What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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The Minsky Moment

#24525
February 11, 2020, 07:06:24 PM
FWIW I think the rec on Stone was overly harsh.
That doesn't justify what BarrTrump did.  Not in the least. 
Stone has effective counsel who can argue the sentence.
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Razgovory

#24526
February 12, 2020, 12:50:56 AM
Trump is withdrawing a Treasury nominee that oversaw the Roger Stone prosecution.  DG once made a joke about the old Soviet Union that really stuck with me.  "The Soviet Union had elections, and unlike the US these elections really mattered.  If you voted for the wrong person people would come to your door in the middle of the night and drag you off to prison."  It seems we are moving in that direction now.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Syt

#24527
February 12, 2020, 12:52:10 AM
The prosecutors in the Stone case have all resigned.
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crazy canuck

#24528
February 12, 2020, 08:27:32 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 12, 2020, 12:52:10 AM
The prosecutors in the Stone case have all resigned.

And the Trumpists will applaud this as further purging of the deep state actors unwilling to carry out the dear leader's wishes.

The Minsky Moment

#24529
February 13, 2020, 12:50:51 AM
Trump today said today in reference to the Stone sentence that "murderers and drug addicts" don't get 9 years.

That's not quite right
Under the sentencing guidelines, second degree murder has a base offense level of 38.  Assuming a best conceivable case scenario of no upward adjustments, a guilty plea and full acceptance of responsibility and a totally clean past record, the range is about 14 to 18 years, quite a bit more than 9 years.

He's right about drug addicts though - you can't get 9 years for drug addiction.  You don't get any years for that because drug addiction is not a crime. 
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Admiral Yi

#24530
February 13, 2020, 12:55:53 AM
Not even socialists and journalists get 9 years.

The Brain

#24531
February 13, 2020, 02:37:04 AM
Trump gets at least 8 years though.
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The Minsky Moment

#24532
February 13, 2020, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: The Brain on February 13, 2020, 02:37:04 AM
Trump gets at least 8 years though.

That's our punishment, what's his?
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The Minsky Moment

#24533
February 13, 2020, 11:09:09 AM
The level of hypocrisy reached by the President and his defenders never ceases to amaze.  In an attempt to excuse what is obviously a corrupt intervention on behalf of a crony, Trump and his people are waxing lyrical about the unfairly harsh federal sentencing regime.  But it was the Trump administration in 2017 that reversed prior policy by *requiring* federal prosecutors to charge the most serious offense - with "serious" defined as the offense that will carry the highest sentence.  It also revoked memos giving prosecutors discretion not to seek certain sentencing enhancements, as well as a memo that counseled prosecutors not to base decisions to seek a certain kind of common enhancement on the defendant's invoking the right to trial.

Some of the alleged problems with federal sentencing stem directly from this administration's "law and order" policies.
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Syt

#24534
February 13, 2020, 12:49:41 PM

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Barrister

#24535
February 13, 2020, 12:53:42 PM
Not sure if satire or not... :hmm:
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Syt

#24536
February 13, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
Original source: https://www.businessinsider.de/international/trump-asked-reince-priebus-about-wisconsin-badgers-2020-2/?r=US&IR=T

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,,After Trump was reminded that the short-legged omnivore was practically synonymous with the Badger State, he'd make a point of bringing it up at seemingly random occasions to his beleaguered chief of staff.

,,,Are they mean to people?' Trump at least twice asked Priebus in the opening months of his presidency. ,Or are they friendly creatures?' The president would also ask if Priebus had any photos of badgers he could show him, and if Priebus could carefully explain to him how badgers ,work' exactly.

,,He wanted Reince – resident White House badger historian, apparently – to explain to him Wisconsin's obsession with the animal, how the little critters function and behave, what kind of food they like, and how aggressive or deadly they could be when presented with perceived existential threats.

,,Trump also wanted to know if the badger had a ,personality' or if it was boring. What kind of damage could a badger to do a person with its flashy, sharp claws?

,,An obviously enthralled president would stare at Priebus as the aide struggled for sufficiently placating answers, all the while trying to gently veer the conversation back to whether we were going to do a troop surge in Afghanistan or strip millions of Americans of healthcare coverage."

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—Stephen Jay Gould

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Barrister

#24537
February 13, 2020, 01:03:01 PM
Dear Lord.
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Savonarola

#24538
February 13, 2020, 01:08:19 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 13, 2020, 12:49:41 PM



Badgers?  :mad: Badgers?  :mad: We don't need no stinkin' badgers.   :mad:

For fairness sake; I hope he asks Betsy Devos questions about wolverines.
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The Minsky Moment

#24539
February 13, 2020, 01:51:28 PM
The way this is going, he'll replace his entire cabinet with people from Colorado.
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