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End of WW2 - 75th anniversary

Started by Maladict, June 05, 2019, 08:03:02 AM

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Josquius

All those nations suffered through the war. Which side they were on is irrelevant
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grumbler

Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:04:56 AM
All those nations suffered through the war. Which side they were on is irrelevant
That's not what the tweet says, though.  And arguing that "[w]hich side they were on is irrelevant" makes a mockery of the idea that taking the correct side on critical issues is important.  It is very relevant indeed "which side they were on" in WW2.
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Bayraktar!

Josquius

Quote from: grumbler on June 09, 2019, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:04:56 AM
All those nations suffered through the war. Which side they were on is irrelevant
That's not what the tweet says, though.  And arguing that "[w]hich side they were on is irrelevant" makes a mockery of the idea that taking the correct side on critical issues is important.  It is very relevant indeed "which side they were on" in WW2.
That's the sort of attitude that leads to hostility never ending
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Maladict

Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 09, 2019, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:04:56 AM
All those nations suffered through the war. Which side they were on is irrelevant
That's not what the tweet says, though.  And arguing that "[w]hich side they were on is irrelevant" makes a mockery of the idea that taking the correct side on critical issues is important.  It is very relevant indeed "which side they were on" in WW2.
That's the sort of attitude that leads to hostility never ending

Not if all parties agree, and postwar Germany has done a good job at that.

garbon

Quote from: grumbler on June 09, 2019, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:04:56 AM
All those nations suffered through the war. Which side they were on is irrelevant
That's not what the tweet says, though.  And arguing that "[w]hich side they were on is irrelevant" makes a mockery of the idea that taking the correct side on critical issues is important.  It is very relevant indeed "which side they were on" in WW2.

Well the actual tweet (now apparently deleted) was a video. The clip I just saw had the queen starting shaking the hand of the woman before Merkel hand and then it ends on her shaking Merkel's hand.
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Zanza

It was a funny mishap by whoever tweets on that account, no more no less.

grumbler

Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 09, 2019, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:04:56 AM
All those nations suffered through the war. Which side they were on is irrelevant
That's not what the tweet says, though.  And arguing that "[w]hich side they were on is irrelevant" makes a mockery of the idea that taking the correct side on critical issues is important.  It is very relevant indeed "which side they were on" in WW2.
That's the sort of attitude that leads to hostility never ending

Quite untrue.  It is the idea that it doesn't matter what side you fight on that makes for hostility never ending.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

grumbler

Quote from: Zanza on June 09, 2019, 12:38:17 PM
It was a funny mishap by whoever tweets on that account, no more no less.

Agreed.  Trump's use of D-Day as an example of American-German cooperation was a lot funnier, but this was pretty funny. Absent the tweet, the shaking of hands was quite ordinary, and Merkel is, I am sure, as happy about the ultimate results of D-Day as is Elizabeth II or anyone else there.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

dps

Quote from: grumbler on June 09, 2019, 07:45:40 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 09, 2019, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 09, 2019, 10:04:56 AM
All those nations suffered through the war. Which side they were on is irrelevant
That's not what the tweet says, though.  And arguing that "[w]hich side they were on is irrelevant" makes a mockery of the idea that taking the correct side on critical issues is important.  It is very relevant indeed "which side they were on" in WW2.
That's the sort of attitude that leads to hostility never ending

Quite untrue.  It is the idea that it doesn't matter what side you fight on that makes for hostility never ending.

Well, actually, Tyr's attitude only leads to hostility never ending if you believe that stupidity inevitably leads to hostility.

Valmy

I want to see Trump, May, and Putin re-enact that famous shot of the Big 3 at Yalta.
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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on June 09, 2019, 08:35:03 PM
I want to see Trump, May, and Putin re-enact that famous shot of the Big 3 at Yalta.

I would like to see that, somehow with the addition of May walking into the shot like in her meme.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Valmy on June 09, 2019, 08:35:03 PM
I want to see Trump, May, and Putin re-enact that famous shot of the Big 3 at Yalta.

The little 3?

History repeats itself, the first time as a tragedy, the second time as a farce?

Last time we sent a physical cripple to the meeting, this time a mental cripple.
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dps

Quote from: alfred russel on June 10, 2019, 11:43:09 AM


Last time we sent a physical cripple to the meeting, this time a mental cripple.


That's kind of cruel, but it's funny 'cause it's true.

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on June 09, 2019, 08:35:03 PM
I want to see Trump, May, and Putin re-enact that famous shot of the Big 3 at Yalta.

I imagine bringing in Putin to honor Russian contributions to D-day would not go well.
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