January 12, 1943 - RIP 2nd Hungarian Army

Started by Tamas, January 11, 2013, 10:47:18 AM

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Neil

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 11, 2013, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2013, 09:19:50 PM
Not true.  The Empire was fighting for human rights, every bit as much as the North was in the Civil War.
That's silly.  The fight was about diamonds.
Not exactly.  The fight was about political and economic rights for non-Boers, who were there for the gold and diamonds.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Caliga

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CountDeMoney

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Quote from: derspiess on January 11, 2013, 09:26:09 PM
To quote Lincoln:
"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."

Yeah, typical of a Confederatardapologist, to quote Lincoln.  From 1862
It was a long war.  Opinions changed with it, including his.

derspiess

The war was still about restoring the union.  Freeing the slaves gained importance but was never subordinated to the primary goal.

And I'm 100% Yankee, so buzz off.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on January 11, 2013, 11:10:38 PM
The war was still about restoring the union.  Freeing the slaves gained importance but was never subordinated to the primary goal.

And I'm 100% Yankee, so buzz off.

Restoration of the Union ceded to restoration of the Union free of all slavery as the primary goal, and you damned well know that.

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quit using letters to Horace Greeley out of context, gun nut.

Razgovory

It just hurts him to know that a Republican helped Black people.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on January 11, 2013, 11:18:02 PM
It just hurts him to know that a Republican helped Black people.

:rolleyes: So you think I'm racist, Raz?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Neil

Quote from: derspiess on January 11, 2013, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 11, 2013, 11:18:02 PM
It just hurts him to know that a Republican helped Black people.

:rolleyes: So you think I'm racist, Raz?
Does it matter what Raz thinks about anything?
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Caliga

Raz is the go-to guy for information about basement dwelling in Missouri. :contract:
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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on January 11, 2013, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 11, 2013, 11:18:02 PM
It just hurts him to know that a Republican helped Black people.

:rolleyes: So you think I'm racist, Raz?

No, but it was fun to throw that one in. :P
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

Quote from: Barrister on January 11, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 11, 2013, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 11, 2013, 01:33:03 PM
This thread gone to the shitters fast. Classy, people.

I dunno, man...I mean, yeah, it's a tragedy that so many Axis Minors got the shit end of the stick on the Eastern Front, and it was a horrific experience for many reasons, but for a lot of posters here, they were the bad guys.

IMMAJUSSAYIN

That's the cool thing about being Canadian.  We just might be the only country in the world who has never, ever been on the side of the "bad guys" in a war.   :)

WW1.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2013, 11:30:42 PM

Does it matter what Raz thinks about anything?

You of all people, with your infinite knowledge know that it does.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

dps

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 11, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
And besides, they usually had black-on-gray counters anyhow.  Bad guys.

Europa gives the Romanians some pretty cool looking white on dark blue counters.  The Finns get blue on white.

The Hungarians, though?  Yep, black on grey.  Oddly, the Royal Marines get the same treatment, just with a different shade of grey.