Ottawa Conservative party receives body parts in mail

[jimmy olsen]

Apparently French authorities believe he's in France. The manhunt commences! 

[jimmy olsen]

Opps.

Welcome to the internet.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/05/31/dismemberment-.html

Toronto police denied Thursday that they ignored a tip about a graphic online video that appears to depict the stabbing and dismemberment of a man days before law enforcement agencies began their search for Luka Rocco Magnotta, suspected in the slaying of a victim whose body parts were mailed out.

Roger Renville, a Montana-based civil litigation lawyer, told CBC News Thursday that he had come across the 10½-minute video Saturday morning on a website that showcases gory videos. Renville said he believes the video documents the killing and dismemberment of a man.

"Within a minute or two of the beginning of the video, it depicts one of the men stabbing the other man very obviously," he said.

"What I saw in that video exceeds your worst nightmare. It's Jeffrey Dahmer-esque."

Renville then began a series of calls to a number of law enforcement agencies in Canada and the United States over the next three days, starting with his local sheriff's office. Most agencies — with the exception of the RCMP in Ottawa — were not especially keen on finding out more about the video, said Renville.

Renville claims he called Toronto police at Sunday at around noon Mountain time told them he had seen a video that he believed depicted the killing of a man and that he believed that the apparent killer was from Toronto.

"The officer was very skeptical. He seemed like he didn't even want to talk at first, but we got to talking a little bit and he suggested that whatever I was seeing must be fake. And he suggested that special effects are pretty good these days and it'd be hard to tell if it was real or not," said Renville.

"He told me that my story didn't even make sense. Why would a killer film himself and then put it on the internet? He said, 'That doesn't make sense, that's illogical.'"

Renville persisted, and asked the officer to provide him an email address so that police could view the video themselves.

"He said no, they wouldn't be needing a link and he declined to give me an email address."

Tip handled properly, Toronto police say

Toronto police say they've looked into Renville's allegations and have a record of a call placed to them at 10:30 p.m. ET Sunday night, which would be hours after Renville claims to have called.

Toronto police say the caller never provided them with a web address of the video or any information about how to access it. Police told CBC News the call-taker was not a uniformed officer but a "non-emergency call-taker."

Toronto police spokesperson Const. Wendy Drummond said the caller was instructed to contact Crime Stoppers, an anonymous police tip line, about the video and said the call taker-handled the call appropriately.

"A call was filed, they were suggested to call Crime Stoppers," said Drummond. "They were provided with a number to call Crime Stoppers so it wasn't that we did nothing."

Sources have told CBC News that Montreal police believe they are in possession of evidence of the suspect filming the killing and dismembering of the victim. While it hasn't been confirmed if the victim in the video Renville saw was the same one that Magnotta is alleged to have killed, the lawyer said he was nevertheless "extremely frustrated" at the response from police.

He said RCMP were more interested in his story when he called them late Tuesday.

Magnotta, believed to be originally from Toronto, is wanted in a homicide investigation related to the delivery of a human foot to the headquarters of Conservative Party of Canada in Ottawa and the discovery of a torso in Montreal. Magnotta was first named as a suspect on Wednesday.

The torso was found behind a brick mid-rise apartment building, which is near the bustling Decarie Expressway.

Meanwhile, a hand was found in a package addressed to the Liberal Party of Canada at a Canada Post terminal before it could be delivered.

Montreal police said there are still remains that are unaccounted for, but they have no reason to believe they were also sent in the mail.

Magnotta, whose most recent residence was in Montreal, was listed on Interpol's website Thursday among a group of nine international suspects wanted for crimes including homicide, kidnapping and organized crime.

[Drakken]

Would that enter under the definition of a snuff movie?

I'm not joking, because as far as we know this movie was made with the sole goal to see it distributed and watched by a wider, underground audience, and this man had an habit to distribute movies of real-life killing of animals for entertainment. It's a snuff, commercial exchange or not.

[jimmy olsen]

Would that enter under the definition of a snuff movie?

I'm not joking, because as far as we know this movie was made with the sole goal to see it distributed and watched by a wider, underground audience, and this man had an habit to distribute movies of real-life killing of animals for entertainment. It's a snuff, commercial exchange or not.

I would call it one, though some people will be sticklers on the commercial issue.

[Grinning_Colossus]

Facts:

• Luka Magnotta has an IQ of 165

[viper37]

Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.

[Syt]

Montreal - Paris - Berlin . . . . would Warsaw have been next?

[Malthus]

Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.

You'd figure the Germans would *like* a sex cannibal.

[CountDeMoney]

Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.

And yet, somehow, so fitting.

[HVC]

In an Internet cafe. The one place a person would be most likely to recognize him since his wackiness is all over the Internet. Ego's a bitch, isn't it?

[Grallon]

Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.

He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.




G.

[HVC]

Arrested in Berlin.

So much for that 165 IQ.

He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.




G.

Which is why the courts should hit him where it hurts, 100% publication ban.

[Grallon]

Which is why the courts should hit him where it hurts, 100% publication ban.

Too late for that - you can still watch his 'home movie' online...  I couldn't after I saw him playing with the severed head...

The point is it's already out there and viral.



G.

[HVC]

Which is why the courts should hit him where it hurts, 100% publication ban.

Too late for that - you can still watch his 'home movie' online...  I couldn't after I saw him playing with the severed head...

The point is it's already out there and viral.



G.

What's past is past, but keep the trial out. let him be forgotten in his own moment of "triumph". Striking ones name from history was a punishment in the past for a reason. Someone with his ego would be hurt more by that then most things. Will, except for a hanging, but we don't do that here.

[Neil]

He wanted for it to end this way.  There's no death penalty in Canada - which means if he plays his cards well he can be free within 10 years.  And after that... why - a book deal and quite possibly a movie made out of the whole gory story.  Male escort, porn actor, murderer - sex and gore -  it has 'Hollywood' written all over it.  And I believe that's what he wants above all else: a form of 'immortality' through the relating and retelling of that bloody affair.

I'm pretty sure there's a law against a criminal profiting from his crime in a situation like that.  Somebody might get a book deal, but it won't be him.

Still, it's just another murder/dismemberment, in a world where that sort of thing happens every day.  I was bored of this story within an hour.