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Started by jimmy olsen, May 19, 2016, 10:30:37 PM

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Ed Anger

Good thing they didn't have a late night infomercial airing during my insomnia or I would have bought one.

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

crazy canuck

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 27, 2017, 11:27:11 AM
I guess you would get less range b/c of running the heater etc. and just generally lower battery performance.  But it still functions.

I bought my electric car earlier in the year and now that it is warming up I have noticed an increase in max range from 120 Km to more like 150.  Under ideal conditions the max is supposed to be 170 ish  Quebec has colder winters so the difference will be greater.

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

Solar and Wind are undergoing exponential growth

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1110677_soaring-growth-of-solar-power-demonstrated-in-one-chart

QuoteI made a graph showing the historic track record of the IEA in predicting solar: reality steeply increasing but IEA is having none of it.


Quotewind's watershed moment
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

The price is dropping like a rock

https://thinkprogress.org/arizona-utility-game-changing-solar-deal-8e7c0bcb093a

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Arizona utility signs game-changing deal cutting solar power prices in half

Tucson Electric Power to buy new solar power at under 3 cents per kWh, a "historically low price."

Remarkable drops in the cost of solar and wind power have effectively turned the global power market upside down in recent years.

We've seen prices for new solar farms below 3 cents per kilowatt hour (kwh) in other countries for over a year now, but before this week, not in the U.S. That changed on Monday when Tucson Electric Power (TEP), an Arizona utility company, announced that it had reached an agreement to buy solar power at the same game-changing price.

TEP says that this is a "historically low price" for a 100-megawatt system capable of powering 21,000 homes — and that the sub-3-cents price is "less than half as much as it agreed to pay under similar contracts in recent years."

For context, the average U.S. residential price for electricity is nearly 13 cents per kwh, and the average commercial price is 10.5 cents.


NextEra Energy Resources will build and operate the system, which also includes "a long duration battery storage system" (whose price is not included in the 3 cents/kwh). Also worth noting: The sub-3-cents contracts that have been signed in other countries such as Chile, Dubai, and Mexico are unsubsidized, whereas U.S. prices include the 30 percent Investment Tax Credit.

PV Magazine reports "this is the lowest price" they've seen for solar yet in this country. And Bloomberg New Energy Finance chair Michael Liebreich explained last month that thanks to recent price drops, "unsubsidized wind and solar can provide the lowest cost new electrical power in an increasing number of countries, even in the developing world — sometimes by a factor of two."

The TEP contract is one more sign that the renewable revolution is unstoppable.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

CountDeMoney

QuoteTucson Electric Power

QuoteApplication submitted: 5/8/17 12:39 PM
Last updated: 5/9/17 10:29 AM

Zeroed out in less than 12 hours, without so much as a rejection email.  Fuck their solar panels.


Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Valmy

Really? Berkut always spoke glowingly of it.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 31, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
You don't want to live in Tucson.

No I don't, but I do want to resume my career before dersfetus has a chance to watch me die.

Besides, it's a dry heat.

HVC

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 31, 2017, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 31, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
You don't want to live in Tucson.

No I don't, but I do want to resume my career before dersfetus has a chance to watch me die.

Besides, it's a dry heat.

So is an oven.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

CountDeMoney


garbon

Doesn't Tucson get that monsoon weather?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

jimmy olsen

Such great news! :punk:

https://qz.com/992611/from-coal-to-solar-indias-energy-landscape-is-almost-too-hard-to-keep-up-with/
QuoteFrom coal to solar, India's energy landscape is almost too hard to keep up with

By

Krutika Pathi  May 28, 2017 Quartz india

In 2010, India was experiencing a massive boost in coal power—but not everyone was benefitting.

Those in the Siddhi community, spread across the foothills of the Western Ghats, were almost entirely left in the literal dark. Francis Wilson relied entirely on kerosene lamps since the power grid didn't cover his area. Mohan Appu had no direct connection to electricity because he had no documents to prove ownership of the house he had lived in for years. Residents of this rural community would have to travel almost 13 miles to charge a mobile phone.

This scenario, which plays out often across pockets of rural areas in the country, reflects the curious situation of India's energy landscape. For the past two years, there's been an overabundance of coal power, even though 240 million people in India still have little to no access to electricity. Meanwhile, over the last five months, the price of renewable energy has plummeted so low that analysts have hailed it as both "record-breaking" and "unsustainable" in the same breath. In fact, the pace of change in the country's energy infrastructure has been so swift that even researchers are scrambling to keep a steady pulse on a constantly developing beat.


As China slowly cut down on its own coal infrastructure, the International Energy Agency in 2015 projected India to be the next coal center in the near future. It stated that "half of the net increase in coal-fired generation capacity worldwide [through 2040] occurs in India." Nearly a year later, in July 2016, the non-profit CoalSwarm put out a report that found 370 proposals for coal plants in the works across the country.

The findings revealed a pretty explosive conclusion: that India's outsized plans for coal energy would wipe out climate goals set out in the Paris Agreement. Merely a few months after the report, the researchers at CoalSwarm were surprised by a new twist. In December 2016, the Central Electricity Authority (CEA) laid out an electricity plan that said no new coal plants, beyond those already under construction, are needed for at least the next decade. The CEA also put forth new renewable energy goals—a production of 275 gigawatts (GW) generated from solar, wind, and hydro by 2027.

This means that the majority of the plants that CoalSwarm tracked are now going to be shelved. It's also a show of India's push towards reforming its energy infrastructure: the country added more renewable power than thermal in the 2016 fiscal year. "It was hard to keep up," says Christine Shearer, a senior researcher at CoalSwarm and lead author of the report. "The country is supposed to be at the heart of coal plant growth, but it's interesting to see the tide go against what we often hear about China and India—that they're going to keep building coal plants—when actually, they're both stalling production."

