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Title: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 06:25:37 AM
The Matrix, Fight Club, Magnolia, Being John Malkovic, Sixth Sense, Office Space, Man on the Moon, American Beauty, The Talented Mr. Ripley, Boys Don't Cry, American Pie. The Green Mile, Eyes Wide Shut, The Mummy. And yes, the Phantom Menace and other things.

Lots of actors had their true Hollywood breakthrough: Hugh Jackman, Amy Adams, James Franco, Colin Farrell, Russel Crowe. And more wide-spread fame for people like Angelina Jolie and Jude Law, Reese Whiterspoon, or Heath Ledger.

In 1999, 3 sequels were in the Top10 movies (for income): Star Wars Episode I, Austing Powers 2, and Toy Story 2. In 2019, you have 1 (one!) non-sequel in the same Top 10: the Freddy Mercury movie.

Take Tom Cruise. In 1999 you could see him in Magnolia and Eyes Wide Shut. In 2019, you'll be able to see him (or at least he is working on) Top Gun 2, and Mission Impossible 7 & 8.


Now tell me I am wrong!
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Grey Fox on May 14, 2019, 07:23:27 AM
I cannot. All around Y2K-1 was just awesome.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 07:25:06 AM
1999? Episode 1 so a tainted year.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on May 14, 2019, 07:29:59 AM
It was a high point for a lot of pop culture, to say nothing of the economy and world politics. Agent Smith was right when he told Neo that he was living in the height of his civilization.  :(
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Josephus on May 14, 2019, 07:38:47 AM
Pop culture died in 1992. The year I turned 26. Everything since has been shit.

Been thinking about writing a novel about that sometime.


Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 07:47:38 AM
Quote from: Josephus on May 14, 2019, 07:38:47 AM
Pop culture died in 1992. The year I turned 26. Everything since has been shit.

Been thinking about writing a novel about that sometime.

You should, it is a very original thought.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 07:59:25 AM
Common wisdom is that 1939 was the best year in Hollywood history:

Gone with the wind
Wizard of Oz
Stagecoach
Of Mice and Men
Ninotchka
Wuthering Heights
Mr Smith Goes to Washington
The Roaring Twenties
Only Angels Have Wings
Good Bye Mr Chips
Dark Victory

Just the 3 first films are some of the most influential movies ever made in America. Then a bunch of classics and very good films. And if we look outside America that's also when La Regle du Jeu was made. Another timeless classic. I think 1939 still has every other year beat.

Then 1977 has:

Star Wars
Annie Hall
Eraserhead
Close Encounters
Cross of Iron

Top 3 films are both landmarks in their genres/styles. Heck, Star Wars is one of the most influential films ever made.

There's also Saturday Night Fever that while being a crappy movie has had a profound cultural footprint. And The American Friend in Germany, which is one of my favorite films of all time. And some small horror classics in Demon Seed or The Hills Have Eyes. Plus A Bridge Too Far if you like those big classic WWII Hollywood epics. Smokey and the Bandit came out that year too. Just a perfect mix of entertaining/great/influential movies.

1994:

Pulp Fiction
Shawsank Redemption
Forrest Gump
Ed Wood
Lion King

Pulp Fiction is the most influential film made in America in the 1990s. 1994 is pretty much the year that made Quentin Tarantino, with Natural Born Killers also coming out. Heck he also contributed to the boom of Asian cinema in the West when he personally recommended Chungquing Express (released in 1994 in the West) and he got droves of people to watch it. Ed Wood is the best Tim Burton film. Lion King is the most successful Disney classically animated movie since the 1960s.

Also: Street Fighter The Movie

I would probably put 1999 under 1939 and 1977. Maybe it beats 1994 but still, Pulp Fiction...
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 08:05:20 AM
Oh, and 1979 has:

Apocalypse Now
Alien
All That Jazz
Manhattan
Life of Brian
The Warriors
Being There
Mad Max
The Jerk


Yeah, that beats 1999 too.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Syt on May 14, 2019, 08:28:12 AM
For fantastic (sci-fi/fantasy/horror) movies I contend 1982 was the best year:

Blade Runner
Poltergeist
Tron
The Thing
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan
E.T.
The Secret of NIMH
The Dark Crystal
Conan the Barbarian
The Last Unicorn


Outside the genre you still have Tootsie, 48 Hrs, First Blood, Gandhi, Fitzcarraldo, and more.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 08:29:22 AM
Seventies have the new Hollywood vibe so great contenders.

