Academics Are Really, Really Worried About Their Freedom

Started by viper37, September 01, 2020, 12:09:59 PM

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Eddie Teach

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
It's not clear to me that they were asking for exams to be cancelled, or merely delayed.  In any event the professor is the adult here and should respond accordingly.
Agreed. Not sure if it's a firing offence but it's definitely inappropriate.
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Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 06, 2020, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
It's not clear to me that they were asking for exams to be cancelled, or merely delayed.  In any event the professor is the adult here and should respond accordingly.
Agreed. Not sure if it's a firing offence but it's definitely inappropriate.

It should not be a firing offence, but was still inappropriate.
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Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Oexmelin

Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 06, 2020, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
In any event the professor is the adult here

So college professors should treat their students like children?

No, they just shouldn't be jerks.

There was a way to decline the demand without being a condescending prick. 
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Quote from: Oexmelin on September 06, 2020, 11:44:03 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 06, 2020, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
In any event the professor is the adult here

So college professors should treat their students like children?

No, they just shouldn't be jerks.

There was a way to decline the demand without being a condescending prick.


Wait, really?  Cause I've had that problem my entire life.
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Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 06, 2020, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
It's not clear to me that they were asking for exams to be cancelled, or merely delayed.  In any event the professor is the adult here and should respond accordingly.
Agreed. Not sure if it's a firing offence but it's definitely inappropriate.

It should not be a firing offence, but was still inappropriate.
Termination of employment was the only recourse that would have satisfied anyone. 
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 10:29:37 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 06, 2020, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
In any event the professor is the adult here

So college professors should treat their students like children?

Google in loco parentis.

Case law would be better than google in this circumstance.  Eddie is correct.  Universities do not owe a loco parentis obligation to students. You are getting that mixed up with high school.

Oex's response is much better.  University professors should not be condescending pricks. 

crazy canuck

Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 06, 2020, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 06, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
It's not clear to me that they were asking for exams to be cancelled, or merely delayed.  In any event the professor is the adult here and should respond accordingly.
Agreed. Not sure if it's a firing offence but it's definitely inappropriate.

It should not be a firing offence, but was still inappropriate.

Why?  In your opinion what would be grounds for termination?

viper37

Quote from: crazy canuck on September 17, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
Oex's response is much better.  University professors should not be condescending pricks. 
they should also have the capacity to transmit information to their students in a way they can comprehend at their level.  they should also have a genuine interest in teaching students at the level they are, not only doing research with a few assistant.

But that does not always happen either.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on September 17, 2020, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 17, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
Oex's response is much better.  University professors should not be condescending pricks. 
they should also have the capacity to transmit information to their students in a way they can comprehend at their level.  they should also have a genuine interest in teaching students at the level they are, not only doing research with a few assistant.

But that does not always happen either.

Not always, but often.

11B4V

Quote from: viper37 on September 17, 2020, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 17, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
Oex's response is much better.  University professors should not be condescending pricks. 
they should also have the capacity to transmit information to their students in a way they can comprehend at their level.  they should also have a genuine interest in teaching students at the level they are, not only doing research with a few assistant.

But that does not always happen either.

It's obvious they don't teach grammar or punctuation too.
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Quote from: 11B4V on September 17, 2020, 05:55:57 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 17, 2020, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 17, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
Oex's response is much better.  University professors should not be condescending pricks. 
they should also have the capacity to transmit information to their students in a way they can comprehend at their level.  they should also have a genuine interest in teaching students at the level they are, not only doing research with a few assistant.

But that does not always happen either.

It's obvious they don't teach grammar or punctuation too.

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crazy canuck

Quote from: grumbler on September 17, 2020, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 17, 2020, 05:55:57 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 17, 2020, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 17, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
Oex's response is much better.  University professors should not be condescending pricks. 
they should also have the capacity to transmit information to their students in a way they can comprehend at their level.  they should also have a genuine interest in teaching students at the level they are, not only doing research with a few assistant.

But that does not always happen either.

It's obvious they don't teach grammar or punctuation too.

:lol:

When you can converse fluently in a second language you might be able to comment on the linguistic shortcomings of another person speaking a second language.  But after reaching that level of sophistication you will likely have realized it would not be appropriate to be so childish. 

In the meantime, keep up the stereotype of the Ugly American.