What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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derspiess

At least they're Democratic Socialists. 
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Syt

Wasn't the GOP about deficit reduction at some point?`

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/u-s-budget-deficit-hits-widest-on-record-for-month-of-november

QuoteU.S. Budget Deficit Hits Widest on Record for Month of November

The U.S. posted the widest November budget deficit on record as spending doubled revenue.

Outlays jumped 18 percent to $411 billion last month, while receipts were little changed at $206 billion, the Treasury Department said in a monthly report on Thursday. That left a $205 billion shortfall, compared with a $139 billion gap a year earlier.

The U.S. ran the largest deficit in six years in fiscal 2018, the first full year of Donald Trump's presidency when his Republican party enacted a tax-cut package and raised federal spending for the military and other priorities. The measures have added to the growing federal deficit, which is forecast to push past $1 trillion by 2020 when the U.S. next holds presidential elections.

In the first two months of the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, the gap widened to $305.4 billion, compared with $201.8 billion the same period a year earlier.

Spending on Department of Defense military programs rose 18 percent in October and November from the same two months a year earlier, while outlays for total interest on the public debt jumped by 7 percent.
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derspiess

Yeah.  Unfortunately Compassionate Conservatism and then Populism happened :mellow:
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Valmy

Austerity now!

Yes it is really frustrating.
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Camerus

Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 13, 2018, 11:41:09 PM
Alternative question: why does Mono drop the apolitical facade when discussing western leaders?   :hmm:

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Habbaku

GOP running up record deficits? Better vote for them again so we don't spend too much!
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 14, 2018, 11:21:49 AM
Quote from: Barrister on December 14, 2018, 10:48:19 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on December 14, 2018, 02:15:08 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on December 13, 2018, 06:14:18 PM
While true, the Right has been particularly frothy over Hillary, Pelosi, Obama, and Maxine Waters over the past several years to decade plus.  I don't think anyone else can come close to reaching the level of instant base rallying that invoking any of those four can.

Coming right up: Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez.

I don't get it - why is some first term member of congress suddenly such a big deal?  I know winning the nomination over an established member was news at the time, but why has that continued?

Because it means SOCIALISM is coming.  SOCIALISM!  And Puerto Ricans.  Finger wagging Puerto Rican SOCIALISTS taking away all our guns.  With their socialist socialism.


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Syt

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 14, 2018, 11:21:49 AM
Because it means SOCIALISM is coming.  SOCIALISM!  And Puerto Ricans.  Finger wagging Puerto Rican SOCIALISTS taking away all our guns.  With their socialist socialism.

Considering that my sister just shared an article that's OMG 2ND AMENDMENT DEAD because New Jersey moves to make it criminal to share instructions for 3D printing guns, I think you're onto something there. :P
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Barrister

Quote from: Habbaku on December 14, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
GOP running up record deficits? Better vote for them again so we don't spend too much!

But the choice appears to be between a party that promises to cut the deficit but doesn't, and a party that doesn't think the deficit is much of a concern.
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on December 14, 2018, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 14, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
GOP running up record deficits? Better vote for them again so we don't spend too much!

But the choice appears to be between a party that promises to cut the deficit but doesn't, and a party that doesn't think the deficit is much of a concern.

It doesn't promise any such thing. It promises policies that will expand the deficit.

Anyway if the deficit is going to be cut then taxes need to raised back to 90s levels. The chances of the Republicans doing that is about 0.0000000001% these days so any statement they have of reducing the deficit are lies at worst, delusion at best. Austerity is: increased taxes plus spending cuts.
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Admiral Yi

Yeah, I can't think of anybody in the GOP talking about deficit reduction since the days of Graham-Rudman.

Well, David Stockman keeps going on, but no one listens to him.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Syt on December 14, 2018, 01:38:19 PM
Considering that my sister just shared an article that's OMG 2ND AMENDMENT DEAD because New Jersey moves to make it criminal to share instructions for 3D printing guns, I think you're onto something there. :P

Especially since that's a FIRST amendment issue, not a second amendment one.
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Valmy

Quote from: Syt on December 14, 2018, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 14, 2018, 11:21:49 AM
Because it means SOCIALISM is coming.  SOCIALISM!  And Puerto Ricans.  Finger wagging Puerto Rican SOCIALISTS taking away all our guns.  With their socialist socialism.

Considering that my sister just shared an article that's OMG 2ND AMENDMENT DEAD because New Jersey moves to make it criminal to share instructions for 3D printing guns, I think you're onto something there. :P

Well at least you can be sure she will never go back to Germany again, since she cannot take her arsenal with her.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall