The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

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11B4V

#990
February 01, 2020, 03:32:14 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on February 01, 2020, 02:15:29 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 01, 2020, 11:18:47 AM
Presuming that there will still be significantly support for Trump and his sycophants come November, what has to happen for this deep division in the American political landscape to mend?
Violence and bloodshed I fear.  I don't see anything else truly making a difference.  Hopefully riots, protests, and small scale things only and not a full blown collapse.  This isn't just about Trump.  It goes much deeper.  He's merely a symptom of the disease and not the disease itself.

Nothing

Lines have been draw. Identities taken and given. Both side view each other as the enemy. 

All that's left is for the shots to be fired.
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Razgovory

#991
February 01, 2020, 03:38:13 PM
Except that both sides don't view the other as an enemy.  The right openly discusses civil war.  They are stockpiling arms for the day when "the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of patriots.  The left is, for the most party, simply clueless about the hatred animating the right.


The only realistic chance to remove Trump from office would be for a state to bring charges against him.  That seems unlikely though and of dubious legality.
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11B4V

#992
February 01, 2020, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 01, 2020, 03:38:13 PM
Except that both sides don't view the other as an enemy.  The right openly discusses civil war.  They are stockpiling arms for the day when "the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of patriots.  The left is, for the most party, simply clueless about the hatred animating the right.


The only realistic chance to remove Trump from office would be for a state to bring charges against him.  That seems unlikely though and of dubious legality.

I'll disagree with that. I agree to disagree.

As far as the second paragraph; not going to happen. Trump has already proved the government is powerless to enforce the rule of law if a corrupt President is backed by a morally and ethically corrupt party.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Admiral Yi

#993
February 04, 2020, 07:49:24 PM
Collins says she will vote to acquit.

katmai

#994
February 04, 2020, 09:27:12 PM
But of course.
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Oexmelin

#995
February 04, 2020, 11:35:24 PM
This is a surprise? She's been playing that faux-moderate/true coward card for a while now.
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Habbaku

#996
February 05, 2020, 02:16:16 PM
Romney voting to convict. Holy hell.
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Valmy

#997
February 05, 2020, 02:17:02 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 05, 2020, 02:16:16 PM
Romney voting to convict. Holy hell.

Holy hell indeed.
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crazy canuck

#998
February 05, 2020, 02:19:16 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 05, 2020, 02:16:16 PM
Romney voting to convict. Holy hell.

One left in the party who can still say the emperor has no clothes.

The Minsky Moment

#999
February 05, 2020, 02:37:15 PM
And the last tattered, moldy, stink-ridden fig leaf covering the shame of GOP - that this is was a 100% purely "partisan" impeachment  - falls.
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Barrister

#1000
February 05, 2020, 02:43:04 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 05, 2020, 02:37:15 PM
And the last tattered, moldy, stink-ridden fig leaf covering the shame of GOP - that this is was a 100% purely "partisan" impeachment  - falls.

Meh - they'll just pillory Romney as a RINO NeverTrumper.  Needed a few more Rs to vote for removal to make it a stronger argument.
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Valmy

#1001
February 05, 2020, 02:50:01 PM
Romney is invincible in Utah, he gives no shits.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

crazy canuck

#1002
February 05, 2020, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2020, 02:50:01 PM
Romney is invincible in Utah, he gives no shits.

Or more to the point.  He does.  :)

grumbler

#1003
February 05, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2020, 02:43:04 PM
Meh - they'll just pillory Romney as a RINO NeverTrumper.  Needed a few more Rs to vote for removal to make it a stronger argument.

"They" can say whatever they want, of course, but the "purely partisan" label fails by definition.

The utter cowardice of the Republican senate does demonstrate, though, that the party is utterly irredeemable and must be replaced, not reformed.
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The Minsky Moment

#1004
February 05, 2020, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2020, 02:43:04 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 05, 2020, 02:37:15 PM
And the last tattered, moldy, stink-ridden fig leaf covering the shame of GOP - that this is was a 100% purely "partisan" impeachment  - falls.

Meh - they'll just pillory Romney as a RINO NeverTrumper.

That's like fake Mel Gibson Scotsmen making a No True Scotsman argument against a real Scotsman.
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