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Started by Syt, June 26, 2012, 12:12:54 PM

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Tamas

Quote from: Syt on October 07, 2021, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 07, 2021, 08:51:19 AM
I think I'll try New World.

It looks like it's heavily focused on crafting, player factions and PvP wars for controlling territories. ... Think I'll pass.

Yeah but I did enjoy Warhammer Online which was roughly the same idea, for a while at least. And if you are ever going to play a game like this you should do it close to release before it becomes dominated by uber meta hax0rz seal-clubbing everyone.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Tamas on October 07, 2021, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 07, 2021, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 07, 2021, 08:51:19 AM
I think I'll try New World.

It looks like it's heavily focused on crafting, player factions and PvP wars for controlling territories. ... Think I'll pass.

Yeah but I did enjoy Warhammer Online which was roughly the same idea, for a while at least. And if you are ever going to play a game like this you should do it close to release before it becomes dominated by uber meta hax0rz seal-clubbing everyone.

I watched a pvp live stream of it, and it seems it is already there.  The losing side - that was being streamed, had lots of comments about people needing to power level up so that their faction could be competitive.

Razgovory

Quote from: Tamas on October 07, 2021, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 07, 2021, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 07, 2021, 08:51:19 AM
I think I'll try New World.

It looks like it's heavily focused on crafting, player factions and PvP wars for controlling territories. ... Think I'll pass.

Yeah but I did enjoy Warhammer Online which was roughly the same idea, for a while at least. And if you are ever going to play a game like this you should do it close to release before it becomes dominated by uber meta hax0rz seal-clubbing everyone.


Do people still do use l33t speak?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Tamas

Quote from: Razgovory on October 07, 2021, 06:44:42 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 07, 2021, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 07, 2021, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 07, 2021, 08:51:19 AM
I think I'll try New World.

It looks like it's heavily focused on crafting, player factions and PvP wars for controlling territories. ... Think I'll pass.

Yeah but I did enjoy Warhammer Online which was roughly the same idea, for a while at least. And if you are ever going to play a game like this you should do it close to release before it becomes dominated by uber meta hax0rz seal-clubbing everyone.


Do people still do use l33t speak?

i don't think so, but I am old.

Tamas

Anyways, got to level 12 last night.

It's decent but I am finding my Warhammer Online comparison to be apt - it's clearly geared towards PVP. Factions (there are 3) controlling territories has a noticeable impact as they can set taxes in towns on activities like trading and crafting and you have access to town supply dumps if your faction controls it. Also as far as I can tell there are no NPC equipment vendors, only the auction house trading post where players sell their stuff (as I understand).

PVE is decent but very standard MMO except that you actually have to aim yourself. I am enjoying the musketeer gameplay I am gunning for - I have a musket and a rapier.

Leveling via XP -which you get for crafting as well not just quests and killing- gives you attribute points, it is quite clearly indicated and explained which attribute affects which equipment. Skills (giving you passive and active abilities to unlock) are per weapon type and you gain proficiency points in them from using them.

I was reading that you get better loot drops than the stuff you can craft -except for high-end crafters- but with my intention to focus on light armor (that gives you bonuses) I haven't reached that stage yet. Apart from the couple of apparels all my armor is self-made basic cloth stuff. To be fair though if I was ok to put on medium and heavy armor I'd be mostly kitted up by dropped loot now, though.

One particular backstory thing I like is that because of this supernatural thing going on on the island, nobody dies, they re-materialise after a bit  Which gives a "plausible" (as far as fantasy goes) reason for PCs and mobs re-appearing all the time from death. Even the mob re-spawn animation supports that little narrative.

Haven't engaged in PVP yet - whether that's going to hold my attention will clearly be deciding how long I'll stick with the game. But for the time being it has cured my World of Tanks addiction, which is definitely a plus.

Syt

Quote from: Syt on October 06, 2021, 12:42:52 PM
Apparently Jesse got to play co-op with Jeff and it will be online... somewhere? Twitch? ... this Friday.

https://youtu.be/skXCu2Eyjns
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Tamas

If any Europeans are playing New World, I am on the Yourang server playing Syndicate.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Tamas

Still enjoying New World and not sure why... Elder Scrolls Online should be much more up my alley (and to be fair I did clock about 50 hours on that the last couple of years), as it has tons more PVE content and variety. But the overall gameplay loop just seems better and the graphics plus especially the sound effects make New World more compelling to play. the individual areas of the game aren't that innovative or extraordinary (crafting, PVE, haven't really tried PVP except being flagged for it while doing PVP faction missions), but they seem to fit together nicely, giving context and relevance to each other.