The glut of power doesn't mean that every corner of the country is electrified—rather, it gestures strongly towards inertia, uneven distribution, and redundancy. "There are many coal plants which aren't functioning at full capacity," says Ashish Fernandes, a senior campaigner at Greenpeace. This under-utilisation, he points out, has led to an abundance of stale power contained inside state-owned distribution companies.

Another reason for the overabundance: rural areas that lack electricity can't seem to afford the price of it. The cost can range from around Rs120 ($1.86) to Rs500 ($7.75) per month for domestic utilities, depending on the state. "If [residents] can't afford the power, it doesn't matter what fuel they use," says Tim Buckley, a director at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA). "You've got to solve energy poverty, education, and employment to address that problem," he adds. "You can't keep building expensive coal-fired power plants that pollute the country and think there's going to be demand—[some residents] just can't afford it." Even when data shows an area as having electricity, it may not mean much, Fernandes says. "We need to look at individual households that have power. According to the government data, if you have one building or streetlight in a rural area that has power, the entire town is considered to be connected," he adds.

A report by Greenpeace published in October 2016 identified 65GW of coal power stations under construction in India and an additional 176GW of projects at various stages of obtaining permissions. The report forecast that 94% of the capacity being built would not be needed by 2022, representing a waste of $49 billion in investments. This could partly explain why a $150 million coal plant in the state of Maharashtra is currently sitting idle, with a lack of demand from power generators. And it could also explain why another state in India, Gujarat, has walked away from a $4 billion coal plant of 4000 megawatts this month. "There is no financial investment to fund coal in the Indian market because they're simply not competitive against solar energy prices right now," says Buckley.

As prospects for India's coal sector are falling, so is the price of renewable energy. In turn, the country's future outlook, if all goes accordingly, is pretty good news for the planet. India first set a record-low price in February this year when a kilowatt-hour of solar energy was selling at Rs2.97 ($0.046). This month, the country hit another record low—the price of solar dropped 12% further, currently selling at Rs2.62 ($0.041) per kilowatt-hour. "To spell it out, new solar is 15% cheaper than existing domestic coal.[/b] No one, anywhere in the world, was expecting solar to get that cheap for at least a decade," Buckley says, "and India just got there this year." It's a marked shift for India—which, in a matter of months, went from potentially thwarting global climate goals to possibly saving them.

The news of falling solar prices in India, and the country's recent (but significant) efforts to divest from coal as the fundamental energy source, stands in contrast to the current scenario in the US. Analysts fear that president Trump's "America First Energy Plan" will put the country behind China and India in the push to reinvigorate renewable solutions. "What gives me hope is that at a time when Trump is busy trying to destroy the Paris Agreement, the two most important countries in the world for the agreement are China and India," says Buckley.

According to a study released last week by the Climate Action Tracker, India and China are on pace to "overachieve" their climate goals by 2030. While Trump has taken recent action to revitalise the coal industry, the report finds that China and India's recent aggressive stances on carbon emissions "significantly outweigh" America's lack of clean energy initiatives.
Ultimately, Buckley points out that it might come down to those two countries taking the lead. "If Trump backs out of the Paris Agreement, which [is] a very likely scenario, he would be ceding America's leadership in energy markets to China and India," Buckley says.

Out of the world's top three carbon transmitters, the US is the only one at risk of missing its target goal, the Climate Action Tracker report concludes. An energy blueprint released this week by the Indian government predicts that 57% of total electricity capacity will come from non-fossil fuel sources by 2027—exceeding the Paris Agreement's target of 40% by 2030. Currently, almost 33% of the country's total energy comes from non-fossil fuel, which makes the Paris target relatively unambitious—it looks like India is almost three-and-a-half years ahead of schedule.

The research is undoubtedly positive and the numbers trumpet a new standard being set by two unlikely countries. But in terms of large-scale implementation, neither solar nor coal are easy options in India. For solar energy to be reliable and widespread, the country would need to build grid infrastructure on an unprecedented scale. The dwindling prices of non-fossil fuel energy is encouraging, and the slow-but-steady withdrawal from coal is optimistic, but is it enough to plug the gaps? Fernandes doesn't think so. "The biggest threats to renewable expansion are the distribution companies," he says, adding that this is the root of the problem. "Unless the distribution model is overhauled, the same issues will be transferred."

Solutions like off-grid solar panels are one kind of sustainable technology that could address the distribution problem, says Harish Hande, co-founder of SELCO, an enterprise that introduced off-grid solar energy in the Siddhi community in 2010. Within a year, 100 homes in the area were connected to power in the Western Ghats region. SELCO has been nationally awarded for its energy work in under-served households and areas—but, as Hande points out, a long-standing solution has to go beyond the mere mechanics of the supply chain. "It's much larger than providing electricity," he says, "and there have to be enough public-private partnerships that cross over education, health, and the bigger ecosystem for sustainable energy services to become more accessible."
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Zanza

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 26, 2017, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 27, 2017, 11:27:11 AM
I guess you would get less range b/c of running the heater etc. and just generally lower battery performance.  But it still functions.

I bought my electric car earlier in the year and now that it is warming up I have noticed an increase in max range from 120 Km to more like 150.  Under ideal conditions the max is supposed to be 170 ish  Quebec has colder winters so the difference will be greater.
What model did you get?

Maladict


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"If Trump backs out of the Paris Agreement, which [is] a very likely scenario, he would be ceding America's leadership in energy markets to China and India,"

How about booting the US out of the G7 along with Russia and replacing them with China and India. Developed nations and all that.  :P