I like 1982 for pop and/or genre cinema though with:

- The Thing (flop then, seen as a masterpiece now)
- E.T
- First Blood (Rambo) Beginning of the '80s action craze?
- Conan the Barbarian
- Blade Runner
- The Dark Crystal
- Star Trek II: the Wrath of Khan
- Tron (first use of CGI but stylised so ages well)
- The Dark Crystal
- Tootsie
- Fitzcarraldo
- Fanny And Alexander

Not all exactly pop culture, which is actually a plus in my book, as with Bergman's Fanny and Alexander, Bergman's final movie or Herzog's Fitzcarraldo.

Plus lots of decent genre movies such as 48 Hours.
Plus the B-movies were not so bad and pretty much enjoyable as with the Beastmaster or the Sword and the Sorcerer (Matt Houston inside)
Plus so-bad-it's good masterpieces such as Megaforce.  :lol:

PS: Syt beat me to it, maybe a generation thing, so I added a few ones.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 08:38:16 AM
You can  point to individual genres, or to milestone movies like Pulp Fiction but OVERALL a blanket year... it has to be 1999. Especially if you consider movies for our generation. I am sure 1939 was great but those movies were not formative (anymore) to the pop culture of our lifetime.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 09:22:36 AM
My comments on a Top 50 List of 1999 Movies (http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,4507.msg1178411.html#msg1178411)

Part 1 (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/25/18274634/1999-movies-ranking-top-50)
Part 2 (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/26/18277205/1999-movies-ranking-top-50-part-two)
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: frunk on May 14, 2019, 09:22:36 AM
My comments on a Top 50 List of 1999 Movies (http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,4507.msg1178411.html#msg1178411)

Part 1 (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/25/18274634/1999-movies-ranking-top-50)
Part 2 (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/26/18277205/1999-movies-ranking-top-50-part-two)

Galaxy Quest!

I also liked Bowfinger. What a year!
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 09:24:42 AM
Ghost Dog was good too.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 09:29:41 AM
Any Given Sunday!


Quote"I don't know what to say, really. Three minutes to the biggest battle of our professional lives. All comes down to today, and either, we heal as a team, or we're gonna crumble. Inch by inch, play by play. Until we're finished. We're in hell right now, gentlemen. Believe me. And, we can stay here, get the shit kicked out of us, or we can fight our way back into the light. We can climb outta hell... one inch at a time.

Now I can't do it for you, I'm too old. I look around, I see these young faces and I think, I mean, I've made every wrong choice a middle-aged man can make. I, uh, I've pissed away all my money, believe it or not. I chased off anyone who's ever loved me. And lately, I can't even stand the face I see in the mirror.

You know, when you get old, in life, things get taken from you. I mean, that's... that's... that's a part of life. But, you only learn that when you start losin' stuff. You find out life's this game of inches, so is football. Because in either game – life or football – the margin for error is so small. I mean, one half a step too late or too early and you don't quite make it. One half second too slow, too fast and you don't quite catch it. The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break of the game, every minute, every second.

On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone else around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f****** difference between WINNING and LOSING, between LIVING and DYING!

I'll tell you this, in any fight it's the guy whose willing to die whose gonna win that inch. And I know, if I'm gonna have any life anymore it's because I'm still willing to fight and die for that inch, because that's what living is, the six inches in front of your face. Now I can't make you do it. You've got to look at the guy next to you, look into his eyes. Now I think you going to see a guy who will go that inch with you. Your gonna see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team, because he knows when it comes down to it your gonna do the same for him. That's a team, gentlemen, and either, we heal, now, as a team, or we will die as individuals. That's football guys, that's all it is. Now, what are you gonna do?"
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Josephus on May 14, 2019, 09:30:29 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 07:59:25 AM

1994:

Pulp Fiction
Shawsank Redemption
Forrest Gump
Ed Wood
Lion King


Good list. Maybe I'll change my novel date to 1994. I was thinking of Guns n Roses Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 as the tail end of civilization as I knew it (Breakfast Club being the starting point) but Pulp Fiction might be a good end date too.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 09:36:41 AM
I was in high school in 1994. I will wager and say that Tamas was in high school in 1999. So ultimately a lot of this will go down to "what year had a lot of good movies while I still was in my formative years". A lot of those movies in 1994 still dominated the conversation when I was in film school in the late 1990s, so they are etched in my personal history.