Will be interesting to see how the player-run economy they are gunning for will pan out. There are some resources on the trade post (it's like the auction house) where it seems like you can make decent profit, but the price of the more mundane equipment (green weapons especially) has collapsed. I suspect a lot of people ignore the posting fee (and the warning you get when you try to post an item where your asking price is below that) because there's a LOT of 2 gold items and the default posting time (14 days) cost something like 4.8. The sell screen gives you a list of similar items (type and level) so  I guess people just posting to be cheaper than what they see there but they are actually losing money even if they sell it. Especially as you could get something like 0.50 out from just salvaging the bloody thing.

Tonight I'll have to go through the pain of getting into a dungeon team as I want to close off the lvl25 main story arch before going over to the 26+ region.

But, I won't be leaving my current main hangout (Everfall or somesuch) it's a major central hub on the map and it's under my faction's control. Through my various activities I have built a decent zone reputation (a score) and have chosen myself some crafting fee discounts with it. So I have my crafting stockpile in storage there (and you can craft straight out of the local storage which is neat) and will buy my player housing there once I somehow can get the money together for it (so I can teleport back for free).

Syt

Coming up on the end of the original campaign in Final Fantasy XIV. The story picks up a fair bit, but from reading spoiler free comments about the last two dungeons ... well, they kinda messed them up and they learned from it for the future. Unfortunately they haven't managed to completely fix them.

In short you have two 8 man dungeons (most dungeons in story are 4-player: tank, healer, 2 dps), with tons of story cutscenes interspersed (like 25 minutes in the first, 30-35 in the second). Because of the system where almost all players do their daily dungeon roulette, you don't have to worry about finding peeps for the group.

However.

Many of them have run those dungeons many times by now. Normally, players are courteous when someone wants to watch cutscenes, but this is a bit much, and experienced players ran through the content, while a first timer was still watching a cutscene. So they made (for these two dungeons only) the cutscenes unskippable, and ramped up the rewards for players coming in through roulette considerably, and now it's a meme. I guess I will see myself, when I run them tomorrow or the day after. :D

Anyways, I'm one level too low (49, need 50) for them at the moment, so I guess it will be a couple more sidequests, clearing my hunting log, and some optional dungeons I haven't tried yet first (and when I get to 50 I can also do my next class quest). :lol:

It's still a pretty and casual affair, and I'm not hit by crippling FOMO for taking it slow. I tend to be a carebear in MMOs, and this game very much caters to that sensibility.  :blush:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Caliga

A few months ago as part of the last Steam sale I bought AC: Odyssey and remembered I bought it this past weekend and checked it out.  I actually like it a lot better than AC: Origins so far. :hmm:
0 Ed Anger Disapproval Points

Syt

Finished the main base story of FF14 yesterday. Yes, those dungeons sure were a lot of cutscenes. :D

Loved the lead up to the climax with the plans etc. Keep in mind that in the game you're a mostly silent protagonist. I felt VERY reminded of this: https://youtu.be/4SJOkjxZY9c

The people I ran with clearly knew the place by heart. The fights weren't hard, but man, keeping up was hard.

I'm glad I watched guides beforehand or I would have been super frustrated in the final one. I accidentally aggroed enemies in the first bit (you can fight them, but mostly people just run for an elevator) which led to me dying. So I had to play catch up .. and kinda failed. Fortunately, when the first boss fight starts you can just teleport to it. :D The second time I fell behind when you have to activate a thing in order to use another thing. This is something every player has to do. I activated the thing, but I must have cancelled shortly before it was done, because when I wanted to use the other thing I couldn't. So elevator back up, do it properly again etc. I did catch up with the rest, fortunately, because they were all stuck in their cutscene. :D The last boss fights were easy, and the followed 10 or 15 minutes of cutscenes and fifteen or so minutes of credits. :D

Not the most amazing story ever told, but entertaining enough, with a few small twists near the end. The expansion stories are supposedly where the meat is; I guess I can comment once I get there.

