What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[DGuller]

My dad frequently says something like "give credit where credit is due, Putin has always been loyal to his friends".  I keep making an argument that this is not not an unqualified good, especially not for a law enforcement official, but I don't think I'm going to dent the result of decades of Soviet culture.

[Solmyr]

My dad frequently says something like "give credit where credit is due, Putin has always been loyal to his friends".  I keep making an argument that this is not not an unqualified good, especially not for a law enforcement official, but I don't think I'm going to dent the result of decades of Soviet culture.

And that statement isn't even correct.

[dps]

My dad frequently says something like "give credit where credit is due, Putin has always been loyal to his friends".  I keep making an argument that this is not not an unqualified good, especially not for a law enforcement official, but I don't think I'm going to dent the result of decades of Soviet culture.

Loyalty to one's friends is a virtue in a private citizen.  In a public official, it's closer to a vice.

[alfred russel]

I may have heard the dumbest comment yet about Trump today on the ITN News programme.
A reporter goes to NASA in Florida to interview 'space scientists' / NASA workers about trump, a young space scientist said this about Trump:

"There's so many things I disagree with, but I also applaud him for standing his ground and actually doing what he thinks is right"



Presumably if she'd been young in 1930s Germany she'd have been saying the same thing in 1933-38?

I don't see the fault in recognizing the virtues of deeply flawed and ultimately evil people. But in this case, while that statement may be made with accuracy regarding Hitler, as Malthus points out it almost certainly doesn't apply to Trump. In this case, he is literally worse than Hitler! 

[viper37]

CC wildly jumping to conclusions is a hallmark of every forum era though.

What conclusion should I have drawn from your comment?

that he is impressed by someone remembering or having handy access to, Dante's quotes.  It is a neutral comment.

[mongers]

I may have heard the dumbest comment yet about Trump today on the ITN News programme.
A reporter goes to NASA in Florida to interview 'space scientists' / NASA workers about trump, a young space scientist said this about Trump:

"There's so many things I disagree with, but I also applaud him for standing his ground and actually doing what he thinks is right"



Presumably if she'd been young in 1930s Germany she'd have been saying the same thing in 1933-38?

I don't see the fault in recognizing the virtues of deeply flawed and ultimately evil people. But in this case, while that statement may be made with accuracy regarding Hitler, as Malthus points out it almost certainly doesn't apply to Trump. In this case, he is literally worse than Hitler! 

Indeed.

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPNvzoY_F0

Senate votes to block arm sales to Saudi Arabia.  Not enough votes to overturn likely Trump veto.  Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul among those voting to block.

[alfred russel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPNvzoY_F0

Senate votes to block arm sales to Saudi Arabia.  Not enough votes to overturn likely Trump veto.  Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul among those voting to block.

Seems like a terrible idea at a moment when Iran may be getting belligerent.

[Maximus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPNvzoY_F0

Senate votes to block arm sales to Saudi Arabia.  Not enough votes to overturn likely Trump veto.  Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul among those voting to block.

Seems like a terrible idea at a moment when Iran may be getting belligerent.

Why would Iran get belligerent? They stand to gain nothing and to lose everything.

[alfred russel]

Why would Iran get belligerent? They stand to gain nothing and to lose everything.

Belligerence doesn't require all out war, but regardless I'm torn between two possible answers:

a) Because the government is ridiculous and needs to sustain its external enemies to avoid a critical mass of public discontent, or

b) why would we assume the government is a rational actor?

[Maximus]

Both of which fail Occam when put next to c) one of the other half-dozen actors who have more to gain are fomenting this.

[alfred russel]

Both of which fail Occam when put next to c) one of the other half-dozen actors who have more to gain are fomenting this.

I think false flag attacks are the most irrational action of all. Iran acts like an asshole? Nothing really new. One of the actors at least nominally allied to the west is discovered launching a false flag attack? That would be devestating, and with modern technology it is increasingly difficult to go undetected.

[Admiral Yi]

Tough to pin shooting down the drone on the UAE.

[Razgovory]

Both of which fail Occam when put next to c) one of the other half-dozen actors who have more to gain are fomenting this.

I think you need to look up what Occam's razor actually means.

[grumbler]

Both of which fail Occam when put next to c) one of the other half-dozen actors who have more to gain are fomenting this.

"Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily."  - William of Ockham