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Started by Maladict, October 07, 2019, 06:37:53 AM

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Habbaku

#45
October 09, 2019, 09:13:11 AM
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Razgovory

#46
October 09, 2019, 10:39:13 AM
This is monstrous. :mellow:
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Tamas

#47
October 09, 2019, 10:48:40 AM
I am hoping at least Turkey is cancelling the military equipment deal with Russia in exchange, although I don't really expect the Donald to strike any deals apart from family business ones.

Sheilbh

#48
October 09, 2019, 02:22:24 PM
I always thought that if it came to a forced choice of Kurds or Turkey, the US would ultimately side with the Turks. What's extraordinary here is there is no forced choice, this is just because Trump chatted to Erdogan :(
Let's bomb Russia!

Valmy

#49
October 09, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 09, 2019, 02:22:24 PM
I always thought that if it came to a forced choice of Kurds or Turkey, the US would ultimately side with the Turks. What's extraordinary here is there is no forced choice, this is just because Trump chatted to Erdogan :(

That is not extraordinary. That is exactly how our foreign policy typically works during this administration.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#50
October 09, 2019, 02:30:06 PM
We have very few friends in the Middle East. Shame to see us betray one of those precious few for no reason at all.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Habbaku

#51
October 09, 2019, 02:31:24 PM
https://theweek.com/articles/870359/kurdish-solution-that-trump-wont-dare-contemplate


Settle the Kurds in the Tennesia Province and turn them into true Americans.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Habbaku

#52
October 09, 2019, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 09, 2019, 02:30:06 PM
We have very few friends in the Middle East. Shame to see us betray one of those precious few for no reason at all.

"Promise [Kurds] anything," Secretary of State Henry Kissinger infamously said, "give them what they get, and fuck them if they can't take a joke."
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

chipwich

#53
October 09, 2019, 02:35:59 PM
The overwhelming fact is the protecting the Kurds is much more of a liability than strategic value. I wish taht weren't so but it is.

Admiral Yi

#54
October 09, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: chipwich on October 09, 2019, 02:35:59 PM
The overwhelming fact is the protecting the Kurds is much more of a liability than strategic value. I wish taht weren't so but it is.

They weren't such a liability while killing ISIS.

Habbaku

#55
October 09, 2019, 02:44:25 PM
Show your work. What is the overwhelming liability of protecting them?
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

mongers

#56
October 09, 2019, 02:48:15 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 09, 2019, 02:22:24 PM
I always thought that if it came to a forced choice of Kurds or Turkey, the US would ultimately side with the Turks. What's extraordinary here is there is no forced choice, this is just because Trump chatted to Erdogan Putin's agenda in the the Middle East needed to be advanced. :(

FYP
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

FunkMonk

#57
October 09, 2019, 02:50:56 PM
America sucks man
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

chipwich

#58
October 09, 2019, 03:01:07 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 09, 2019, 02:44:25 PM
Show your work. What is the overwhelming liability of protecting them?

They want independence are spread out between their four neighbors each of which don't want them to gain independence.

Strategic value: None, the US shouldn't be there anyway.

chipwich

#59
October 09, 2019, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 09, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: chipwich on October 09, 2019, 02:35:59 PM
The overwhelming fact is the protecting the Kurds is much more of a liability than strategic value. I wish taht weren't so but it is.

They weren't such a liability while killing ISIS.

Killing ISIS was not that important to the US, not with the immense number of enemies ISIS had anyways.
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