Took me two months and over 160 hours to get to this point, though. I did get sidetracked a lot though. Leveling another class, leveling mining, playing the collectible card game etc. I'm kind of scared of starting crafting, because it's not like e.g. WoW (click button, get product), but a whole process to produce what you want, with ingredient lists of raw and processed goods (themselves created from raw goods) and a skill set to go along with it. Sounds like a crazy rabbit hole (but a great money maker).
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

So, with FF14 behind me, a review of sorts.

It's with mixed feelings that I stopped, but I think it was time.

The main selling point for FF14 at this point is the story. Many consider the original main campaign a slog, and I agree it has its slow bits, and some serious going back and forth to get exposition dialogue. Also, much of it is text only, and where there's voice acting, it's of decidedly mixed quality. I didn't have issues with it, but YMMV severely. It's high in melodrama and the occasional silliness; it is a JRPG at hear, after all. With the first expansion all of this apparently improves significantly, but you can spend dozens of hours to get there. There are boosts to bypass this, but much of the story builds onto previous content, so it might lead to more confusion.

The community is incredibly friendly and helpful. I didn't run into any toxic behavior, and in fact people can be reported and will be punished if they are dicks or assholes. Generally, if you ask people for help, they will gladly do so, and maybe throw in a random pet or mount just because they feel like it. There are many people who play this very much for the social aspects. Their guild, finding awesome cosmetics, decorating their house or guild hall, playing music in the social hubs, going to nightclubs (yes, those exist), ... kind of reminds me to what MMORPGs could be 15, 20 years ago where the community was as important an aspect as the content. I joined a guild myself, and people were incredibly chill and down to earth, with ages ranging from early 20s to 40s and 60s.

In terms of content there's tons of stuff. There's of course the main scenario quest (MSQ) that advances the main story. There's daily quests in areas where you can farm commendations for one of the three Grand Companies (the militias of the city states). There's beast tribes with daily quests that lead to special mounts and have their own little storylines (each expansion has 3-4 of those tribes). There's gathering, with full skill sets that increase your chances to get better or more resources from each attempt. There's an in depth crafting system. There's tons of mini games in the Gold Saucer casino, from lotteries, to a weekly fashion competition to platforming challenges to a collectible card game to an RTS with your pets and full on Mahjong. There's of course dungeons and trials and raids of increasing difficulty (normal, hard, extreme, ultimate). There's towers with 200 randomized floors to try to ascent through. There's fishing (because of course ... there's something like 400-500 different fish to find and catch). As mentioned there's house decorating (if you're lucky enough to snatch up on of the scarce lots). There's farming for glamour (i.e. transmogs). There's a sightseeing log where you have to be in certain spots at certain times, sometimes executing a certain emote. PvP. Level other classes (every character can learn all classes which you switch between by changing gear). Etc.

The devs have been clear that they expect their players to take breaks and play other games. Their philosophy is that if you feel tired or bored you should step back, play something else for a while and come back when you're ready.

The game is very casual friendly. Story content is generally not too challenging to make sure everyone can experience it. Though tough challenges are available for those seeking them.

The graphics, while showing their age can nevertheless look quite impressive, with some really cool locations throughout the game.

The actual gameplay is ... well, it's also showing its age. You have the classic tab-target combat. Most enemies have some abilities that will show a damage circle or cone on the ground which indicates you should move or take the hit. However, it can feel quite slow. The majority of attack skills are on a 2.5 second global cooldown (GCD). You later get utility skills outside these cooldowns, and some classes have ways to shorten the cooldowns. Additionally, you gain skills rather slowly. I ran my first dungeon at level 15 with 3 or 4 buttons, making it a bit tedious. At level 53 I had maybe 18 or 20 skills as Warrior. Most skills have additional effects besides damage, so it's worth reading too tips. E.g. as pugilist/monk I have a base skill, which allows me two use one of two follow ups which lead into two other follow ups. In rotation I would alternate, first using the skill that gives me extra damage for 15 seconds, then the one that deals damage over time (if fighting a boss, e.g.), and then the combo that gives most direct damage. On top, Monk skills deal bonus damage if dealt from flank or read depending on particular button. So a slow skill progression helps to learn these intricacies and how to string them together for best effect. At the end of the day it feels more varied and interesting than, say, SWTOR, but less immediate than ESO's combat which is more action based, but uses fewer skills.