The Matrix was indeed the most imitated/parodied American film made in the 1990s... after Pulp Fiction  :P
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 09:36:41 AM
I was in high school in 1994. I will wager and say that Tamas was in high school in 1999. So ultimately a lot of this will go down to "what year had a lot of good movies while I still was in my formative years". A lot of those movies in 1994 still dominated the conversation when I was in film school in the late 1990s, so they are etched in my personal history.

I was just after high school in 1999 :P

But of course this inevitably depends on once's formative years. But just look at the top 50 list linked a few posts from here. Show me another year when so many well-known movies were made.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 09:41:57 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 07:59:25 AM

Then 1977 has:

Star Wars
Annie Hall
Eraserhead
Close Encounters
Cross of Iron

Top 3 films are both landmarks in their genres/styles. Heck, Star Wars is one of the most influential films ever made.

There's also Saturday Night Fever that while being a crappy movie has had a profound cultural footprint. And The American Friend in Germany, which is one of my favorite films of all time. And some small horror classics in Demon Seed or The Hills Have Eyes. Plus A Bridge Too Far if you like those big classic WWII Hollywood epics. Smokey and the Bandit came out that year too. Just a perfect mix of entertaining/great/influential movies.

I would probably put 1999 under 1939 and 1977. Maybe it beats 1994 but still, Pulp Fiction...

1977 has also Slap Shot.  :P One of the best sports movie ever! :)
And a Bridge too far is not exactly a classic WWII Hollywood epic, it's British (too). Major film, of course.
Points though for naming Street Fighter the Movie for 1994.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 09:36:41 AM
I was in high school in 1994. I will wager and say that Tamas was in high school in 1999. So ultimately a lot of this will go down to "what year had a lot of good movies while I still was in my formative years". A lot of those movies in 1994 still dominated the conversation when I was in film school in the late 1990s, so they are etched in my personal history.

I was just after high school in 1999 :P

But of course this inevitably depends on once's formative years. But just look at the top 50 list linked a few posts from here. Show me another year when so many well-known movies were made.

Just read this thread, try 1982 or 1977. I mean for 1999, the Mummy?  :lmfao: Eyes Wide Shut, a minor Kubrick?  Talented Mr Ripley? Plein Soleil, another take on the same story is better, despite being way older. OTOH, for 1999 you forgot Bridge of Dragons with Dolph Lungren and Hiroyuki Cary-Tagawa, a hilarious at time action vehicle. First Nu Image film shot in Bulgaria, talk about a milestone!  :D
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: katmai on May 14, 2019, 10:22:47 AM
Tamas you ignorant slut. You are wrong.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 10:25:55 AM
Quote from: katmai on May 14, 2019, 10:22:47 AM
Tamas you ignorant slut. You are wrong.

What do you know about films?! :P
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: The Brain on May 14, 2019, 10:36:53 AM
1999? lolwtf
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 14, 2019, 10:40:41 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 14, 2019, 10:36:53 AM
1999? lolwtf

You suck.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: viper37 on May 14, 2019, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 14, 2019, 07:23:27 AM
I cannot. All around Y2K-1 was just awesome.
of course it was.  Lots of people thought the world would end on January 1st 2000, so they figured they released their best movies before that. ;)
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Valmy on May 14, 2019, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: viper37 on May 14, 2019, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 14, 2019, 07:23:27 AM
I cannot. All around Y2K-1 was just awesome.
of course it was.  Lots of people thought the world would end on January 1st 2000, so they figured they released their best movies before that. ;)

How ridiculous. Everybody knows the world ended December 21, 2012.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: crazy canuck on May 14, 2019, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: viper37 on May 14, 2019, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 14, 2019, 07:23:27 AM
I cannot. All around Y2K-1 was just awesome.
of course it was.  Lots of people thought the world would end on January 1st 2000, so they figured they released their best movies before that. ;)

And we were not too far wrong.  The world as we knew it ended on September 11, 2001.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 07:59:25 AM
1994:

Pulp Fiction
Shawsank Redemption
Forrest Gump
Ed Wood
Lion King

Pulp Fiction is the most influential film made in America in the 1990s. 1994 is pretty much the year that made Quentin Tarantino, with Natural Born Killers also coming out. Heck he also contributed to the boom of Asian cinema in the West when he personally recommended Chungquing Express (released in 1994 in the West) and he got droves of people to watch it. Ed Wood is the best Tim Burton film. Lion King is the most successful Disney classically animated movie since the 1960s.

