/spells are only available to certain talent trees. This cuts down on a crowded tool bar and so far I like what they've done. So macros are likely less confusing and not as many needed.
I don't know what levels you need to be to get into the new regions but if it's like other expacs then it's likely 88. Starting out as a 90 in the expac the first area's mobs are pretty easy to kill if you're geared well from Pandaria. The first areas seem to be geared towards all players, including those not geared well, so you should be fine.
Professions. I think jewel crafting and enchanting are good. You can sell enchants on the AH, and gems have a good market. Herbalism perhaps as I used to make a lot of money selling herbs but that can vary and I've found it depends on the server. I really don't know about the others so much but mining should do well or most gathering profs. Check out the Auction House on your server to see what seems to be selling a lot of.
Quote from: KRonn on November 17, 2014, 03:11:34 PM
Blizzard has cut down the number of abilities and/or added some together, or certain abilities/spells are only available to certain talent trees. This cuts down on a crowded tool bar and so far I like what they've done. So macros are likely less confusing and not as many needed.
I don't know what levels you need to be to get into the new regions but if it's like other expacs then it's likely 88. Starting out as a 90 in the expac the first area's mobs are pretty easy to kill if you're geared well from Pandaria. The first areas seem to be geared towards all players, including those not geared well, so you should be fine.
Professions. I think jewel crafting and enchanting are good. You can sell enchants on the AH, and gems have a good market. Herbalism perhaps as I used to make a lot of money selling herbs but that can vary and I've found it depends on the server. I really don't know about the others so much but mining should do well or most gathering profs. Check out the Auction House on your server to see what seems to be selling a lot of.
Thanks, I wont worry so much about learning to program new macros. :)
Professions are now much more nice to have than must have. Also you can now level all from 1 in Draenor so no need to pre-level.
Quote from: Martinus on November 17, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
Professions are now much more nice to have than must have. Also you can now level all from 1 in Draenor so no need to pre-level.
When were they ever must have?
Well they used to give bonus to stats etc for example. And besides now you can create a lot of stuff in your garrison.
Having some trouble getting back into it. The target mob, click appropriate rotation buttons, rinse and repeat used to seem more interesting somehow.
I was going to buy it tonight, but it turned out I was able to download Hearthstone for free. Probably still end up getting it in a couple days.
The garrison only works half of the time but it is so much fun. I just saw my followers walk out on a mission I sent them. :D
Only works half time? How so. I'm still barely into it with just upgrading to lvl 2 but haven't seen anything wonky as yet.
Quote from: katmai on November 20, 2014, 03:22:43 AM
Only works half time? How so. I'm still barely into it with just upgrading to lvl 2 but haven't seen anything wonky as yet.
Well, yesterday evening I was unable to log on my character who logged off in my lvl 2 garrison and had to play on an alt - effectively the garrison lvl 2 "world server" was down on most EU servers.
I'm really loving this expansion. So much fun stuff to see and do. :)
Yeah, they really seem to have done their best. It has the freshness of the Burning Crusade and the Wrath of the Lich King to it, coupled with some really cool game improvements. It almost feels like WoW 2.0.
Btw, garrison mission management - candidate for a mobile app? I would love to be able to send my followers on missions when I am at work. :P
Admittedly, this is the first time I am seriously playing Alliance, so this may be contributing to the "freshness" factor for me.
I played a bit more last night leveling my Priest from 85 in the Pandora expansion lands. I like the new (to me) quest ideas. I am going to put in a rule of the ratio of gym time to WoW time to make sure I dont sink back into old unhealthy habits. :D
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 20, 2014, 12:01:19 PM
I played a bit more last night leveling my Priest from 85 in the Pandora expansion lands. I like the new (to me) quest ideas. I am going to put in a rule of the ratio of gym time to WoW time to make sure I dont sink back into old unhealthy habits. :D
Good idea. :)
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 20, 2014, 12:01:19 PM
I played a bit more last night leveling my Priest from 85 in the Pandora expansion lands. I like the new (to me) quest ideas. I am going to put in a rule of the ratio of gym time to WoW time to make sure I dont sink back into old unhealthy habits. :D
1/100 or better? ;)
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 20, 2014, 04:30:30 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 20, 2014, 12:01:19 PM
I played a bit more last night leveling my Priest from 85 in the Pandora expansion lands. I like the new (to me) quest ideas. I am going to put in a rule of the ratio of gym time to WoW time to make sure I dont sink back into old unhealthy habits. :D
1/100 or better? ;)
more like 1:1 ;)
Ok, I gotta say, the quests are really nicely done. Just finished the entire Shadow Moon Valley. It really feels like a story.
I think they have put a lot of effort into making this solo friendly rather than simply making it a race to gear up for end game raiding. I like it.
Also, I am glad I didnt read all the WoW forum QQ about how terrible it was to take a new toon to 90. The forums make it sound like the incremental introduction of skills makes it impossible to get through the intro. I bought a new Panda monk to 90 and found it easy and fun to get through the intro. I also like the way they have changed professions so that I dont have to go back to the old zones to level.
The only question I have is how to pick up my dual spec. Do I need to travel back to an old world trainer to pick it up?
You guys still on Uther? Only familiar name I've seen is Dem.
Yeah but I play mostly on Horde now on Uther. :D
On Alliance, my main is a hunter which I am leveling atm. On the Horde my main dk is already at 100.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 25, 2014, 03:52:32 AM
You guys still on Uther? Only familiar name I've seen is Dem.
yeah I'm on uther, been leveling my monk first.
dem, CC and I are in same guild, jaron bolted for new guild right before xpac.
What is your monk's name, Kat?
I've been playing my dk, Grinner.
Oh that is you!
Ekaitz.
Played a bit more this weekend and I have been healing my way through some normal dungeons (just shy of the ilvl for heroics atm). I have noticed a cultural shift from when I last played. It used to be that people would be a bit social before the run and congratulatory after the run. Now if there is any talking at all it is to bitch and complain about something not going just right. Maybe things will get better once I am at the ilvl for heroics as that is probably where the better players are now.
The game has become greatly simplified. As a healer I have very few options in terms of cd skills to use. It might be this class (mistweaver) in the past both my Shammy and Disc Priest had a lot of situational skills. but now healing seems to be more about normal rotation skills with very limited use of situational buttons. Healing is difficult because the HPS is not as good as I would like but in the past there were things a skilled player could do with all those situational cds. But now it seems the skill of the player does not matter as much because there are few options and to a great extent it all comes down to gearing.
Agreed on both counts. That seems to be the big problem with the streamlining: It's all about the gear now. As to the original point, I think it depends a bit on what battlegroup your realm is on. I play on RP servers, and generally the players seem to be more friendly in bg's and dungeons.
I think it is more hit and miss. I try to say hello at the beginning of each run, and thank you at the end. More often than note the group is nice, it seems.
Really liking how versatile a warlock is now (I just made one - and spent 50 Euro to boost him to 90 when I was 80 - because I couldn't stand the grind any more :Embarrass: ). Thanks to the Grimoire of Sacrifice, you can make a de facto "dark mage" (no pet, ranged dps) for PvP and PvE dungeons, but if you want, with the right demonology glyphs and talents you can have your own veritable herd of demons following you just as well.
Playing Destruction and loving it.
As I've said, I like how they streamlined all the abilities and spells, merged some, removed others, and made some passive. Makes it easier to play and easier on additions to the tool bars. I'm also really liking the Garrisons.
I miss being able to be a good healer because I had good situational awareness and could anticipate when certain skills would be needed at certain times. I miss being able to make a big difference based on skill. I don't like the fact the only effective difference between a good healer and a great healer is their ilvl. I am starting to lose interest.
After a month, my dk is still only level 93.
And I am letting my subscription end in less than two weeks. Leveling was awesome but max level content is bleh. Time for a break.
Quote from: Rex Francorum on December 23, 2014, 12:15:07 PM
And I am letting my subscription end in less than two weeks. Leveling was awesome but max level content is bleh. Time for a break.
Yeah, I cancelled my subscription as well. Its a pity, I liked the design of the world and the quests. But the rest disappointed for the reasons given above.
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 15, 2014, 02:15:19 PM
I have noticed a cultural shift from when I last played. It used to be that people would be a bit social before the run and congratulatory after the run. Now if there is any talking at all it is to bitch and complain about something not going just right.
The game has become ygreatly simplified.
This is exactly why I stopped playing. It became a lot less fun when it became about buying through dungeons for gear. Healing is boring now too.
I just started on this expansion and I like it so far. The storyline is interesting and the leveling flows nicely from zone to zone with tie ins to the garrison which I also like.
So. Anyone else left playing? :ph34r:
I hate that they reward casuals with epics. Having full epic gear used to mean something on WoW. People treated you like you were important. Now every 5 year old can do LFR and have the same gear you used to have to work months to get.
Quote from: Jaron on April 07, 2016, 02:55:29 AM
I hate that they reward casuals with epics.
Welcome to 2008?
Quote from: Jaron on April 07, 2016, 02:55:29 AM
I hate that they reward casuals with epics. Having full epic gear used to mean something on WoW. People treated you like you were important. Now every 5 year old can do LFR and have the same gear you used to have to work months to get.
You are probably trolling, but actually it's people with lives and jobs who get epics from LFR - 10 year olds are the only ones who have time to play like in vanilla.
I tried WoW again a few months back and couldn't play it for more than about an hour. It's so, so, so dated now.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 07, 2016, 02:42:56 AM
So. Anyone else left playing? :ph34r:
I still play, still enjoy the game.
Quote from: Caliga on April 07, 2016, 08:34:43 AM
I tried WoW again a few months back and couldn't play it for more than about an hour. It's so, so, so dated now.
Dated? You mean the graphics aren't pretty enough?
Well the gameplay is not exactly ground breaking anymore either.
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
Well the gameplay is not exactly ground breaking anymore either.
Honestly, I mostly play simpler games these days. I also got bored with WoW, but it's not because it was replaced with something more awesome. :sleep:
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
Well the gameplay is not exactly ground breaking anymore either.
This, and yes the graphics are dated too.
The gameplay was never groundbreaking.
Quote from: Berkut on April 10, 2016, 06:42:44 PM
The gameplay was never groundbreaking.
I thought the use of instances was pretty groundbreaking. Or at least I never saw it before in DAOC of EQ. That made a huge difference in how the game was played. There were other things as well but it has been so long I cannot remember them.
Indeed, not nearly enough trains in WoW. :(
If you want a MMO with groundbreaking gameplay, you need FFXIV.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 10, 2016, 08:56:01 PM
Indeed, not nearly enough trains in WoW. :(
Man. Those were the days. I loved trains so much I once asked the devs to introduce a spell that did 1 point of damage to every monster in the zone.
Quote from: Jaron on April 10, 2016, 11:35:22 PM
If you want a MMO with groundbreaking gameplay, you need FFXIV.
Yeah I have heard good things about it.
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2016, 06:40:29 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 07, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
Well the gameplay is not exactly ground breaking anymore either.
This, and yes the graphics are dated too.
I think it holds up pretty well. Cataclysm refreshed some of the vanilla graphics and both MoP and WoD have very good graphics, imo. It's not Witcher 3, of course but with MMOs performance is very important and I can't think of many MMOs which have much better graphics (not just screenshots but actually animations with actual normal performance settings).
Quote from: Valmy on April 10, 2016, 08:28:26 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 10, 2016, 06:42:44 PM
The gameplay was never groundbreaking.
I thought the use of instances was pretty groundbreaking. Or at least I never saw it before in DAOC of EQ. That made a huge difference in how the game was played. There were other things as well but it has been so long I cannot remember them.
