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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1875 on: April 17, 2019, 05:40:02 am »
Oh and BTW if you see Hungarian government politicians and their media's take on the Notre Dame fire, it was of course a direct consequence of France losing its way and embracing secular liberal filth, and French muslims are dancing in the streets in jubilation.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1876 on: April 17, 2019, 08:59:19 am »
Our favourite politician-wife returns!


HVG is a weekly newspaper with a long history in Hungary (its abbrevation refers to Weekly World Economy). Ever since their launch in 1979, their newest issue would be advertised by posters on the streets of Budapest (on these man-height round advertising stands that Budapest is full off).

This was the case even while the company controlling those advertising surfaces was (and has been) in the hands of various Orbanist oligarchs (the paper itself is quite left-ish).

Not anymore. Out of the blue, the advertising company cancelled their contract with HVG.

Perhaps not unrelatedly, this is what they were supposed to poster out:



The title is a Hungarian wordplay merging "luck" with "housewife", the subtitle says government-wives under rain of public funds, and of course concerns the stellar rise of all companies these ladies have started or joined in the last few years.

Wrong choice of front page I guess!

It is interesting to note, that before the rapid, unexpected, and shocking closure of the daily paper Nepszabadsag a few years ago (most popular and only clearly profitable newspaper at the time. Very center-left. Basically if The Guardian was closed overnight in the UK), the last big story they ran was the private helicoptering of this lady and his husband.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1877 on: May 02, 2019, 06:08:29 am »
Read an excellent article from TGM. He is something of a poor man's Zizek I guess. An old idealist communist philosopher/journalist.

But even though I deeply disagree with him idelogically, he is very smart and has a great insight if you learn how to compensate for his screwed up communist lense that he uses to look on things.

The main body of the article laments on the failure of the plutocratic-liberal democratic experiment in Hungary and the wider region, which of course is just the newest failure of such attempts following 1848, 1918, 1956 ('68 in other places), and now 1989.

He then switches over to explain how nihilistic and cynical Hungarian (and other regional) societies have become.

The ending however I especially liked and quickly translated it:

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All concepts are false, all suspicions are valid.

This nihilism was born by disappoitnment, the disappointment is justified, therefore arguing against the nihilism is hard.

If someone is upset about the current system's tyranny, he gets the reply of tyranny being present everywhere everytime, that hiearchy and autocracy is universal and eternal, albeit of course disgusting.

Power is an axiom, says the half-colonial half-periferial public opinion. Only way out from under it is to deny society, declare politics fake, art illusion, and go to some remote place, some not understood, unknown, unimportant place, where our existence is irrelevant, where we have no burdens of a citizen, where we can finally be what we always wanted to be: migrants.

Voluntary exile is East Europeans' only remaining utopia: xenophobia and seeking refuge in an alien land - both at once!

Our anti-European and "anti-migration" system is maintained by European handouts, western industry, and westward emigration, the Chinese and Arabic buyout of properties, and immigration. All the while whole districts of cities will empty out (like how it has already happeend in Romania), and obviously will be filled by aliens.
There is onle one way to maintain such a controversy: refuse to talk about it.

The dream of freedom -once again- has become a junkyard, both physically and intellectually.

The denied and not understood catastrophe has long been blamed on various, usually irrelevant persons and fictional events. The hidden crime officially doesn't even exist, but the scapegoats have long been found.

Still, the aimless paranoia does show that everyone is aware, how horrible our most recent history is. How can they blame freedom for the confiscation of liberty?

It's grotesque and bizzare, but not inexplicable.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1878 on: May 02, 2019, 09:59:29 am »
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and go to some remote place, some not understood, unknown, unimportant place,

But what if you don't like beets? :(
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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1879 on: May 13, 2019, 01:43:16 pm »
Victor Orban is visiting the White House today.
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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1880 on: May 13, 2019, 01:51:10 pm »
Victor Orban is visiting the White House today.

God, the jizz everywhere will be disgusting.
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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1881 on: May 13, 2019, 02:25:31 pm »
Victor Orban is visiting the White House today.