Also: Street Fighter The Movie

I would probably put 1999 under 1939 and 1977. Maybe it beats 1994 but still, Pulp Fiction...

I like 1994, but I think it gets crushed by 1999.  There are at least 4 animated movies in 1999 better than Lion King (Princess Mononoke, Toy Story 2, Iron Giant, South Park) and Forrest Gump is terrible.  Pulp Fiction is fantastic but that's the only one that arguably could be considered better than any other movie from 1999.  Shawshank is great but I wouldn't put it above Fight Club, Office Space or Princess Mononoke.  Ed Wood is also great but we aren't just rating based on the best movies from given filmmakers.

Other great 1994 movies:

Legend of Drunken Master
Hudsucker Proxy
Shallow Grave
True Lies
Clerks
Amateur
Cabin Boy (psyche!)

Still doesn't measure up.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 12:21:57 PM
Quote from: frunk on May 14, 2019, 12:13:17 PM


Other great 1994 movies:

Legend of Drunken Master


1994 in HK, years later in the West (2000 in the US?), as with HK movies back then, so arguably not 1994.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 12:21:57 PM

1994 in HK, years later in the West (2000 in the US?), as with HK movies back then, so arguably not 1994.

Fair enough.  I think I saw it in 2000.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Barrister on May 14, 2019, 12:24:18 PM
I'm going to pitch another year for the best year for movies:

1984

Okay, okay, so maybe it's not the best year for high cinema.  It's movies weren't groundbreaking.  But in terms of the ongoing pop-culture appeal and influence, how can you beat:

Ghostbusters
The Terminator
A Nightmare on Elm Street
The Karate Kid
This is Spinal Tap
Beverly Hills Cop
Police Academy
Revenge of the Nerds
Footloose
Sixteen Candles
1984

Now many of these are not great movies - but they're influential movies.  How long has Revenge of the Nerds stayed with us?  They're still trying to remake Ghostbusters again.  The Karate Kid has been remade endlessly.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2019, 12:24:18 PM
I'm going to pitch another year for the best year for movies:

1984

Okay, okay, so maybe it's not the best year for high cinema.  It's movies weren't groundbreaking.  But in terms of the ongoing pop-culture appeal and influence, how can you beat:

Ghostbusters
The Terminator
A Nightmare on Elm Street
The Karate Kid
This is Spinal Tap
Beverly Hills Cop
Police Academy
Revenge of the Nerds
Footloose
Sixteen Candles
1984

Now many of these are not great movies - but they're influential movies.  How long has Revenge of the Nerds stayed with us?  They're still trying to remake Ghostbusters again.  The Karate Kid has been remade endlessly.

You also have:

Repo Man
Buckaroo Banzai
Blood Simple
Dune
Amadeus
Romancing the Stone
The Last Starfighter
Ice Pirates
Muppets Take Manhattan
All of Me
Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo!!!!!!!!

I guess you win.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
You lot make a hugeass 1984 movies list and leave out Temple of Doom?  :huh:

Say what you will about it being the weakest link in the Indy trilogy (because there's only 3 films), and I particularly love it to pieces, but it has boatloads of iconic moments.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
You lot make a hugeass 1984 movies list and leave out Temple of Doom?  :huh:

Say what you will about it being the weakest link in the Indy trilogy (because there's only 3 films), and I particularly love it to pieces, but it has boatloads of iconic moments.

Still an awful movie.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Barrister on May 14, 2019, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
You lot make a hugeass 1984 movies list and leave out Temple of Doom?  :huh:

Say what you will about it being the weakest link in the Indy trilogy (because there's only 3 films), and I particularly love it to pieces, but it has boatloads of iconic moments.