It has been groundbreaking in almost every way that is now considered a standard. And after 15 years since its release it is still the only MMORPG that has made it to the popular culture. It is not a small feat.
I don't know what you could consider ground breaking but I'll say this: Wow has consistently set the standard for MMOs since 2005. If nothing else, they're the compass by which all other MMOs set their path.
Except FFXIV. But to be fair, they did have a horrible release and decided to start over.
I think WoW's "problem" is that people do not realise what MMOs were like before WoW - I mean, first of all, WoW was the first MMO for a lot of people, so it is hard to compare. But stuff like hearthstones, flight paths, instances, leveling mainly through quests etc. were all introduced or perfected by WoW.
For example, people don't remember that before WoW you levelled mainly by grinding mobs, and quests (if they happened at all) were more like an occassional reward for reaching a certain level.
No question, WoW was a lot more convenient than the MMOs I played before it. Though I think they did maybe go a bit too far in that direction. Once you could hop on and get a free instance group whenever you wanted, running instances stopped being a big deal. Same with raid instances. As much as it sucked to have groups that kept losing people and took several hours to complete Shadow Lab or Wailing Caverns, those runs were at least memorable. Yet another 10 minute breeze through a dungeon because the rest of the group is raid geared and only doing their daily did not make for memorable or even particularly enjoyable experiences.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 11, 2016, 05:10:20 AM
No question, WoW was a lot more convenient than the MMOs I played before it. Though I think they did maybe go a bit too far in that direction. Once you could hop on and get a free instance group whenever you wanted, running instances stopped being a big deal. Same with raid instances. As much as it sucked to have groups that kept losing people and took several hours to complete Shadow Lab or Wailing Caverns, those runs were at least memorable. Yet another 10 minute breeze through a dungeon because the rest of the group is raid geared and only doing their daily did not make for memorable or even particularly enjoyable experiences.
I think they decided to cater to people with different life style choices - now WoW is mainly for casual players, with jobs and the like - I think they mentioned once that the average player age is around 30 or something. I don't mind it at all, as that's how I play the game now - for example for 40 minutes in the morning before work or half an hour after work - so being able to pop in and do a dungeon run is very helpful.
In fact, for me the biggest disadvantage of GW2 (which is my second favourite MMORPG - and the only post-WoW MMORPG that managed to actually hold me for more than a month) is that instances are so much more pain to arrange and play through.
More like people having kids- jobs don't prevent you from blocking out a couple hours to play. :contract:
For me, it's just not enough there anymore to justify the monthly fee. I have games that I play for 5-10 minutes a day, but they're free.
Fortunately I was done with MMOs before I had kids. So don't blame me :P
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2016, 04:49:49 AM
I think WoW's "problem" is that people do not realise what MMOs were like before WoW - I mean, first of all, WoW was the first MMO for a lot of people, so it is hard to compare. But stuff like hearthstones, flight paths, instances, leveling mainly through quests etc. were all introduced or perfected by WoW.
For example, people don't remember that before WoW you levelled mainly by grinding mobs, and quests (if they happened at all) were more like an occassional reward for reaching a certain level.
That is just not even remotely true.
And there was PLENTY of grinding in WoW - having a "quest" to go collect 12 items that means you have to kill 50 mobs is still grinding. Not to mention that DAOC, EverQUEST, etc., etc. all had quests as well.
WoW was not groundbreaking in much of anything, perhaps with one (critical) exception:
They embraced the idea that nothing in the game should be annoying for the sake of slowing the player down. So they were willing to just refuse to play the EQ game of travel sinks and such.
Other than that, it's incredible success was not about breaking ground, but rather about doing a lot of the same stuff a damn sight better than the competition.
Actually EverQUEST did not really have quests, at least when I played it. There was no quest journal or anything. The first time I got that was in DAOC.
Berkut, would you agree with the proposition that WoW was the first game to put elements that could be found in earlier MMOs into one game. I agree with your observation that much of what was in WoW could be found in other games but WoW was very effective at putting all those ideas into their game.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2016, 04:44:55 PM
Berkut, would you agree with the proposition that WoW was the first game to put elements that could be found in earlier MMOs into one game. I agree with your observation that much of what was in WoW could be found in other games but WoW was very effective at putting all those ideas into their game.
Yep, I think that is very much the case.
They didn't really do anything new, but they took a lot of ideas that had already been done, and did them better. Heck, there were a lot of things that other games had done that they did NOT do at first.
Mostly though, they just approached the entire thing in the normal Blizzard way - how do we identify the things that people really like, execute them as well as possible, and throw out the rest. And we don't care at all about how things are "supposed" to be...
It seems like there were totally new ideas. Like the talent trees I think. As I said I remember thinking they did some exciting new things at the time, even as a veteran DAOC and EQ player, but it is hard to remember exactly.
They had talent trees in DAOC, sort of, but it was things you got via RvR instead of just leveling up.
Talent trees were as old as the original Diablo. True, a Blizzard product but it was not revolutionary by the time WoW was released. Just another example of Blizzard incorporating an already existing idea into the game.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
Talent trees were as old as the original Diablo. True, a Blizzard product but it was not revolutionary by the time WoW was released. Just another example of Blizzard incorporating an already existing idea into the game.
Got it. I never played Diablo.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
Talent trees were as old as the original Diablo. True, a Blizzard product but it was not revolutionary by the time WoW was released. Just another example of Blizzard incorporating an already existing idea into the game.
You do realise Blizzard also made Diablo, right? The point is that they innovated MMOs. Faulting them for bringing ideas from other game genres into MMOs (especially when they actually invented those ideas in those other genres) is pretty shitty.
Quote from: Valmy on April 11, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
Actually EverQUEST did not really have quests, at least when I played it. There was no quest journal or anything. The first time I got that was in DAOC.
When did you play EQ? I started playing during the era of the first expansion, The Ruins of Kunark, in 2000 and there were quests then.
Quote from: Martinus on April 12, 2016, 01:07:03 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
Talent trees were as old as the original Diablo. True, a Blizzard product but it was not revolutionary by the time WoW was released. Just another example of Blizzard incorporating an already existing idea into the game.
You do realise Blizzard also made Diablo, right?
Marti, read my post again.
Quote from: Martinus on April 12, 2016, 01:07:03 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
Talent trees were as old as the original Diablo. True, a Blizzard product but it was not revolutionary by the time WoW was released. Just another example of Blizzard incorporating an already existing idea into the game.
You do realise Blizzard also made Diablo, right? The point is that they innovated MMOs. Faulting them for bringing ideas from other game genres into MMOs (especially when they actually invented those ideas in those other genres) is pretty shitty.
Nobody is faulting them for anything.
Well nobody had ever combined all those elements together before and they did make for a different game experience than what had come before.
QuoteWhen did you play EQ? I started playing during the era of the first expansion, The Ruins of Kunark, in 2000 and there were quests then.
1999-2001 I think. There were quests but it was different. They were all repeatable and you had to make your own notes. They also had, as a rule, pretty piss poor rewards because of that infinitely repeatable thing.
OK, so just because people are saying that WoW didn't invent sliced bread doesn't mean that anyone is bashing WoW.
They didn't invent sliced bread. They did create the most successful MMO of all time, and possibly the most successful game of all time. WoW was incredible in many, many ways.
It just wasn't particularly innovative in its gameplay. But it didn't need to be in order to be as great as it was, and recognizing that was, IMO, the key to their success. The genre was not lacking innovation prior to WoW, it was lacking professional execution and paying attention to what the customers actually wanted.
Quote from: Valmy on April 12, 2016, 10:23:25 AM
Well nobody had ever combined all those elements together before and they did make for a different game experience than what had come before.
QuoteWhen did you play EQ? I started playing during the era of the first expansion, The Ruins of Kunark, in 2000 and there were quests then.
1999-2001 I think. There were quests but it was different. They were all repeatable and you had to make your own notes. They also had, as a rule, pretty piss poor rewards because of that infinitely repeatable thing.
EQ was a long, long time ago, so my memory might be faulty.
But quests in EQ were not about leveling, they were about the quest. It wasn't something you did to get a chunk of XP at the end, it was something you did because it provided a structure around your activities.
Same with DAOC, and that was fine. It is like raids in WoW - you don't do them in order to get XP, you do them in order to get other things. Not everything is about XP.
So WoW made leveling via questing kind of a thing, but the concept of quests themselves was hardly ground breaking.
Quote from: Berkut on April 12, 2016, 10:33:22 AM
OK, so just because people are saying that WoW didn't invent sliced bread doesn't mean that anyone is bashing WoW.
They didn't invent sliced bread. They did create the most successful MMO of all time, and possibly the most successful game of all time. WoW was incredible in many, many ways.
It just wasn't particularly innovative in its gameplay. But it didn't need to be in order to be as great as it was, and recognizing that was, IMO, the key to their success. The genre was not lacking innovation prior to WoW, it was lacking professional execution and paying attention to what the customers actually wanted.
I didn't think you were. I was just remembering back when it first came out and how excited I was for a bunch of the features.
Quote from: Berkut on April 12, 2016, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 12, 2016, 10:23:25 AM
Well nobody had ever combined all those elements together before and they did make for a different game experience than what had come before.
QuoteWhen did you play EQ? I started playing during the era of the first expansion, The Ruins of Kunark, in 2000 and there were quests then.
1999-2001 I think. There were quests but it was different. They were all repeatable and you had to make your own notes. They also had, as a rule, pretty piss poor rewards because of that infinitely repeatable thing.
EQ was a long, long time ago, so my memory might be faulty.
But quests in EQ were not about leveling, they were about the quest. It wasn't something you did to get a chunk of XP at the end, it was something you did because it provided a structure around your activities.
Same with DAOC, and that was fine. It is like raids in WoW - you don't do them in order to get XP, you do them in order to get other things. Not everything is about XP.
So WoW made leveling via questing kind of a thing, but the concept of quests themselves was hardly ground breaking.
No they were things you did to get faction increases. They generally were like 'bring me a gnoll tooth!' and you got 15 gnoll teeth on that last run so you go turn them in and get some rep instead of selling them all for 1 copper each. But you rarely planned your activities around them.
You could get good experience and loot from questing in DAOC. But it was like WoW questing, one offs generally. Except for the fact there were no quest markers of any kind.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 12, 2016, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 11, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
EverQUEST
Evercamp.
Yep :P
I kind of enjoyed that part. The sitting around with massive downtime really gave you the opportunity to get to socialize and get to meet everybody in your group. But people seem to prefer actually doing gameplay :P
Quote from: Valmy on April 12, 2016, 10:39:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 12, 2016, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 11, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
EverQUEST
Evercamp.
Yep :P
I kind of enjoyed that part. The sitting around with massive downtime really gave you the opportunity to get to socialize and get to meet everybody in your group. But people seem to prefer actually doing gameplay :P
Yeah, that is something that I do NOT like about WoW anymore. Even the dungeons are so brain dead that the goal is to blaze through them as fast as possible, and people actually get pissed if you try to manage the content in any way - using tactics and actual good strategy is a waste of time! Just kill everything gogogogogogogo.
It turns the other players into meaningless automatons from your own perspective. Why play a MMO if the game doesn't actually require you to coordinate, and in fact punishes you for doing so?
Quote from: Berkut on April 12, 2016, 10:42:38 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 12, 2016, 10:39:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 12, 2016, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 11, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
EverQUEST
Evercamp.
