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Admiral Yi

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1830 on: March 20, 2019, 03:50:44 pm »
So when they joined the EPP in the first place it must have been a Soros-Junker plot?
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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1831 on: March 24, 2019, 07:33:19 am »
So after about a week (before the EPP gathering) of drastically cutting back on anti-foreigner bullshit, and freshly achieving the victory of suspension, Orban is now back in force: now "Brussels" isn't only to blame for plans of mass migration and a program of Islamising Europe, they also "deliberately make the Hungarian people" overpay on utilities.

If this BS doesn't subside after the European elections, I'll start thinking he is preparing a Hungarian exit from the EU.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1832 on: March 24, 2019, 08:36:58 am »
That's the EU for you; they are a kind of latter-day Mordor  :P

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1833 on: March 24, 2019, 10:06:47 am »
If this BS doesn't subside after the European elections, I'll start thinking he is preparing a Hungarian exit from the EU.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1834 on: March 24, 2019, 01:17:56 pm »
Utilities as in water and electricity?  What does JunkerSoros have  to do with that?
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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1835 on: March 24, 2019, 02:35:30 pm »
Utilities as in water and electricity?  What does JunkerSoros have  to do with that?

Well it was the key point of the 2014 election campaign. I mean the government forcing companies to lower prices and also forcing them to showcase this fact on all bills.

The iron there, BTW, is that gas (with which most homes are heated) is not cheap at all, comparatively, especially during those days. Primary reason for that has been the middle-man company installed between the gas imports and the buyers in Hungary by the state - a middle-man company with lots of ties to Orban and his circle.

So this is also a reach back to a familiar election-winning narrative, so might be just a half-desperate run out of ideas.

But on the long run, a "showdown" with the EU is inevitable. Orban has been gradually but constantly escalating things since 2002. His only reason de e'tre politically since then has been a siege mentality instilled into his followers then later the country. He cannot de-escalate or afford to run out of enemies because then the reason to put up with his numerous shits (of which most of his voters are well aware but put up with) will cease and he'll be out.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1836 on: March 24, 2019, 03:55:31 pm »
Thanks, but I still don't understand what that has to do with the EU.
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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1837 on: March 24, 2019, 04:11:45 pm »
Thanks, but I still don't understand what that has to do with the EU.

Precisely.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1838 on: March 24, 2019, 06:37:15 pm »
But on the long run, a "showdown" with the EU is inevitable. Orban has been gradually but constantly escalating things since 2002. His only reason de e'tre politically since then has been a siege mentality instilled into his followers then later the country. He cannot de-escalate or afford to run out of enemies because then the reason to put up with his numerous shits (of which most of his voters are well aware but put up with) will cease and he'll be out.

He sounds like a cult leader :hmm:
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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1839 on: March 25, 2019, 11:55:38 am »
But on the long run, a "showdown" with the EU is inevitable. Orban has been gradually but constantly escalating things since 2002. His only reason de e'tre politically since then has been a siege mentality instilled into his followers then later the country. He cannot de-escalate or afford to run out of enemies because then the reason to put up with his numerous shits (of which most of his voters are well aware but put up with) will cease and he'll be out.

He sounds like a cult leader :hmm:

Well, yes.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1840 on: March 25, 2019, 11:58:13 am »
Today the Foreign Minister (I shudder every time when I realise that clown is Hungary's foreign minister) rose in Parliament to update everyone on Teh Dangers.

Apparently, "Brussels" now wants the UN Migration Accord (some recently accepted wish-washy nothing) be "mandatory for all member states", therefore the "disputes with Brussels over migration are far from over" in fact "a new battle is about to begin, against secret Brusselian plans for migration".

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1841 on: March 26, 2019, 10:27:36 am »


This is "Soros's Budapest HQ" where "they hold Jewish Purim parties", according to some pro-government "journalist".

It is a fairly run-down pub/club called Aurora in a fairly run-down district of Budapest. As the name suggests it is a gathering place of the far-left\communist\punk youth.

I never even heard about it before the district's Fidesz-led leadership started a campaign against them to have them closed. But since then my respect has grown for them, even though I am pretty sure their politics isn't really for me. They have been fighting and the local powers have not found a legal way to get rid of them.

I especially liked their clientele when they recently made a stand.

Lately, there's a new and "ambitious" little group of right-wing "bloggers" a few bald-headed footbal hooligans, who go to opposition events and stream live as they try to bully the event into silence. They have not resorted to actual violence, but there was plenty of implying it. All their targets handled it with dignity and bravery but of course you have to be careful as who knows whom the police would support/help.

Anyways, 3 of these skinheads went one night to this Aurora pub because there was some kind of a political discussion event, and they streamed live as usual. However, they miscalculated, because they ended up overnumbered by the pub's clientele who stopped them outside the venue, in a live-streamed exchange of mild and not-so-mild insults. I saw the recording and I must say it was satisfying to see and hear those fascists noticably cowed by the realisation that their supposed victims are quite ready to fight back. They ended up retreating. 

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1842 on: March 26, 2019, 10:36:01 am »
It is a fairly run-down pub/club called Aurora in a fairly run-down district of Budapest. As the name suggests it is a gathering place of the far-left\communist\punk youth.

How old are you? 50 something?  :lol: That looks like your run of the mill hippie/alternative/hipster hangout that you find in almost any big city in the Western world.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1843 on: March 26, 2019, 11:23:52 am »
It is a fairly run-down pub/club called Aurora in a fairly run-down district of Budapest. As the name suggests it is a gathering place of the far-left\communist\punk youth.

How old are you? 50 something?  :lol: That looks like your run of the mill hippie/alternative/hipster hangout that you find in almost any big city in the Western world.


 :rolleyes: I know. FFS Budapest has about 300 of them. But the Aurora IS a gathering place of far-leftists.

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Re: Hungarian Politics
« Reply #1844 on: March 26, 2019, 11:36:39 am »
It is a fairly run-down pub/club called Aurora in a fairly run-down district of Budapest. As the name suggests it is a gathering place of the far-left\communist\punk youth.

How old are you? 50 something?  :lol: That looks like your run of the mill hippie/alternative/hipster hangout that you find in almost any big city in the Western world.

 :rolleyes: I know. FFS Budapest has about 300 of them. But the Aurora IS a gathering place of far-leftists.

Then you should have shown a picture that doesn't make it look like a place that serves overpriced vegan smoothies while you surf the web on a Mac and discuss your plans about a new app.  :P