I left out sequels, since my argument was basically look how many of these movies they keep making sequels of.  I left out Star Trek 3 as well.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2019, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
You lot make a hugeass 1984 movies list and leave out Temple of Doom?  :huh:

Say what you will about it being the weakest link in the Indy trilogy (because there's only 3 films), and I particularly love it to pieces, but it has boatloads of iconic moments.

I left out sequels, since my argument was basically look how many of these movies they keep making sequels of.  I left out Star Trek 3 as well.

A lot of it has to do with the generation that grew up with those films now being in their 40s and having children of their own+midlife crisis. There's a reason why there's an 1980s fever going through pop culture right now. In a few years it will move on to the 1990s as that generation ages up.

Of course, there's been a continuous trickle of Terminator sequels (sadly I'll add) so that particular one has been ever-present.

Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Barrister on May 14, 2019, 12:56:32 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:51:30 PM
A lot of it has to do with the generation that grew up with those films now being in their 40s and having children of their own+midlife crisis. There's a reason why there's an 1980s fever going through pop culture right now. In a few years it will move on to the 1990s as that generation ages up.

Of course, there's been a continuous trickle of Terminator sequels (sadly I'll add) so that particular one has been ever-present.

There's an element of that sure, but the argument is specific to 1984.

Looking at 1985, it doesn't have near the same heft.  There's Goonies, Back to the Future, and The Breakfast Club, but that's about it.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: frunk on May 14, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 12:21:57 PM

1994 in HK, years later in the West (2000 in the US?), as with HK movies back then, so arguably not 1994.

Fair enough.  I think I saw it in 2000.

It's of course a great movie, and one of the best of the genre. No question about that. Deserves to be in best movies of the year list. The year being the problem.  :P
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 01:00:40 PM
Quote from: frunk on May 14, 2019, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
You lot make a hugeass 1984 movies list and leave out Temple of Doom?  :huh:

Say what you will about it being the weakest link in the Indy trilogy (because there's only 3 films), and I particularly love it to pieces, but it has boatloads of iconic moments.

Still an awful movie.

And Breakin'2: Electric Bugaloos is?  :D It even gave birth to a meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/electric-boogaloo (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/electric-boogaloo)
One of Cannon's worst, only Superman IV being worse, though I am not sure which one is more entertaining.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 14, 2019, 12:56:32 PM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 12:51:30 PM
A lot of it has to do with the generation that grew up with those films now being in their 40s and having children of their own+midlife crisis. There's a reason why there's an 1980s fever going through pop culture right now. In a few years it will move on to the 1990s as that generation ages up.

Of course, there's been a continuous trickle of Terminator sequels (sadly I'll add) so that particular one has been ever-present.

There's an element of that sure, but the argument is specific to 1984.

Looking at 1985, it doesn't have near the same heft.  There's Goonies, Back to the Future, and The Breakfast Club, but that's about it.

Following that train of thought, James Bond is the only saga that has managed to be ever-present across many generations. They've been churning them out since the 1950s!

Star Wars also has had a very notable shelf life, too, and the success of the 1990s and 2010s films will ensure we'll get more of them in the future as they remain culturally relevant.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 01:00:40 PM

And Breakin'2: Electric Bugaloos is?  :D It even gave birth to a meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/electric-boogaloo (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/electric-boogaloo)
One of Cannon's worst, only Superman IV being worse, though I am not sure which one is more entertaining.

Should I have added more exclamation marks so that I'm obviously sarcastic?  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: frunk on May 14, 2019, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 01:00:40 PM

And Breakin'2: Electric Bugaloos is?  :D It even gave birth to a meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/electric-boogaloo (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/electric-boogaloo)
One of Cannon's worst, only Superman IV being worse, though I am not sure which one is more entertaining.

Should I have added more exclamation marks so that I'm obviously sarcastic?  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet you forgot the once-much maligned Indy sequel. Would have been funnier if you had put them on the same level.  ;)

PS: Breakin' was actually a bona fide hit for Cannon, and somewhat influential.   :hmm: Maybe it's Van Damme short appearance.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 01:08:55 PM

Yet you forgot the once-much maligned Indy sequel. Would have been funnier if you had put them on the same level.  ;)

PS: Breakin' was actually a bona fide hit for Cannon, and somewhat influential.   :hmm: Maybe it's Van Damme short appearance.