Yep :P
I kind of enjoyed that part. The sitting around with massive downtime really gave you the opportunity to get to socialize and get to meet everybody in your group. But people seem to prefer actually doing gameplay :P
Yeah, that is something that I do NOT like about WoW anymore. Even the dungeons are so brain dead that the goal is to blaze through them as fast as possible, and people actually get pissed if you try to manage the content in any way - using tactics and actual good strategy is a waste of time! Just kill everything gogogogogogogo.
It turns the other players into meaningless automatons from your own perspective. Why play a MMO if the game doesn't actually require you to coordinate, and in fact punishes you for doing so?
I think you have identified what caused me to lose interest. Whether it was because we were just learning the content or the game mechanics were more difficult, there was a time when party members needed to communicate and strategy was required. That was a lot of fun.
Old man grumpy story time:
So in the weeks leading up to the release of Burning Crusade a buddy of mine desperately wanted something off the Emperor in Black Rock Depths...or whatever it was called. The instance in Blackrock that ended with the evil dwarf emperor. Now I had no interest in running this instance, it had nothing it for me. But I was running that damn instance a few times a week because he needed it and I was the tank and I just loved running dungeons with him and the others who made up our regular five person group. When LFG hit he would have just run it over and over again with some randos. He never did get the item, we had the worst luck.
Oddly the thing I most fondly remember from WoW was running BRD over and over again with him and our group. It was a fond farewell to vanilla WoW.
Back in my day things were so great. Where did it all go wrong? :mad:
Punk kids and their LFG.
@Berk.
I think WoW invented sliced bread, it didn't invent bread or a slicer.
I remember running a group of 3 or so quests in Qeynos ungodly amounts of times to raise my shadow knight to be in good standing with the good Qeynos guards. I would shout alerts for the boat and guide people around who didn't know where they were going while doing so. People would toss me tips and an occasional piece of armor. I loved the need to interact with npc's at the time to obtain quests, but I'm unsure if it I would enjoy it now after being spoiled by WoW. Speaking of WoW, I make an effort to offer full SFC clears for groups when I tank so they can see everything it has to offer. I also offer the Ogre King of Feralas option if people want to see how things can be run in a fun way. Having played for a very long time and leveled ungodly alts, I enjoy sharing the small things like that to players who never got to experience the old in-depth nature of the game from Vanilla and BC. Surprisingly, a lot of people appreciate the additional effort in those cases, as it breaks up the monotony of endless speed runs I presume.
WoW had really good timing too. I think a lot of households from 2000-2005 were still using dial up technologies but by 2005 and onward it was becoming more and more common for people to use broadband technologies and be able to fully engage in an online world like WoW.
I remember trying to do Ironforge on my 56k.
Haha, I met Berkut there to exchange items and I lagged so bad I fell into the moat. I think he said something on guild chat like "You're not very bright, are you?"
Quote from: Jaron on April 12, 2016, 11:37:55 PM
WoW had really good timing too. I think a lot of households from 2000-2005 were still using dial up technologies but by 2005 and onward it was becoming more and more common for people to use broadband technologies and be able to fully engage in an online world like WoW.
I remember trying to do Ironforge on my 56k.
Haha, I met Berkut there to exchange items and I lagged so bad I fell into the moat. I think he said something on guild chat like "You're not very bright, are you?"
Classic Berkut.
Quote from: Martinus on April 12, 2016, 11:51:20 PM
Quote from: Jaron on April 12, 2016, 11:37:55 PM
WoW had really good timing too. I think a lot of households from 2000-2005 were still using dial up technologies but by 2005 and onward it was becoming more and more common for people to use broadband technologies and be able to fully engage in an online world like WoW.
I remember trying to do Ironforge on my 56k.
Haha, I met Berkut there to exchange items and I lagged so bad I fell into the moat. I think he said something on guild chat like "You're not very bright, are you?"
Classic Berkut.
Haha, well it was more of a "WTF are you doing?!" moment. I can't remember if we were exchanging an item or if I was signing the guild charter. May have been the latter.
Quote from: Jaron on April 12, 2016, 11:37:55 PM
WoW had really good timing too. I think a lot of households from 2000-2005 were still using dial up technologies but by 2005 and onward it was becoming more and more common for people to use broadband technologies and be able to fully engage in an online world like WoW.
I remember trying to do Ironforge on my 56k.
Haha, I met Berkut there to exchange items and I lagged so bad I fell into the moat. I think he said something on guild chat like "You're not very bright, are you?"
:berkut: :lmfao:
That sounds like me - the giving people free stuff to help them out part, anyway!
I was always the nicest of guildmates.
I remember Strix calling me a Hunter "scrub" when I got the first Horde Black Bow of the Betrayer on our server. That was pretty funny.
Good times. Good times...
I remember Berkut not answering me all the time. It's like I was on ignore.
I remember not playing with you people because I preferred Horde.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 13, 2016, 10:04:25 AM
I remember Berkut not answering me all the time. It's like I was on ignore.
He probably thought you were Gen. Wolfe.
I remember not playing with you people because Blizzard has separate EU and US servers. :mad:
Quote from: Martinus on April 13, 2016, 10:29:15 AM
I remember not playing with you people because Blizzard has separate EU and US servers. :mad:
Yeah I missed the Euros. There was this particularly foul mouthed Belgian I would always play with super early in the morning my time in DAOC, because it was in the afternoon for her. The hilarity of her constantly cussing to express anything in English was a highlight of my day.
Quote from: Valmy on April 13, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
I remember not playing with you people because I preferred Horde.
And then you remember not playing with us because you preferred pve servers.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 13, 2016, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 13, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
I remember not playing with you people because I preferred Horde.
And then you remember not playing with us because you preferred pve servers.
I thought you were on a pve server? :hmm:
But actually I preferred RP servers.
I think we went back and forth.
We had one attempt where we all started new characters and were going to only ever play them together, once a week. That would have been pretty awesome, but of course it didn't actually work out. That was Horde though...
We rolled hordies on a rppvp server during late vanilla/early BC and mostly stuck around there through wotlk.
Shortly after the game came out we all had toons on the same PvE server, Alliance side. That lasted maybe 2-3 months.
Then yes, late vanilla many of us followed Habs and Berkut to a RP-PvP server hordeside. That seemed like it lasted much longer, though there were fewer of us.
Quote from: Barrister on April 13, 2016, 11:18:02 AM
Shortly after the game came out we all had toons on the same PvE server, Alliance side. That lasted maybe 2-3 months.
Then yes, late vanilla many of us followed Habs and Berkut to a RP-PvP server hordeside. That seemed like it lasted much longer, though there were fewer of us.
Ah yes. The real reason was that my old guild from DAOC tracked me down and I had been playing with some of them for five years.
I started as a Shaman playing as Horde PvP. That was really a lot of fun. World PvP was great back then.
I played with you guys a bit on alliance side after a while but that fell apart shortly after I started. I swear I had nothing to do with everyone leaving.
Then I played alliance with some friends when shaman were available to both factions. At some point Katmai and Jaron were in that group. Then I retired from WoW. I have a vague recollection of playing in a Horde side guild with Katmai also - that might have been the Languish Horde PvP group.
Dalaran and Lightninghoof :wub:
I've been thinking of buying the new expansion and try it for a month or so. :unsure:
Quote from: Liep on June 18, 2016, 03:13:40 AM
I've been thinking of buying the new expansion and try it for a month or so. :unsure:
:cheers: You might want to hop back in during the pre-release events that are going on. There will be the chance to learn the new talent options, class changes, and earn some gear that should help while everyone else is doing the same thing.
I've been in beta last few weeks. I might come back to release to try it out. I've been enjoying the demon Hunter class.
Quote from: katmai on June 18, 2016, 10:35:11 PM
I've been in beta last few weeks. I might come back to release to try it out. I've been enjoying the demon Hunter class.
That does look like good fun. And yeah, will probably start up in july or so when I get more free time.
I messed around in a beta a bit this weekend. It is an amazing gaming experience.
Who still plays WoW in 2016? :blink:
G.
Quote from: Jaron on June 19, 2016, 06:06:25 PM
I messed around in a beta a bit this weekend. It is an amazing gaming experience.
beta for what?
Quote from: katmai on June 19, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: Jaron on June 19, 2016, 06:06:25 PM
I messed around in a beta a bit this weekend. It is an amazing gaming experience.
beta for what?
Legion...
Quote from: Grallon on June 19, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
Who still plays WoW in 2016? :blink:
G.
A lot of people. The game has really moved away from the play 24/7 model to being able to play in small bursts and get your stuff done. I mean I did all my weekly raiding I wanted to do in about 1.5 hours spread across the week. It isn't like it used to be where you had to dedicate hours to it so it works for a lot of people.
Quote from: Grallon on June 19, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
Who still plays WoW in 2016? :blink:
G.
Me. Never stopped. :lol:
Me too. I had some short breaks (notably, when GW2 came out I sat out most of Pandaria and only got it late in the cycle, after they announced WoD) but otherwise never stopped playing. The game is much more soloable now in that you can even raid with no guild and no permanent group, by using the LFR feature.
I recently started playing it again too. :unsure:
Quote from: Jaron on June 19, 2016, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: Grallon on June 19, 2016, 07:06:35 PM
Who still plays WoW in 2016? :blink:
G.
A lot of people. The game has really moved away from the play 24/7 model to being able to play in small bursts and get your stuff done. I mean I did all my weekly raiding I wanted to do in about 1.5 hours spread across the week. It isn't like it used to be where you had to dedicate hours to it so it works for a lot of people.
That is a good development. What impact did that change have on guilds? Do people just use PUGs now?
The normal and mythic raid difficulty levels (which cannot be accessed from LFR) yield better gear so guilds can still do those. Raid sizes are flexible, with the minimum number of raiders being 10 and then adjusting with difficulty to the number of people in, so also guilds can have 14 people raiding groups or some such.
When Legion comes out, I am going to make a blood elf demon hunter named Milo. :ph34r:
Yeah, that name totally won't be taken already Mart. :)
Quote from: Caliga on June 20, 2016, 09:29:31 AM
Yeah, that name totally won't be taken already Mart. :)
Miloyiannopoulos235
I have been in beta since Monday, so far only playing in DH starting area but loving it. One thing that I didn't notice at first but love - ordinary mobs can be tagged by up to 5 (non-grouped) people allowing them to take credit, loot etc from it (the xp is reduced). Mob tagging has been my main beef with WoW to date so absolutely great to see they changed it (for those who have been away for a while - rare mobs and unique quest mobs have been free from the tag system since Mists of Pandaria).
Another QoL improvement they stole from GW2: when you find new gear, the skin becomes stored in your "skin bank" that is shared across the account and can be used by any character you have for transmog purposes. :thumbsup:
I have been looking at this a bit. One of the things that appeals to me is that secondary skill levels wont matter anymore so I dont have to grind for hours to get those skill numbers up. Also the timing works out well - by that time all of my family will be off doing other things. And it looks like Shaman healing is going to be pretty good. So it might be time for me to dust off my Shaman healer and take it around the block for a spin when this comes out.
Getting my Shaman ready for the expansion was very easy. You get a free up to 100 by purchasing the expansion with your secondary skills getting an automatic boost to max ( not fishing, cooking or archaeology). After that doing the legion invasion spawns got my gear lvl up very fast. They have made it easy for returning players :cool:
I have seen a lot of negative comments about trying to level through legion as a healer spec and lots of advice about leveling as dps and saving points to put into your artifact as a healing spec once you hit 110. But being a contrarian, I will try leveling as a healer and pick that spec for my first artifactt. I noticed that healing specs get a bump in dps when they put points into their artifact so I don't think it will be all that bad and if there is any chance to group I am hoping there will be very free true healers competing for spots.
Levelling through invasions is very easy. I got 5 characters to 100 in a few days.