Dungeons are a mixed bag. The original dungeons showed some ambition towards making them a bit larger and maze-like, but this was later abandoned. After the original main campaign, dungeons are usually a run from A to B, with a few trash mobs in between, and usually around 3 boss fights. Even optional dungeons generally have story and lore attached to them. And around level 50 I found that generally there'll be a gimmick or two about them. E.g. in one case you have an invulnerable boss stalk you through the level, and you can only avoid his damage by standing next to glowing crystals. When you fight the boss, it's invincible unless the tank brings it to the same such crystals in the arena. Other dungeons require you to activate things, collect things, avoid things, or - in boss fights - figure out how to avoid certain damage bursts. That can be jumping into one of the hovering water bubbles to avoid arena wide AOE, or preventing certain adds from reaching a target. All this is quite manageable in normal and hard difficulty, but becomes a lot harder in extreme and ultimate challenges where bosses get new mechanics and phases. I've seen Yourtubers compare this to WoW raids, and a comment was that while WoW feels faster (because of FF14's global cooldowns), it still feels challenging, but more like a dance.

Finding groups for dungeons isn't hard. Many players run "duty roulette" which slots them in dungeons seeking players (or assigns them randomly). There's little communication during a dungeon run, unless something funny happens, or someone needs help with the mechanics. If someone watches the cutscenes, people will generally wait for them to finish before moving on. If you end up running a dungeon for which you're oveleveled you'll get synced down - which also means you lose all skills you wouldn't have at the dungeons's level, which is a bit rough. :D

Ultimately, I didn't enjoy the dungeons. Some of them look quite cool, but I didn't find the gameplay much fun. I thought it was because I was playing tank. As tank you set the pace (usually that means first checking how many enemies you can pull while mitigating damage and the healer keeping up). But most of the time you tank the boss, avoid floor markers, and leave the rest of the mechanics to the DPS members of the group. I hear late dungeons demand a bit more from tanks, but it's considered one of the easiest roles, esp. since their aggro retention got buffed a lot (basically, any player must do >10x your damage). I did play my monk in dungeons, too, though (as it's an efficient way for leveling a second class), and while I felt I had more to do, I also felt more "along for the ride". It felt mostly tedious, and not much fun. YMMV, a lot of players seem to enjoy the dungeons for the visuals, story and music (esp. in later expansions), but on low levels I felt it was mostly tedious. Granted, my not liking to rely on others in games, or have them rely on me, probably is also a factor there. I picked up a bunch of dungeons at the end of the original main campaign, and I ran them quite begrudgingly. It's hard to pinpoint really. But running a few maps in POE can take as long as a dungeon in FF14, and I find the former much more engaging.

At the end of the day, I loved the world and story, and I liked the wholesome community (even though I prefer to not interact :ph34r: ). But the gameplay became grating. I found myself avoiding combat (if you switch to gatherer profession, mobs don't aggro on you, unless you're way below them in level), similar to SWTOR, and that's generally a bad sign. I think it comes down to the game systems overall feeling relatively casual. There's lots to do, but it's not demanding particularly much of you. If you're looking for something to while away time, this may be brilliant. There is a lot of content, and you can just chill out with it. And while I do often play games on low difficulties, the good points weren't enough to keep me p(l)aying. If I was a more socially minded person, I might have stayed on for those aspects, but as it is I have plenty RPGs (including Final Fantasy 1-15) that I can play without a monthly sub.

That said, the trial is very generous - you can play the entire base game, plus the first expansion entirely for free, which can keep you busy for 100+ hours, depending on how much side content you want to do. You can't join guilds or answer whispers, but that shouldn't be an issue, generally.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

The car list for Forza Horizon 5 at launch (491, if Excel doesn't lie). FH4 launched with ~450 cars, and had ~750 at the end, so I would expect a similar increase for the new game.

