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Started by celedhring, May 26, 2019, 12:22:14 PM

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Josquius



:D

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 26, 2019, 06:44:33 PM
Looking on the bright side the chances that the tories will become a no-account minority party have increased  :cool:


It has taken a decade longer than it should have done but hopefully my dream shall finally come true and the Lib Dems shall reclaim their spot as the second party of the UK.
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celedhring

Cunt parties failed to get 1/3 of the European Parliament (they barely get 1/4). For now, crisis averted.



What will happen to British MEPs once they pull out?

Syt

7 of Vienna's 23 districts were carried by the Greens. Social Democrats are strongest overall in Vienna. FPÖ at 15%.

In my district, Greens got over 30% of the vote. I assume this is largely due to the high number of EU students in the district who aren't allowed to vote in national or state elections (normally, Greens and Conservatives are about equal in my district).
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Maladict

Quote from: celedhring on May 27, 2019, 01:34:33 AM
Cunt parties failed to get 1/3 of the European Parliament (they barely get 1/4). For now, crisis averted.



What will happen to British MEPs once they pull out?

Seats will be divided proportionally. We get three of their seats, unfortunately one will go to Wilders' party which got completely wiped out as it stands now.

Liep

37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

garbon

Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.

Well that's a little higher than British turnout in 2014.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Liep

Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2019, 03:33:50 AM
Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.

Well that's a little higher than British turnout in 2014.

So they never cared.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Tamas

Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2019, 03:33:50 AM
Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.

Well that's a little higher than British turnout in 2014.

It does seem to confirm that people don't REALLY care about EU membership, though. I know its usually this low in other EU countries as well but this was a very important one for the UK, possibly the last chance for the electorate to signal their preference before Brexit actually happens. Their preference is... to be left alone with the whole thing.

Solmyr

#38
Finnish election results

NCP 20.8 % (3 seats) - centre-right liberals/conservatives, pro-EU, in EPP
GREENS 16% (2 seats) - lefty-ish, pro-EU, in Greens/EFA
SDP 14.6% (2 seats) - social democrats, currently trying to form the next government, pro-EU, in S&D
FINNS 13.8% (2 seats) - far right nationalists, rivals for top spot domestically, anti-EU, in ECR
CEN 13.5% (2 seats) - centrists (generally conservative), somewhat divided on EU, in ALDE
LEFT 6.9% (1 seat) - mainstream leftists, pro-EU, in GUE/NGL
SPP 6.3% (1 seat) - Swedish speakers, generally liberal, pro-EU, in ALDE

Change from last distribution is Centrists losing a seat and Greens gaining one. So basically Finland is pretty pro-EU, even though currently the anti-EU nationalists are one of the biggest parties here (maybe even the biggest atm, they just barely missed the first spot in the national elections last month).

Also, Finland won the ice hockey gold. :D

celedhring

#39
Over here:

PSOE 32.8 (20 seats) - socialdemocrats, in S&D
PP 20.1 (12 seats) - conservatives, in EPP
Cs 12.2 (7 seats) - liberals, in ALDE
Podemos 10.1 (6 seats) - lefties, in GUE/NGL
Vox 6.2 (3 seats) - far right, ungrouped but will probably end up in ECR
Ahora Repúblicas 5.6 (3 seats) - lefty basque & catalan separatists, in Greens/EFA
Lliures a Europa 4.6 (2 seats) - conservative catalan separatists, just got kicked out from ALDE
CEUS 2.8 (1 seat) - conservative basque nationalists and some other assorted conservative regionalists, in ALDE

The socialists get a pretty big win, and overall anti-EU parties (Vox, some of the separatists) send a small contingent.



Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.

They care about their families, friends, jobs and going down the pub for a drink and a chat.....which is very sensible of them  :cool:

With the exception of my immediate circle (political nerds) I've been totally reliant on the media for saying that people care about brexit and the EU. The general public, at least here, are not really very interested.

The crisis is self-generated by the political class; their reputation continues to fall.

garbon

Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:36:18 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2019, 03:33:50 AM
Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.

Well that's a little higher than British turnout in 2014.

So they never cared.

Perhaps, though if we look here for 2014, UK hasn't had no company near the bottom. Netherlands were only 37% at last election (42% in this one).

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/elections2014-results/en/turnout.html

https://www.politico.eu/interactive/voters-turnout-in-the-european-elections/
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Duque de Bragança

French results



The Greens are third, biggest surprise. However, the second on their list, Michèle Rivasi is a well-known anti-vaxxer, who claims to be merely "vaccine-critic" and anti "Big Pharma".  :x
She organised for instance a screening of Andrew Wakefield's Vaxxed in Brussels. Tried to screen it at the European parliament but was prevented to do so. That was too much, even if paid by European taxpayer money.
Anti-vaccine rhetoric was toned down during the campaign but now it's party time!

Maladict

Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2019, 05:54:35 AM
Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:36:18 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2019, 03:33:50 AM
Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.

Well that's a little higher than British turnout in 2014.

So they never cared.

Perhaps, though if we look here for 2014, UK hasn't had no company near the bottom. Netherlands were only 37% at last election (42% in this one).

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/elections2014-results/en/turnout.html

https://www.politico.eu/interactive/voters-turnout-in-the-european-elections/

We've always had low turnout for EU elections. I think the point is the UK has a lot more at stake this time around, you'd expect a higher turnout.

garbon

Quote from: Maladict on May 27, 2019, 06:34:51 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2019, 05:54:35 AM
Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:36:18 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 27, 2019, 03:33:50 AM
Quote from: Liep on May 27, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
37% voted in Britain, can't we conclude that they don't really care? That way they can just carry on and stay in without bothering that many.

Well that's a little higher than British turnout in 2014.

So they never cared.

Perhaps, though if we look here for 2014, UK hasn't had no company near the bottom. Netherlands were only 37% at last election (42% in this one).

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/elections2014-results/en/turnout.html

https://www.politico.eu/interactive/voters-turnout-in-the-european-elections/

We've always had low turnout for EU elections. I think the point is the UK has a lot more at stake this time around, you'd expect a higher turnout.

If the UK is leaving, how important are the EU elections beyond signaling?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.