I'm coming back after a three or so year hiatus. Haven't decided which class will be my main yet. I wanted to go Demo but it was gutted. It's basically been reduced to Affliction with pets as dots. Disc looks really fun, though I can't see how it'll deal with random damage. Perhaps Druid, which I've never used. I've got a kick-ass Mog for my hunter though, and I'm intrigued by Survival...
I have the WoW itch, again!
Suckers!
Played and enjoyed the beta but just don't have time to play MMORPG anymore.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 29, 2016, 08:48:52 PM
I have the WoW itch, again!
Don't scratch, you'll spread it around.
Quote from: Iormlund on August 28, 2016, 03:03:48 PM
Levelling through invasions is very easy. I got 5 characters to 100 in a few days.
I'm coming back after a three or so year hiatus. Haven't decided which class will be my main yet. I wanted to go Demo but it was gutted. It's basically been reduced to Affliction with pets as dots. Disc looks really fun, though I can't see how it'll deal with random damage. Perhaps Druid, which I've never used. I've got a kick-ass Mog for my hunter though, and I'm intrigued by Survival...
Caught up too late on that so my mage is now only level 40. :P But looking forward to playing Legion.
One word - awesome! :cool:
Yeah the leveling content is top notch like it was in Draenor.
I've been playing pretty steadily and was doing the invasions with my less geared characters. Got a bunch of drops and geared up very nicely. So far, so good, and enjoying it. :)
Is 39 000 gold still alot?
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 01, 2016, 08:34:21 PM
Is 39 000 gold still alot?
No. I can get twice that with a single WoW token.
39 000 gold.
Quote from: Martinus on September 02, 2016, 05:51:56 AM
Wow. Your server's economy sucks.
Why? What would be your server's price?
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35,980 on Wyrmrest Accord right now. I haven't checked Moon Guard in a bit.
I've made a Druid, I enjoy it.
Katmai, I owe you a 10 year old apology.
It took you ten years to try a druid?
Yes.
Also levelling a druid and also liking the new expansion. Though I do not like what the artefact weapon is doing to my cat so I hope there's a way to change the looks. :P
I gotta say I was really hyped for Legion until about mid-July and I cannot seem to regain my hype yet. The Secret World seems like so much more fun at the moment. :ph34r:
I really like how they have done the daily world quests. Once you have at least a friendly rep with all factions you get access to them. From the map you can see which ones are available and what the reward will be. The quests change regularly so there is not the sense of the daily grind that was present before. Also you only need to complete 4 to get the faction reward for the day. It is a big improvement and something that can keep a players interest for a lot longer than before.
Also as a healer I have no wait times for dungeons. As soon as I selection the option it pops immediately. :cool:
Questing with a healer was not nearly as painful as I thought it might be. I now have all three artifacts and I have tried the dps but frankly, with the dps boost my healing artifact gives me plus my companion, I actually prefer questing with my healer. It also helps that I am putting all my points into one artifact...
New app allows for access to Class quests/follower recruitment for all characters. It is pretty sweet and simple to use. I wish they'd had one for the mind-numbing Garrison Missions, but they learned their lesson for Legion it seems.
Fine I bought it you fuckers. Won't be able to really delve in till Saturday though.
We're sorry.
I haven't even bought it, just resubbed for 30days.
Still cant figure what class I want to play & apply my 100 lvl boost to.
Quote from: katmai on September 08, 2016, 03:33:47 AM
Fine I bought it you fuckers. Won't be able to really delve in till Saturday though.
:lol:
So anyone still playing?
I left back in early November. The novelty had wore off & it was a just a grind.
Haven't logged on in a while. It was a lot of fun but now it has become repetitive.
I think what the game developers need to understand is that not everyone wants to rush to the end game. Vanilla Wow was successful because there was a whole world to explore for a very long time before getting to the end game.
My subscription will expire in a few days - Katmai do you want my stuff or are you also done?
Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 08, 2016, 04:21:16 AM
So anyone still playing?
Me. Haha. I never really walked away though. I keep it in fairly steady rotation. My compulsion to have a ton of alts and being involved in a rp guild keeps be coming back.
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 08, 2016, 11:03:49 AM
Haven't logged on in a while. It was a lot of fun but now it has become repetitive.
I think what the game developers need to understand is that not everyone wants to rush to the end game. Vanilla Wow was successful because there was a whole world to explore for a very long time before getting to the end game.
My subscription will expire in a few days - Katmai do you want my stuff or are you also done?
im at point I want to raid ( and I mean real raiding not lfr), which would mean leaving vita. But the time expect ed by guilds for progression raiding is more than I have available. Which means only reason to stick around is leveling alts.
Still playing (Uther-Runetotem merged servers).
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/12/19/back-to-warcraft-with-nostalrius/
QuoteHeading back to World Of Warcraft with Nostalrius
Last week saw the return of World of Warcraft's most controversial server, Nostalrius. It's a private server which aims to recreate the experience of 'vanilla' World of Warcraft – that is, WoW as it was at or shortly after launch, before being supplemented and re-shaped by a hundred updates and multiple expansions. Logging on, I'm told "Position in queue, 3801. Estimated time: 47 minutes", before being ushered into a world of lag and people complaining about random disconnects. So, uh... yeah! Congratulations to the team for perfectly recreating the vanilla WoW experience! :lol:
Seriously though, it's an odd experience going back to a game that's still ticking along. Nostalrius hit the headlines earlier this year when Blizzard put the kibosh on it. As kiboshes go, it was a friendly one, with the team invited to Blizzard HQ to discuss the matter, and even raise the issue of official 'legacy' servers not operating on the wrong side of World of Warcraft's terms and conditions. However, all of that came to nothing. After months of the silent treatment, the Nostalrius team opted to give the bear one final poke by giving their code to another legacy team, Elysium. The new Nostalrius now lives on its servers, with both PvE and PvP servers to choose from, ready to let players party like it's 2005. Again. With rather more General chat about Trump.
Private servers, also often referred to as 'shards', are nothing new of course. Ultima Online was the first game where they became a big deal, largely helped by EA turning a surprisingly blind eye to the whole thing. Many operate on their own rules, including instant max-level characters or crazy XP gain, while others have their own goals. As the name suggests, Nostalrius is primarily about preserving a snapshot of the past that is otherwise impossible to return to. Yes, World of Warcraft is still around, and at first glance may even look like the same game. Over the years though, it's changed in just about every way imaginable, not least that many zones got an overhaul during the Cataclysm. This is the only way to play World of Warcraft frozen as it actually was.
Oh, except that right now it's Winter Veil, obviously.
Start it up now for instance and gosh, yes, it's amazing how well the graphics hold up, but it looks old. There's no handy markers to show you where your next target is or where the current quest ends. Forget about flying mounts, or getting a regular epic one without some serious effort. In many cases, the march of progress did a fine job of filing the edges off things and making them easier. In doing so though, it's hard to argue that much has been lost. I always liked the ceremony of going back to a class trainer to get new abilities for instance, and the original game's willingness to do things like the Druid form quest that sends you through far too high-level territory. That was a real adventure, especially on the PvP server where I cut my first Level 60, rather than just another quest balanced to be basically effortless. Likewise, while there's no arguing that tools like Look For Group and Look For Raid are effective at getting into the action quickly, they and the new capital cities of every expansion largely emptied most of the world and turned it into a glorified matchmaking lobby. There's something pure about seeing someone running around Ironforge trying to get a group together to tackle Gnomeregan the old fashioned way. Or indeed, bother visiting Gnomeregan.
Certainly, just looking around is a nostalgic treat. Not being a particular fan of dungeons or raiding, I have no particular memories or opinion on the jump from Molten Core to Icecrown Citadel or the joys of 40-man assaults versus the smaller 5-man teams I personally prefer. I do have a deep fondness for the early years of World of Warcraft though, which like most, are as much down to the time as anything else. It wasn't the first MMO that I played by a long shot, but it was one of only two (the other being City of Heroes) where I had real-life friends and co-workers who also played, making it a social experience as much as a game. Exploring Scarlet Monastery with a high-level friend. Being the high-level friend whose Mage could literally blow away any 'high level' enemy that got in the way with a quick Cone of Cold.
Ah, memories. All that had largely faded away by the time Lich King came along, with most having drifted away and a few others having sunk into the hardcore world of raiding guilds and the like. Since then, I've not really had anything similar. I missed out on the MOBA craze due to it both being something played in other magazines' offices and then so tied to skill-level that the mere idea of inviting a noob to play along became almost statistically impossible. I didn't have a console for Destiny, which a lot of folks I know played over the last couple of years. Now, working freelance at the other end of the country from folks... or in a different country from folks... or folks having less time due to things like 'families' and all that nonsense, I just don't have the social circle to make something like Overwatch not just my game, but 'our' game. I miss having an 'our' game, a virtual Cheers of chat, adventure, murder and good times. But, that's largely impossible. You need an 'us' to make an 'our', and a game that, like World of Warcraft, at least feels like it will go on forever. How many games can you say that for?
Nostalrius obviously can't provide any of that. But to be sure, it's a reason for many players to be glad it exists. A warm moment frozen in time, like one of those 80s cartoon intro compilations over on YouTube. A game that is exactly what they want it to be and always will be. A community of like-wishers. A predictable, comfortable safe space where everything feels 'right', like a new Slanket on a cold evening. The plan is to keep stepping through time, opening up other legacy servers starting with The Burning Crusade, for fans who prefer a few more rough edges cut off, but again, those will be individual, isolated, separate places, where Dalaran is never going to fly free of its magic bubble overnight and where it's actually worth hanging around Ironforge, where mages with portals and warlocks with summons are actually worth their weight in gold again, and where the battle for Tarren Mill never, ever fades into irrelevance.
Purely on a historical basis, I think it's an interesting project. Love or hate World of Warcraft, it's a cultural phenomenon worth preserving, and that's something our industry does really badly. Just look at retro games. Sure, we've still got them, but look at how many people think that the mark of their graphics was crisp, pixel-perfect precision rather than the blurs of CRT monitors (and beyond that, the art design specifically made to make use of it, like King's Quest's dithered graphics – blurring together what few colours early graphics systems could handle in order to create a whole new palette of them.) With MMOs, the idea that a whole world should go away just because the creator flips a switch is personally something abhorrent. Whether it's a big name like Ultima Online or Everquest, or something less successful like Earth And Beyond or The Matrix Online, it's all worth preserving in whatever form we can.
Sure, it's technically against the terms of service. But at worst, it's a sub-subdivision of the fandom that players aren't going to stumble into by accident, meaning that any glitches or even toxic audiences aren't really going to affect Blizzard, and in any event, the idea of them actually running legacy servers has always felt a pipe-dream. Even if it happened, how long would it happen for? Fans are ironically much better equipped to handle this kind of project, thanks to a mix of being driven by passion, and not having to justify it in terms of profit. It's not as though plenty of the players wanting to go back in time aren't also playing the likes of Legion, if only to have new content between alts.
Besides, it's good to know that someone's still looking for Mankrik's Wife.
Quote from: Syt on June 24, 2014, 02:15:52 AM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/06/24/world-of-warcraft-level-90-neutral/
QuoteWorld Of Warcraft Player Reaches 90 Without Picking A Side
In case you'd forgotten, MMO players are crazy. I know: I used to be one. This, though, is a whole new level of dedication to a mind-numbingly repetitive task. A World of Warcraft player named "Doubleagent" (get it?) rolled a Pandaren character and never left the neutral starting zone. Somehow, though, they found a way to hit WoW's current level cap of 90. And by somehow, I mean they picked a lot of herbs and mined Azeroth hollow. This is not a task congruent with keeping one's sanity, but when somebody voluntarily sets out to do this, it makes you wonder if they were ever truly sane to begin with.
Now, quests got the character up to around level ten or so, but after that experience from enemies dried up, and herbs/ore were the only teets Doubleagent could reliably suckle precious, precious XP from.
In actuality, Doubleagent didn't find the process quite as boring as you might think. Despite the fact that it took 173.5 days' worth of playtime (dating all the way back to 2012), they found the process rather soothing:
Quote"At times I can find it relaxing, a change from the normal. Plus it's pretty easy to do when I have TV shows or movies that I need to catch up on, moreso than trying to do that during a battleground or raid."
Which... actually makes a lot of sense. I mean, why not? To each their own, and say what you will but this sort of thing takes tremendous dedication.
Plus, now when somebody asks the age old question – Alliance or Horde – there's a fully viable third option to bellow (because the only time anybody asks that anymore is at BlizzCon): NEITHER.
He's level 110:
http://www.pcgamer.com/meet-wows-biggest-hippie-a-panda-who-reached-max-level-by-picking-thousands-of-flowers/?utm_content=buffer3693c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb
QuoteMeet WoW's biggest hippie, a panda who reached max level by picking thousands of flowers
You merely adopted the grind. He was born in it, molded by it.
The Wandering Isle is a transient place. Sitting precariously on the back of the colossal turtle, it drifts from place to place across the seas of Azeroth. Likewise, its population is just as fleeting. As one of the starter zones in World of Warcraft, new pandaren characters begin their journey here before flying off to join either the Horde or the Alliance in neverending war. All of them but one.
'Doubleagent' has seen thousands of players level up and leave their homeland behind, but not him. For a normal player, the Wandering Isle is a kind of tutorial zone where pandaren characters complete easy quests and learn about their place in Azeroth. Once they level up enough, they're forced to choose a side to continue their journey. But Doubleagent never made that choice. He's World of Warcraft's first and only conscientious objector—a neutral pandaren shaman who spends his time picking flowers and mining rocks instead of fighting and killing. And, amazingly, after roughly 8000 hours of doing just that, Doubleagent has reached the maximum level of 110.
But what would force someone to subject themselves to a life of solitude on an island most characters spend about an hour on? Simple curiosity. "When I heard that pandaren started out as neutral, I was curious if I could somehow manage to reach max level without choosing a faction," Johnnie, the player behind Doubleagent, tells me. "Once I discovered that there were herb and mining nodes on the island, I knew it was possible."
The conviction to abstain from Azeroth's world-ending conflicts means that Doubleagent doesn't have access to the quests, dungeons, and raids that normal players use to level up. Instead, he picks flowers and mines rocks. Each day that Johnnie plays, he logs in and begins a lap of the Wandering Isle, stopping to pick every flower and mine every ore he sees. By the time he finishes a lap, the nodes have respawned and he can start again. And again. And again. And again.
Fast forward for years and that routine has been repeated hundreds of thousands of times. Each node he harvests typically comes out to about 90 experience points a pop. Considering that getting to level 100 (which Johnnie did back during the Warlords of Draenor expansion) takes just over 100 million experience points, and you can understand the daunting journey it took to reach level 110. When I ask Johnnie why he keeps going, he doesn't really have much of an answer. "I just keep at it," he says. "I don't know why. It's definitely not a process for the average person."
Grinding the days away
You might think that such an obsessive conviction is reserved for a more eccentric person, but Johnnie doesn't strike me as one. Living along the Atlantic coast of New Brunswick, Canada, he is soft-spoken and reserved. Though his antics have garnered a lot of attention, Doubleagent's self-imposed exile isn't some abstract way of gaining attention. "I do it for myself," Johnnie says plainly.
In that vein, Johnnie won't even reveal how many hours he's invested. To reach level 90 took him 175 days worth of play time, but beyond that he won't say—though it's easy to run the numbers and guess somewhere just under a year total. "I get a lot of negativity when I give that kind of information," he says, laughing awkwardly. "A lot of people view it as a waste of time, so I really don't want to say what my play time is beyond what I've already announced. The community has been mostly positive, but it's the negative that sticks with you more."
Look at any of the threads mentioning him on World of Warcraft's subreddit, and you'll find a load of bemused and often critical comments. "Gotta say, he was about as excited as I am," writes another. "I kinda feel like this whole gimmick has served its worth the last [expansion]."
"This is one of the most weirdest things to me," writes one user. "For us it's entertainment. But for him to just sit there and do that stupid shit. I can't imagine how boring that must be."
Calling it entertainment, however, is a bit of a stretch. Instead of celebrating each milestone, Johnnie typically sends out a simple tweet or uploads a rough, unedited video. In the video showing him reach 110, he sits for a few moments and then, seemingly unsure of what to do now, sets out to gather more ore. There's no fanfare and no excitement, just a man staring with a blank expression at his computer monitor. He tells me he got permission from work to come home to finish that last stretch of grinding. Once he reached 110, he uploaded the video and returned to work like nothing happened.
It's only natural that some would want to criticize, but Johnnie feels it isn't fair. While the amount of time he's spent in the last four years is staggering, it hasn't been spent wholly focused on watching Doubleagent running from one flower to the next. At this point, he says the routine is almost entirely muscle memory, so he spends that time catching up on Netflix shows and movies he'd be watching anyway. To him, it's no different than knitting or any other passive hobby people invest in. Except, instead of a closet full of wool hats and mittens, Johnnie has the only max-level neutral character in all of Warcraft. "I definitely don't regret it," he says. "It's something that I'm glad that I did. It was something different and it was a goal I set for myself and I went ahead and did it."
No right way to play
Still, the journey hasn't always been easy—and not just because of the massive grind. Early in his life, Doubleagent raised a lot of eyebrows from other players who saw his high level and thought he must've been hacking. Most players leave the island and never return after level 10. "People were putting in [support] tickets and reporting me," he says. "I think they assumed I had gotten to the island in some way. They probably didn't realize that I had actually leveled without hacking myself onto the island."
Even Blizzard's moderators didn't know how to handle Doubleagent at first. One told him what he was doing was fine, while another told him he needed to pick a faction and leave the island for good. Johnnie filed a petition and Blizzard ultimately decided he could stay.
Since then, the company has embraced Johnnie's bizarre way of playing. With the release of Legion in August, order halls gave each class a place to call home in-between excursions to save Azeroth from the demon invasions. When the first monks stepped foot inside of their revamped version of the Wandering Isle during Legion's beta, they found an NPC named Venerable Shaman wandering around gathering herbs and ores wearing the same gear as Doubleagent. Even better, as Johnnie grinded his way up from level 100 to 110, his NPC doppleganger followed suit.
Blizzard never contacted Johnnie to let him know, so being immortalized in World of Warcraft came as a big surprise. While in truth it's just a subtle joke, he sees it as Blizzard finally validating the way he chooses to play its game. Like Star Wars fans lamenting that there's no middle ground between the light and dark sides of the force, Doubleagent has sat awkwardly between the Horde and Alliance. "It's nice that they showed that being neutral is a choice," Johnnie says. "It might not be the fastest way to level, but it's an option."
Now that he's level 110, Doubleagent's journey has come to an end. Johnnie is currently turning his grinding efforts towards obtaining the Red Winter Hat from Warcraft's christmas holiday, Winter Veil. Since most headwear is acquired in higher level zones, it's the only hat Johnnie can acquire while staying on the island. Once that's done, he'll retire Doubleagent for a few years until the next expansion is released and the level cap is once again raised. And just like the coming of spring or any other force of nature, you can bet Doubleagent will be back out on the Wandering Isle, picking flowers and mining ore, ignorant to whatever new dire circumstance faces Azeroth.
I am a sucker for wow expansions. I am going to play this one for a while. I played a few hours in the content they created for the pre-launch and it was a lot of fun.
It looks like they have kept the parts of the last expansion I really enjoyed and got rid of the parts that were not as enjoyable (mainly related to leveling your artifact). I am going to try a new class this time, a disc priest. Yes still a healer but one who heals by doing dps. If I can't master that mechanic then I can always fall back on the traditional healing of a holy priest and use the disc talents for solo play.
I used to do Atonement Disc back in the day. Was a really fun mechanic. I could do about half the damage of a dedicated DPS while getting almost as much healing as a proper healer, since Disc had amazing mitigation CDs you could rotate throughout the fight.
Yeah, that is why I want to try it. It is a bit boring spending my whole time just watching health bars.
I've got a druid tank, warrior tank, and pally tank at 110 currently waiting to dig into the new expansion. I've also been mucking about with a monk healer and a disc priest. Both make for a nice change of pace.
Played the expansion for a bit tonight. My initial impression is the opening sequences are well designed. Also a pleasant surprise is that starting area I picked is not flooded with players.
I still have to play through Legion. :ph34r:
The last time I dabbled with the game was in 2008. And I did play it a bit in 2005/2006, but quit level 40-something because it became a bit grindy. "What do you mean, I should 'farm' Scarlet Monastery?"
These days, I think you get to max level in like two days.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 14, 2018, 02:19:01 AM
These days, I think you get to max level in like two days.
Yeah, I was mentioning that elsewhere the other day. At launch, WoW was very much a social experience where grouping and playing with others was a core features, and many people's social online life revolved around it. Of course, social media were in their infancy in those days. A guild was their online "home" for many players of the day, I suppose.
I feel MMOs in general have moved away from that concept and more to a "shared world" experience where you can enjoy most contents solo while running into other players during gameplay, and just temporarily group with people when you have to/want to, and guilds are far less integral to the core experience than they used to be.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 14, 2018, 02:19:01 AM
These days, I think you get to max level in like two days.
They changed up the leveling experience a lot during Legion and especially the end of Legion. It isn't to Vanilla levels of difficulty, but it is a lot harder. Heirlooms got some serious levels of nerfing a while ago and no longer make everything a cakewalk. Dungeons require some skill again and not just a race to the finish. Also, you can stay in one zone a lot longer and the quests/rewards level up in difficulty/reward as you do. When you hit 60, you can now choose to go to Northrend or Outland for content and 80-90 is Pandaria or Cataclysm for content. It makes it a lot better in my opinion.
Quote from: Solmyr on August 14, 2018, 02:19:01 AM
These days, I think you get to max level in like two days.
or 4 hours if you really try.
Trying is for nerds. :yuk:
So i have played enough to gain one level in the expansion, so not much. And I already regret getting it. It is so easy that it is very boring. It is really just an exercise in waiting to push the next button to kill the mob/mobs in front of you and move on to the next group to fill whatever quest quota you are working on at the time. No worrying about the pull because even if you pull the whole room it will just take a little longer to kill them all. No need to group because even the quests that suggest grouping are easily done solo. In fact on my last three person quest my health bar did not even move when I did it solo because of the automatic shielding I get as a class perk.
Why did they make the game so easy?
So people can solo play a mmo.
I don't understand the attraction
I re-subbed last month, don't know for how long. I really do miss the old more social aspects of the game.
I think the main culprit is the "looking for dungeon" tool or whatever they call it. Before, you had to actually make friends to go dungeoning, or advertise in Ironforge for a few minutes to get a group together. Now you just queue up, do the run and that's it. Lots of times there is absolutely no communication within the group, and it disbands as soon as it's over without a word. Lame.
The crowd control options are now useless, as they nerfed the difficulty so hard that most dungeon runs are DPS fests with the whole thing taking 30 minutes tops. Remember when you had to mark targets in the old Scholomance runs? "Don't break the sheep!" "I'll sap this one" Fights were way more engaging than pressing the same 3 buttons repeatedly.
Anyways. We'll see what they do with WoW Classic.
Yeah the looking for dungeon thing drove me away from the game eight years ago. Terrible addition.
I guess it would be alright if the mechanics of the game were super compelling that I didn't need the social aspect. But I felt like that vanilla WoW already was pretty easy outside of the raids and a few of the high level dungeons. Making it even easier just seems to make it barely a game at all.
They feed the addictive side by laying on a zillion things to collect like barely useful professions, mounts, pets, looks instead of improving gameplay.
I remember one of my best gaming memories, on an early Molten Core run back in vanilla. There were packs of big ass dogs to kill before the 1st boss, Lucifron I think. Each tank would concentrate on a dog until the DPS could all bring them down around the same time. One warrior screwed up and died 10 seconds in, I rushed in to tank 2 dogs, managed it and avoided a raid wipe. The game now can't really provide the same kind of challenge, since everything is nerfed into the ground.
When everything is EZ mode, nothing is rewarding :(
Exactly, it was a real sense of accomplishment to react to things that went wrong and to do something that prevented the raid from wiping. Using the right CD at just the right time in just the right circumstance to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
So run heroic, mythic, or mythic with affixes for dungeons and raids. That way you can go up hill both ways again, old timers. :lol:
It seems those are really just about how fast you can make the run
Plus, pick-up groups were a mixed bag back in Vanilla. You could get an awful healer or an idiot hunter pulling everything, someone ninja-ing the loot (remember /roll 1-100?).
Adding the LFG tool means all groups are now pick up groups. WoW could have went the git gud route and kept the difficulty up. But since pick up groups suck half the time, they instead nerfed the difficulty to stop the bitching. There's even a LFRaid thing now :rolleyes:
I'm just saying. It's a MMORPG with a lot of the MM missing.
Iirc they didn't dumb it down until after the lfg dungeon tool was introduced. I can remember waiting for Katmai to log on with his tank before doing the daily dungeon runs because a pug tank was too painful. Plus he was a great tank :)
On the other hand, LFG tools in these games are the only way I get to experience that content nowadays. None of my friends play MMOs, and I don't play regularly enough to be in a guild. So I'm happy there are LFG tools.
With battle.net groupings maybe we should make a Languish group? Alliances might still be a challenge. :hmm:
Quote from: Zoupa on August 16, 2018, 08:18:37 AMRemember when you had to mark targets in the old Scholomance runs? "Don't break the sheep!" "I'll sap this one" Fights were way more engaging than pressing the same 3 buttons repeatedly.
You don't have to go that far. We were marking shit in Grim Batol.
Personally I can see the appeal of solo PvE: I used to play with my IRL mates. Most have moved on. They have kids, wives, etc. LFG exists, sure, but it's often toxic unless you overgear content (or its nerfed by default).
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 16, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
Plus he was a great tank :)
Careful, he might get a big head.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 17, 2018, 12:32:23 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 16, 2018, 10:23:39 PM
Plus he was a great tank :)
Careful, he might get a big head.
Meh, he had lots of people telling him the same thing back in the day, if his head did not pop then it is unlikely to do so now.
I enjoy the game, but I am not as much wowed (no pun intended) or hyped as I was for Legion or the previous expansions. The zones are gorgeous but I don't know how long I will stick.
Oh, you were the guy hyped for Legion? :P
I did my first dungeon runs with my disc healer. My first run was chaotic as hell, healing and dpsing to heal was difficult but it was a fun change. Targeting for dps was my biggest problem. But even with having no experience and undoubtedly making many mistakes only one dps who was standing on the flames died on the run. I did some research and realized I need target of target macros on my dps skills so I didn't have to waste time tabbing to get a proper target. That made all the difference and on the second run I was the third highest dps and because I kept atonement up, I healed the run with ease.
So I am a bit conflicted, this new (to me) mechanic is fun to learn. But I think it goes to show how easy these dungeon runs are that someone who has basically has no skill can still make it through. :D
I ran my first BfA dungeon yesterday as a tank to finish off the Drustvar zone campaign and... it was pretty damn easy. Granted I ran it on normal and was over geared, but the dramatic cut in threat production wasn't as bad as I had feared it would be. I'm still enjoying the new content and plan on working on a disc priest eventually as I had fun with that spec killing time at the end of Legion. I honestly think that the old dungeons during leveling are harder than the new content right now. Which seems... silly.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 20, 2018, 01:56:36 PM
the dramatic cut in threat production wasn't as bad as I had feared it would be.
Yeah, I saw no problems with the two tanks on my first runs, other than one dps who got out ahead of the tank in one encounter. I didn't heal him until he got right down to near death, he didn't try that again. It is the old story of healers teaching dps to make it easier on the tanks. :)
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 20, 2018, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 20, 2018, 01:56:36 PM
the dramatic cut in threat production wasn't as bad as I had feared it would be.
Yeah, I saw no problems with the two tanks on my first runs, other than one dps who got out ahead of the tank in one encounter. I didn't heal him until he got right down to near death, he didn't try that again. It is the old story of healers teaching dps to make it easier on the tanks. :)
As a long time tank... :hug:
I am at the point in the expansion when I also left legion. The questing was fun and well designed, the initial dungeons on heroic and mythic were fun - even though I had low level gear. But now all the good players have moved on to their own groups and I am left with pugs. Even though my gear is now much better, dungeons are harder because more often than not I get stuck with dps who don't interrupt, just attack and don't do the mechanics of the fight, and/or pull groups themselves if they think the tank isn't pulling fast enough. And then they blame the tank or the healer for the inevitable wipe. It would be better if I had an active guild, but then there is the problem of finding a time when everyone can get together, and so I think it is time to leave again. The times a good pug group comes around almost makes it worth still playing. But the aggravation of the rest tips the balance.
I just did my first Arathi and then my first Warfront. Warfront was pretty intense, took a little while but I think part of that was a first time there for a lot of players like me. Fun time though and I got a couple pieces of great gear.
So is anyone else vaguely interested in the upcoming WoW Classic? :unsure:
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 02:25:28 PM
So is anyone else vaguely interested in the upcoming WoW Classic? :unsure:
Oh man I am so excited to play it. But I can't. I don't have that kind of time anymore.
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2019, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 02:25:28 PM
So is anyone else vaguely interested in the upcoming WoW Classic? :unsure:
Oh man I am so excited to play it. But I can't. I don't have that kind of time anymore.
I dunno. I mean I'm not going to hit level 60 and go raiding. But it could be fun to go with nostalgia and just very slowly (this is vanilla wow after all) level up a character after the kids go to bed. Maybe if I get crazy I'll try running a 5-man dungeon. :o
Or I'll play it for a week, realize that you can't go back in time, and quit.
My sister and her husband plan on playing that. I'm not feeling the urge.
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 02:41:29 PM
Or I'll play it for a week, realize that you can't go back in time, and quit.
I do not understand this. It is not like Vanilla WoW is some kind of artifact from your childhood. You get all nostalgic thinking about 15 years ago? Hell to me that feels like yesterday.
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2019, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 02:41:29 PM
Or I'll play it for a week, realize that you can't go back in time, and quit.
I do not understand this. It is not like Vanilla WoW is some kind of artifact from your childhood. You get all nostalgic thinking about 15 years ago? Hell to me that feels like yesterday.
I'm nostalgic for a time before I had kids, and had lots of time to play MMOs. That feels like ages ago.
Vanilla WoW really was pretty crap in the quality of life area. I have no idea why anyone would want to torture themselves with it.
Quote from: Solmyr on May 22, 2019, 03:29:22 PM
Vanilla WoW really was pretty crap in the quality of life area. I have no idea why anyone would want to torture themselves with it.
Well I disagree completely. I thought it was a great mix between challenge and convenience.
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2019, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 02:41:29 PM
Or I'll play it for a week, realize that you can't go back in time, and quit.
I do not understand this. It is not like Vanilla WoW is some kind of artifact from your childhood. You get all nostalgic thinking about 15 years ago? Hell to me that feels like yesterday.
I'm nostalgic for a time before I had kids, and had lots of time to play MMOs. That feels like ages ago.
Ah. Yeah, yeah I totally feel you there.
I run into that problem all the time now. I will get super excited to play some game. Make an effort for a few days and then realize "oh right, I cannot enjoy these things like I used to"
Having to go days, and maybe weeks, between extended play sessions kind of kills it. Hence while I really enjoyed WoW and would love to go back to it, it is just not happening.
Quote from: Solmyr on May 22, 2019, 03:29:22 PM
Vanilla WoW really was pretty crap in the quality of life area. I have no idea why anyone would want to torture themselves with it.
What sort of "quality of life" issues are you thinking of?
"Classic WoW" is built on the 1.12 patch, right before TBC, so some of the most egregious issues were already taken care of. But some of the "quality of life" issues are what make me think of the game fondly - like that travelling actually took a long time.
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 02:25:28 PM
So is anyone else vaguely interested in the upcoming WoW Classic? :unsure:
There's plenty enough for me to do in the non-Classic game so no I'm not sure if I'll get into Classic WoW. I'm playing a lot, being retired and just working some part time, so I have more time to play.
One good thing about Classic is that I remember how the instances and raids were back then and it could be good to get into that again.
Been playing the beta, fuck i forgot how much i hated running around without a mount.
Quote from: katmai on May 22, 2019, 08:39:45 PM
Been playing the beta, fuck i forgot how much i hated running around without a mount.
You know, I kept forgetting to message you on Facebook if that was actually you that I saw online or if your account got hacked. Good to know it was actually you! :Embarrass:
I didn't realize Languish types were still playing WoW!
I don't suppose there's any interest in recreating old times with a bunch of Languishites rolling on a new classic server in August? Probably not.
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 11:51:25 PM
I didn't realize Languish types were still playing WoW!
I don't suppose there's any interest in recreating old times with a bunch of Languishites rolling on a new classic server in August? Probably not.
If I did not have to pay a sub fee I would have loved just to pop in from time to time and hang out.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on May 22, 2019, 11:39:03 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 22, 2019, 08:39:45 PM
Been playing the beta, fuck i forgot how much i hated running around without a mount.
You know, I kept forgetting to message you on Facebook if that was actually you that I saw online or if your account got hacked. Good to know it was actually you! :Embarrass:
Yeah my current job has me working nights at home downloading media from footage shot each day, means a lot of free time so decided to re up and checking BFA.
Quote from: Barrister on May 22, 2019, 11:51:25 PM
I didn't realize Languish types were still playing WoW!
I don't suppose there's any interest in recreating old times with a bunch of Languishites rolling on a new classic server in August? Probably not.
I don't remember how far we got, but I really enjoyed that time we all created first level characters, and then only played once a week on them together. That was awesome.
At least, my memory of it was that it was awesome. Which is what matters.
I have no problems leaving my WoW days in the past. It was a lot of fun and almost impossible to recreate the experience until I hit something like retirement.
I do wish I had something similar in a PC strategy game to catch a multiplayer experience again, though. I was hoping that it'd be Imperator, but...seems I'll be waiting a bit on that.
I would play with you guys, extend the nostalgia trip to that too, but I think I can't really do playing 12am-3 am anymore.
The hard part, will be that back in WoW Vanilla you did not get really anywhere in 1-2 hour game sessions.
Quote from: Habbaku on May 23, 2019, 11:18:44 AM
It was a lot of fun and almost impossible to recreate the experience until I hit something like retirement.
Yep. Hopefully something better than Classic WoW will have been released by 2047 though.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 23, 2019, 11:20:01 AM
The hard part, will be that back in WoW Vanilla you did not get really anywhere in 1-2 hour game sessions.
Yeah, I think this is the key here. Back then, I would frequently play for 8 hour sessions without an issue. I can't do that any more.
Yeah, these days I play computers games maybe once a week for maybe an hour or so. Not exactly WoW vanilla viable. I remember waiting that long for a 20 man raid to form and get into position. I actually regret all the time wasted on that game.
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 23, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
I actually regret all the time wasted on that game.
Yeah. I loved playing Everquest and Dark Age of Camelot and World of Warcraft but damn that was a ton of valuable time of my youth gone. If I suddenly found myself back in 1999 I wouldn't do it again. I still wish I could somehow spend hours and hours playing classic WoW while doing everything else at the same time.
Yeah I don't expect it will last past a month but I still am going to check it out for nostalgia's sake.
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2019, 11:59:45 AM
Yeah I don't expect it will last past a month but I still am going to check it out for nostalgia's sake.
I was doing some reading - Blizzard has said they expect a lot of people to check it our, roll some characters, then never come back. Apparently they're going to make heavy use of sharding (having multiple instances of the same zone) going at first, with the expectation that after a little while it won't be needed any longer.
Quote from: Barrister on May 23, 2019, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: Tamas on May 23, 2019, 11:59:45 AM
Yeah I don't expect it will last past a month but I still am going to check it out for nostalgia's sake.
I was doing some reading - Blizzard has said they expect a lot of people to check it our, roll some characters, then never come back. Apparently they're going to make heavy use of sharding (having multiple instances of the same zone) going at first, with the expectation that after a little while it won't be needed any longer.
To be fair that is also what most people do to all of their recent games.
This is why my game-buying has increased significantly. I only buy what I intend on playing immediately, now. Saves a lot of money. :P
Hmm... I was able to get into my old Blizzard account.
But going through this thread, I haven't regularly played since 2009. I bought, played around with, but didn't do much with Cataclysm and Pandaria, which means I haven't played at all since, oh, 2012.
So I fired downloaded WoW last night. Man - downloads on my fibre connection sure are faster than on dial-up back in the day, where I remember on patch days it would be faster for me to drive 30 minutes into work to download a patch, then drive 30 minutes back.
Some of my characters are still there, but not my highest level toon. Not super worried because I'm not paying for an account - maybe that's why?
But you can still do levels 1-20 for free. So I fired up a new toon on Lightninghoof. Looks like they re-did the starting zones - maybe for Cataclysm? In the human starting zone, instead of Defias and kobolds there are some Orcs to fight.
Levelling felt like it went faster than before, but most noticeable was there never felt like there was any danger. Before you'd at least have to worry about pulling too many mobs, but now you have to be almost on top of them before you get aggro. And in fights my health bar hardly even moved.
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2019, 11:09:04 AM
Levelling felt like it went faster than before, but most noticeable was there never felt like there was any danger. Before you'd at least have to worry about pulling too many mobs, but now you have to be almost on top of them before you get aggro. And in fights my health bar hardly even moved.
This was my experience as well when I tried about a year ago.
I'd recommend Elder Scrolls Online as a replacement. You have to buy it once but then the non-subscriber content doesn't feel limited at all. It isn't exactly hard either, but excessive carelessness can still be bad.
What I have heard is that the game pretty much plays itself until the end game where it can get really challenging in the super duper mythic content, but there is not exactly a smooth learning curve to get there. You go from barely having to do anything to having to know your class inside and out with little transition between.
But I haven't played it...just what I have heard.
Edit: That was for BFA WoW not ESO.
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2019, 11:09:04 AM
Some of my characters are still there, but not my highest level toon. Not super worried because I'm not paying for an account - maybe that's why?
It still should show your high level characters iirc
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But you can still do levels 1-20 for free. So I fired up a new toon on Lightninghoof. Looks like they re-did the starting zones - maybe for Cataclysm? In the human starting zone, instead of Defias and kobolds there are some Orcs to fight.
Levelling felt like it went faster than before, but most noticeable was there never felt like there was any danger. Before you'd at least have to worry about pulling too many mobs, but now you have to be almost on top of them before you get aggro. And in fights my health bar hardly even moved.
Yep sounds about right.
Quote from: Valmy on May 28, 2019, 11:34:12 AM
What I have heard is that the game pretty much plays itself until the end game where it can get really challenging in the super duper mythic content, but there is not exactly a smooth learning curve to get there. You go from barely having to do anything to having to know your class inside and out with little transition between.
But I haven't played it...just what I have heard.
Edit: That was for BFA WoW not ESO.
I always disliked the BUT THE ENDGAME crowd. As they say, if its all about the destination, take an effin' flight. There were so many people who looked at the levels below max as the setup time for the "proper game". I never undestood that. For me the game ended there. (well, way before, but you know what I mean).
Quote from: Tamas on May 28, 2019, 11:31:09 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2019, 11:09:04 AM
Levelling felt like it went faster than before, but most noticeable was there never felt like there was any danger. Before you'd at least have to worry about pulling too many mobs, but now you have to be almost on top of them before you get aggro. And in fights my health bar hardly even moved.
This was my experience as well when I tried about a year ago.
I'd recommend Elder Scrolls Online as a replacement. You have to buy it once but then the non-subscriber content doesn't feel limited at all. It isn't exactly hard either, but excessive carelessness can still be bad.
I'm not looking for a new MMO to commit my life to, but I am interested in WoW Classic in August. Just thought I would poke around with the current state of the game.
Quote from: katmai on May 28, 2019, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 28, 2019, 11:09:04 AM
Some of my characters are still there, but not my highest level toon. Not super worried because I'm not paying for an account - maybe that's why?
It still should show your high level characters iirc
I think I figured it out. On an unpaid account, it doesn't show your characters on a full realm. If you do go into that realm anyways your toons are still there.
Like I said I really don't want to go back to play any of them, just somehow it would have pissed me off if they would have been erased somehow.
Been playing around with free WoW for a bit. Man, the fact that everything scales to your level is kind of annoying. What's the point of levelling up if the mobs just get more powerful right alongside you?
Anyways, my toon is now just about at the level cap. You can keep playing at level 20, but no further progress. Or I could re-sub.
Which I wasn't considering... but now I see that WoW classic is doing a stress test today. Anyone with an active account can play. And I'm a little bit tempted... :unsure:
Don't. It won't be like it was.
Quote from: Zoupa on June 19, 2019, 04:51:10 PM
Don't. It won't be like it was.
How do you figure?
Quote from: Barrister on June 19, 2019, 04:52:53 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 19, 2019, 04:51:10 PM
Don't. It won't be like it was.
How do you figure?
Maybe he played on private servers? You have a story to share?
Anyway sure it will not be exactly like 2005. It will have fewer bugs and run better on modern computers.
Quote from: Valmy on June 21, 2019, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 19, 2019, 04:52:53 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 19, 2019, 04:51:10 PM
Don't. It won't be like it was.
How do you figure?
Maybe he played on private servers? You have a story to share?
Anyway sure it will not be exactly like 2005. It will have fewer bugs and run better on modern computers.
I think what he was getting at is that a WoW vanilla server needs a large numbers of players to make it viable. Later iterations made solo play viable but in the vanilla build you need to form a group for a number of the open world quests not to mention all the dungeon instances you need to do while leveling. Add to that the slow leveling progression and you need a significant number of players at all levels to make the experience enjoyable.
I might have quibbles with your characterization there but, presuming it is accurate, how is that different from 2005?
Quote from: Valmy on June 21, 2019, 12:13:09 PM
I might have quibbles with your characterization there but, presuming it is accurate, how is that different from 2005?
It is not.
We are tho.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 21, 2019, 12:15:04 PM
It is not.
We are tho.
True. It will not be the same. But does a good gaming experience require it to be the same?
Quote from: Valmy on June 21, 2019, 12:13:09 PM
I might have quibbles with your characterization there but, presuming it is accurate, how is that different from 2005?
Well, on the server I played on it had a high population. So high in fact it was sometime hard to log on. Is that the case now?
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 21, 2019, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 21, 2019, 12:13:09 PM
I might have quibbles with your characterization there but, presuming it is accurate, how is that different from 2005?
Well, on the server I played on it had a high population. So high in fact it was sometime hard to log on. Is that the case now?
Ah. I see where you were coming from. The stress test is probably a waste of time? I would agree. I am too old to work for free anymore.
They are supposed to be using super fancy modern servers so maybe those problems have been addressed. So there is that.
So I went out and bought a month-s subscription in order to play the stress-test the last two nights.
At first I rolled an orc warrior. The starting zone was CRAZY, with intense competition for each mob as soon as they spawned. It was, frankly, impossible to do anything.
So I re-rolled a tauren shaman. Because frankly the tauren starting zone sucks, there were a lot less players and I was able to do some things. There were still other people though, so it was reasonably lively.
You do realize that there have been a lot of little quality of life improvements that have been made. I like that the map doesn't spoon-feed you where your quest objectives are, but not even quest-givers show up on your mini-map. I was mousing over vendors looking for the little anvil to show me who could repair - that doesn't exist either.
But I'll definitely give the game a go again in August. It was a fun time. And if server populations crash and fall, so be it - it's only a game.
I look forward to reading AARs, B.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 25, 2019, 06:04:01 AM
I look forward to reading AARs, B.
I don't know there's much need for AARs - it's WoW. You've already played it before.
Instead you should come and gibe it a try yourself in August!
I think I will.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 26, 2019, 10:38:50 AM
I think I will.
You seem to be on battle net enough as it is <_<
Quote from: katmai on June 26, 2019, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 26, 2019, 10:38:50 AM
I think I will.
You seem to be on battle net enough as it is <_<
It's an app, I leave it open. Just like Steam or Uplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyCPtrTxU50
Blizzard is not going to see one more cent from me. And if you still pay them for their games, you should feel bad.
Classic is out in two weeks or so. If you have an active sub you can even reserve character names now. Servers names and types have also been announced.
Anyone out there interested in playing classic WoW with me? I can be convinced to go any server, horde or alliance, if there are other people there.
If it's just me though I'm probably going Alliance on the one RP-PVP server - Grobbulous.
On WoW classic do they let you play pandas, blood elves, death knights, etc?
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 13, 2019, 12:20:21 AM
On WoW classic do they let you play pandas, blood elves, death knights, etc?
what part of classic don't you understand? :P :rolleyes:
Quote from: Barrister on August 12, 2019, 11:17:26 PM
Classic is out in two weeks or so. If you have an active sub you can even reserve character names now. Servers names and types have also been announced.
Anyone out there interested in playing classic WoW with me? I can be convinced to go any server, horde or alliance, if there are other people there.
If it's just me though I'm probably going Alliance on the one RP-PVP server - Grobbulous.
I reserved a name on Bloodsail Buccaneers (RP). I could be tempted into going to Grobbulous though. Maybe. My memories of pvp and rp-pvp servers in classic aren't overly rosy.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 13, 2019, 03:15:02 AM
Quote from: Barrister on August 12, 2019, 11:17:26 PM
Classic is out in two weeks or so. If you have an active sub you can even reserve character names now. Servers names and types have also been announced.
Anyone out there interested in playing classic WoW with me? I can be convinced to go any server, horde or alliance, if there are other people there.
If it's just me though I'm probably going Alliance on the one RP-PVP server - Grobbulous.
I reserved a name on Bloodsail Buccaneers (RP). I could be tempted into going to Grobbulous though. Maybe. My memories of pvp and rp-pvp servers in classic aren't overly rosy.
Horde or alliance?
