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Started by Liep, December 16, 2011, 02:12:39 PM

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Liep

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 07, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
No clue what you're talking about.

An example is IAAF discovers a positive blood sample, but instead of banning the athlete they blackmail him and then covers up the sample. Apparently there are Olympic medalists on the list of people having paid for a positive sample to disappear.
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Eddie Teach

Usain? Or is his freakish speed legitimately come by?
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Liep

I've only seen this reported on Twitter by sports journalists so I don't expect Usain to be among them (report not out yet though). If he had been it would've drawn at least some headlines.
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Liep

World's Anti-Doping Agency recommends in its report that Russia be barred from any future athletic competition because of systemic corruption and doping. :o
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Liep

Russia blackmailed athletes into doping. Russia as in the Russian government.
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Valmy

Quote from: Liep on November 09, 2015, 09:28:48 AM
World's Anti-Doping Agency recommends in its report that Russia be barred from any future athletic competition because of systemic corruption and doping. :o

I predict vast implications here.
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Syt

Clearly this is a campaign by US and their Western lapdogs to discredit the brave Russian athletes.  :mad:



Also: nothing on China?  :wacko:
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Valmy

Quote from: Syt on November 09, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
Clearly this is a campaign by US and their Western lapdogs to discredit the brave Russian athletes.  :mad:

Oh no doubt this will be blamed on us. Because we totally give a shit about any sports Russians play.
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Grey Fox

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Syt

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/09/wada-iaaf-russia-dick-pound-banned

QuoteRussia accused of 'state-sponsored doping' as Wada calls for athletics ban

• London Olympics were 'sabotaged' by 'widespread inaction'
• Interpol to investigate 'alleged global doping corruption scam'

Russia has been accused of having a huge "state-sponsored doping programme" by an independent commission that could see the country kicked out of athletics and potentially the Rio 2016 Olympics.

The former president of the World Anti-Doping Agency, Dick Pound, who chaired an independent commission convened to look into allegations of systemic doping made by German media 11 months ago, said the "very damaging" findings were probably the tip of the iceberg. The widespread rule-breaking, he said, was "worse than we thought".

The Wada commission said there was evidence of "interference with doping controls up to the middle of this year" including more than 1,400 samples destroyed in December last year, as well as "cover-ups, destruction of samples, payment of money to conceal doping tests". It found that the head of its Moscow anti-doping lab Grigory Rodchenko admitted to intentionally destroying 1,417 samples. The report says that the lab, the only Wada accredited one in Russia, should lose its accreditation.

The 323-page report found the London 2012 Olympics were "sabotaged" by the "widespread inaction" against Russian athletes with suspicious doping profiles, by the world athletics governing body the IAAF and the Russian federation.

It outlines a culture of cheating in which Pound said Russian coaches were "out of control" and expected the Russian anti-doping agency to protect their athletes rather than catch them.

It recommended that five middle-distance runners and five coaches be given lifetime doping bans. Two of the athletes are the gold and bronze-medal winners in the 800 metres in 2012, the Olympic champion Mariya Savinova and the bronze medalist Ekaterina Poistogova.

The others are Anastasiya Bazdyreva, a 400m and 800m runner, Kristina Ugarova, a 1500m runner, and Tatjana Myazina, an 800m runner.

Pound said it was inconceivable that the Russian sports minister, Vitaly Mutko, was not aware of the scale of the problem. "It was impossible for him not to be aware of it. And if he's aware of it, he's complicit in it," said Pound. Mutko, who leads the 2018 football World Cup organising committee, denied wrongdoing to the Wada inquiry panel, including any knowledge of athletes being blackmailed.

A number of Russian athletes suspected of doping could have been prevented from competing in 2012 had it not been for "the collective and inexplicable laissez-faire policy" adopted by the IAAF and the Russian federation.

The commission said it had identified "systemic failures" within IAAF and the Russian athletics federation that "prevent or diminish the possibility of an effective anti-doping programme". Pound said the commission had found "payments of money to conceal doping tests".

Asked whether the findings were simply "the tip of the iceberg", Pound replied: "I'm afraid you're probably right. We don't think Russia is the only country with a doping problem and athletics is not the only sport with a doping problem."

French police last week arrested Diack, the IAAF legal adviser Habib Cissé and Gabriel Dollé, the former longstanding head of the IAAF's anti-doping unit. Prosecutors said they would have arrested Diack's son and former IAAF marketing consultant, Papa Massata Diack, if he had been in France at the time.

