Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 09:33:00 AMInstead they've switched to make the war as costly as possible to russia. The Black Sea fleet is decimated, Belgorod is getting bombed daily, your refineries are on fire: leave Ukraine and it stops. Either that or general collapse/civil war in russia.
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on March 27, 2024, 08:23:51 PMWe'll see if it disappoints me yet again.
Quote from: Valmy on March 27, 2024, 07:56:37 PM"To be clear, the prequels got better as they went along. The third one is actually pretty great." LOL hard disagree Rolling Stone.The Rolling Stone is supposed to be this big cultural reference, but I can never find myself agreeing with them on more than 50% of what they write.
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Quote from: Tamas on Today at 08:51:52 AMHasn't the US denied they made that demand?
QuoteDepartment of State Press Briefing – March 26, 2024
MATTHEW MILLER, DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON
QUESTION: The Ukrainians have recently said after some reports about the U.S. warning them not to target Russian oil refineries that they understand those warnings but they have certain military targets that they will continue to target. Can you just bring us up to speed with regard to those conversations between the U.S. and Ukraine and if you guys have recently been telling them that they should not go after these Russian oil refineries?
MR MILLER: So I'm not going to speak to specific conversations, but it has always been our position since the outset of this war that we do not encourage or support Ukraine taking strikes outside its own territory.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 08:43:23 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on Today at 08:25:00 AMBut what are the alternatives for Ukraine, that Ukraine is capable of hitting and has the equipment to hit?
. . .Otherwise not great if you're telling them not to do x type of strike without providing the means to do y type of strike.
I agree with those points; I said basically the same above.
I still think it's fair to consider the efficacy of the strikes. There is a real concern on the other side - if the strikes spook the markets enough to cause world prices to spike, and that helps a Trump victory, the damage done to Ukraine's prospect is far, FAR greater than any impact on Russian military effectiveness.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 08:38:38 AMQuote from: Zoupa on Today at 12:48:45 AMhttps://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-increases-gasoline-imports-belarus-domestic-supplies-shrink-2024-03-27/#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20Russia%20has%20again,were%20no%20shipments%20from%20Belarus.
OK. And how does that impact Russia's military capacity or Ukraine's ability to win?
Quote from: Tamas on Today at 09:11:37 AMI think you guys keep missing an important point: a decisive portion of loudly religious people are only loudly religious to find excuses for being the absolute bastards which they are. They take the teachings of their religion about as seriously as your average atheist.I disagree.
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