I didn't forget it, I purposely left it off.  I know which one I would rather watch but I wouldn't consider either one of them good.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 02:29:50 PM
Quote from: frunk on May 14, 2019, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 01:08:55 PM

Yet you forgot the once-much maligned Indy sequel. Would have been funnier if you had put them on the same level.  ;)

PS: Breakin' was actually a bona fide hit for Cannon, and somewhat influential.   :hmm: Maybe it's Van Damme short appearance.

I didn't forget it, I purposely left it off.  I know which one I would rather watch but I wouldn't consider either one of them good.

All of that, due to an obnoxious kid character.   :hmm:
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: frunk on May 14, 2019, 03:09:07 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 02:29:50 PM

All of that, due to an obnoxious kid character.   :hmm:

And an obnoxious female lead.  And terrible cartoony action sequences (with one or two exceptions).  And terrible pseudo gross out scenes.  And generally cheeseball acting with very little charm.  And tonal problems that leave it unable to succeed as either a kids movie or more adult fare.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Barrister on May 14, 2019, 03:40:38 PM
Quote from: frunk on May 14, 2019, 03:09:07 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 14, 2019, 02:29:50 PM

All of that, due to an obnoxious kid character.   :hmm:

And an obnoxious female lead.  And terrible cartoony action sequences (with one or two exceptions).  And terrible pseudo gross out scenes.  And generally cheeseball acting with very little charm.  And tonal problems that leave it unable to succeed as either a kids movie or more adult fair.

I dunno - my only problem with Temple of Doom is the "obnoxious female lead".
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 03:54:23 PM
Short Round isn't that annoying even, for annoying kid sidekick standards. But Capshaw has a frankly terrible role and she doesn't do much to salvage it either. I nearly forgive her because of the amazing opening scene though (singing Cole Porter in Mandarin).

But the movie is an awesome (and yes, silly) rollercoaster. It just doesn't stop. Not every scene works, but many do, and it's absolutely relentless.

I personally prefer it to Last Crusade, which is a lesser remake of the first, elevated by Sean Connery.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Caliga on May 14, 2019, 08:14:00 PM
The best year for movies is 1990 because that's the year Goodfellas came out. :sleep:
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 14, 2019, 10:05:53 PM
You can't pick a year based on one movie.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 15, 2019, 01:55:55 AM
1990 does have as well one of Depardieu's best movies, Cyrano de Bergerac, the best adaptation of the play and an excellent adaptation in its own right.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: celedhring on May 15, 2019, 02:05:47 AM
Miller's Crossing remains my favorite Cohen movie to this day, too.

As for more pop culture rellevant stuff, there's Dances with Wolves, Edward Scissorhands, Total Recall, Ghost, Red October... there's worse years.

Oh, and Darkman. Darkman is awesome.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Tamas on May 15, 2019, 04:00:38 AM
Miller's Crossing is a great movie.
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Malthus on May 15, 2019, 09:16:47 AM
Quote from: celedhring on May 14, 2019, 03:54:23 PM
Short Round isn't that annoying even, for annoying kid sidekick standards. But Capshaw has a frankly terrible role and she doesn't do much to salvage it either. I nearly forgive her because of the amazing opening scene though (singing Cole Porter in Mandarin).

But the movie is an awesome (and yes, silly) rollercoaster. It just doesn't stop. Not every scene works, but many do, and it's absolutely relentless.

I personally prefer it to Last Crusade, which is a lesser remake of the first, elevated by Sean Connery.

The movie would have been a masterpiece if only they had Indy go through with the sacrifice of the female lead ... after he regains his sanity.  :D
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: viper37 on May 15, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 15, 2019, 01:55:55 AM
1990 does have as well one of Depardieu's best movies, Cyrano de Bergerac, the best adaptation of the play and an excellent adaptation in its own right.
oh yeah, excellent movie!  But I thought it was older than that :)
I shall have to buy it someday :)
Title: Re: 1999: The Best Year for Movies
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 15, 2019, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 15, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 15, 2019, 01:55:55 AM
1990 does have as well one of Depardieu's best movies, Cyrano de Bergerac, the best adaptation of the play and an excellent adaptation in its own right.
oh yeah, excellent movie!  But I thought it was older than that :)
I shall have to buy it someday :)

Recently re-released on blu-ray in France, remastered (version restaurée). The previous one was not great.
Don't know if it's region locked.