Diack, the IAAF president for 16 years, is accused by French police of accepting more than €1m in exchange for covering up positive drug tests. He has yet to comment. The IOC said that Diack should be provisionally suspended as an honorary member of the International Olympics Committee.

Pound said he was holding back parts of the report pending the French investigation into IAAF officials but hoped to release more details by the end of the year. "This report also identifies corruption and bribery practices at the highest levels of international athletics, evidence of which has been transmitted to Interpol for appropriate investigation," it said. Interpol announced that it was conducting an ongoing investigation into the "alleged global doping corruption scam".

Wada's foundation board will meet next week in Colorado Springs and has been urged by Pound to declare the Russian laboratory and anti-doping agency non-compliant. Pound said the IAAF should stop Russia from competing until it was completely rehabilitated.

"That is your nuclear weapon. Either get this done or you are not going to Rio. The embarrassment will be such that you're going to get it done. The idea is to get people competing under the right conditions," said Pound.

The former Wada president, one of three independent commissioners who investigated the allegations of systemic doping and cover-ups, was also critical of the role of the organisation he once led. "It's a pretty damning indictment of what has not been done and points the way to things that can be done if we're going to get serious about this. At some point the Olympic movement and the governments have to say: 'Are we going to do this properly or shall we all go home?'" he said.

Pound said that while its investigation was limited to Russia and athletics, the problems of systemic doping were wider.

The investigation was prompted when the German television station ARD implicated officials in Russia's athletics federation, anti-doping agency (Rusada) and the Wada-accredited laboratory in Moscow in acts of bribery to hush up positive doping tests, falsify tests and supply banned drugs.

Pound drew Kenya into the orbit of suspicion when he said: "It seems pretty clear from both the ARD programme and subsequent developments that Kenya has a real problem. It has been very slow to acknowledge there is a problem," he said. "There is apparently some investigation going on as we speak. If they don't do a good job then someone else will do a job for them."

Lord Coe, the IAAF president, said on Sunday that he was minded to try and rehabilitate Russia within the system but would "never say never" when it came to suspending a country. On Monday, Coe said the report was "alarming".

"We need time to properly digest and understand the detailed findings included in the report. However, I have urged the council to start the process of considering sanctions against ARAF [Russian Athletics Federation]. This step has not been taken lightly," he said.

"Our athletes, partners and fans have my total assurance that where there are failures in our governance or our anti-doping programmes we will fix them. We will do whatever it takes to protect the clean athletes and rebuild trust in our sport. The IAAF will continue to offer the police authorities our full co-operation into their ongoing investigation."
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Syt

Sports minister Mutko calls the accusations "baseless and fictional." It's all based on unknown sources and hearsay. And of course the government is completely wrongfully accused.

Regardless of Russia (who were probably only the ones stupid enough to be caught), there's indications that high IAAF functionaries had a system in place where you could make sure to not be convicted of doping if you paid enough. French authorities and Interpol are investigating.

It should be interesting what this means for the Summer Olympics - track & field are a cornerstone of the event, and this would be a huge blow if it's proven that it's not a few nations and/or athletes that were dirty, but that the whole organizational structure was involved (beyond the usual corruption inherent in those bodies).
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34811896

QuoteAthletics doping: Russia provisionally suspended by IAAF

Russia's athletics federation has been provisionally suspended from international competition - including the Olympic Games - for its alleged involvement in widespread doping.

The IAAF took action after the publication of an independent World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) report that alleged "state-sponsored doping".

Its council members voted 22-1 in favour of Russia being banned.

"This is a wake-up call for all of us," said IAAF president Lord Coe.

He told BBC Sport: "Our sport finds itself in a shameful situation.

"I am wholly focused on the changes that need to be made. I have openly conceded that we need to learn some very tough lessons.

"We need to look at ourselves, within our sport, and we will do that."

Russia's Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko said the suspension was "temporary" and the "problem is solvable".

The country's IAAF council member was not allowed to participate in Friday's vote.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Valmy on November 09, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 09, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
Clearly this is a campaign by US and their Western lapdogs to discredit the brave Russian athletes.  :mad:

Oh no doubt this will be blamed on us. Because we totally give a shit about any sports Russians play.

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