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Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread

Last post by FunkMonk - Today at 06:16:11 AM

 

By common consensus I will also support Palace instead of Milwall. Although because Palace have been in the prem for awhile I've seen them play a lot and I actually kind of like them already so I feel that is cheating.

#2

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by The Brain - Today at 05:05:07 AM

If the Jewish guy wasn't holding such a sign then your comment makes no sense. Did he hold such a sign or didn't he?

Don't play Raz.

OK then. Forget the sign. The black guy (lets assume he's 100% non-Jewish in any way) is wearing a kippah. 
Do you think he wouldn't be stopped?

Their problem with the guy was that he was 'openly Jewish', not the color of his skin. If a non-Jew dressed up as a Jew the police stopping him for being 'openly Jewish' or not would I think be decided by how convincingly it was done. I don't think they would tell a guy with a kippah who they don't think is actually Jewish that he was 'openly Jewish', they may in that case think instead that it's some kind of "blackface" situation, which may or may not make them stop him for that. My guess is that the police would be less likely to consider Jewish a guy who looks say East Asian or Black, nevermind that Jews come in all colors.

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Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by Josquius - Today at 04:48:23 AM

If the Jewish guy wasn't holding such a sign then your comment makes no sense. Did he hold such a sign or didn't he?

Don't play Raz.

OK then. Forget the sign. The black guy (lets assume he's 100% non-Jewish in any way) is wearing a kippah. 
Do you think he wouldn't be stopped?

#4

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by The Brain - Today at 04:46:59 AM

It isn't the first time we've seen something like this happen. I've seen it first hand myself when the far right are given the right to do their thing the anti-fascists are cordoned off from them. This doesn't mean the fascists are regarded as being right. Its just the police doing their job and trying to minimise trouble.
This particular case was bad because of the horrible clumsy language the cop used, not because he wanted to keep a guy in a kippah away from a march where some people might be anti semites of some form (though you also get Jews in such protests too) and looking for someone to lash out at.

Is it common for the police to keep anti-fascists of some ethnicities or religions cordoned off while letting other anti-fascists interact with the fascists?

You're insinuating if a black guy had come along with a sign saying "Support Israel! Destroy Hamas!" the police wouldn't have stopped him too?

I didn't see anything about such a sign in the article. Source?

What are you talking about?
There was no black guy with a sign. Its how we could test your hypothesis however.

If the Jewish guy wasn't holding such a sign then your comment makes no sense. Did he hold such a sign or didn't he?

#5

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by Josquius - Today at 04:43:54 AM

It isn't the first time we've seen something like this happen. I've seen it first hand myself when the far right are given the right to do their thing the anti-fascists are cordoned off from them. This doesn't mean the fascists are regarded as being right. Its just the police doing their job and trying to minimise trouble.
This particular case was bad because of the horrible clumsy language the cop used, not because he wanted to keep a guy in a kippah away from a march where some people might be anti semites of some form (though you also get Jews in such protests too) and looking for someone to lash out at.

Is it common for the police to keep anti-fascists of some ethnicities or religions cordoned off while letting other anti-fascists interact with the fascists?

You're insinuating if a black guy had come along with a sign saying "Support Israel! Destroy Hamas!" the police wouldn't have stopped him too?

I didn't see anything about such a sign in the article. Source?

What are you talking about?
There was no black guy with a sign. Its how we could test your hypothesis however.

#6

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by The Brain - Today at 04:43:26 AM

It isn't the first time we've seen something like this happen. I've seen it first hand myself when the far right are given the right to do their thing the anti-fascists are cordoned off from them. This doesn't mean the fascists are regarded as being right. Its just the police doing their job and trying to minimise trouble.
This particular case was bad because of the horrible clumsy language the cop used, not because he wanted to keep a guy in a kippah away from a march where some people might be anti semites of some form (though you also get Jews in such protests too) and looking for someone to lash out at.

Is it common for the police to keep anti-fascists of some ethnicities or religions cordoned off while letting other anti-fascists interact with the fascists?

You're insinuating if a black guy had come along with a sign saying "Support Israel! Destroy Hamas!" the police wouldn't have stopped him too?

I didn't see anything about such a sign in the article. Source?

#7

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by Josquius - Today at 04:40:00 AM

It isn't the first time we've seen something like this happen. I've seen it first hand myself when the far right are given the right to do their thing the anti-fascists are cordoned off from them. This doesn't mean the fascists are regarded as being right. Its just the police doing their job and trying to minimise trouble.
This particular case was bad because of the horrible clumsy language the cop used, not because he wanted to keep a guy in a kippah away from a march where some people might be anti semites of some form (though you also get Jews in such protests too) and looking for someone to lash out at.

Is it common for the police to keep anti-fascists of some ethnicities or religions cordoned off while letting other anti-fascists interact with the fascists?

You're insinuating if a black guy had come along with a sign saying "Support Israel! Destroy Hamas!" the police wouldn't have stopped him too?

#8

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by The Brain - Today at 04:37:31 AM

It isn't the first time we've seen something like this happen. I've seen it first hand myself when the far right are given the right to do their thing the anti-fascists are cordoned off from them. This doesn't mean the fascists are regarded as being right. Its just the police doing their job and trying to minimise trouble.
This particular case was bad because of the horrible clumsy language the cop used, not because he wanted to keep a guy in a kippah away from a march where some people might be anti semites of some form (though you also get Jews in such protests too) and looking for someone to lash out at.

Is it common for the police to keep anti-fascists of some ethnicities or religions cordoned off while letting other anti-fascists interact with the fascists?

#9

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by The Brain - Today at 04:30:06 AM

It's the Met. The global gold standard of policing.

#10

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by Josquius - Today at 04:28:12 AM

A few years ago there was that big anti-brexit march.
There would have been some Green voters amongst the marchers.
Does that mean it was a Pro-Green Party march?

It isn't the first time we've seen something like this happen. I've seen it first hand myself when the far right are given the right to do their thing the anti-fascists are cordoned off from them. This doesn't mean the fascists are regarded as being right. Its just the police doing their job and trying to minimise trouble.
This particular case was bad because of the horrible clumsy language the cop used, not because he wanted to keep a guy in a kippah away from a march where some people might be anti semites of some form (though you also get Jews in such protests too) and looking for someone to lash out at.