Year   Make and model
2001   Acura Integra Type R
2002   Acura RSX Type S
2017   Acura NSX
1973   Alpine A110 1600s
2017   Alpine A110
2015   Alumi Craft Class 10 Race Car
1973   AMC Gremlin X
2554   AMG Transport Dynamics M12S Warthog CST
2018   Apollo Intensa Emozione
2013   Ariel Atom 500 V8
2016   Ariel Nomad
1964   Aston Martin DB5
2013   Aston Martin V12 Vantage S
2016   Aston Martin Vantage GT12
2017   Aston Martin DB11
2017   Aston Martin Vulcan AMR Pro
2019   Aston Martin Vantage
2019   Aston Martin DBS Superleggera
2019   Aston Martin Valhalla Concept Car
1984   Audi Sport quattro
1995   Audi RS 2 Avant
2001   Audi RS 4 Avant
2003   Audi RS 6
2006   Audi RS 4
2009   Audi RS 6
2010   Audi TT RS Coupé
2011   Audi RS 3 Sportback
2011   Audi RS 5 Coupé
2013   Audi RS 4 Avant
2013   Audi RS 7 Sportback
2013   Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus 5.2 FSI quattro
2015   Audi RS 6 Avant
2015   Audi TTS Coupé
2015   Audi S1
2016   Audi R8 V10 plus
1958   Austin-Healey Sprite MkI
1939   Auto Union Type D
2014   BAC Mono
1930   Bentley 4-1/2 Litre Supercharged
1930   Bentley 8 Litre
2016   Bentley Bentayga
2017   Bentley Continental Supersports
1957   BMW Isetta 300 Export
1981   BMW M1
1988   BMW M5
1991   BMW M3
1995   BMW M5
1997   BMW M3
2002   BMW M3-GTR
2002   BMW Z3 M Coupe
2003   BMW M5
2005   BMW M3
2008   BMW M3
2008   BMW Z4 M Coupe
2009   BMW M5
2011   BMW 1 Series M Coupe
2011   BMW X5 M
2012   BMW M5
2013   BMW M6 Coupe
2014   BMW M4 Coupe
2015   BMW i8
2015   BMW X6 M
2016   BMW M2 Coupé
2016   BMW M4 GTS
2018   BMW M5
2019   BMW Z4 Roadster
1926   Bugatti Type 35 C
1992   Bugatti EB110 Super Sport
2011   Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
2018   Bugatti Chiron
2019   Bugatti Divo
1970   Buick GSX
1987   Buick Regal GNX
2016   Cadillac ATS-V
2016   Cadillac CTS-V Sedan
2018   Can-Am Maverick X RS Turbo R
2013   Caterham Superlight R500
1955   Chevrolet 150 Utility Sedan
1957   Chevrolet Bel Air
1960   Chevrolet Corvette
1964   Chevrolet Impala Super Sport 409
1967   Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
1969   Chevrolet Camaro Super Sport Coupe
1969   Chevrolet Nova Super Sport 396
1970   Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport 454
1970   Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
1970   Chevrolet El Camino Super Sport 454
1970   Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1979   Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1988   Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super Sport
1995   Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
1996   Chevrolet Impala Super Sport
2002   Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2009   Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
2015   Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2015   Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
2017   Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
2017   Chevrolet Colorado ZR2
2018   Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
2019   Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
2020   Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupe
1970   Datsun 510
2013   DeBerti Design Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
2018   DeBerti Design Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Drift Truck
2018   DeBerti Design Ford F-150 Prerunner
2019   DeBerti Design Toyota Tacoma TRD 'The Performance Truck'
1969   Dodge Charger R/T
1969   Dodge Charger Daytona HEMI
1970   Dodge Challenger R/T
2008   Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
2013   Dodge SRT Viper GTS
2015   Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat
2015   Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
2016   Dodge Viper ACR
2018   Dodge Durango SRT
2018   Dodge Challenger SRT Demon
2018   Exomotive Exocet Off-Road
1957   Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
1957   Ferrari 250 California
1967   Ferrari #24 Ferrari Spa 330 P4
1968   Ferrari 365 GTB/4
1969   Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1984   Ferrari 288 GTO
1987   Ferrari F40
1994   Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1995   Ferrari F50
1996   Ferrari F50 GT
