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I'm trying to wean myself off my recent addiction to being mean to Greens on Twitter, but one of them has just put out a campaign video listing 35 reasons to vote Green and one of them is "zero murders" and come on
Quote from: Josquius on Today at 02:51:35 AMQuote from: Syt on April 23, 2024, 01:15:03 PMQuote from: Caliga on April 23, 2024, 12:19:34 PMMy grandfather was a Lutheran pastor and served a term as a Bishop in the ELCA. I remember him telling me that during his term he had argued in favor of endorsing some newer revision of the Bible because he wanted the Message to be as clear as possible to as many people as possible, but there were conservatives who disagreed and ultimately they made no change to their recommended translation of the Bible for congregations... or something along those lines (this was in the 1980s so my memory is a bit fuzzy on the specifics).
It's weirdly ironic. Translating the Bible into language people could understand (English, German etc.) without need for interlocutors in the form of pastors/priests was once a transgressive and groundbreaking move. Now, these centuries old translations have become more difficult to understand for contemporary Christians, but now you have again some conservatives pushing back on updating translations, sticking to the old ones.
Its funny though, because these colloquial translations might have made things harder for modern folk to read than if they'd stuck to more formal English at the time.
Always strikes me as funny when you get low grade fiction having a historic person speaking polite ye olde English throwing around thou et al. English mostly lost its impolite forms. Its the polite formal forms we kept.
Like imagine a bible translation using all the hippest 1970s language. This tends to be a bit of a problem with modern language takes; they go too far in trying to be trendy.
Quote from: Syt on Today at 01:04:08 AMWhat was the candle situation on the show?
Quote from: Josephus on Today at 10:21:36 AMQuote from: crazy canuck on Today at 09:54:01 AMI had forgotten that Laverne and Shirley were roommates.
Yes. That's why they had their initials on their shirts so they won't mix them up.
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 09:54:01 AMQuote from: Tonitrus on April 23, 2024, 07:55:25 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on April 23, 2024, 11:34:29 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 23, 2024, 11:28:20 AMQuote from: Syt on April 23, 2024, 11:23:48 AMThinking about it some more, I guess the "average Joe" series are mostly workplace comedies now? The Office, Superstore, etc?I think so.
But I was thinking about your post and how we've shifted. Were there any sitcoms about friends or flatmates etc (not family and not colleagues) before the 90s? I can't think of any off the top of my head
Edit: Actually in a British context - maybe Hancock's Half Hour and Rising Damp.
Three's company
Bosom Buddies (with Tom Hanks), Perfect Strangers, maybe Mork & Mindy? Also Laverne & Shirley.
(I watched way too much TV as a kid.)
I had forgotten that Laverne and Shirley were roommates.
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 23, 2024, 07:55:25 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on April 23, 2024, 11:34:29 AMQuote from: Sheilbh on April 23, 2024, 11:28:20 AMQuote from: Syt on April 23, 2024, 11:23:48 AMThinking about it some more, I guess the "average Joe" series are mostly workplace comedies now? The Office, Superstore, etc?I think so.
But I was thinking about your post and how we've shifted. Were there any sitcoms about friends or flatmates etc (not family and not colleagues) before the 90s? I can't think of any off the top of my head
Edit: Actually in a British context - maybe Hancock's Half Hour and Rising Damp.
Three's company
Bosom Buddies (with Tom Hanks), Perfect Strangers, maybe Mork & Mindy? Also Laverne & Shirley.
(I watched way too much TV as a kid.)
Quote from: Barrister on April 23, 2024, 03:58:42 PMQuote from: Admiral Yi on April 23, 2024, 03:52:52 PMI get that am I'm suggesting they're lying. That at least in part the reason they feel animosity towards Islam is because it was the religion of the conqueror. The religion of the tax collector, of the judge, of the punisher. that if, as in Indonesia, a couple Gulf merchants had shown up and told them about this great religion that helps you stop drinking so much, they would not feel the same animosity.
So I really tend to dislike the casual use of the word "lying".
In order to lie, you have to know what you're saying is false, and yet say it anyways. If you believe in something false and say it, you're not lying. An ardent flat earther is not lying when he/she says the world is flat - they are just badly mistaken.
So sure - in some alternate history, maybe the relationship between hindus and muslims would be completely different. But as they say - if grandma had wheels, she'd be a wagon.
The BJP views islam as the religion of foreign invaders. Whether they're right to or not doesn't really matter.
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