I didn't mind PvP too much: as long as you were willing to log out for 5-10 minutes if a ganker was corpse camping you. But there were some cool PvP encounters out while exploring from time to time.
Butlike I said - I'm willing to go anywhere I might know people.
Horde. Tauren Hunter. I miss the bonding aspect of pets from Classic. Having to train them, feed them, keep them alive, teach them skills, and what not. I probably need to delve a bit deeper into the classes as they stand, but I think Hunter or Warrior will be my class of choice.
I think I'll go with a Tauren druid. That was my favourite character, went with it the furthest (level 32 :P )
What makes you think you'll play the game this time?
I brought a Night Elf Warrior Tank and Night Elf Shadow Priest both to level 40-something and got bored around Scarlet Monastery. I did roll a bunch of alts that I took to level 20-something, but the game was far too grindy for me.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 23, 2019, 05:47:59 AM
What makes you think you'll play the game this time?
I played a lot of characters back in the day. Sure, I got bored with them/switched temporarily to other games, but I still had a good time and have fond memories. I've always disliked the attitude that the "real game" of any MMO starts after max level. That sounds like effin' work.
So I'll be playing for nostalgia. And no doubt after two months tops I'll be done with it. But I will have enjoyed myself. Isn't that the point?
I knew this game released (or re-released, I guess) on Tuesday, August 27. But I didn't realize it was midnight Europe in August 27.
Which means it goes live at 4pm MDT.
So I did pre-roll a orc warrior on Bloodsail Buccaneers. BA, you should send me a friend request tonight if you're playing.
I am not sure how far back they are rolling the clock - are Shamans Horde only again and are they going to be the world beaters they once were. Those were some some times in open world pvp :)
Here's what'll happen: 90% of the people will play this for a week or two to relive some old memories of first playing the game and move on; not least because there's probably a lot of quality of life features missing, and the game has a much higher time requirement - a lot of the people who played this for hours on end when they were younger now have jobs and families.
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 26, 2019, 12:59:10 PM
I am not sure how far back they are rolling the clock - are Shamans Horde only again and are they going to be the world beaters they once were. Those were some some times in open world pvp :)
Shamans are indeed Horde only. They're going back to the 1.12 patch (which went live right before TBC), although certain end-game content is going to be released in stages (not that I'll ever play through any of that).
Quote from: Barrister on August 26, 2019, 12:53:18 PM
BA, you should send me a friend request tonight if you're playing.
Temeter#1520 is my b-tag handle.
My character list so far is:
Bloodsail BuccaneersWeetamoo (Tauren Druid)
Metacom (Tauren Hunter)
Canonchet (Tauren Warrior)
Voyen (Forsaken Priest)
Amélie (Human Paladin)
GrobbulusRennard (Human Paladin)
Ah queues... how I've missed you...
I have an estimate of only 30 minutes. Apparently some PVP realms have waits of hours.
40 minutes queue for me. I'm tempted to not even bother yet. I have a feeling it is going to be so jammed it'll be impossible to do anything. We shall see. I've already burned half the time...
Hehe. The more things change...
It was fun. :)
The tech they have which creates separate instances means that the intro zone was crowded, but not unbearable. It was fun to be on a brand new server. I went into Ogrimmar on some quest... and the AH and bank were completely empty. Whereas Durotar chat was lively AF.
Only made it to level 8, and I'm sure the masses will soon pass me by, but that was definitely fun.
Got to 7 on a warrior and a shaman. I forgot how truly terrible warriors are to solo in Vanilla. :(
Quote from: Barrister on August 26, 2019, 07:58:54 PM
Ah queues... how I've missed you...
I have an estimate of only 30 minutes. Apparently some PVP realms have waits of hours.
So they really went for that authentic experience...
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 27, 2019, 02:07:07 AM
Got to 7 on a warrior and a shaman. I forgot how truly terrible warriors are to solo in Vanilla. :(
I'm levelling a warrior. They aren't terrible to solo - the survivability helps. They're just... slow.
I leveled to 60 on a protection warrior. It was incredibly slow in Vanilla. Compared to the warlock I played afterwards, it was especially obvious.
Quote from: Zoupa on August 27, 2019, 11:26:38 AM
I leveled to 60 on a protection warrior. It was incredibly slow in Vanilla. Compared to the warlock I played afterwards, it was especially obvious.
Yup my highest level toon was a prot warrior that I levelled right to 60 in vanilla. I sidelined that toon for a mage the day TBC came out, and yes the difference in speed was pretty obvious.
Up to 10 on my shaman and I have a full complement of bags! Hooray for the amazing people going around making bags for no cost other than the mats. :)
Quote from: Zoupa on August 27, 2019, 11:26:38 AM
I leveled to 60 on a protection warrior. It was incredibly slow in Vanilla. Compared to the warlock I played afterwards, it was especially obvious.
Yeah me to. I am glad it was the first one I ever leveled. I had previously played Daoc and EQ so it seemed really fast to me :P
Ignorance helps.
And on Bloodsail Buccaneers, it shows a queue of under 1000. Way better than yesterday.
Quote from: Valmy on August 27, 2019, 06:12:12 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 27, 2019, 11:26:38 AM
I leveled to 60 on a protection warrior. It was incredibly slow in Vanilla. Compared to the warlock I played afterwards, it was especially obvious.
Yeah me to. I am glad it was the first one I ever leveled. I had previously played Daoc and EQ so it seemed really fast to me :P
Ignorance helps.
Man. Coming from EQ everything seemed so much easier and less dangerous. Now coming from retail, its the exact opposite. Oh how things change! :lol:
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 27, 2019, 12:51:33 PM
Up to 10 on my shaman and I have a full complement of bags! Hooray for the amazing people going around making bags for no cost other than the mats. :)
How many slots?
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 27, 2019, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 27, 2019, 12:51:33 PM
Up to 10 on my shaman and I have a full complement of bags! Hooray for the amazing people going around making bags for no cost other than the mats. :)
How many slots?
6 slot linen bags. The servers have been open for roughly 24 hours. Let's not go crazy with expectations. ;)
Played for at least a couple of hours the last three nights (which pace won't be sustainable), and made it up to the grand old level of... 10. I am still definitely having fun with it though. There's still a lot of people at my level in the starting zones, and there's lots of spontaneous grouping om order to complete quests.
The need to group up to complete various tasks is the thing I missed most. The latest versions of the game only required grouping for the end game content and even then it was a speed run. However, I want to devote the time that was required to pay it that way again and I shouldn't have spent the time back in the day either.
I'm not getting the sudden classic WOW trend...
So they've re-released WOW...Without all the expansions...And this is good?
Nostalgia.
Quote from: Tyr on September 02, 2019, 12:10:34 PM
I'm not getting the sudden classic WOW trend...
So they've re-released WOW...Without all the expansions...And this is good?
Basically, people want to feel 15 or 20 years old again.
I did not play WoW until Cata, so I might pop in for a couple months as someone that visits a museum would. But only once the servers are down to sane populations.
It's pretty sane & while not empty. You should try it now.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 02, 2019, 01:13:54 PM
Nostalgia.
Well I disagree. I think there were great features of that game that they removed later on. But it is an endless arguement. I mean I feel no particular nostalgia for what I did in my late 20s which was when I played WoW, but at least in my opinion it totally went to shit in WoTLK. I get why people would prefer the non-dogshit version.
I don't have that kind of time to play a game like this these days though.
I think WoW had a lot of incremental changes that were each reasonable and rational attempts to cater to their customers, but the sum of which radically decreased the overall interest of the game.
I like exploring the landscape in MMOs, so the current trend for making the landscape faceroll-easy buggers the games up for me. I got a sub for WOW classic and I'm enjoying it. A lot of the quests are really difficult to do solo, so it is a joy when an ad hoc group is formed. Retail wow, however, since the levelling is such an irrelevant chore, why not just have a button to get you to level cap (and another to press to make you fully geared)?
Yeah, Classic is very hard compared to retail. That is of course because retail appears to have been devolved into a pointless button-pusher, even compared to average MMO levels of "challenge".
GW2 has it both ways. Leveling and exploring the old fashion way still takes some time, or it's easy enough to get tokens that pop you to level cap if you want to.
The biggest complaint I have on that score is that they haven't been adding new lower level content. All of the new content is for max level.
Quote from: frunk on September 03, 2019, 07:22:04 AM
GW2 has it both ways. Leveling and exploring the old fashion way still takes some time, or it's easy enough to get tokens that pop you to level cap if you want to.
The biggest complaint I have on that score is that they haven't been adding new lower level content. All of the new content is for max level.
Well Classic WoW is unlikely to be adding any new content of any kind. So there is that.
If anyone is thinking of coming back, let me know! Blizzard is adding a new recruit a friend tool that gives rewards when friends add game time for either new players or players who haven't added game time to their accounts in 2 years or more. :)
I'm surprised that 2 weeks in and the world still feels very busy to me - lots of time waiting for mobs to spawn in Westfall. So you group up to do several of them but that cuts into your XPs so now (at level 16) almost all of my quests are over my level. I'm probably too low-level to run the first instance (Deadmines). I went over to Loch Modan but surprisingly didn't find as many quests as I would've expected, and ran into the same problem of being under-levelled for everything that's left.
It's still far more enjoyable than the current experience in the live game where the world levels up with you and you never get to feel your character getting stronger.
IIRC you need to to switch continents BB. Ashenvale maybe? Or wetlands. Duskwood.
Yeah I recall needing to travel a lot to find appropriate level quests. The game was much more about exploring and killing mobs not needed for quests to level.
IIRC even if you use a guide to find all the quests possible you still run out sometimes, especially if you are not doing the quests in the instances.
Yeah, I spent the time and went to Darkshore and found a ton of quests...
Man. I haven't played alliance since 2005? I forget all this stuff.
I spent so much time in the glum dark forests of Teldrassil and Darkshore when I started playing this game. Coming to open Westfall was kind of disconcerting afterwards. :D
So my mage is up to level 19. I've cleared out my bags, I've tracked down all the quests. Next time I play (which may not be a couple of days)... I'm going to try and find a Deadmines group.
Sat down last nite to try and run Deadmines.
Spammed "LFG" for a half hour (I'm now well behind the levelling curve) with no takers.
Maybe Friday night will be more accommodating.
Oh yeah, getting an instance run together used to be quite a feat.
Hence guilds
Quote from: Zoupa on September 26, 2019, 04:26:40 PM
Hence guilds
Yep, trying to play classic without a guild was difficult even if you never wanted to play the end game content.
And a friends list. I ran countless Scholomance and Dire Maul dungeons with random folks I clicked with in LFG channel.
That was the cool thing about classic. If you were a decent dude with ok skills, ppl would friend you. Easier to build groups that way.
Probably helped that I was a tank though.
Yeah forming guilds and groups was really the entire game really in vanilla. It was the part of the game I loved and I left as soon as that ceased to be a thing.
Quote from: Zoupa on October 01, 2019, 08:07:46 PM
Probably helped that I was a tank though.
Being a non-douche bag, competent tank was a good way to have friends. They were rare.
If anyone would like to come out of retirement, the new recruit a friend program is up. I'd be happy to share. :) https://battle.net/recruit/56CBVR2VFW
WoW classic is about to open the Dark Portal and Outland - but 2 weeks early you can now roll your blood elf or draeni toons. Starts tonight.
Highly unlikely I'll make it much past 20 (I have no fucking time to play these things) but I'm back in to roll a belf.
It really is like the old days - servers are down! :D
Holy shit, you're still playing this? :huh:
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 19, 2021, 12:33:52 AM
Holy shit, you're still playing this? :huh:
More like "again" rather than still.