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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #615 on: December 04, 2019, 05:58:57 pm »
NPR is airing live.

What I don't understand is how Fox News can get away with not broadcasting this stuff live.  I mean sure, have your talking heads be all negative about it, but to just pretend it isn't happening?

It's harder to deny something when it you capture it on live television.  The Fox News response to the Mulveny admission was to claim that it was taken out of context by evil media figures, and not to share their tapes to on television.  You wouldn't think a thing like that would work, but four decades of claiming media bias made it possible.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #616 on: December 04, 2019, 09:26:05 pm »
This could be fucking magical, especially if he demands to testify himself

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1202383863240114176
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A top White House official said Wednesday that Pres. Trump is demanding a full trial, featuring live witnesses in the Senate chamber if and when the House sends over articles of impeachment to the Senate later this month. https://
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #617 on: December 04, 2019, 09:29:57 pm »
Featuring live witnesses? :unsure:
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #618 on: December 04, 2019, 09:41:21 pm »
Featuring live witnesses? :unsure:

Dead witnesses tell no tales.  There will be a mysterious outbreak of food poisoning that will kill off Trump's cabinet and staff.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #619 on: December 04, 2019, 10:12:46 pm »
Is this the brilliant idea to keep Warren and Sanders in the Senate all the time that our master strategist Legbiter recommended? Being on TV all the time flinging metaphorical darts at Trump won't help them at all.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #620 on: December 05, 2019, 04:01:41 pm »
Being on TV all the time flinging metaphorical darts at Trump won't help them at all.

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #621 on: December 05, 2019, 04:03:43 pm »
Legbiter, I've been thinking about your "hype" comment and what it means.  Care to elaborate?
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #622 on: December 05, 2019, 06:03:14 pm »
Being on TV all the time flinging metaphorical darts at Trump won't help them at all.

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Really don't see how this helps Mitch in the senate. Blue or swing state senators vote to acquit and they'll have big turn out against them ala 2018. They vote to convict and they'll get primaried by fanatics and either lose to them or lose in the general because the base doesn't turn out.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #623 on: December 05, 2019, 07:03:03 pm »
Being on TV all the time flinging metaphorical darts at Trump won't help them at all.

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Yep.  Moscow Mitch is going to keep the 23 Republicans who are desperate to defend their seats in Washington along with the 13 equivalent Democrats.  He's stupid enough to lose the Senate while not helping Trump at all.  With Friends like Mitch, the teabaggers need no enemies.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #624 on: December 06, 2019, 01:35:47 am »
So is there actual hope of the Senate flipping to Dems? When is the next election?

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #625 on: December 06, 2019, 02:09:39 am »
So is there actual hope of the Senate flipping to Dems? When is the next election?

They need 3 if they win the presidency, 4 if they don't. 23 Republican seats are up, only 13 Democratic seats. November 2020.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #626 on: December 06, 2019, 09:29:23 am »
So is there actual hope of the Senate flipping to Dems? When is the next election?

They need 3 if they win the presidency, 4 if they don't. 23 Republican seats are up, only 13 Democratic seats. November 2020.

The Democrats would basically need to run the table.  If you imagine an environment where the overall national mood is Democrats by about 7 points (slightly under 2018), it could happen.  Some context:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/were-checking-in-on-all-those-2020-senate-races-a-few-gop-incumbents-look-vulnerable/

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #627 on: December 06, 2019, 09:29:36 am »
So is there actual hope of the Senate flipping to Dems? When is the next election?


Actual? Yes. Likely? No. The main problem is that Doug Jones was incredibly lucky in Alabama and lightening is unlikely to strike twice (though with the current state of the Republicans you never know...) so the Democrats are almost certain to lose one. So in order to win control the Democrats have to sweep the five reasonably contested seats.

But unlike in 2018 the seats that are up are at least mostly Republican.
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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #628 on: December 08, 2019, 02:28:38 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=admcxaVXn0w

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Re: The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump
« Reply #629 on: December 08, 2019, 05:44:29 pm »
So is there actual hope of the Senate flipping to Dems? When is the next election?

They need 3 if they win the presidency, 4 if they don't. 23 Republican seats are up, only 13 Democratic seats. November 2020.

The Democrats would basically need to run the table.  If you imagine an environment where the overall national mood is Democrats by about 7 points (slightly under 2018), it could happen.  Some context:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/were-checking-in-on-all-those-2020-senate-races-a-few-gop-incumbents-look-vulnerable/

Collins, Gardner, Tillis and McSally are pretty vulnerable. If a democrat wins the presidency, going three out of four among them doesn't seem that unlikely.
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