2002   Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
2003   Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
2005   Ferrari FXX
2007   Ferrari 430 Scuderia
2009   Ferrari 458 Italia
2012   Ferrari 599XX Evolution
2013   Ferrari LaFerrari
2013   Ferrari 458 Speciale
2014   Ferrari FXX K
2015   Ferrari 488 GTB
2015   Ferrari F12tdf
2017   Ferrari 812 Superfast
2017   Ferrari GTC4Lusso
2018   Ferrari Portofino
2019   Ferrari 488 Pista
1932   Ford De Luxe Five-Window Coupe
1940   Ford De Luxe Coupe
1956   Ford F-100
1959   Ford Anglia 105E
1964   Ford GT40 Mk I
1965   Ford Mustang GT Coupe
1965   Ford Transit
1966   Ford #2 GT40 Mk II
1966   Ford Lotus Cortina
1967   Ford Racing Escort MK1
1968   Ford Mustang GT 2+2 Fastback
1969   Ford Mustang Boss 302
1970   Ford GT70
1972   Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
1973   Ford Capri RS3100
1973   Ford Escort RS1600
1975   Ford Bronco
1977   Ford #5 Escort RS1800 MkII
1977   Ford Escort RS1800
1981   Ford Fiesta XR2
1985   Ford RS200 Evolution
1986   Ford Escort RS Turbo
1987   Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
1992   Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1993   Ford SVT Cobra R
1994   Ford Supervan 3
1999   Ford Racing Puma
2000   Ford SVT Cobra R
2003   Ford Focus RS
2005   Ford GT
2009   Ford Focus RS
2010   Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
2011   Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
2011   Ford Transit SuperSportVan
2013   Ford Shelby GT500
2014   Ford Fiesta ST
2014   Ford Ranger T6 Rally Raid
2014   Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
2014   Ford FPV Limited Edition Pursuit Ute
2015   Ford Falcon GT F 351
2016   Ford Shelby GT350R
2017   Ford M-Sport Fiesta RS
2017   Ford Focus RS
2017   Ford GT
2017   Ford F-150 Raptor
2017   Ford #14 Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing GRC Fiesta
2017   Ford #25 'Brocky' Ultra4 Bronco RTR
2018   Ford #25 Mustang RTR
2018   Ford Mustang GT
2018   Ford Mustang RTR Spec 5
2018   Ford #88 Mustang RTR
2019   Ford Ranger Raptor
2020   Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
2020   Ford #2069 Ford Performance Bronco R
2020   Ford Super Duty F-450 DRW PLATINUM
2021   Ford Bronco
1989   Formula Drift #98 BMW 325i
1997   Formula Drift #777 Nissan 240SX
2006   Formula Drift #43 Dodge Viper SRT10
2007   Formula Drift #117 599 GTB Fiorano
2013   Formula Drift #777 Chevrolet Corvette
2015   Formula Drift #13 Ford Mustang
2016   Formula Drift #530 HSV Maloo GEN-F
2018   Formula Drift #64 Nissan 370Z
2018   Funco Motorsports F9
1983   GMC Vandura G-1500
2012   Hennessey Venom GT
2019   Hennessey VelociRaptor 6x6
1973   Holden HQ Monaro GTS 350
1974   Holden Sandman HQ panel van
1977   Holden Torana A9X
1974   Honda Civic RS
1991   Honda CR-X SiR
1992   Honda NSX-R
1994   Honda Prelude Si
1997   Honda Civic Type R
2003   Honda S2000
2004   Honda Civic Type R
2005   Honda NSX-R
2005   Honda NSX-R GT
2007   Honda Civic Type R
2009   Honda S2000 CR
2015   Honda Civic Type R
2016   Honda Civic Coupe GRC
2018   Honda Civic Type R
1955   Hoonigan Chevrolet Bel Air
1965   Hoonigan Ford Hoonicorn Mustang
1965   Hoonigan GYMKHANA 10 Ford Hoonicorn Mustang
1972   Hoonigan Chevrolet Napalm Nova
1977   Hoonigan GYMKHANA 10 Ford F-150 'Hoonitruck'
1978   Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800
1986   Hoonigan Ford RS200 Evolution
1991   Hoonigan Rauh-Welt Begriff Porsche 911 Turbo
1991   Hoonigan GYMKHANA 10 Ford Escort Cosworth Group A
1992   Hoonigan Mazda RX-7 Twerkstallion
1994   Hoonigan Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC "Cossie V2"
2016   Hoonigan GYMKHANA 10 Ford Focus RS RX
1969   Hot Wheels Twin Mill
2011   Hot Wheels Bone Shaker
2014   HSV GEN-F GTS
2014   HSV Limited Edition GEN-F GTS Maloo
2006   HUMMER H1 Alpha
2019   Hyundai Veloster N
2015   Infiniti Q60 Concept
1970   International Scout 800A
1956   Jaguar D-Type
1959   Jaguar Mk II 3.8
1961   Jaguar E-type
1964   Jaguar Lightweight E-Type
1991   Jaguar Sport XJR-15
1993   Jaguar XJ220
2010   Jaguar C-X75
2012   Jaguar XKR-S
2015   Jaguar F-Type R Coupé
2015   Jaguar XFR-S
2015   Jaguar XE-S
2016   Jaguar F-TYPE Project 7
2017   Jaguar F-PACE S
