Europa Universalis IV announced

[DGuller]

My issue is that I pay gaming companies to design the game for me, because they're better at it than I am.  When the game is really defined by what combination of 23 DLCs I install, then I feel like they've outsourced game design to me.  It's only a small step removed from playing mods, where the default response to a bad game design decision by the modders is "well, you can change this parameter in the ****.ini file more to your liking".

[Caliga]

I mean, they need to make money.  So they can either do it this way, or release new versions of EU more frequently than they do.  It's just that now they have a steadier income stream via the DLCs than going for a while with no income, then a huge shot in the arm (or nothing, if a release flops).

[Barrister]

What I like about the model is the super fans can pay for the development of these expansions by paying full price, while I can wait 6-12 months and pick them up for 75% off.

[DGuller]

I mean, they need to make money.  So they can either do it this way, or release new versions of EU more frequently than they do.  It's just that now they have a steadier income stream via the DLCs than going for a while with no income, then a huge shot in the arm (or nothing, if a release flops).

I understand the need for a business model that ensures steady income rather than one-time injection, but it is annoying that there are 4096 or so possible versions of EU4 out there.

[garbon]

What I like about the model is the super fans can pay for the development of these expansions by paying full price, while I can wait 6-12 months and pick them up for 75% off.

Which also makes it viable for them to then flesh out areas that otherwise would not make sense to spend time on.

[FunkMonk]

What I like about the model is the super fans can pay for the development of these expansions by paying full price, while I can wait 6-12 months and pick them up for 75% off.

Bingo.

Just started a Hungary game after not playing for a long while. Becoming the Balkan hegemon and keeping the Ottomans sufficiently countered with alliances and the occasional war is pretty darn fun. 

[Josquius]

Did anyone get the Chinese one?
I wonder if it makes it fun to play East Asia.

I mean, they need to make money.  So they can either do it this way, or release new versions of EU more frequently than they do.  It's just that now they have a steadier income stream via the DLCs than going for a while with no income, then a huge shot in the arm (or nothing, if a release flops).

I understand the need for a business model that ensures steady income rather than one-time injection, but it is annoying that there are 4096 or so possible versions of EU4 out there.

I can't remember the examples, been too long since I played EU4. But I'm sure there are a few areas where having some DLC but not others will completely bork some nations.


I wonder how long it'll be before they go full SaaS

[Josephus]

It is a damn good game and I do have most of the DLCs, which add continued interest to the game. My only issue is:

1. I don't have the time to play this enough. (sigh)
2. Everytime a new patch/DLC comes out I have to relearn some of the features. Like trade leagues, for instance.

[garbon]

What we've all been waiting for: they are added native states in....The Philippines!

[Tamas]

What's even more fun is the Albanian on their forum complaining that Albania has a tougher start than Austria.

[Caliga]

What we've all been waiting for: they are added native states in....The Philippines!

The last time I played the OE I had Filipino colonies, so it would have been relevant to that game at least.

[garbon]

Oh my.

[crazy canuck]

Oh my.

I know right.  Cork should definitely not stretch to the West coast.

[Sophie Scholl]

I keep playing EUIV, but I keep burning out by about 1600 or so.  Too much micromanaging with all of the provinces they keep adding.

[Josephus]

I keep playing EUIV, but I keep burning out by about 1600 or so.  Too much micromanaging with all of the provinces they keep adding.

1600 is pretty quick, but yeah, I'm normally done by 1700