I hope the vengeful ghost in the Lincoln Bedroom takes him out.
If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate!

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1882 on: May 14, 2019, 07:43:13 am »
Jobbik, the old far-right party has been made irrelevant by Fidesz' switch to the same grounds, which has been made worse -at least for now- by Jobbik's attempt to compensate by going more moderate.

Their radical wing has seceded some time ago and has formed their own party, which is being relentlessly promoted by Fidesz - they are the only "opposition" party given media time by the state media, and their party events and such far outclass Jobbik's. Jobbik is struggling for money as the Election Authority is stripping them of it at every excuse they get, and the new formation, Mi Hazank (Our Homeland) is clearly awash in it.

Their latest action to be His Majesty's Opposition on the Right Edge is to form their own paramilitary group, a sort of successor to Jobbik's old (now disbanded) formation. Jobbik used to have funny waiter-like uniforms, these guys are more serious:



They are the Nemzeti Legio (National Legion) led by a guy who serverd in the French Foreign one.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1883 on: May 14, 2019, 09:40:36 am »
The next government property-project is to relocate the National Library from the old palace complex in Buda (where Orban's office has relocated) to an out of use barracks.

Sure a nice building they are getting their hands on:


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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1884 on: May 16, 2019, 04:22:06 am »


Laszlo Kover, whom I used to refer as chairman of the house (of parliament) but turns out his official title in English is Speaker of the National Assembly, is really going strong in the finish-line of the EU election campaign (of which will be a landslide for Fidesz regardless of him).

Earlier he had a declaration he has actually backtracked from since, lamenting that the mislead European public is making a grave error thinking climate change is the prime danger, when in fact it is migration.

And now on some public event he has declared that "normal homosexuals" realise "they are not equal" to heterosexuals, therefore they do not try to push through horrific things like gay marriage or gay couple being allowed to adopt.

In fact on adoption rights he compared the idea (of gay couples adopting) to legalising pedophilia.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1885 on: May 16, 2019, 06:52:50 am »




They are the Nemzeti Legio (National Legion) led by a guy who serverd in the French Foreign one.

Good to see the US Army's old camo still has a market...

It feels hard to blame the UK for wanting out of the EU if there seems to be no desire for Hungary getting kicked out.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1886 on: May 16, 2019, 08:19:41 am »


It feels hard to blame the UK for wanting out of the EU if there seems to be no desire for Hungary getting kicked out.

OTOH, both issues are not linked at all.  :P

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1887 on: May 16, 2019, 11:04:38 am »
It feels hard to blame the UK for wanting out of the EU if there seems to be no desire for Hungary getting kicked out.
Britain has made considerable steps into a populist right authoritarian direction based on English nationalism as well. Let's hope it does not continue going in that direction.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1888 on: May 29, 2019, 04:03:03 am »
Following an actually fairly successful (in terms of attendants) school-strike protest as part of the coordinated European effort last week, and the European success of greens (in Hungary there's one nominally green party but they are inept and financed by the son of a rabid Orbanist oligarch, so they got destroyed), the Hungarian government seems to be really leaning into climate change denial with steadily increasing fervour these last few days.

It is mainly portrayed now as the effort of Soros to switch attention from The Real Issue (mass migration of unwashed coloureds), and as a strong economic lobby for profit, like evil EU's effort to destroy the car industry for... profit.

I wonder what their poor puppet President of Hungary is going to do. His constitutional role would be to guard against governmental excess but he is just a signature-signing droid, and has been using climate concerns to pretend he is working on something. Going to have to find something else I guess.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1889 on: May 29, 2019, 04:06:38 am »
It feels hard to blame the UK for wanting out of the EU if there seems to be no desire for Hungary getting kicked out.
Britain has made considerable steps into a populist right authoritarian direction based on English nationalism as well. Let's hope it does not continue going in that direction.

So what you are saying is, wherever Tamas goes becomes a right-wing populist shithole? :P