2018   Jaguar I-PACE
1976   Jeep CJ5 Renegade
2012   Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
2014   Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT
2016   Jeep Trailcat
2018   Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk
2020   Jeep Gladiator Rubicon
2002   Koenigsegg CC8S
2008   Koenigsegg CCGT
2015   Koenigsegg One:1
2016   Koenigsegg Regera
2017   Koenigsegg Agera RS
2020   Koenigsegg Jesko
2013   KTM X-Bow R
1967   Lamborghini Miura P400
1986   Lamborghini LM 002
1988   Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
1997   Lamborghini Diablo SV
1999   Lamborghini Diablo GTR
2008   Lamborghini Reventón
2010   Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV
2011   Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
2011   Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
2012   Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
2013   Lamborghini Veneno
2014   Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4
2016   Lamborghini Aventador Superveloce
2016   Lamborghini Centenario LP 770-4
2018   Lamborghini Huracán Performante
2019   Lamborghini Urus
1972   Land Rover Series III
1973   Land Rover Range Rover
1997   Land Rover Defender 90
2015   Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR
2018   Land Rover Range Rover Velar First Edition
2020   Land Rover Defender 110 X
1997   Lexus SC300
2010   Lexus LFA
2015   Lexus RC F
2014   Local Motors Rally Fighter
1969   Lola #6 Penske Sunoco T70 MkIIIB
1971   Lotus Elan Sprint
1997   Lotus Elise GT1
1999   Lotus Elise Series 1 Sport 190
2012   Lotus Exige S
2016   Lotus 3-Eleven
2020   Lotus Evija
2008   Maserati MC12 Versione Corsa
2010   Maserati Gran Turismo S
2017   Maserati Levante S
1990   Mazda Savanna RX-7
1994   Mazda MX-5 Miata
1997   Mazda RX-7
2002   Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A
2005   Mazda Mazdaspeed MX-5
2011   Mazda RX-8 R3
2013   Mazda MX-5
2016   Mazda MX-5
1993   McLaren F1
1997   McLaren F1 GT
2013   McLaren P1
2015   McLaren 650S Coupe
2015   McLaren 570S Coupé
2018   McLaren 720S Coupé
2018   McLaren Senna
2018   McLaren 600LT Coupé
2019   McLaren 720S Spider
2019   McLaren Speedtail
2020   McLaren GT
2016   Mercedes-AMG C 63 S Coupé
2017   Mercedes-AMG GT R
2018   Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupé
2018   Mercedes-AMG E 63 S
2021   Mercedes-AMG Mercedes-AMG ONE
1929   Mercedes-Benz SSK
1939   Mercedes-Benz W154
1954   Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupé
1987   Mercedes-Benz AMG Hammer Coupe
1990   Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II
1998   Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK GTR
2011   Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
2012   Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG
2012   Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG Coupé Black Series
2013   Mercedes-Benz G 65 AMG
2013   Mercedes-Benz A 45 AMG
2013   Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG
2014   Mercedes-Benz Unimog U5023
2014   Mercedes-Benz G 63 AMG 6x6
2015   Mercedes-Benz #24 Tankpool24 Racing Truck
2018   Mercedes-Benz X-Class
1971   Meyers Manx
1986   MG Metro 6R4
1965   MINI Cooper S
2009   MINI John Cooper Works
2012   MINI John Cooper Works GP
2013   MINI X-Raid ALL4 Racing Countryman
2018   MINI John Cooper Works Countryman ALL4
2018   MINI X-Raid John Cooper Works Buggy
1988   Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
1995   Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1997   Mitsubishi GTO
1999   Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
2004   Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
2006   Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR
2008   Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR
2014   Morgan 3 Wheeler
1953   Morris Minor 1000
2010   Mosler MT900S
1933   Napier Napier-Railton
1969   Nissan Fairlady Z 432
1971   Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R
1973   Nissan Skyline H/T 2000GT-R
1987   Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
1990   Nissan Pulsar GTI-R
1992   Nissan Silvia CLUB K's
1993   Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
1993   Nissan 240SX SE
1994   Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
1994   Nissan Silvia K's
1995   Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
1997   Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
1998   Nissan R390
1998   Nissan Silvia K's Aero
2000   Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2002   Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II
2003   Nissan Fairlady Z
2004   Nissan Pickup #23 Rally Raid
2010   Nissan 370Z
2012   Nissan GT-R Black Edition
2016   Nissan Titan Warrior Concept
2017   Nissan GT-R
1984   Opel Manta 400
2009   Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
2010   Pagani Zonda R
2016   Pagani Huayra BC
2011   Penhall The Cholla
1984   Peugeot 205 Turbo 16
1991   Peugeot 205 Rallye
2007   Peugeot 207 Super 2000
1971   Plymouth Cuda 426 Hemi
2015   Polaris RZR XP 1000 EPS
1965   Pontiac GTO
1977   Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1987   Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA
1959   Porsche 356 A 1600 Super
1970   Porsche #3 917 LH
1970   Porsche 914/6
1982   Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
1985   Porsche #185 959 Prodrive Rally Raid
1987   Porsche 959
1989   Porsche 944 Turbo
1989   Porsche #65 Rothsport Racing 911 'Desert Flyer'
1993   Porsche 968 Turbo S
1995   Porsche 911 GT2
1998   Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion
2003   Porsche Carrera GT
2004   Porsche 911 GT3
2012   Porsche 911 GT2 RS
2014   Porsche 911 Turbo S
2014   Porsche 918 Spyder
2015   Porsche Cayman GTS
2016   Porsche 911 GT3 RS
2016   Porsche Cayman GT4
2017   Porsche Panamera Turbo
2018   Porsche 718 Cayman GTS
2018   Porsche 911 GT2 RS
2018   Porsche Cayenne Turbo
2018   Porsche Macan Rally Raid
2019   Porsche 911 Carrera S
2019   Porsche 911 GT3 RS
2019   Porsche Macan Turbo
2020   Porsche Taycan Turbo S
2015   Radical RXC Turbo
2017   Ram 2500 Power Wagon
1972   Reliant Supervan III
1980   Renault 5 Turbo
1993   Renault Clio Williams
2008   Renault Mégane R26.R
2013   Renault Clio R.S. 200 EDC
2018   Renault MEGANE R.S.
2019   Rimac Concept Two
2016   RJ Anderson #37 Polaris RZR-Rockstar Energy Pro 2 Truck
2004   Saleen S7
2018   Saleen S1
1965   Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
1965   Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
2021   SIERRA Cars RX3
1998   SUBARU Impreza 22B-STi Version
2004   SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STi
2005   SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI
2008   SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI
2011   SUBARU WRX STI
2013   SUBARU BRZ
2015   SUBARU WRX STI
1969   Toyota 2000GT
1974   Toyota Celica GT
1979   Toyota FJ40
1985   Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
1989   Toyota MR2 SC
1992   Toyota Supra 2.0 GT
1992   Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185
1994   Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205
1998   Toyota Supra RZ
2013   Toyota 86
2020   Toyota GR Supra
1998   TVR Cerbera Speed 12
2005   TVR Sagaris
2018   TVR Griffith
2015   Ultima Evolution Coupe 1020
2005   Vauxhall Monaro VXR
2016   Vauxhall Corsa VXR
1963   Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe
1963   Volkswagen Beetle
1969   Volkswagen Class 5/1600 Baja Bug
1970   Volkswagen #1107 Desert Dingo Racing Stock Bug
1981   Volkswagen Scirocco S
1983   Volkswagen Golf GTI
1992   Volkswagen Golf Gti 16v Mk2
1995   Volkswagen Corrado VR6
1998   Volkswagen GTI VR6 Mk3
2003   Volkswagen Golf R32
2010   Volkswagen Golf R
2011   Volkswagen Scirocco R
2014   Volkswagen Golf R
2017   Volkswagen #34 Volkswagen Andretti Rallycross Beetle
1983   Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
1997   Volvo 850 R
2015   Volvo V60 Polestar
2017   VUHL 05RR
1945   Willys MB Jeep
2019   Zenvo TSR-S
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

Bit disappointed at the lack of Fiat/Abarth, Lancia, Alfa Romeo from the Italian side. Ford maybe a bit overrepresented? Also going to miss the James Bond cars. Cruising in a 2CV was awesome. :(

Also still hoping they'll add Rolls Royce at some point (just for fun), but if they're not even in FH4 which was set in the UK ...
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.